To all the people that went to TVS

[Indomitable]

I followed and i avrive to see a Massive multie squadron moveing about the game.

These ships have been doing just the same as the group in league did last round. However in TVS theres more of them. Low and behold there FC and players dont think they are multies either.

From what ive seen all these people that think TVS is a refuge from cheats or has less of them then EOC, you are wrong it is just as bad.

What makes this worse is the fact that TVS has got a game admin wingee and this is going on right under his nose and yet nothink is getting done....

People can that the multies might be office workers or school chums. I tell you this if they are either of those then hows a company with 25+ people that for an houre in every 3 are not doing work for the company it must be a very unpriductive one. The same gos for school, these ships are constantly loged in right though the tick, do they not have lessons? are they learning anything? do they not do any otrher subject then comp sci?

No i think its more a case if a large group look like a multie then they are a multie maybe controled by more then one person but still with many ships.

As for hacking ive seen the same kind of reports from TVS and ive only been playing 9 days. So to all the people that think EOC is poorl run and full of cheats. TVS is just the same


on a side note. sorry jatblack i had to return the favor :grngrin: you helped kill my lvl 4 (which was sooooo close to lvl 5 :cry: ) so its only fitting that you became another notch on the side of of my ship :angel: and i cant find you on the taunt list :eekblue:

[Hamster]

As first, in TVS the strategy is moving like the multis in EOC. They all go in large blobs from planet to planet and I had no nerves and time to find out on what logic they move arround. Every battle is 50 against 50 ships at least.

About the active status in TVS - you can play it by WAP and you have status watcher add-ons as small desktop applications that alert you if attacked and I'm not sure if they show you looged in. If yes - you can work, be productive and be alerted on few events.

hamster (TVS real_Hamster)

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Would all ex and future EOC-Online players who participate in TVS make an BIG rogue squad?
Would be fine, especially after the next game starts. This way we could learn them some tactics as I haven't seem there any in the whole present game.

[Indomitable]

If that was the, which it isnt then you might want to read there BB

It reads just like ours dose right down to the FC of krills staements read just like 5* did

sorry but to use add-on like the alarm dosnt work as one squad or larg multy mass was online for 4 turns strate no one would do that with there WAP phone either

this is why nothing gets done becuase people try and use these things as a reason to explain away multies just as people use office workers or school m8s here

there is a multie problem just asbad if not worse there becuase its easyer to get away with it there you have 4 things that you can use to explain your actions there what hamster has said just gos to show it

no they dont show you as loged on as i use them and have already asked that question of someone

[jetblack_uk]

Originally posted by Indomitable
I followed and i avrive to see a Massive multie squadron moveing about the game.

These ships have been doing just the same as the group in league did last round. However in TVS theres more of them. Low and behold there FC and players dont think they are multies either.

From what ive seen all these people that think TVS is a refuge from cheats or has less of them then EOC, you are wrong it is just as bad.

What makes this worse is the fact that TVS has got a game admin wingee and this is going on right under his nose and yet nothink is getting done....

People can that the multies might be office workers or school chums. I tell you this if they are either of those then hows a company with 25+ people that for an houre in every 3 are not doing work for the company it must be a very unpriductive one. The same gos for school, these ships are constantly loged in right though the tick, do they not have lessons? are they learning anything? do they not do any otrher subject then comp sci?

No i think its more a case if a large group look like a multie then they are a multie maybe controled by more then one person but still with many ships.

As for hacking ive seen the same kind of reports from TVS and ive only been playing 9 days. So to all the people that think EOC is poorl run and full of cheats. TVS is just the same


on a side note. sorry jatblack i had to return the favor :grngrin: you helped kill my lvl 4 (which was sooooo close to lvl 5 :cry: ) so its only fitting that you became another notch on the side of of my ship :angel: and i cant find you on the taunt list :eekblue:


Ho hum :cry: :cry: :cry:
Still if i'm gonna die at least its from a someone i know and respect :tup:
As to multi'ing yup have to agree it does occur.
Is it any worse or better than EoCo ? Roughy the same i'm afraid...its just easy to spot in EoCo. It is punished rather quicker though as Wingee at least does 'drop his hammer' on them whenever he spots them. He would in EoCO if he had admin control.

**edited for a couple of typo's only **

[Torgarth]

Eoc has about 200 active players - multi ships at any given time.

TVS has 1200 active players - multi ships.

The multis there dont count much....

and when they DO start counting as much as they do in EoC I think its time to quit that game too.

SO indomitable, you trying to make it ok that EoC has multis because TVS has them is a bad correlation.

[Meteor_uk]

Can someone explain who the multis are in TVS (i guess they're krills form Indomitable's posts. I've been a krill but i've seen no signs of them. :confused:

[Indomitable]

ok torgarth you might want to read my post over untill you understand

what im saying is TVS just like EOC has a multie problem a bad multie problem all you have to do is hang out in taras or read there BB or ask some other players that have played the entire round

so no torgath what im saying is even though TVS has game admins unlike EOC up till now, but like EOC not much is getting done there


and meteor

im now krill as well you might want to read your own BB in the game in our faction

im not saying it is just a krill problem from what ive been told every faction has had some blatant multies however the krill has the biggest amount now and the most blatant

[Constalk]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Indomitable
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People can that the multies might be office workers or school chums. I tell you this if they are either of those then hows a company with 25+ people that for an houre in every 3 are not doing work for the company it must be a very unpriductive one. The same gos for school, these ships are constantly loged in right though the tick, do they not have lessons? are they learning anything? do they not do any otrher subject then comp sci?

No i think its more a case if a large group look like a multie then they are a multie maybe controled by more then one person but still with many ships.

As for hacking ive seen the same kind of reports from TVS and ive only been playing 9 days. So to all the people that think EOC is poorl run and full of cheats. TVS is just the same


you are correct. the last game i took too much time and it looked weird at work. (I kept up with my orders but it looked funny when I would yell at my computer,"I'm gona DIE")
after a while ppl at work would walk in the room and say" are you going to die?". this is not good. still looking for that 12 step program for the game.

(I have been on the german board too long. "I Kept"LOL.)

[Torgarth]

Originally posted by Indomitable
what im saying is TVS just like EOC has a multie problem a bad multie problem all you have to do is hang out in taras or read there BB or ask some other players that have played the entire round

so no torgath what im saying is even though TVS has game admins unlike EOC up till now, but like EOC not much is getting done there

im not saying it is just a krill problem from what ive been told every faction has had some blatant multies however the krill has the biggest amount now and the most blatant

I played the whole round and never withnessed any PROBLEMS with multis really. Not in the scale EoC has them. Yes, of course they EXISTS but they are not as game threatening as the in EoC.

In EoC a group of 10 ships piloted by one player can destroy a base in 2 turns without the real players having any chance to defend.

That could NOT happen in TVS.

I am not saying TVS is a better game, because it is not, but the multi problem is not as visible there as here and not as destructive.

[DaisyDuke]

what im saying is TVS just like EOC has a multie problem a bad multie problem all you have to do is hang out in taras or read there BB or ask some other players that have played the entire round

Not sure if the problem is the same as EOC, but this beta was certainly a lot longer than they have been in the past (admin stopped the game at tic 1000). :rollani:

Those of us you started the beta and saw it through to the end, will tell you the Multi/hacker (if you can call it that)problem seemed to get progressivly worse as the game ran on. This could be for many reasons, one being the influx of new players, another could be the boredom caused by the lack of progression in the game who knows.

There will allways be someone screaming Multi, when a group of ships destroy's them, and they feel that it was wrong. These are normally investigated and forgotten in a few days. :)

The only real Multi squabble, may not acctually be a multi, (for your information Indomitable, the guy spouting on the Main BB is NOT and was not at the time the Kril LC). They are acctually a group of ships that obviously move as a squad. The origional problem was not that they are/could be multi, but in the opinions of some of the Vet's they abbused certain aspects of the game to their advatange, which would be virtually impossible to do with out outside comms.

Unfortunately as with ALL BB discussions, the origional statements get twisted and added to, a bit like chinese whispers. The only people who realy know what the situtation is are the the players who were involved and the admin.

We would hope that Wingee will sort certain aspects of the game, which made it slow and tedious, before the next Beta, hopefully this will give us a better game.

So please guys don't let this one situation, taint the good reputation of TVS, give it a chance :)

[Indomitable]

The only real Multi squabble, may not acctually be a multi, (for your information Indomitable, the guy spouting on the Main BB is NOT and was not at the time the Kril LC).

the guy in question there is the Viceroy or vice FC

and i was also talking about there LC cursed deffending blatant multies in taras

and torgarth i agree the multies cant make as much of an inpact on the bases as in EOC

but there was a group ships all the same ship type all moveing in unison with the same ships that explouted the vaction mode in such away that can only be with out of games coms thuse cheating

all i am trying to get to people is that with the larger amount of players in TVS multie spoting becomes harder and easyer to explan away

I liked TVS theres alot of things i would love to see here in EOC. So please dont take what im saying as me trying to play down TVS as a multie riden game becuase im not

[Rez-Dafara]

TVS is/was a great game. The multi problem wasn't really THAT serious as the multi squad only came in to play VERY late on in the game.

Still, us tibrans got quite a nasty shock when it happened... hehe