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HardEyes
18-03-2002, 16:35
Bodmin, Escort Alpha, Darkening
*edited* Darkening wrong named here, sorry*/edited*
seem to be cheating..
the cheat they used is well know.. i will send message to wingee
see my logs:
Pilot Turn Variance Resultant HP
bodmin 497 -5133 Ship destroyed!
Escort Alpha 497 -335 3826
Benchen 494 +189 4013
Benchen 494 +211 3824
Darkening 490 -637 2613
{ok, full jumping in list was not necessary for your complaint, so i've removed it. - ku}
Darkening
18-03-2002, 18:25
Sorry mate not using any cheat.
HardEyes
18-03-2002, 19:44
Originally posted by Darkening
Sorry mate not using any cheat.
that's why i have edited my post, but still the other twos seem to cheat, and there are some more omans, getting maxrepairs or LDAs and jump out and so on..
to make this situation even more dangerous, the cheat was posted internal in MCA comms.. pilots may decide to use the cheat too, in rage about the omans using the cheat in rage about the TTWs which have used the cheat and so on..
this game seems to collaps like g1, but to make it worse even pilots i would count as "honorable" may try to use this cheat.(reading some former threads there may some even already done so..)
so please, pilots in any faction don't use the cheat, even when the other use them.. this is no way to play, cheating spoils the fun for everybody playing fair, i rather loose this game then playing unfair..
HardEyes
P.S. no reply from wingee till now, i really hope he has a chance to find such cheaters and delete them, on both factions!
Originally posted by HardEyes
Idiocy always finds fertile minds....
Actually, from what bodmin sent over the comms he got a pack of seeker missiles, and then jumped out. He was estatic :D
i really don't have a clue what cheat your talkin about.It hasn't been talked about through the oman comms like your MCA at least and i don't understand how they did it.i know there is a glitch where you can be shot at in the last minute of hypering, but other than that i aint got a clue.How are they cheating?Are they multies or what?I agree that if they are cheating, they should be removed from the game, but if they are takin advantage of a loophole in the game, i can't say i blame them, as this all adds to the strategy, coz the MCA could use it just as much.I'm interested in this though, and i'll report their names to the FC and see what he has to say.Thanks.
Marodeur
18-03-2002, 23:05
erm, they hypered in and shot you? not possible with the cheat that was posted here in the BB!
you must already have your enemy on your scanners to use that cheat, but they surely can`t have you on scanners while hypering in....
the cheat only works whit hypering out! :wierdblu:
I think he's talking about being destroyed in Garden, just before the assault :D
He likened it to a freak accident! He actually got a Gattling Gun. Wiped your blood across the floor with a hefty shot (he said above 5000HP cannot remember exactly and then found that it didn't even reduce his move count and so he jumped.
I cannot say about ALPHA but I believe Bodmin he is a true fighter.
Sorry that your ship couldn't prevent him moving to your HQ and that your loss was not even for a reason but hey that's life :lolblue:
Shed
Your whinging is actually violating EOC rules. You should not discuss EOC positions externally to the game at any point. Printing a jumping in list (when you are losing long range comms ...) is a flagrant break of the rules.
I say now to all you villains... KNOCK off all that evil - probably misquoted.
Hardeyes you whinged throughout the game :cry: and that I am afraid is your major downfall in life. HIT THINGS HEAD ON MATE and life always becomes 10 times easier.
Shed :grntngue:
Actually, (and I REALLY hate to say this) I agree with Shed
Please edit that jumping in list immediately - long range comms are down for you, so we don't need our ship positions broadcast, thank you very much.
I don't think the Forum is the place for this sort of thing at all...
but, I also realise that Wingee, or any other admin@EoCo -whatever, doesn't appear to be responding to either emails, or requests on the Forum to do something about alledged exploits/bugs/cheats etc, or at least we aren't being informed of any positive action, or even an acknowledgement of their awareness of the problems....
basically, I don't know quite what to do about this subject of posting exploit/cheats etc on the Forum.. :/
but current ship locations are definately not allowed!!
btw shed: is that a space hamster in your pocket? :p
Shoot the messenger, why doncha? HardEyes is as honest & sensible a player as I know (a good combination) - he's only repeating info freely availble through comms in your only enemy faction.
This feature has certainly benefited the attacker much more than the defender, especially against a base. Using it, one could take 5 shots, not care about the damage taken & jump straight back out. Or shoot to kill a delaying force, but still move on. The Oman has amply demonstrated these tactics today
A far cry from the game as we thought it was, where one had a stark choice between flight or fight. But since the defender does not wish to move, the exploit is of little use.
Most of the pilots shown below fired the same turn (500), as shown by their low shields. Thus they avoid the chance of death and gain the great benefit of retaining their place in the Rankings unsullied... I can only imagine the saddest of motives.
Apologies to any unjustly included - I can't see your logs to check. Fn'rr to the rest.
BTW, I used it myself a few times - partly to check how it worked, mostly to annoy Serial who first did it to me.
Jumping Out >>
kenny101(10)
45% shields
Blade*(10)
52% shields
Escort Alpha(10)
20% shields
Assasin(10)
48% shields
bodmin(10)
37% shields
Scalpel(10)
58% shields
B.
Boris, didn't we just go over this with Hard Eyes?
It's funny, no, that while Oman forces that may have used this bug get a mention, none what so ever of M.C.A. forces...strange.
Oh and, ships that stay in a HQ do take damage without even firing. You of all people should know that Boris.
tekno monik
19-03-2002, 02:04
Maybe because the number of MCA that use the exploit are nearly non-existant.
If you could've but read our comms before they went down, I was all for using the exploit just to annoy the hell out of you all. I considered this game over after the suicide attack, and would've taken great pleasure in frustrating the crud out of you all.
unfortunately no one was in like mind with me.. oh well.
and at the time of this post, we still had all comms, so posting a full jumping in list didn't compromise jack, so take your whining and shove it.
Now that's not very nice monik
All in game communication must be done through the game system
Now, since that is in game information, and it wasn't necassary, it has been removed. (Thanks kudos)
And as for Boris's post: No, you didn't have comms at the time of that message.
Originally posted by tekno monik
and at the time of this post, we still had all comms, so posting a full jumping in list didn't compromise jack
I asked ppl not to post jumping-in lists/enemy lists/jumping-out lists way back at the start of the round - when everyone still had scans - because it is against the rule of discussing vital current game information outside of game comms...
fair enough, i'm sure a lot of current posters didn't read that - but still it's against the rules, so plz don't ever do it...
*goes to draw up a EoCo forum rules sticky for G4*
HardEyes
19-03-2002, 02:20
yes, full jump list wasn't required, sometimes rage isn't a good thing. There were other omans too, using this exploit, but i fear also some TTW or even now MCA. And i don't think that the omans have won by cheating. So let's see for next game.
HardEyes
Tabloid Headlines tomorrow :
"EoCo Rage deletes 4, slanders 200, server seeks counselling from a toaster"
etc =)
The_Hawk
19-03-2002, 04:56
Does anyone know why we are being left alone ?
Why there are no moderators admins or even a Wingee around?
could this be the begining of the end
is the promotion over?
WILL THERE BE A RESET AT ALL ??
Do they offer counsiling for EOCo addicts anywhere?
tekno monik
19-03-2002, 07:45
:rollani: are you a Multi? Do you have a smurf fetish, where you deck yourself out in blue and fly in our sectors? Yes we did have comms at the time of that post. :rolleyes:
Marodeur
19-03-2002, 09:29
well, my opinion and sorry if i upset anyone here:
if you have exploited this bug EVEN ONCE for what reason ever, you have absolutely no right to complain about others using it!!!!
besides this game is over, so get a grip and get over it, also the bug is fixed (as of my knowledge right now), so just forget about it. i am pretty sure that there were pilots in every faction (that was left of course), who abused this bug, so it is pointless to blame a particular faction!
complain about PILOTS, not FACTIONS, but don`t dare to blame anyone, if you cheated yourself! :madred:
No HARD feelings matey. I do have a space-hamster in my pocket and it is in fact of the whanchoo variety :wierdblu:
So long as we all live together in perfect harmony.
[grows long hair, starts to smoke dope and wears flowers in his hair]
YES IT'S TRUE.
BORIS - well done mate. That is a true accolade.
You have reached the upper reaches of unpopularity mountain. You are at the summit of Mnt. Doh! COULD IT BE THAT THEY JUMPED OUT BECAUSE THEY WERE SHOT AT !! Is that so inconceivable you twit.
Get a clue, stop being so blo%dy obnoxious and get on with G4 and BTW change your name cos I am gonna fry your little small freaky ***.
(Can you tell I want to wage war on him yet.)
Anyway. BFalcon why do you post such things. You agree to everything I SAY. I AM THE BOSS. Well errr.... not THE boss ;o)
Shed7
Darkening
19-03-2002, 14:14
Oh and btw i have to kill boris first he waited til i was at 7-8% and then attacked (i went to bed a few mins before)
The Boss
19-03-2002, 15:32
Origionally posted by shed7
Anyway. BFalcon why do you post such things. You agree to everything I SAY. I AM THE BOSS. Well errr.... not THE boss ;o)
Did some one call me :rollani:
Lord_Bane
19-03-2002, 16:08
well well well.. it seems that there is bad karma around people.
I'd say that it's very frustrating when you know that certain enemy has used his moves for firing you or allied player.. then you consentrate your fire to eliniminate that enemy and suddenly you noticed that enemy has jumped away.
Or when you read logs and noticed that against you have been fired and then next thing is to find that someone is jumping away.. and you know that it should be impossible.
And conserning those log files.. those for posted 3 hours later when every MCA player did know allready where curret oman players where and our HQ was in 50% that time so we did anyway have scans and communication, so no harm made...
well it's against the rules but allways should be think that does it make more good than bad when publish that kind of information.
1. MCA was allready loosing this war.. no not loose but second place was only what we could gain in long run.
2. If that firing&jumping bug is now certainly corrected????, then publishing those logs and the pug.. id say that it was in generaly good think for all of us.
So let's calm down and start waiting next game. :devil:
Arlikiel
19-03-2002, 16:50
Originally posted by Darkening
Oh and btw i have to kill boris first he waited til i was at 7-8% and then attacked (i went to bed a few mins before)
Hehe, come on, love! I hate Boris as much as the next person (Well "hate" is a very strong word. I love hating him in a game setting. I have nothing against the guy otherwise), but who doesn't do that?
Getting a kill is always fun. We knew you were taking a risk by firing so much on the HQ that turn, and people concentrated their fire on you and killed you that turn.
Anyway, who cares? Who won the game? WHo? who? :D :bounce:
WOOOOHOOO!!!!!! :grngrin:
Originally posted by Lord_Bane
And conserning those log files.. those for posted 3 hours later when every MCA player did know allready where curret oman players where and our HQ was in 50% that time so we did anyway have scans and communication, so no harm made...
well it's against the rules but allways should be think that does it make more good than bad when publish that kind of information.
this is the problem. You see there can't always be a mod around to check that "it's the ok time to post logs", the only way to deal with it, and try and make sure it never happens, is to have a blanket ban on logs on the forum.
as I said, I asked for none to be posted way back when all Factions still had scans..
but for example, at the start of the round, assuming no multispies, a Factions FC *could* be destroyed without the other Factions realising, and then any logs - even old ones - would be of much use to the scanless Faction...
Lord_Bane
19-03-2002, 19:55
Originally posted by kudos
but for example, at the start of the round, assuming no multispies, a Factions FC *could* be destroyed without the other Factions realising, and then any logs - even old ones - would be of much use to the scanless Faction...
Yes, you are right.
Fortunetly in this case scanless factions did not have anymore significantly forces.
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