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sdack
20-04-2005, 04:44
Of course there is no off-topic area here so far, but to start one right now: What do you think about having a german pope?

On BBC they said something like: "Jesus! A german as a pope."
A french who could not believe it said: "He is just a temporary."
An old woman here in germany thinks it would be fantastic.

I think, if we all are sheep and the Lord is the shepherd, then he got himself a german shepherd dog. :angel:

What do you think?

Sven

Crocodile
20-04-2005, 07:48
Actually there is an off topic section.

sdack
20-04-2005, 13:57
I see. Thought they would have one inside this forum instead for all of them together ...

Admins, please move the thread!

Sven

Kiev_Axe
20-04-2005, 14:28
Since you asked, i will tell you exactly what i think.

The POPE..like any other ornamental peice of decoration, is a title that is equivalent to hanging a certification plackard stating you completed a
"2 week, teach yourself Microsoft Word" course.

Like the queen of england, the prince of england and any other novlety royalty, the pope is nothing more then an icon.

INfact, relegion, the one he represents..indeed all relegion no longer serve a purpose in society, as Law enforcement has taken its place.

There is no more need for morals, and threat of going to a mythical hell for sins, when instead you could be threatened with a more real, more feasable (and more immediate) reality of spending years, or life in prison for "sin" or "wrong doing".

It doesnt matter if a German is the pope, if a Nigerian is a Pope...if an Australian is a pope..it wont affect YOUR every day life in any way. It may glue you to the tv once a blue moon..when the newly elected pope might pass "controversial" propositions like allowing condoms, so "Kosher" (and i use Kosher for a reason) or Strict Catholics can finnaly enjoy having sex without the drawback (and guilt) of waiting 9 months before they can go at it again.

Heck...we might even see less Kiddy Fiddling Church stories.
Who knows...those precious 5 or 6 mins (in a year) of TV that we might watch as a result of the new Popes actions...might take us away from 5 or 6 mins spent wathcing commercials...and purchasing more consumer goods , to make our selves feel better...and console ourselves, about our pitiful and meaningless life.

bazzaredodge
20-04-2005, 16:59
The German pope was in the Nazi Youth thingy wasnt he?

I find that.... odd. :lightbulb

driv3r rulezzz
20-04-2005, 17:42
oh yea, maybe he is gonna take over the world :lightbulb

talking about useless stuff :weirdblue

Tommy Gun
20-04-2005, 19:39
he's cunning, i'll give him that.

hitler youth
then joined an anti-aircraft panzer division

just when he saw the war was about to be lost, he turned his back on the nazis and pretended he had nothing to do with them :weirdblue

Gohan_ssj_flame
21-04-2005, 06:11
Well Kiev_Axe, your synecism(did I spell that right? probably not), reminds me of Tenebra's loss of faith in the human race....which I totaly agree with.

The problem with any religion of course comes down to the people who follow it. They claim worship of God, or gods, depending on the religion in question, but instead base their lives on laws given by human beings, who of course intertwine their own prejudices into them. I myself am a christian, but despise the religion itself, which claims that women are inferior to men, and homesexuality is immoral, simply because of the people who lead the religions, deem so.

The fact is the Bible, while as I said has laws which were created by man, was also constructed in it's form by man as well. The current christian bible, was put together in the 3rd century, by the male leaders of the newly formed Roman Catholic church. At this time there were in fact dozens of Gospels, including one which was found a decade or so ago, based around Mary Magdelene. This specific Gospel preaches about the equality of women, but of course the men who put the Bible together decided to leave this particular Gospel out. We will never know of the other Gospels and laws that were abandoned, in favour of prejudice, and a superiority complex.

Perhaps one of these Gospels even gave the laws of Jesus instead. He gave two laws, 'Love the Lord your God, with all your heart, with all your strength, with all your mind, and with all your soul', and 'Love thy neighbour as yourself' (I think, somehing like that anyway). Basically he means treat each other with kindness, and that's it. Prejudice and bigotry is in direct violation of this law, and yet it seems to be at the heart of the christian churchm which is a sad thing indeed, so I will leave you with my philosophy on this matter.


In theory religion is based on compassion, acceptance, and understanding.
In practise, it is used as an excuse for the exact opposite.

Thunderchild
21-04-2005, 09:12
Well Kiev_Axe, your synecism(did I spell that right? probably not), reminds me of Tenebra's loss of faith in the human race....which I totaly agree with.

The problem with any religion of course comes down to the people who follow it. They claim worship of God, or gods, depending on the religion in question, but instead base their lives on laws given by human beings, who of course intertwine their own prejudices into them. I myself am a christian, but despise the religion itself, which claims that women are inferior to men, and homesexuality is immoral, simply because of the people who lead the religions, deem so.

The fact is the Bible, while as I said has laws which were created by man, was also constructed in it's form by man as well. The current christian bible, was put together in the 3rd century, by the male leaders of the newly formed Roman Catholic church. At this time there were in fact dozens of Gospels, including one which was found a decade or so ago, based around Mary Magdelene. This specific Gospel preaches about the equality of women, but of course the men who put the Bible together decided to leave this particular Gospel out. We will never know of the other Gospels and laws that were abandoned, in favour of prejudice, and a superiority complex.

Perhaps one of these Gospels even gave the laws of Jesus instead. He gave two laws, 'Love the Lord your God, with all your heart, with all your strength, with all your mind, and with all your soul', and 'Love thy neighbour as yourself' (I think, somehing like that anyway). Basically he means treat each other with kindness, and that's it. Prejudice and bigotry is in direct violation of this law, and yet it seems to be at the heart of the christian churchm which is a sad thing indeed, so I will leave you with my philosophy on this matter.


In theory religion is based on compassion, acceptance, and understanding.
In practise, it is used as an excuse for the exact opposite.

Did such reason come form the mouth of a DBZ junkie? :eekblue:
I shall have to re-appraise my whole approach to the Yoof of the world now..thats so annoying! :sour:

cranium
21-04-2005, 10:45
I think that Kiev_Axe has a point.

on another note: although contraversial to say so, I absolutely hate the monarchy with a passion. the queen apparently bringing in millions of pounds for the country each year.
royalty don't do anything apart from be a tourist attraction (or go on skiing holidays). Stick them in a cage in alton towers have have done with it. :madred:

Warspite
21-04-2005, 10:51
Good idea -put them somewhere we can poke them with sticks :tup:

cranium
21-04-2005, 10:53
Horrahhh! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
"Go on, poke her in the eye!!! Selfish COW."

*mild editing there - nothing to see, move along folks, move along*

tenebra_uk
21-04-2005, 11:01
Sounds like quite a few people actually believe that the Church doesn't have a political influence. Hmmm. I think some of you are skipping some of the news when reading the newspapers.

I'll make only 2 points, very briefly: I find it pretty sad that nationality should still be such an issue. You are taking the whole nazi thing completely out of the historical and social context. It was the accepted (as much this can be contested for different reasons) establishment. My father, as a small kiddie, had to be part of the Figli della Lupa (the fascist equivalent of the nazi youth). Do you reckon it was his choice? I can tell you for sure that his political beliefs are far from being in line with what the fascism offered. Personally I'm not too happy about the new pope but simply as he's strongly conservative and this will have repercussions both on a political level and as an influence on the Christian population.
Second bit - established religions are human creations, they are not the pure expression of let's call it "spiritual essence" just for lack of a better word. They are not god matter, they're human matter.

Warspite
21-04-2005, 11:03
They're just daft mate.

I believe in Mrs W and Audi, in that order :coolred:

Kiev_Axe
21-04-2005, 12:17
"In theory religion is based on compassion, acceptance, and understanding.
In practise, it is used as an excuse for the exact opposite."

Sounds about right.
I considermy self of no religion..ie aethist.
My cynicism is far far worse then i have written above..but to state it here would mean ruffling a lot of feathers...so ill leave it there...God forbid one of the mods be relelgious and take offence.

Warspite
21-04-2005, 12:38
We don't need to be religious to take offence -we do it on general principle, or because it's Thursday, that type of thing :D

Gohan_ssj_flame
21-04-2005, 13:37
"In theory religion is based on compassion, acceptance, and understanding.
In practise, it is used as an excuse for the exact opposite."

Sounds about right.
I considermy self of no religion..ie aethist.
My cynicism is far far worse then i have written above..but to state it here would mean ruffling a lot of feathers...so ill leave it there...God forbid one of the mods be relelgious and take offence.

Well I'm glad you liked it, and you gave the correct spelling for 'cynicism' as well, thanks :D

I'm pretty much the same, I could make several long-winded posts, before I'd even thought of something to say, but people would be offended so I won't

tenebra_uk
21-04-2005, 13:48
I find people wearing orange t-shirts very offensive :sour:

Well reasoned, cussing-free, flaming-free debates will be welcome, as long as you read your own posts a couple of times before pressing the "submit reply" button.

Tommy Gun
21-04-2005, 14:34
despite my personal opinions on religion and the institution of the major religions, there is nothing like a good long talk on the nature of everything.

like yesterday, i spent an hour just sitting in the park talking to a mate about, where the universe came from, where we came from, what makes us us and stuff like that.

if anything, religion is helpful in society simply as a debating subject :rolleyesa

my personal opinions on religion (taken to the extreme simply to annoy the americans) can be found all over the Atari US forums...just have a look for "does god exist?" ;)

Warspite
21-04-2005, 14:52
We know, we know :rolleyesa

YOU my boy, need to see a film called "Altered States" - its got William Hurt in, is very daft, and leads you to ponder things such as "What WAS the first thought?" and what happened when we became fully sentient? Did it just happen?*click* Like that? :confused:

tenebra_uk
21-04-2005, 14:59
Oh, yeeees, Altered States :biggringr

Now I feel like having a lengthy ramble on life but the marketing plan is calling "Teeeeneeee...Teeeeeeneeee". Please make it go away :eek:

Crocodile
21-04-2005, 16:08
Well I can't go into detail on this topic because I'm not religious. I don't believe in any god and I have my own oppinions. For things like the universe we just don't know how the universe was created and we will never know. I don't deeply care about catholism, christianity ect. My arguements state that if God loves us so much then why did the tsunami happen? Why do volcanoes erupt near ppl? Why are some people murderers? Why do fatal accidents happen? If he loves us so much why does he kill people in disasters. If he has the power to create them why does he? It's because (in my oppinion) No one controls the universe, no being makes things happen. So thats why I don't believe in God.

Please note that if this post have offended anyone please tell me immediatly.

Tommy Gun
21-04-2005, 16:26
mmmm....sounds interesting spitey :tup:

i think my "god" is similar to the god of religious people...

i have faith in energy, something we can't hold or see, but we assume it's there by things that happen because of it.
Energy created the universe, energy is everywhere, energy is allpowerful.

The only decernable difference, is that energy doesn't favour a human over a blade of grass...we are what we are, by accident.

volcanoes explode because energy makes them, it doesn't care about human lives, it cares about nothing, it simply exists.

we are simply a load of decisions of yes and no, on and off that create a complex object, like a computer.

But we are more than that? we have a soul?
or is it simply that the difference between the complexity of the decisions in a computer and a human, is an extra 5million years of evolution. :rolleyesa

may seem a very bleak outlook on life, that we are the way we are, so survive, and reproduce. True it's nice to have some fun in the mean time, but after death, we are no more. As a species we can try to exist for as long as possible before the energy of the sun consumes us all. :tup:

Crocodile
21-04-2005, 16:31
mmmm....sounds interesting spitey :tup:

i think my "god" is similar to the god of religious people...

i have faith in energy, something we can't hold or see, but we assume it's there by things that happen because of it.
Energy created the universe, energy is everywhere, energy is allpowerful.

The only decernable difference, is that energy doesn't favour a human over a blade of grass...we are what we are, by accident.

volcanoes explode because energy makes them, it doesn't care about human lives, it cares about nothing, it simply exists.

we are simply a load of decisions of yes and no, on and off that create a complex object, like a computer.

But we are more than that? we have a soul?
or is it simply that the difference between the complexity of the decisions in a computer and a human, is an extra 5million years of evolution. :rolleyesa

may seem a very bleak outlook on life, that we are the way we are, so survive, and reproduce. True it's nice to have some fun in the mean time, but after death, we are no more. As a species we can try to exist for as long as possible before the energy of the sun consumes us all. :tup:
Well I believe in life after death. Which when that happens you go to the spirit realm and in turn you can come back to Earth.

Warspite
21-04-2005, 16:49
Well you lot also need to read "Reality Dysfunction", and the 2 other books in the trilogy, by Peter F Hamilton. Just trust me kids - you WILL love these books.Honest - just trust me - go to the Library RIGHT NOW.

Thats an order :coolred:

tenebra_uk
21-04-2005, 16:58
They only listen to Thunderchild :(

Crocodile
21-04-2005, 17:13
They only listen to Thunderchild :(
I listen to all mods.

Tommy Gun
21-04-2005, 17:17
yes sir Mr Warspite Sir

Tenny is jealous of Warspite...whoops, didn't mean to say that :confusedb hehe

Croc, don't you find your believes a little naive?
i don't know how old you are, so i don't want to upset you, but surely not believing in God or religion, but still wanting there to an afterlife is simply holding onto a safety blanket because of a fear of death, and the fact that our existance isn't iternal?

sdack
21-04-2005, 17:57
About him beeing a Nazi ... so far I only heard he was in the Nazi youth. To counter that argument I have to write, that every boy and girl, if not jewish, was in the Nazi youth. Probably only the kids of those who knew what was coming towards them and who left Germany were not in the Nazi youth or only for a brief time. The kids wanted to be in it and because all their friends were in it. It is hard to tell a child no when you cannot explain it and act according to your believe (as a consequence leave). There was also no internet and the newspapers were not as open as they are today. Leaving your country just because your hear a rumour going through your village was for most people also out of the question. So either you went with it or you left. It was a hard time and the times before were even harder.

I would rather ask myself if all this, the being a Nazi and the second war, made him turn towards the church. I have more respect for someone who turns towards the church rather than for those who only know one side (only experienced piece).

I do not think he is proud of his past nor that he is a person who needs to be. More important is that he seeked knowledge and was successful at that.

Last thing that needs to be thought of is, why would he be the last pope's right hand, if his past had been so bad?

Oh, one more thing stays to be thought about. He opened the documents to the spanish inquisition while he was a cardinal. Now being a pope, will he re-esablish it?

Sven

sdack
21-04-2005, 17:59
Well you lot also need to read "Reality Dysfunction", and the 2 other books in the trilogy, by Peter F Hamilton. Just trust me kids - you WILL love these books.Honest - just trust me - go to the Library RIGHT NOW.

Thats an order :coolred:
Is it o.k. when we just trust in you loving these books?

Sven

Crocodile
21-04-2005, 18:00
yes sir Mr Warspite Sir

Tenny is jealous of Warspite...whoops, didn't mean to say that :confusedb hehe

Croc, don't you find your believes a little naive?
i don't know how old you are, so i don't want to upset you, but surely not believing in God or religion, but still wanting there to an afterlife is simply holding onto a safety blanket because of a fear of death, and the fact that our existance isn't iternal?
O a non spirit person. OK, anyway I'm 12. I don't find my beliefs naive. For one reason. There my beliefs and I'm not asking you to fllow them.

Tommy Gun
21-04-2005, 18:13
i wasn't expecting me to follow them...

i just thought it was odd :rolleyes:

Crocodile
21-04-2005, 18:20
i wasn't expecting me to follow them...

i just thought it was odd :rolleyes:
Well everyone has thier own oppinions and beliefs. And they are mine.

Tommy Gun
21-04-2005, 18:28
good,

i wish i had them, as mine are rather despressing, especially when they were my views since i were 7 or so :frownblue

as for spitey, i checked with my library, and they say they may have a copy...not that i'll actually bother to go to the library and get them...but at least it shows you weren't just making them up ;)

tenebra_uk
21-04-2005, 18:30
*nods* As I said earlier, remember to be tactful. It's a delicate subject, if you want to debate do it graciously. If you don't agree with someone's opinions, you can politely and intelligently try to refute them.

Tommy Gun
21-04-2005, 18:41
indeed.

i may not believe in the super natural, but i do believe that there is other life in the universe.

Statistically, there should be plenty of life out in thte universe, but the chance that there is an intelligent enough species close enough that they can visit earth, is highly unlikely...

because simply by looking at random sampling, you'd expect, that
if there was a species that close, and that more advanced than us,
then there should be a much higher density of life in the universe and we would have found at least something very basic already.

So i don't believe in the people that say they've been abducted by aliens, but i also don't believe the people that say we are alone in the universe...unique.

Crocodile
21-04-2005, 18:46
indeed.

i may not believe in the super natural, but i do believe that there is other life in the universe.

Statistically, there should be plenty of life out in thte universe, but the chance that there is an intelligent enough species close enough that they can visit earth, is highly unlikely...

because simply by looking at random sampling, you'd expect, that
if there was a species that close, and that more advanced than us,
then there should be a much higher density of life in the universe and we would have found at least something very basic already.

So i don't believe in the people that say they've been abducted by aliens, but i also don't believe the people that say we are alone in the universe...unique.
Well someone said that there should be at least 100,000,000,000,000 planets with life on them.

cranium
21-04-2005, 19:10
We know, we know :rolleyesa

YOU my boy, need to see a film called "Altered States" - its got William Hurt in, is very daft, and leads you to ponder things such as "What WAS the first thought?" and what happened when we became fully sentient? Did it just happen?*click* Like that? :confused:

Great film. :tup:

Tommy Gun
21-04-2005, 19:25
I would also argue that atheism is the default position, since it is generally impossible to prove the nonexistence of God. Instead, pointing out the flaws in arguments FOR the existence of God is sufficient to show the improbabilities of existence. The burden of proof lies on the person who is trying to prove the less probable. I'd like to see some evidence FOR God existing please - something that would hold up in court
amen :tup:

sdack
21-04-2005, 19:26
...
So i don't believe in the people that say they've been abducted by aliens, but i also don't believe the people that say we are alone in the universe...unique.
I do believe in them! Because if you do not, they stop talking and you will miss the whole story.

For those however who tell you we are all alone, I believe they only do that so you get used to the thought and be surpised, when there is actually more than just us.

That of course can be seen as a military advantage for the aliens and people who are telling you that could already be aliens preparing for a suprise attack.

Sven

Tommy Gun
21-04-2005, 19:30
are you trying to say what i think you are...

that people that say we are alone are infact military tacticians and undercover agents for the alien force?

Crocodile
21-04-2005, 19:32
I do believe in them! Because if you do not, they stop talking and you will miss the whole story.

For those however who tell you we are all alone, I believe they only do that so you get used to the thought and be surpised, when there is actually more than just us.

That of course can be seen as a military advantage for the aliens and people who are telling you that could already be aliens preparing for a suprise attack.

Sven
I think they're already here.

tenebra_uk
21-04-2005, 20:01
I've seen them, I've seen them! One is posing as a schoolboy and has a robot who has an obsession for squirrels and poses as a dog :eek:

I'd like to see some evidence FOR God existing please - something that would hold up in court
That's against the essence of religion, which is faith.

I would argue that there are millions of abstract concepts that you couldn't really give evidence for unless you apply a set of conventional parameters - love, truth, evil, intelligence being just a few examples.

Gohan_ssj_flame
22-04-2005, 02:14
Well someone said that there should be at least 100,000,000,000,000 planets with life on them.

That is based on a famous equation that I can't remember the name of. The way it works is if you input certain values you come up with an answer of one, but of course you can come up with any number, since all the values within the equation are variable.

That's against the essence of religion, which is faith.

I would argue that there are millions of abstract concepts that you couldn't really give evidence for unless you apply a set of conventional parameters - love, truth, evil, intelligence being just a few examples.

Very true, you may as well ask 'If a tree falls in the forest, but noone is around to hear it, does it still make a sound?'

A very famous saying, which boggles minds worldwide, which is silly, cause from a scientific standpoint, the vibrations made in the air would carry over a certain distance, dissapating slowly throughout the earth, and so you can take chaos theory at this point, to assume that these minute vibraions, carry to a desert and cause a small breeze in the sand, creating a rustle sound which you consequently hear, since you are sitting there at the time :weirdblue

The point of God, faith and all the other abstract concepts listed by Tenebra, is that all are known simply by being felt, which of course is abstract itself. You can not prove or disprove any of these concepts, such as with the Bible, you can say the Earth is 4 Bilion years old, or 5000 years, which is true? Well if God is so powerful why can't he have simply created an entire evolutionary history for the universe, during those seven days of creation.

The point is it doesn't matter whether it is true or not, it is a matter of personal opinion. Croc does not believe in God, but does believe in an afterlife, what's wrong with that? Buddhists do not worship a god, although they have names for the essence of the universe as a consciousness. But they believe in reincarnation, as the universe itself carries your Karma with it, and after death you are recreated based on the properties of your Karma.

You have various people and cults who believe life was spawned on the Earth by an alien race. Michael Drosnin is one of those, who you may recall is the author of the 'Bible Code' books. He has found various secrets in there, which he believes is referring to asn alien race, and does not believe in God at all, despite the source of this material.

The cults who believe aliens will take our souls to a different dimension, or planet. It seems insane to most people, but no more so than creation to atheists, and evolution to the religious.

Oh great I rambled on far too long there :eek:

GreyFox
22-04-2005, 13:31
he looks like yoda.

pope (http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41052000/jpg/_41052819_ratzinger2_203.jpg)
yoda (http://www.formfunctionemotion.net/mt-static/images/yoda.jpg)

sdack
22-04-2005, 15:07
are you trying to say what i think you are...

that people that say we are alone are infact military tacticians and undercover agents for the alien force?
I have computed it and the possibility is not zero.

WOOO000TTT!!!111

2potscreama
22-04-2005, 15:10
Very true, you may as well ask 'If a tree falls in the forest, but noone is around to hear it, does it still make a sound?'


He swings... and misses.

Gohan_ssj_flame
22-04-2005, 15:30
He swings... and misses.

I'm sorry :cry: :cry: I just wanted an inane statement to make a point, but then my brain went into overdrive and I ended up explaining how did make a sound using chaos theory. Of course Chaos theory itself can't really be proven, since you can also disprove it as well, so I guess in the end, the Paraoxial nature of the question remains in tact :lightbulb

tenebra_uk
22-04-2005, 15:35
I blamed the ungodly time you wrote your post for the inane statement*; the tree falling is the example used for reality actually. :lightbulb

*I never realised inane statements make pints, I wonder where all the gallons of beer I must have produced have gone :eek: Sorry, I couldn't help it! :lolblue:

ssj5gogeta
22-04-2005, 15:35
I'm sorry :cry: :cry: I just wanted an inane statement to make a pint

Bit early for that don't you think :rolleyesa :lolblue:

Edit: I never knew innane statements made pints..sorry I couldn't resist

Apparently neither could I :lolblue:

Unfortunatey you beat me too it.

tenebra_uk
22-04-2005, 15:37
Bit early for that don't you think :rolleyesa :lolblue:
Never too early, as long as you accompany it with food :biggringr I just want to know where my pints are :sour:

ssj5gogeta
22-04-2005, 15:37
Never too early, as long as you accompany it with food :biggringr I just want to know where my pints are :sour:

You've been shortchanged :eek: :lolblue:

Gohan_ssj_flame
22-04-2005, 15:41
I blamed the ungodly time you wrote your post for the inane statement*; the tree falling is the example used for reality actually. :lightbulb

*I never realised inane statements make pints, I wonder where all the gallons of beer I must have produced have gone :eek: Sorry, I couldn't help it! :lolblue:

lol, I guess I should have checked it first, well it's fixed now.

Yeah I did it at an unusual time, but my brain doesn't work on the same plain as my mind :confused:

tenebra_uk
22-04-2005, 15:46
You've been shortchanged :eek: :lolblue:
So, spending my life talking rubbish didn't even produce half a pint? :eekblue: I feel wronged. Life's unfair :sour:

Gohan_ssj_flame
22-04-2005, 15:47
So, spending my life talking rubbish didn't even produce half a pint? :eekblue: I feel wronged. Life's unfair :sour:

Well you could always get a job at a brewery, that would sort you out for life :p:

ssj5gogeta
22-04-2005, 15:50
Well you could always get a job at a brewery, that would sort you out for life :p:

Yes but that involves work of some description, besides as Tenbra has pointed out she is currently owed a life time supply of alchohol :lolblue:

Gohan_ssj_flame
22-04-2005, 15:52
Yes but that involves work of some description, besides as Tenbra has pointed out she is currently owed a life time supply of alchohol :lolblue:

Well Tenebra should go out and cut some trees down then, but only when she's not around to hear them fall :lolblue:

Warspite
22-04-2005, 15:55
There is a cloud of alcohol 4 light years across in the saggitarius B2 galaxy.

Thats only 26,000 light years away, which is closer than some pubs I've crawled home from :confusedb

ssj5gogeta
22-04-2005, 15:57
There is a cloud of alcohol 4 light years across in the saggitarius B2 galaxy.

Thats only 26,000 light years away, which is closer than some pubs I've crawled home from :confusedb

I'm there :tonguegre

tenebra_uk
22-04-2005, 15:58
I already have my job(s). I've just discovered that each inane statement produces a pint. I don't recall having articulated more than one, maybe two almost sensible sentences a week for at least the past 20 years. I'm owed enough beer to set up a 4-day Tenebra Fest (to be held in July rather than Oktober) for millions of people :bounce:

Gohan_ssj_flame
22-04-2005, 15:58
There is a cloud of alcohol 4 light years across in the saggitarius B2 galaxy.

Thats only 26,000 light years away, which is closer than some pubs I've crawled home from :confusedb

lol, I see your wisdom expands over many fields, so tell me the meaning of life oh wise one :bored:

ssj5gogeta
22-04-2005, 16:00
lol, I see your wisdom expands over many fields, so tell me the meaning of life oh wise one :bored:

42.

How on earth did a discussion about the German Pope digress onto Tenebra's lack of Alchohol received for inane comments :confused: :lolblue:

Gohan_ssj_flame
22-04-2005, 16:01
42.

How on earth did a discussion about the German Pope digress onto Tenebra's lack of Alchohol received for inane comments :confused: :lolblue:

lol, I have no idea.

But I'll be at the TenebraFest :D Just tell me when you figure out how to get those pints owed :yum:

tenebra_uk
22-04-2005, 16:02
Well Tenebra should go out and cut some trees down then, but only when she's not around to hear them fall :lolblue:
I'll cut trees and listen to the sound of the sizzling sausages falling* (here we go, and no pint has appeared yet :sour: )

*"Take about the sizzle, not the sausages" is the rule #1 in marketing poor people like me has to hear far too many times to be worth counting :lightbulb

ssj5gogeta
22-04-2005, 16:04
I'll cut trees and listen to the sound of the sizzling sausages falling* (here we go, and no pint has appeared yet :sour: )

*"Take about the sizzle, not the sausages" is the rule #1 in marketing poor people like me has to hear far too many times to be worth counting :lightbulb

Maybe the "pint giver" ,who or whatever it is, is taking a day off. I'd sue :)

Gohan_ssj_flame
22-04-2005, 16:04
I'll cut trees and listen to the sound of the sizzling sausages falling* (here we go, and no pint has appeared yet :sour: )

*"Take about the sizzle, not the sausages" is the rule #1 in marketing poor people like me has to hear far too many times to be worth counting :lightbulb

Sorry, add one to the flame was wrong counter *ping* :lolblue:

tenebra_uk
22-04-2005, 16:05
42.
How on earth did a discussion about the German Pope digress onto Tenebra's lack of Alchohol received for inane comments :confused: :lolblue:
It's called subliminal learning. We are the Masters of Thread Hijacking. Welcome to the forum, you now really deserve the off-topic badge :biggringr

Gohan_ssj_flame
22-04-2005, 16:10
It's called subliminal learning. We are the Masters of Thread Hijacking. Welcome to the forum, you now really deserve the off-topic badge :biggringr

Wow, congrats ssj5gogeta, I'm still waiting for mine. Must be getting delievered by the guy with the alcohol :lolblue:

ssj5gogeta
22-04-2005, 16:12
It's called subliminal learning. We are the Masters of Thread Hijacking. Welcome to the forum, you now really deserve the off-topic badge :biggringr

I need an in-depth description of what this badge looks like :biggringr :lolblue:

tenebra_uk
22-04-2005, 16:17
Wow, congrats ssj5gogeta, I'm still waiting for mine. Must be getting delievered by the guy with the alcohol :lolblue:
No, you get it in exchange for a pint :biggringr One design but several trendy colours to chose from - pure black, almost black, pitch black, tar black.

Now, if I get sacked I'll hold you all responsible. I already woke up in my vicious feline mood (Spitey, can you throw that rubber ball again, please? :biggringr ) and now I'm hyper, music at full blast in my ears, talking rubbish, thinking about beer and organising the pub crew for tonight when I should be working. All your fault, I'm easily excitable :weirdblue

ssj5gogeta
22-04-2005, 16:19
No, you get it in exchange for a pint :biggringr One design but several trendy colours to chose from - pure black, almost black, pitch black, tar black.

Now, if I get sacked I'll hold you all responsible. I already woke up in my vicious feline mood (Spitey, can you throw that rubber ball again, please? :biggringr ) and now I'm hyper, music at full blast in my ears, talking rubbish, thinking about beer and organising the pub crew for tonight when I should be working. All your fault, I'm easily excitable :weirdblue

Oh well it's my aim in life to disrupt that of others :biggringr

Oh and I beleive that Tar Black would suit my Coal black T-Shirt best :lolblue:

Gohan_ssj_flame
22-04-2005, 16:19
No, you get it in exchange for a pint :biggringr One design but several trendy colours to chose from - pure black, almost black, pitch black, tar black.

Now, if I get sacked I'll hold you all responsible. I already woke up in my vicious feline mood (Spitey, can you throw that rubber ball again, please? :biggringr ) and now I'm hyper, music at full blast in my ears, talking rubbish, thinking about beer and organising the pub crew for tonight when I should be working. All your fault, I'm easily excitable :weirdblue

Well organising a pub crawl is a worthy passtime, I'll leave your pint at your local, and I'll take a ...black black, with black :tup:

tenebra_uk
22-04-2005, 16:25
I need an in-depth description of what this badge looks like :biggringr :lolblue:
I can do better than that.

ssj5gogeta
22-04-2005, 16:27
I can do better than that.

Hell I may even put that in my signature :lolblue: But isn't that Dark Black not Tar Black :lightbulb :lolblue:

Gohan_ssj_flame
22-04-2005, 16:28
Hell I may even put that in my signature :lolblue: But isn't that Dark Black not Tar Black :lightbulb :lolblue:

and what about the black black for the background. I saw a T-shirt recently, that was black with black writing 'I'm only wearing black, until something darker comes along'

tenebra_uk
22-04-2005, 16:37
Hell I may even put that in my signature :lolblue: But isn't that Dark Black not Tar Black :lightbulb :lolblue:
You'll have to wait for me to get home and have a few minutes to spare for that. Wear it with pride :biggringr

I saw a T-shirt recently, that was black with black writing 'I'm only wearing black, until something darker comes along'
My favorite t-shirt is still my "Just smile and say 'Yes, Mistress'" :biggringr

ssj5gogeta
22-04-2005, 16:39
You'll have to wait for me to get home and have a few minutes to spare for that. Wear it with pride :biggringr


My favorite t-shirt is still my "Just smile and say 'Yes, Mistress'" :biggringr

lol. Oh and what do you think. It looks good on me :biggringr

Gohan_ssj_flame
22-04-2005, 16:41
You'll have to wait for me to get home and have a few minutes to spare for that. Wear it with pride :biggringr


My favorite t-shirt is still my "Just smile and say 'Yes, Mistress'" :biggringr

oooKay :confused: More than I needed to know :lolblue:

Well I guess I'll back off slowly, and wear my 'The voices were talking to me, but it was fashionable'

tenebra_uk
22-04-2005, 16:44
lol. Oh and what do you think. It looks good on me :biggringr
:tup: :biggringr

oooKay More than I needed to know
It's a completely innocent t-shirt, which I usually wear when I have a team working for me. Just in case they forget who's the boss :biggringr


Note to Fluxxy: See, we'll have to start talking again about the "I'm a humanoid creepture" tees and the sledgie badges :lolblue:

Gohan_ssj_flame
22-04-2005, 16:51
:tup: :biggringr


It's a completely innocent t-shirt, which I usually wear when I have a team working for me. Just in case they forget who's the boss :biggringr


Note to Fluxxy: See, we'll have to start talking again about the "I'm a humanoid creepture" tees and the sledgie badges :lolblue:

Well I'm sure they are all scared of you without it :cry:

Especially carrying around that sledgie all the time :eekblue:

Crocodile
22-04-2005, 17:32
I'm sorry :cry: :cry: I just wanted an inane statement to make a point, but then my brain went into overdrive and I ended up explaining how did make a sound using chaos theory. Of course Chaos theory itself can't really be proven, since you can also disprove it as well, so I guess in the end, the Paraoxial nature of the question remains in tact :lightbulb
I know chaos theory

Tommy Gun
22-04-2005, 17:50
@tenebras beer fest 2005: i'm there ;)

this summer, is the 500 unit challenge anyway :tup:

over the 6 weeks of summer, 500 units need to be consumed...thats equivelent of 4.25 pints of 5% per day. or considering i am spending the first 2 weeks cylcing, thats 6.4pints of 5% per day :(

sdack
23-04-2005, 16:07
There is a cloud of alcohol 4 light years across in the saggitarius B2 galaxy.

Thats only 26,000 light years away, which is closer than some pubs I've crawled home from :confusedb
Sgr B2 is within our galaxy, right at the center of it. Does not have a galaxy on its own. Sounds like you were 'outside' the time you made that statement.

Sven

Gohan_ssj_flame
23-04-2005, 17:36
Sgr B2 is within our galaxy, right at the center of it. Does not have a galaxy on its own. Sounds like you were 'outside' the time you made that statement.

Sven

Well I believe he meant the direction of the alcohol cloud, wasaround the atrea of the B2 galaxy, which itself is in the area of sagitarious, within a 2 dimensional perspective, hence this is how most galaxy's actually recieve their designation.

sdack
23-04-2005, 20:04
Well I believe he meant the direction of the alcohol cloud, wasaround the atrea of the B2 galaxy, which itself is in the area of sagitarious, within a 2 dimensional perspective, hence this is how most galaxy's actually recieve their designation.
Well, he then has to hurry since Sgr A is the black hole right at the centre of our milky way, and just next to Sgr B2. I guess that sucks.

Sven

EDIT:
I am unemployed and would like to work in England for a while. I am a software engineer and if anyone knows a good place to look for a job, I would appreciate to hear about it ...

Warspite
25-04-2005, 15:37
Oops -Sven was right, I was outside at the time, looking at the galaxy from a cheap restaurant several billion light years off. Sorry. :lightbulb

Sdack - Programmers are easy to employ.Get the DFDS ferry service to Newcastle(it stops near my house! :D ) and get yourself a job.

Try these for size -

JOBS (http://www.sector1.net)

or this one (http://www.jobs.ac.uk/sector/computing/)

or even THIS (http://www.workthing.com/category_search.cgi?cat=23) :tup:

tenebra_uk
25-04-2005, 15:42
I am unemployed and would like to work in England for a while. I am a software engineer and if anyone knows a good place to look for a job, I would appreciate to hear about it ...
If I hated you I'd suggest that you sent your cv to the company I work for to watch you age 20 years in 3 days. That's what happened to Clumpstar, he's only 30 but looks 82 :( (if he reads this I'm mince for meatballs :biggringr )

2oo5
25-04-2005, 16:35
If I hated you I'd suggest that you sent your cv to the company I work for to watch you age 20 years in 3 days. That's what happened to Clumpstar, he's only 30 but looks 82 :( (if he reads this I'm mince for meatballs :biggringr )

This of course, is the correct answer
lolz

gohan ssj4_uk
25-04-2005, 21:15
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