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I didn't found it but it has spread to commong knowledge of almost all pilots in this game. Atleast every oman know about it now. Couple of TTW pilots have used it against us by attacking and jumping during the same turn and so now everyone knows about it. And there really is no point on cencoring this thread, since each and every oman player already know about this and thus it's only fair to make sure that the rest of players know about it too.
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Now that we know how they had exploit it. Please all Oman pilots DO NOT use it. We will win this game fairly so when the game is over no one can accuse us of cheating.
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{Sorry, no exploits are to be posted under any condition, if you want wingee to know, then email him - SS}
my result:
GeneSimmons 434 -22 5669
GeneSimmons 434 -108 5691
GeneSimmons 434 -62 5799
GeneSimmons 434 -46 5811
GeneSimmons 434 -53 5857
GeneSimmons 434 -44 5910
TimeBridge
10-03-2002, 20:44
i don't get it!!!
couldn't this happen due to server-lag???
it's the same thing like a ships get's destroyed by four or five pilots...
Dunno how it works in the end, but I know that 2 TTW pilots attacked our pilot and jumped out during the same turn. So one of our pilots tested like mentioned before and it works. So basically you open 6 windows, click in 5 of them attack button many times and in one you press jump button and hope everything goes as planned, that might be the way they did it, not sure though and they should tell it themselves if this isn't the way they did it.
Hey Jagge, you don't need to censor my post ;)
Mirage18
10-03-2002, 22:57
Sneaky TimeBridge, you were one of them :grngrin:
Turn: 432
To: All Friendlies
Subject: Re: How is this possible?
===== Mordecai =====
Moves on me this turn:
Pilot Turn Variance Resultant HP
Matador 432 -274 9425
Matador 432 -91 9699
Matador 432 -354 9790
TimeBridge 432 -160 10144
TimeBridge 432 -194 10304
TimeBridge 432 -190 10498
TimeBridge 432 -283 10688
TimeBridge 432 -29 10971
And both are jumping out!
Mirage18
10-03-2002, 23:00
Something new to add! :D
From: Kushrenada
Turn: 435
To: All Friendlies
Subject: [BUG EXPLOITING] fu**ing bloody *******s! all except one hypering TTW`s are cheaters!
Serenity 435 -516 4234
Serenity 435 -255 4750
Serenity 435 -232 5005
Serenity 435 -226 5237
Serenity 435 -110 5463
Zyklop 435 -453 5573
Zyklop 435 -251 6026
Matador 435 -132 6277
Matador 435 -238 6409
Matador 435 -349 6647
Matador 435 -164 6996
Matador 435 -95 7160
Zyklop 435 -188 7255
Zyklop 435 -503 7443
Zyklop 435 -125 7946
TimeBridge 435 -120 8071
TimeBridge 435 -399 8191
TimeBridge 435 -279 8590
that are the moves on me this turn! and all of them are hypering out of Dagon in this moment!!!!!!!
@ all ships that used this bug more than 1 time:
I want your accounts deleted by admin!
They may rejoin the game after that, but if they use it again, they will be deleted again.
@ remaining TTW pilots:
TTW was a very honorable faction until I left them, but this is now worse than I can think! I cannot beleve it: Those pilots I trusted now turn out to be stupid CHEATERS ...
COMPLAIN YOURSELF if you do not know what is going on, I want the screenshots of your log !!!
I still hope this is a misunderstanding ....
wendyfoo
11-03-2002, 06:45
Haven't herd anything about this on our side up until just now... Its a good thing we found out about it though. (to fix the problem befor game 4) If someone could contact wingee and let him know.. We need to fix this problem befor the game restarts...
As far as "honor" in these games... I would like to think that if players and factiions are not cheating than thati is "honorable", as for attacking an allie. That should not be called dishonorable. It is expected, the only question is when will it happen. Good luck to all pilots and lets try to remeber its only a game, and a fun one.
Please do not exploit this.
Thankyou
Wendyfoo
Originally posted by wendyfoo
As far as "honor" in these games... I would like to think that if players and factiions are not cheating than thati is "honorable", as for attacking an allie. That should not be called dishonorable. It is expected, the only question is when will it happen. Good luck to all pilots and lets try to remeber its only a game, and a fun one.
Sometimes how you attack your allie counts too, even in a game. If you promise to end a battle against an enemy before attacking the allie and then you never begin the battle with the enemy but directly attack the HQ of your allie it is for sure expected but not as "honorable" as it could be.
Now we know this exploit, there is a counter tactic to weaken the effectiveness of it, it's difficult to manage but since this exploit has an enormous impact on game tactics I think now we have three coices:
1) nobody uses the exploit anymore
2) everybody uses the exploit
3) we stop the game now
1) difficult to implement there always be someone that will not follow the rule.
2) if everybody uses this, the "advantage" gained only by someone is lost and this can be counted as a "new feature". Don't misunderstand me, I prefer solution 1) but this way allows us to continue the game until the end with the same chances to win for every faction. It's only a practical compromise.
3) since this is obviously an implementation issue (something related to the check of availability of moves to carry o commands) It is probable that a solution to this will require an application restart. If only some players take advantage of this the whole game will suffer lost of good players, and definitively lost of fun.
I think I know what the problem is:
When you klick the jump-button the script does not check if there are still all 5 moves left (this is only done when loading capsulejump.php). --> It's a simple bug and should be easy to fix...
Whitewolf
11-03-2002, 13:58
Wingee had better do it fast!Them bugs are getting annoying.
Somehow,this looks really familiar.I think someone used it back in game 1 to squeeze in 5 shots in seconds.He never did use this bug though.
Well, it looks like it's no longer only TTW ships abusing this exploit, we've just had our first reported incident of an MCA pilot doing the same thing.
Here are the logs of his the moves on POWER, turn 443, in which Meteor is very clearly still in the "jumping out" pane.
Meteor 443 -109 10429
Meteor 443 -191 10538
Meteor 443 -89 10729
Meteor 443 -147 10818
Meteor 443 -35 10965
How long do we have before everybody starts using it, because they feel that everyone else is using it against them? :cry:
-- inVurt
Whitewolf
12-03-2002, 03:07
I was thinking that it could be that these pilots found a gattling cannon through piracy after having fired 4 shots,then used the gattling cannon and found(through piracy) a random jump.However,the damage values don't seem to reflect this.......
Well, that and a megafreighter jump is instantaneous, it doesn't put you in the jumping out queue.
-- inVurt
Whitewolf
12-03-2002, 04:28
Hmm......
Has Wingee been informed about this?
Also,there was a hacker at work again.Our FC approval ratings took a nosedive to 19% twice yesterday,although no vote was triggered.
Originally posted by Mirage18
Sneaky TimeBridge, you were one of them
excuuuuuuuusssse me.....
but didn't you have 5o,ooo shields as an Oman (still an Oman I see) in game 2??
i've often meant to hassle the admins about your account..
but whatever anyone else has done, your glasshouse is definately drafty.....
Originally posted by kudos
but didn't you have 5o,ooo shields as an Oman (still an Oman I see) in game 2??
That and a lot of 'lucky' ERD.
Originally posted by Whitewolf
Hmm......
Has Wingee been informed about this?
Also,there was a hacker at work again.Our FC approval ratings took a nosedive to 19% twice yesterday,although no vote was triggered.
We had the same thing here recently... it may just be a glitch, but I don't think so... :(
Whitewolf
12-03-2002, 18:03
Really?
Then maybe the other factions could have had the same problem too?
p.s. BFalcon,you still interested in a wolfskin rug(eek!)?Go to the off topic forums ;)
Mirage18
12-03-2002, 18:40
Yesss!!! But it will take a minute to make a new account. Why do I still use this one? :devil:
Originally posted by Mirage18
Something new to add! :D
Hey! 18! Didn't think you did the BB. Sorry this is extra-thread, but wanted to make sure you got the "I (& selected comrades) am going to kill you" message.
Please note that I am still only a 4. Please position your ship in my sector while I level-up off your hull. Kristof was most inconsiderate earlier & ran away before I was finished...
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