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Post all your demo impressions here, giving each category a rating /10 and a short description of your impressions!
Graphics (also how well the game runs) /10
Sound /10
Fun Factor /10
Overall /10
I will update the post with my own impressions.
MAJOR GRIPES :
1) Left clicking on the ground should "deselect" what is currently selected
2) Should be able to zoom out a bit more
3) How about an MP demo, with ground vehicles as well
Graphics 8.5/10
Excellent detail. The game seemed to pause or hiccup a bit every once in a while but nothing too serious. Good detail on the units and buildings.
Sound 8/10
Pretty high quality. I noticed the medivac chopper had no sound, however. Overall, pretty good.
Fun Factor 7.5/10
Unable to build any tanks or other ground vehicles wasn't too exciting.. I got tired of air strikes and infantry in the urban combat areas. I also find garrisoning buildings to be a bit clusmy. It's too hard to tell what buildings are occupied..
Overall 8/10
If they can work out the minor problems the game could become a classic, imo.
One thing that annoyed me was that you couldn't "Deselect" units.
And that the Demo was so short. Hehe.
GrandStrateger
14-01-2005, 18:23
press any unused group, that would deselect in fact (i.e 1,2,3..0)
I was thinking in a more "Easier way", like just clicking on the ground;)
cant get into it....literally
http://www.uk.atari.com/third_party/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5500
the zoom is too "big" but the game is perfect :)
Tiberian
14-01-2005, 19:24
i would like to zoom more out, but i think it's a hell of a game
And how can i turn the map ?? i push the wheel and move the mouse but nothing happens...
Graphics: 8/10
nice detail but for my feeling the structures you can build with the constructor are kinda too futuristic with all that metal.
Sound 6.5/10
The sounds weren't that bad but some voices like the one that notices you when you completely create a unit or structure is really stupid.
Fun Factor: 6/10
The demo was too short. just one mission, you can only build 2 infantry types, 2 aircraft and like 4 buildings. if it the demo had skirmish or multiplayer it would have been more fun.
Overall: 6.5/10
I expected a little bit more from the demo. but the things it includes are good so far. and yes it was annoying that you cant deselect units when you left-click the ground and i thought using Medevac was a bit waste of your time.
Auxarius
14-01-2005, 20:07
What i didn't liked:
A) Let us zoom out more! This is really annoying when i can't see whole battlefield.
B) On my DX8 gfx card water looks like some blue static texture.
C) No deselection with left click.
D) Medical helicopter is complitely useless - if it would be online game my troops would be dead in secs, it should take wounded soldiers onboard and transport them to nearest hospital (if player would've want it)
E) Multiple air units can be in one place, there is no collision detection (at least transport copters)
F) Garrisoned building should have some flag on them - only allied ones.
Graphics: 7,5/10
Unit detail isn't as exciting as expected to be. (maybe it's because of my old gfx card, game detects it and lowers details, but i doubt it) But still it's much better than in Generals.
Sounds: 8,5/10
I can't understand why there's echo in one sound and no echo in another?:o
Fun Factor: 6/10
WAY too short! Didn't show enough of the game:(
Overall: 7/10
Fight with those minor bugs and this game will be best RTS in 2005.
KingsRevenge
14-01-2005, 20:29
I'm hearing good things as I download this thing. 9% Make sure you guys rate the game on the sites you downloaded it from.
TanKilleR
14-01-2005, 21:31
I find it sad that they only let you play one mission. Now dot get me wrong, holy ****! This game rocks. But I was hopeing for maby 2 leves for scermish play. Like what DoW did. Getting to try out all three sides with everthing they offer, would have been hell of alot better, than just one mission, were you cant even try out the vics. I am keeping my fingers crossed for a 2ed demo addon soon, they will offer more.
Sabin Falknir
14-01-2005, 21:37
Graphics 8.0/10
Pretty good detail on most units, except a few below-average textures on a couple units (might be demo limitations).
Sound 8.0/10
Good. Some missing sounds on a few units (probably stripped sounds for demo), the ones that where there are good.
Fun Factor 8.5/10
The demo was a very limited in comparison to what we know is in the retail package, but it was pretty fun and there is a good deal of strategy/tactics made available. I liked running across rooftops, and not knowing when the next building was a waiting ambush spiced things up.
Overall 8.2/10
dethzero
14-01-2005, 21:45
Well I really enjoyed the demo.
graphics: 9/10
With my 9800xt video card the graphics were smooth most of the time untill the end where the big explosions happened. But the performance was still very acceptable. I wish the water was better looking =]
Sound: 8/10
I think the units talk too much. It was getting a bit annoying hearing the same "movement spotted" "tango spotted" every time sone new enemy troop was spotted hehe.
fun factor: 9/10
Needs more cowbell.
Overall: 9/10
Looks like the game will be very fun if they fix the deselecting issue and give us better zoom out feature =] Now... think we can get a skirmish or multiplayer demo with 1 map? Looks like the MP is gonna be chaotic fun =]
I would give the whole game a 10 in general.
Only things i didnt like was
- No deselect
- Demo to short
- Air units no fun to use, they where like the generals abilitys in Generals ZH.
I thought the way aircrafts were implemented was rather clever.
(ugh, i sound like a brit' allthough im not british.)
Graphics: 7/10
Great explotions! :tup:
Sound: 7/10
Some things actually did not have sounds. Like the medic copter. The "enemy spotted" was a good thing.
Fun Factor: 6/10
One mission? And its not even the first mission? I was hoping for at least 1 skirmish map. (and lan... hehe)
It was fun while it lasted though.
Overall: 6/10
Its good, but its not enough of it. And the game won't be released untill March. And in the meantime we get one mission and screenshot updates. Well... we're going to go crazy :p:
Hope there is a chance of another demo. Cause its so long till the game is released. And with this short demo, it is kinda to EARLY to release a demo. :D
AgmLauncher
14-01-2005, 23:52
Basically I think the game looks great, but the demo was not very good. The best demo I've seen was the DoW demo, however DoW itself sucked lol.
Ghostmaker
15-01-2005, 00:14
Hello to all,
reading through the thread, I think I'm the only one disappointed of the Demo.
I hope there are some drastic changes for the complete game. If this is already the final product, I will surely not buy it.
As for the ratings:
Graphics: 9/10
The graphic is the only good thing of the game, I found so far.
Sound: 6/10
As some other people already said, there is way to much talking. After some time, you start missing the important things, because you're stop listening to all the stuff.
Fun Factor: 2/10
Where is the fun? :-( I didn't found any yet. So far I was not able to complete the mission and keep't dying.
Main Points:
1.) Building garrisoning is way to complicated, you often garrison by accident and until you can get your men out, there dead.
2.) The units are too independent, they run around chasing enemies, dying in ambushes and do not stay put even if you wanted them to do so. sometimes even redlined units just healing by the chopper charge into battles head-on.
Overall: 4/10
Basicly the game looks to me, like another one of those wasted graphic engines. The graphic is excellent, but it looks like they forgot the rest of the game. Sure, there are some great Idea's, but most of them don't work.
What's the use of a Hero, if he dies so quickly, you don't even have a chance to rescue him.
Whats the use of all those capture options, when all the enemy's just die in battles. I didn't found a single prisoner.
The only pros are the great aircraft management and the ideas with the base zone and repair vehicles.
I don't know, maybe I simply expected to much. But after seeing those great screenshots and hearing all the new's, I thought, wow, finally a replacement for generals, but as it looks know, it's not even in the same league as generals.
I will try the demo again for sure in a few days, mainly for the reason of the excellent graphic and for my own pride ;-). I must finish this mission.
But for the complete game, my money is now on E2160. I hope they don't make the same mistakes.
Greets
Ghostmaker
MikeDundee
15-01-2005, 01:20
Just a quick review: The demo is way to short and 1 or 2 maps for skirmish or multiplayer would have been great.Little stuff to fix here and there but overall this game is very promessing and I'm pretty much impressed. Gj
KingsRevenge
15-01-2005, 03:14
Graphics - 8/10 = I enjoyed the graphics even though I was running them on default, I did have one situation with zooming in and the particle effects weren't alphablended correctly.
http://www.instinctz.net/kingsrevenge/images/alphablend.JPG
I liked the animations the inf had but I didn't like the zoom level not allowing me to go out enough, but I guess that is because the inf models themselves are kind of dinky.
Sound - 8/10 =Sounds were fine nothing wrong here but nothing special, I would've liked to hear the wounded guys complaininga bout their arms.
Fun Factor - 7/10 = It was fun I ended up getting Jefferson killed I didnt know who he was until I sent a huge group into a massive fight after they kept getting nailed by something I couldn't see. It gave me a good enough glimpse so that you guys can say I will most likely give you my 45 bux.
Overall - 7.5/10
The demo itself gets the job done and gives me a feel for the game. However fix some, actually make that, ALL the KEY issues that us here on the forums talk about so that you won't have to bother recieving flak about it in the final release.
Kampfgruppe
15-01-2005, 03:43
the level of detail close up. It actually is better than Soldiers, Heroes of WW2 close up, which is pretty good.
the graphics look a bit better than the screen shots IMHO...
no zoom out :( Hello? You should be able to zoom out, plain and simple. Plus, the videos show us "in game" shots and they are zoomed out more than we have here.
shortness of the demo. This will not keep me occupied very long. some of you have already completed the demo and it's the first day already...
(hope they allow modding of this thing - it reminds me of Sudden Strike many years back. The demo came out and then months (like 8 months) later the game came out. Multiple mods appeared by then)
with the demo this short, the game should be released sooner or vice versa..
7/10 and don't know if I'll buy it at this point.
PC Gamer picked it to be a potential top 10 for next year btw
BOMBLORD
15-01-2005, 12:30
for all thos people that said theire man kept getting killed
USE RECON! it's a realistic game.in REAL LIFE,no comannder is sending his units to battle in blind eyes.
imported_Rhodan
15-01-2005, 12:39
MAJOR GRIPES :
1) Left clicking on the ground should "deselect" what is currently selected
2) Should be able to zoom out a bit more
I agree with the above, please, please, please, please, please let us zoom out more !!!!!!!
This game looks like it will be a classic ! :biggringr
MetalPhoenix
15-01-2005, 15:57
Originally posted by BOMBLORD
for all thos people that said theire man kept getting killed
USE RECON! it's a realistic game.in REAL LIFE,no comannder is sending his units to battle in blind eyes.
I thought that was ridiculously obvious lol.;)
I think this game has great potential.
Main problems though.
ZOOM!!!!
Deselecting Units.
Air units were great the way they intercept targets on route, and pick an alternative target if yours is blown up.
Although I would hope for some smaller planes that you have complete control over.
Oh and Demo is too short and need multiplayer demo - Its a bit annoying downloading 600 odd meg, for one mission.
Personally i thought the demo was great - sure there was no vechiles or anything but it was still very good. The thing im really happy about is the damage system - it's really well balanced and feels really good when compared to other RTS games. Can't wait to play as the Consortium. . .
Graphics: 9.5 / 10
Sound: 8/10
Fun Factor: 8.5 / 10
Overal: 8.5+ / 10 - would be 10 if i could have been the Consortium ( :
NinjaCool
15-01-2005, 17:24
The zoomout level definitly need to be expanded then what we can in the demo :bounce:
Here is my review:
Graphics 9/10
Very nice and no flaws. I still think that Dawn of War had better combat graphics though. Ive read many of you complaining about zoom. I had no problems with the zoom at all.
Sound 7/10
good but nothing special compared to other RTS games.
Gameplay 8/10
Solid and fun. I really liked how they implemented air control.
Fun Factor 3/10
Okay, I don't know why they picked that mission. When I first went to play it I was so confused. It took me three tries to finally beat it. The inability to make defensive structures was stupid, and only being able to build two units wasn't very fun. A tutorial was definetley neccessary, as well as some skirmish or multiplayer options.
Overall 7/10
The game itself has potential, but this demo was a real let down.
BOMBLORD
15-01-2005, 18:02
well,for that you got thos bunkers.put some snipers in tham(minimum of 5 ) and all thos troops are dead meat !
Graphics: fine, but the coast line and sea were a disappointment. One blue part as a cooastline??? That can use some improvement.
delete the medic helicopter, a medic as a person would be welcome.
Zoom in was way too much, i'd rather like to see that more zoom out for better view over the battlefield.
Deselecting units, just a simple right click somewhere on the field. That's less confusing.
I really really disliked this part of the game.
For the rest the demo play was great.
Originally posted by BOMBLORD
well,for that you got thos bunkers.put some snipers in tham(minimum of 5 ) and all thos troops are dead meat !
Funny, when I tried doing that, the computer either bypassed the bunkers or used rocket guys which seemed to outrange my snipers.
well. i have a fx gfx card so i was a bit disapointed with the performance, but the readme mentions there are problems with the fx series.
the graphics are great tho. i would prefer things smoother such as the helicopter lift off, which in my opinion is too fast and sudden. alot of neat ideas. looking forward to see where things go.
rojar_parit
16-01-2005, 23:02
great demo just waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too short.. my xfx fx 5900 128 has no problems running this thing in its full glory (without overclocking..only thing I dont like is the orange menu...I get the shivers every time I am at the main menu)
Ad-Aware
17-01-2005, 01:32
orange menu?
sure there isnt somehting wrong with your monitor?
MetalPhoenix
17-01-2005, 13:00
My ratings:
Gameplay: 9.5
High reliance on micro, nice overall system. The POW and airstrike systems are good, and I like the fact that infantry are the backbone of the army.
Graphics: 8
Neat, although there were problems with the shadows and the afterburners looked kind of dumb.
Sound: 9
Constant updates, cool combat sounds.
Fun Factor: 8
Constant combat kept me on my toes, and designating airstrikes was cool.
Overall: 9
Highly promising, final version should be awesome
Graphics: 8/10
Nice graphics. explosions look real but why should a smaal sandbag bunker explode so big??
Sound 7/10
oke, needs some nature sound or something. birds! ;)
Fun Factor: 6.5/10
well it's fun but it's to easy to use the planes and the buggy sucks. well hope the armor gets in soon.
Overall: 7/10
the next points should be taken care of:
(hope so)
- Bunkers on the beach are faced forward but soldiers can fire 360 degrees. With the shape of this bunker that is not possible and the week point should be the back.
- Sniper should outrange RPG soldier of the opfor. the Barret sniper rifle has a much longer range than the RPG. An RPG has only fuel for hitting stationary target at 500 meters. while the gunner must be a real trained soldier to do that. The barett has an evective range of 1800 meters well needs to be a good sniper to hit something do...but you get the point.
- Haven't found a way to get my soldiers across any obstacles or to blow them up....
- while the buggy could not cross the barbet wire at the "shooting range" part of the level (center left) the little builder could. maybe because of the tracks...
- medvac chopper should pervorm his task even when dameged. It just stop healing soldiers....
- capturing enemy instalations for cash or change in own tech fasillity's
-well the zoom as evryone states
- maybe some civilians?
- the bug I found:
when in the right side of the map near the destroyed base. I put a two soldiers into building and took them out... but then the respawned on a piece of hill and they could not get out of there.... hmmz
there are some other points but okey gameplay got to live !!
what I find really nice is that finally infantry is fairly stronger compared to other RTS games
The prophet
23-01-2005, 20:56
Good : Graphics, reality, explosions.
Bad : ZOOM!!!, some sounds missing, mission is boring, and of course too short.
I first downloaded the demo on the AoW site and after downloading it...
SUPRISE it d'oesnt work so i had to download it from an other site and wast a lot of time and after waitting that long what do i get ONLY 1 MISSION !!!! and not a very cool one, all you get is a bunch of snipers 3 buggies some infantry soldiers and some so easy to use aircrafts wich was the main weapon of the mission and made it eaven more boring.
I had fun playing the demo and i hope there will be a M.P. demo
Why ? cause i can't wait till march.
Its a bit irritating with the amount of people saying theyd like full skirmish and multiplayer in the Demo.
If they done that thered be no point in buying the game, except for Campaign mode, which isnt important if youve got the rest of the game for free.
As for people who cant complete the game because your guy keeps getting killed....
Leave him in your base :S
I left him in the base, and just built new units and took them out to complete the objectives....
AgentJ_LW
25-01-2005, 02:24
Gameplay: 8.5
Well rounded, but I like more options when commanding my army. 'Hold Fire,' 'Return Fire,' ect. Of course, things like this might go in (or have already gone in.)
Graphics: 8.5
Good. Better than Generals, in my opinion. There are a few minor quirks with the ground details I had though... things not looking 'realistic.'
Some model scaling was also a bit off... in my opinion.
Sound: 8.0
Its ok. I like a good well-written and composed soundtrack going on in the background. Where's a good hard-core fighting song when you need it!
I also had a slight problem with the sound. Every so often, it would play 1 sound really loud. Like a bomb going off, or a plane flying. After I moved the screen a bit, the sound would dissapear and not come back. Odd bug.
Fun Factor / Replay-ability: 8.0
The demo wasn't too small, but it wasn't too large either. Of course, some of these screenshots show HUGE levels & I am one for large levels. I like exploring around the map, and having many diffrent paths available for me to take, to get my objective done.
Overall: 9.0
Looks like a well-made game. Brings me back to the old days of C&C games, now brought on by this new generation of War-Stratedgy games. Seems like lots of games of this type have been back and forth between past, present and future, which is great... I've always liked having diffrent timezones available for me to fight around in. :)
Looking forward to the release of this one.
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