Zombies or Aliens?

[Warspite]

Here it is - the poll you've all been waiting for :D


Zombie films are , of course, the finest examples of cinematic skill imaginable - I'm thinking Zombie Holocaust , Night of the Living Dead here - but there are a few lost and deluded souls who prefer sci-fi films, and are entirely responsible for Star Wars and Star Trek movies being churned out in vast quantities. I don't mind Aliens or Predator, but was Star Wars 4 anywhere as good as Evil Dead 1,2 or 3?
No.
It was pants.

So vote... and DONT TURN THIS INTO A STAR WARS THREAD PLEEEEEEZZZZZZ
:eek:

[Whitewolf]

I would vote "I'm fine either way",but since there isn't one,I voted the alien one.

[Diablo]

I love zombies

[Whitewolf]

There's nothing like it,eh? :)

[Warspite]

"I love Zombies" -Diablo

I bet you do you big pervert!!! :bigeye:

[Whitewolf]

lol.
What do you mean,Warspite?

[Warspite]

I have a sneaky suspicion that Diablo would "love "anything that could move..... :angel:

[Whitewolf]

Scary!
Erm....
You're moving,I'm moving,does that mean.....
NO!!!!!!!

[Zrbyte]

I feel violated :bigeye: :cry: :eekblue: :cry: :bigeye:

[Whitewolf]

My thoughts exactly.......

[tenebra_uk]

Just stand still...he won't even notice you :grngrin: He would go after anything in motion :wierdblu:

Zombies for me, please :grntngue:

[Whitewolf]

Ooh,didn't notice the zombie alien one earlier :)
Zombies are original and make good horror movies.I do like them too,but I feel the same way about aliens.
Ever wondered what if they combined the two(i.e Night of the Living Dead meets Aliens)?

Stay still?
*creeps over th the fireplace and falls asleep*

[Warspite]

Yeessss!!!! :bounce:

Zombies and battleships are knocking the pants off Aliens!!!
Any Hollywood moguls please take note - battleships and Zombies are the cinematic way ahead :bounce:

[Whitewolf]

Hmm......
Warspite Vs The Living Dead!
Errr.....

[Minos]

I think you should make it clear whether mummies are included under the heading 'zombies', Warspite.

My two nieces (the youngest is not yet five) have both mastered the art of lurching along, arms outstetched, eyes glassy, and as far as they are concerned there is no difference between the two.

As for good zombie films, some of the best are the B movie ones – it's part of the charm. There was one (can't remember the name unforunately) British one about a Cornish squire who solved the labour problem in his tin mine by reanimating the corpses of villagers – no wages, work 24 hours a day... real Thatcherite principles. Needless to say it all ended badly for him. Lots of lurching though.

[Warspite]

Well , I've always had a flare for the theatrical - I've just never found a stage with a reinforced dry-dock. But a zombie movie..hmm :yum:

[Whitewolf]

With computers,you don't even need a dry dock,Warspite :)
Much less a stage.
I don't understand what the B in B-movie means.

[Warspite]

B movie - as opposed to the A ranked feature ; the B movie, in my day, was like a warm up, with rotten production values and worse plot, shown before the big feature film. "B movie " eventually came to be used to label all rubbish movies - and I think they're brilliant. :D

[Whitewolf]

Bah.Rubbish movies?
Alright,maybe the effects and all that aren't that good,but you have to admit that some plots and storylines can be really good!

[Minos]

Well, there are B movies and there are B movies!

Some (which generally sink without a trace) are just not entertaining. Some are entertaining because they've got such laughable plots and sets/special effects. This is what most people mean when they talk about B movies nowadays.

Then again, once in a while, you'll get a low budget film which has a good plot and – given the limited budget – good filming. There aren't many of course, and opinions will differ about which ones fall into this category, but an example might be the Quatermass series. The last, Quatermass and the Pit, was pretty intellectual by the standards of most sci-fi films, indeed too much so for its own good, as many people found it hard to follow.

Another extremely good B movie – in the sense that it was a supporting film, rather than because it was low-budget – was The Bloody Chamber, based on the Angela Carter short story of the same name. Did anyone else see it? I can't remember what film it was supporting now, but I can remember it was better!

[tenebra_uk]

There was one (can't remember the name unforunately) British one about a Cornish squire who solved the labour problem in his tin mine by reanimating the corpses of villagers – no wages, work 24 hours a day... real Thatcherite principles. Needless to say it all ended badly for him. Lots of lurching though.

Yees, I've seen it only a few months ago! :bounce: Ahah, the zombie eyes were just brilliant - golf balls! :lolblue:

I used to be into B movies big times :grngrin:

[Diablo]

Originally posted by tenebra
Just stand still...he won't even notice you :grngrin: He would go after anything in motion :wierdblu:

Zombies for me, please :grntngue:

Hey Tenny ! I am no T-REX - they only notice things that move...never seen Jurassic Park ?

My eyes are quite good...I see everything...even things which don´t move...BETTER RUN THEN ! :yum:



DOES SOMEONE KNOW "BRAINDEAD"! ? THAT´S THE BEST B - MOVIE EVER ! :tup:

[Whitewolf]

So what was the best zombie movie ever?

[Diablo]

BRAINDEAD ! THE MOTHER OF ALL ZOMBIE MOVIES ! :dark: :tup:

http://www.horrordvds.com/news/images/braindead.jpg

[Whitewolf]

I watched a zombie movie on TV once.It was quite good,but I can't remember the title.....

[Warspite]

..and you know Braindead was made by Peter jackson(LOTR) - who also happened to make the best Alien invasion film too (Bad Taste!). :bounce:

Gee What-a -guy....

[Whitewolf]

Wow!
No wonder that show was so good!
But it was a B Movie?

[Diablo]

Zombie films on TV are always bad...cause they are totally cut...

Remember ?----> RESIDENT EVIL MOVIE ! BEST GAME ON EARTH !

[DaisyDuke]

no zombies or aliens here

to be honest Warspite, I don't much like either. :(

To me a good Sci-Fi movie, is, The matrix, or The twelve monkey's.

oh and Minos, Quatermass, excellent.

Huffty, puffty ring stone round, and all that :D

[Whitewolf]

Resident Evil!
Now with Heckler and Koch automatic rifle with attached grenade launcher.
Hehe.

So long as a movie is good,I'll like it.
I wonder if that's a good thing?

[Diablo]

Twelve Monkeys is great as well....and SEVEN of course and the best ever is MATRIX OF COURSE !

http://www.sfworld.onlinehome.de/matrix.jpg

[Whitewolf]

Matrix :)
Matrix 2 is in fliming,I hear?

[Understudy]

Follow the White rabbit/wolf

[Whitewolf]

Originally posted by Understudy
Follow the White rabbit/wolf

Eh???
:confused:

[Understudy]

I'm assuming that you've seen the Matrix.... :grntngue:

Surely you realise that the transition of a good movie into a 'cult' movie occurs when over a certain percentage of the population can recite the dialog at will? :grngrin:

[Whitewolf]

Oh...lol.
I didn't watch the Matrix(which is why I'm getting my VCR ready for the TV screening soon!).
All I know is that it's a very good show :)

[Warspite]

errmmm..don't like fire both barrels at me straight away everyone but...didn't you find the Matrix a bit.....vapid? :blush:

*battens down hatches*

[Understudy]

*BOOM*-*BOOM*

:grngrin:

[Warspite]

aww come on!! :confused:
Wearing black and saying "He is The One" is not exactly ground-breaking stuff is it....... :rollani:

*heads for the remotest expanses of the Southern Seas"

[Understudy]

I'll bet you'll think Blade 2 is a shallow, storyless waste of celluloid as well.... :grngrin:


So it is, but it doesn't mean I didn't sit there for 2 hours with an idiot grin on my face.

[Warspite]

Hey, I do that all the time, but it just winds me up that The Matrix was so over-sold, when the only stand out element of the entire film was the graphics!!! :mad:
The plot, acting and evrything else were TOSH....

PS the best experience I have had in a long time at the cinema was watching Independence Day - I laughed all the way through, and was getting dangerously hysterical by the end :bigeye:

[Diablo]

Originally posted by Warspite
aww come on!! :confused:
Wearing black and saying "He is The One" is not exactly ground-breaking stuff is it....... :rollani:

*heads for the remotest expanses of the Southern Seas"

HE SAID JEHOVA ! STONE HIM !

[Understudy]

There are certain songs that will cheer me up no matter what mood I'm in. (Blister in the Sun - Violent Femmes)

There are a few film scenes that will do the same...

The Matrix scene where they storm the building to rescue Morpheus is one... If I hear the music that accompanies that scene, I start smiling.....

Just easily amused I guess. :grngrin:

[Diablo]

Well..something in common...I always start to smile too... :D :grngrin: :D :grngrin: :D

[Understudy]

Well..something in common...
I think I go and have a bath now... I suddenly feel unclean :grngrin:

[Diablo]

What ? You little ******* ! :grngrin:

[Understudy]

Originally posted by Diablo
What ? You little ******* ! :grngrin:
Opps, sorry to upset you Di... I won't talk about baths in your presence again! :grntngue:

[Minos]

Originally posted by Warspite
errmmm..don't like fire both barrels at me straight away everyone but...didn't you find the Matrix a bit.....vapid? :blush:

*battens down hatches* Well, thank God for that! I'm not the only one who thought so!

The special effects were great, but the plot was a great disappointment – very weak.

For a start a lot of it didn't make sense, simply being plot-devices to provide the action scenes. You can excuse this up to a point, as it was after all basically an action film.

But most disappointing of all was the basic premise. It started well – the good old "What is real?" idea. But when it came to the crunch it retreated into simplistic Hollywood truisms "We are freeing all these people!".
Freeing them from what? The WHOLE POINT is that in such a situation the characters couldn't tell what was real and what wasn't. What they were saying was that they would take all these people from a life of relative comfort and security and offer them a life of insecurity, hunger and deprivation... yet which would seem no more real than before. Wow, thanks!

When Morpheus launched into his diatribe about "What is real, Neo?" I thought we actually were going to get something challenging about the impossibility of making that judgement. But then it all fell flat when the apparently sceptical Morpheus never asked himself how he could tell whether 'his' world was real or not.

What I'd have liked to have seen – and this would have been daring – is for them to liberate all the people to the desolate wastelands of the 'real' world... then find THAT was a computer simulation as well, and they'd all been deluding themselves...

In the Arthur Clarke short story The Lion of Comarre, a yound man searches for, and finds, a place somewhat like the Matrix – where people seeking escape from the real world could 'plug in' and withdraw into a cyberworld in which they were happy. The hero starts heroically liberating them by pulling the plugs, but eventually learns that perhaps – for some people at least – there's nothing inherently wonderful about reality.
That story was written about fifty years ago...

[Whitewolf]

What would be a good book/game/tv series to movie conversion?

[Diablo]

Hey Minos ...I really don´t think that the plot of MATRIX is that bad or flat...there were a LOT OF open questions....but that´s what the movie wanted to do ...make everybody think WHAT reallity is...are we really here ? Dèja vûs... and so on....everyone has them sometimes...but none can´t say why... :confused:

[Whitewolf]

Different people,different opinions,I guess :)

[Minos]

Originally posted by Diablo
Hey Minos ...I really don´t think that the plot of MATRIX is that bad or flat...there were a LOT OF open questions....but that´s what the movie wanted to do ...make everybody think WHAT reallity is...are we really here ? Dèja vûs... and so on....everyone has them sometimes...but none can´t say why... :confused: I agree! It started with a lot of promise. I liked the first part of it, where they worked on the concept of how our 'reality' is simply a matter of our perceptions. But then it just turned into a standard action film. That's what I meant when I said I was disappointed.

There have been a LOT of other films on the 'What is real?' theme, many of them hardly heard of. The Matrix made it big because of its advertising hype – and, it must be said, the excellent special effects.

But have you seen Jacob's Ladder? Very weird and disturbing. And unlike The Matrix it kept you disoriented all the way through, and the ending was quite unpredictable. Not one for the kiddies though! More horror than sci-fi.

Or Videodrome, or eXistenZ (both David Cronenberg films). He was a bit sloppy with the plots (particularly with Videodrome), but it captured the feeling of the main character's complete loss of touch with reality extremely well. Rather stomach-churning, but powerful stuff.

And how many people have even heard of Dark City? But while the plot was a little weak, it certainly kept you guessing, and the special effects were superb as well.

[Diablo]

WOW ! MINOS ! YOU SAW "eXistenZ" ?

ONly A few people on earth saw it ! I SAW IT TOO ! Great huh ? This strange living pink coloured pad...rub on it and....away...A great CANADIAN film...I am really surprised that YOU saw it ! GREAT ! :tup:

[Warspite]

" Dark City" WAS excellent - very weird, and very ORIGINAL
(a word that seems to be missing from Hollywood dictionaries...)

[Diablo]

Well...I saw DARK CITY as well...really weird.. :bigeye: ..but cool and DARK !

[Warspite]

Diablo !!!! :eek:

EOC just restarted - get online NOW!!!!
I owe you a few shots in the boondocks...

[Diablo]

:devil: WARSPITE ! :devil:

I AM ONLINE ! NOW I KICK YOUR LITTLE *** ! :devil: DIE ! :dark:

[Warspite]

What faction are you Bumface? :coolred:

[Diablo]

Well...you will see me early enough...at least when you are crashing... :devil:

[Whitewolf]

Last I saw.......
MadDiablodeleted....
What's up with that?

[Diablo]

Check again ! I only change my team ! :grngrin: :grntngue: :tup:

[Whitewolf]

Why?
ANd that IS rather illegal.......

[Diablo]

Illegal ? Illegal what ? I can join the party I want ! :devil:

[Warspite]

Well which loser faction are you in NOW then?
Geez :rollani:

PS You are not supposed to change faction just cause you don't like the colour - you haven't played before, so we will let you off this time.Dont do it again...we know where you live :eekblue:
PPS when are you going to get to FF? I have been here 3 days, and I haven't seen you yet monkey-boy :mad:

[Whitewolf]

Check for MadDiablo,if he's still using that name.

[Warspite]

aahh - I see he is still MadDiablo, Of course - and he is "fighting"for the Third Way. I dont know where he is, but if you look at the rankings, he doesn't seem to be having a very good time... :devil:

[Diablo]

Hey Monkey -butt ! Where are you ? I miss you ! I hate Firefrost so I stay in the warth of my sector...HAHA ! LOOSER ! I level up and then get your metal butt ! :grngrin: :devil:

[Warspite]

You dont need to level up now - I went back to Liberty HQ the quick route, so if we meet again you will have a fair chance...I am back to level1 :grngrin: I'll still knock your socks off though....

[Diablo]

Ohhhhh......awwwwww....have you been killed...I am so sorry ! LOOSER! :devil:

[Warspite]

I did it on purpose - the only way you will have a fair fight with me is if I am a level 1 fighter :rollani:
If I had a PROPER ship, people would say I was being cruel, picking on poor defenceless demons....

I'm going to be mostly offline next couple of days - but I'll find you, and when I do, you'll KNOW youv'e been spoken to.... :devil:

[Diablo]

Well...try to hit a Level 10 fighter then....you level 1 junkie....I SURVIVED FLYING THROUGH YOUR WHOLE SECTOR , STARTING AT HOT ROCK WITHOUT GETTING KILLED:... :devil: :dark:

[Warspite]

Thats because everyone knows you're a Newbie, and we didn't want to frighten you... :angel:

[Diablo]

HA ! I wasn´t a newbie ! And they shot at me, either ! HA ! I am celebrated as a hero...now try this in our sector....I am waitng with my lev 5.... :devil: :dark:

[Warspite]

Was that a dare? Ok, see you soon... :devil:

[Diablo]

YOU AND ME ! I AM WAITING ! :devil: :dark:

[Whitewolf]

Hmm.....
can I join in?Of course,I'll be wanting a piece of Diablo's ship as a souvenior.I hope that is not too much?:D
Hehe

[WingCommander]

too late buddy, Diablo is not playing now and all his ship's parts are really expensive in the black market

[Whitewolf]

Awww.....
I'm too slow these days.lol

[Diablo]

Perhaps I am back in game 7 !!!!

Here Whitey...it was me who nearly killed Wing C several times...thanks to our great Navy siege !

I shot him plenty of times !

The only think they got was my decoy...I am on the Bahamas with tenebra at the moment....and my ship of course ! :grngrin: :tup:

[WingCommander]

Originally posted by Diablo
Perhaps I am back in game 7 !!!!

Here Whitey...it was me who nearly killed Wing C several times...thanks to our great Navy siege !

I shot him plenty of times !

The only think they got was my decoy...I am on the Bahamas with tenebra at the moment....and my ship of course ! :grngrin: :tup:

Yes, true. just in case someone didn't understood yet, I will reapeat that magic word... NEARLY Good tries however, even with that fleet of yours and the Oman one I was surprised you could even get a single shoot on me...

[kamakazie ghst]

zombies :devil: zombies are the absolute best their practically invunerable. That is unless you have a gun. ;)

[Minos]

You don't have to tell me – I've just started playing Resident Evil 2!

Zombies aren't very tough though – it's all that rotting flesh. They just go to pieces. :rollani:

[Diablo]

You play Resident Evil 2 ? WOW ! ONe of the best parts ever ! Who do you play now ? The guy or the girl ? Hey did you know that if you beat the game within a certain amount of time....that you can play one character of the Umbrella corp.?


I mean you can play a soldier of Umbrella ! It a fits into the story ! GREAT ! HAve you fought against the mutated huge alligator yet? In the sewer ? OH my god ! That game is SO great ! And SO long ! :eek:

[WingCommander]

Resident Evil 2 is quite good, but don't try RE3, is just ****, better go for RE Code Veronica, my favouite of the series

[Diablo]

YEP ! I think absolutely the same ! Honestly ! :wierdblu:

[2potscreama]

You can also play as a slab of Tofu. Called Tofu. You are only armed with a knife. And you change colour and makes strange squealing noises when attacked.

It's true I tell you.

[Understudy]

Having a quiet day Pots? :grngrin: