"Failed to create Direct3D device"

[Devilz_wishbone]

Currently running windows XP Professional
Direct X 9C
Integrated Grpahics Card - SIS 741GX

741 GX
http://www.sis.com/products/sis741gx_features.htm
http://www.sis.com/products/sis741gx_benefits.htm

Motherboard Deatails (Chipset purchased from microdirect)
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=7586&GroupID=4

Product Description ASRock K7S41GX - mainboard - micro ATX - SiS741GX
Product Type Mainboard
Form Factor Micro ATX
Dimensions (WxDxH) 24.4 cm x 19.8 cm
Chipset Type SiS741GX
Max Bus Speed 333 MHz
Processor 0 ( 1 ) - Socket A
Compatible Processors Duron, Athlon XP
RAM 0 MB (installed) / 2 GB (max)
Supported RAM Technology DDR SDRAM
Storage Controller ATA-133
Graphics Controller Shared Video Memory (UMA)
Audio Output Sound card - SiS963L - 5.1 channel surround
Networking Network adapter Ethernet, Fast Ethernet
Stockcode MOTASRK7S41GX
Manufacturer Asrock
Manufacturer Code K7S41GX

Memory Running
512DDR 333Mhz
Processor AMD Athlon 1.1 (100Mhz)
40GB Hard Drive
52x CD Rom

Error received when running Roller Coaster Tycoon 3
"Failed to create Direct3D device
This error has alse been sent to debug.log
Ok: <Attempt to continue> Cancel: <Exit>"

When clicking Ok

RCT3.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience"

Debug
Send Error Report
Dont Send

Error Signiture
Offset: 004be830

When clicking Debug
On Debug (C++)
008BE830 mov edx,dword ptr [eax]


Have removed screenshots and thank you for all the support people


The AGP was enabled and still no joy
The Bios is at over 125 MB shared memory

Can any body assist me to get this great game working
Hopefully I do not have to result to purchasing a graphics card as all the information under minimum requirements meets my PC spec

[Fluxx]

Hopefully I do not have to result to purchasing a graphics card as all the information under minimum requirements meets my PC spec


Sorry to tell you this, but its your graphics card thats the problem................it cant do hardware transform and lighting............and RCT3 needs it to run......... :noooo:

[Devilz_wishbone]

MMMmmmm
I wonder how it would perform with this baby for a graphics card

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/images/normal/videocards/nvidia/vidasu6800u.jpg


Asus GF EN6800 ultra 512MB PCI-E +DVI +TV-out second VGA DDR3 Retail.

ASUS Extreme N6800Ultra Limited Edition equips with newest nVidia®’s GeForce 6800Ultra GPU, which owns both ultimate excellent cinematic resolution and fierce graphics computing power. While other manufacturers simply rest on the laurels of the reference design, ASUS incorporates innovative features to boost performance, functionality and value.

ASUS Extreme N6800Ultra is positioned on the enthusiast segment and has the most complete solution for 3D gaming and video application.

ASUS Features: SLI Multi-GPU ready: Dramatically scales performance by allowing two graphics cards to run in parallel.
ASUS GameFace™ Live: The World's first multiplayer audio and video chatting solution for PC games. It enables simultaneous connection up to 8 players.
ASUS Video Security™ Online: Whether you're online or not, ASUS VideoSecurity Online provides you a flexible and economical security system. It can easily turn your computer into your own security server.
High quality webcam bundled: USB camera with 300K resolution lets users enjoy GameFaceLive or Video SecurityOnline right out of the box. (Optional)
The Hottest 3D Game Bundled: Joint Operation
Diversified displays connectivity (Dual DVI, Dual VGA, DVI+VGA, DVI+TV-out)
High-quality TV output for big screen gaming or presentations


Graphics Chip Key Features: Superscalar GPU architecture – Delivers up to 8x the shading power of previous generation products for sreaming gaming performance.
NVIDIA® CineFX™ 3.0 engine – Full support for Microsoft DirectX9.0 Shader model 3.0 enables stunning and complex special effects
High-Speed GDDR3 memory interface
NVIDIA UltraShadow™ II technology –Enhances the performance of bleeding-edge games
NVIDIA High-Precision Dynamic-Range (HPDR) technology –NVIDIA HPDR sets new standards for image clarity and quality through floating point capabilities in shading, filtering, texturing, and blending.
NVIDIA® Intellisample™ 3.0 technology
The industry's fastest antialiasing delivers ultra-realistic visuals, with no jagged edges, at lightning-fast speeds


Shame it costs £515.71 ($949.99)

[Devilz_wishbone]

Question tho?

Why does RCT3 need a non integrated Graphics card when games such as GTA3 and San Andreas can be played perfectly with a SiS chipset?

Which has the same kind or rendering on the graphics

Hopefully this isnt another ATARI let down :-( as the Game it self looks good and a lot of work gone into it :S

[Fluxx]

Many newer PC games need hardware T+L.............the SIS chipset just wont hack it.

GTA and San Andreas are really just PS2 ports (dont shoot me :) )


Take Battlefield 2................it needs hardware T+L and pixel shader 1.4 support...........but it looks better than any PS2 game..... 10sur10

[foxler]

Will ati x700 do for playing ract3?
ive got a sis card to en ive got the same problem so i gonna instal ati x700,
normaly it should be no problem i think.

sorry for my bad english

grts foxler

[rcs2k4]

Will ati x700 do for playing ract3?
ive got a sis card to en ive got the same problem so i gonna instal ati x700,
normaly it should be no problem i think.

sorry for my bad english

grts foxler

Radeon X700 will play RCT, you just wont be able to have all the options turned up. An X800 XT is under £180 now. This would be a better choice, esp as then the X800XT come out, it cost £450...

[foxler]

i see but ive orderd my card last week eekblue:
but i think i will be able to play with that card for altleast a year
next year i will buy a new one

thx anyway

[Stumpus]

These 'features' on your motherboard are useless and inhibit any form of gameplay;
Audio Output Sound card - SiS963L - 5.1 channel surround (any onboard sound is as much use as a chocolate fireguard (apart from the nForce2 SoundStorm APU which was the best made) the rest will murder gameplay and choke the CPU)
Processor 0 ( 1 ) - Socket A (it's well and truly obsolete -you will find only CPUs on ebay now -and you don't want to buy there!)


I'm running RCT3 on a GeForce 7800GT 256mb (factory overclocked) which cost £230 (£240 now) lifetime warranty http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/7800__Series.html

The likes of Oblivion and Unreal Tournament 7 will benefit from a modern DX9 cards features -Oblivion will have Pixel Shader3 support which the 7800GT supports. It will also outperform 2 GeForce 6800s in SLI mode.

The price of a PCI-E motherboard is just over £50, but you do need a high performance PSU as the amperage required by a PCI-E graphics card must be very stable.
Failure to even boot or random lockups/restarts being the order of the day!
You will also need new RAM, but it's soo cheap from Crucial and you can run it in Dual-channel mode.
An AMD Athlon64 CPU can be had for around £100 also.
With PCI-E it's the current future, AGP is dead and not worth the money since it's ironicaly more expensive than PCI-E cards yet is only 1/4 the potential speed!!

[rcs2k4]

With PCI-E it's the current future, AGP is dead and not worth the money since it's ironicaly more expensive than PCI-E cards yet is only 1/4 the potential speed!!
You Really should not have said that... You sound like the loon in Pc World for **** sake... Let me explain...

Stumpus, you tend to create a very negative view of the PC industry, and assume that everyone and their uncle can afford the move over to a PCI-E system. It is an expensive move to take...

Many people in the world like myself still have AGP, and as such, built up pretty fast systems that just 6-8 months ago, were top of their class... I hardly think that these systems will suddenly be much worse off, just because PCI-E has arrived. Upgrade options are limited, but performance levels on AGP are still excellent.

How much of a better system would you be able to build over a top spec AGP based system if your spending £100 on a CPU, £50 on a motherboard and buying cheap RAM? I would say it wouldnt be very fast...

My CPU is on the "old" socket 478 interface, still, it runs @ 3.0 Ghz with 1MB cache. The Intel LGA755 CPU's are essentially the same as the older 478 processors (im talking about single core one's here btw), just with a new interface and slightly faster core speeds. My CPU set me back £280 not to long ago, and I bet it will easily outclass any new CPU in the £100 region.

The same with graphics, just before Nvidia and ATI decided to stop producing the high end cards onto AGP, I purchased the fastest AGP card avaliable, the ATI Radeon X850XT PE. Now, lets look as this, we have 540Mhz core, 1.2 Ghz GDDR3 RAM, 16 pixel pipes and 8 vertex shaders... Recent tests on www.techreport.com place this "old" card ahead of a GeForce 7800 (not GT or GTX) in many of the benchmarks, despite the fact that it's matched up to an "old" CPU and Motherboard... This particular card was £350 new, and you will have to buy something pretty pricey to beat it's performance...

Motherboards too, again, I purchased a pretty decent Abit board, to go with a top spec CPu and graphics card... It has never let me down. It's fast efficient, and was one of the last, and fastest, AGP based boards... Cost £100, would proberly have to spend the same or more than before to buy a decent PCI-E board...

And never buy cheap RAM if you use your PC for games. It's a big no no. Premium brands serve you well, unfortunatly, the RAM used on AGP mobo's for Intel CPU's will not work if you upgrade to PCI-E based Intel mobo. You'll need to buy DDR-2, stupidly expensive, and offers very little performance boost over PC3200 RAM in Dual channel mode...

So, AGP systems are not dead, or a performance bottleneck... Most will still be good for the next 12-18 months, and then consider upgrading... Hopefully by then, the prices on this new PCI-E stuff will have come down enough to make it attractive... I threw over £1500 into my Pc, and 8 months ago, it was top of it's game. I for one want to get my money's worth from it... It's just not as simple to upgrade my graphics card anymore... Doing so would result in a new CPU, RAM, Mobo, Graphics Card (Obviousley) and PSU. Before you know it, I would have spent £1000 building a system thats only as fast as the one I already have... £1800+ is whats needed to make a truly top spec PCI-E system these days, and for most users that price is just to high... Especially when you have to chuck out most of your stuff from your old PC, as it is no longer compatiable...

You have made a valid point about soundcards tho. I dont condone anyone using on-board audio, it's just rubbish... All those other AGP ppl out there feeling the pinch from PCI-E, invest in a good old SoundBlaster Audigy 2, £50 from many online retailers, and will see you right for many years :)

Also, please don't take this the wrong way, im not "having a go" as such, but do feel that everyone suddenly assumes that AGP is a lost cause... New technology might be more attractive in the future, when it is widely supported, and games take advantage of the new technology...

[Stumpus]

You Really should not have said that... You sound like the loon in Pc World for **** sake... Let me explain...

Stumpus, you tend to create a very negative view of the PC industry, and assume that everyone and their uncle can afford the move over to a PCI-E system. It is an expensive move to take...


You see in my eyes you sound *exactly* like the loon in PCWorld/Dixons trying to flog an end-of-line celeron AGP system, saying that it will play all future games...

Ok let me explain -since i've made the move to PCI-E from AGP at Xmas and you haven't- i don't know where you've done your PCI sums but they are pretty wrong.

My old system:
Q-Tec 450W PSU
AMD Athlon XP2800+ Barton
2x512 mb Crucial Ballistix DDR400 Cas2
ASUS nForce 2 A7N8X Deluxe
Radeon 9800 Pro
Onboard nVidia SoundStorm APU 5.1

Present system:
TAGAN 480W easy-con PSU (my personal choice but Maplin for eg do a PSU for P4 AMD Athlon 64/FX for £34.99 hardly expensive?)

AMD Athlon64 3500+ (Athlon64 3200 retail inc HS&F for £114 at dabs)

ASUS A8N-E nForce 4 ultra (£66 at dabs) standard ATX size.

2x512 mb Crucial Ballistix DDR400 performance Cas2 (well didn't cost me a thing because i had done my research, with AMD64 systems you can take your RAM with you; result 333MHz running at 400MHz now at no cost) Even if you DO buy new RAM, it's the SAME price whether it's for a present AGP system or PCI-E. A no-lose scenario.

BFG GeForce 7800 256mb PCI (£240) Absolutely NO contest with AGP -as i said- except that the **LIMITED** manufacturers that still do AGP sell them more expensively that PCI :gaga: only thing to watch out for is length of card which can be quite long. If you have a tower case then no problem.

saving from not having to buy RAM i bought Sound Blaster Audigy 2ZS. (£60)

I'm also on broadband so the mobo comes with Dual LAN, just plug 'n' play -drivers are all in one for the board.

So as you can see it's not expensive at all? Certainly not more than upgrading a present AGP system! -which is my case that i put to Devilz; if your paying to upgrade a poor system then jump AGP and get PCI-E for the same price but with unparalled performance

People throw their arms in the air and panic, assume that it MUST be more expensive and start throwing silly assumptions around without having sat down and done some homework.




How much of a better system would you be able to build over a top spec AGP based system if your spending £100 on a CPU, £50 on a motherboard and buying cheap RAM? I would say it wouldnt be very fast...


Check the prices above? for a tad more it leaves a top spec AGP trailing like a fat squirrel stuck in a drainpipe!


The same with graphics, just before Nvidia and ATI decided to stop producing the high end cards onto AGP, I purchased the fastest AGP card avaliable, the ATI Radeon X850XT PE. Now, lets look as this, we have 540Mhz core, 1.2 Ghz GDDR3 RAM, 16 pixel pipes and 8 vertex shaders... Recent tests on www.techreport.com place this "old" card ahead of a GeForce 7800 (not GT or GTX) in many of the benchmarks, despite the fact that it's matched up to an "old" CPU and Motherboard... This particular card was £350 new, and you will have to buy something pretty pricey to beat it's performance...


£240 for a 256mb GeForce 7800GT PCI-E factory overclocked...it beats 2 6800GTs SLI in all but crazy resolutions! But regardless, it would be illogical to buy 2 6800GTs for an increase of around 10fps or so over a 7800GT!!

What's even better with PCI-E cards is that i have a AMD64 3500 CPU and it (the 7800GT) will get faster as i upgrade the CPU. That's how much a bottleneck a CPU is with PCI systems.
Also the ASUS http://uk.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=15&l3=171&model=455&modelmenu=1 (£66) board i have will take ALL Socket 939 Athlon 64FX/Athlon 64 X2/Athlon 64
CPUs right up to the 64x2 4800 dual core FX -i've never owned a board in 10 years of building that supported a *released* list of CPUs as comprehensive as that.
http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=A8N-E Again a *MASSIVE* long term money saver.


So, AGP systems are not dead, or a performance bottleneck... Most will still be good for the next 12-18 months, and then consider upgrading... Hopefully by then, the prices on this new PCI-E stuff will have come down enough to make it attractive... I threw over £1500 into my Pc, and 8 months ago, it was top of it's game. I for one want to get my money's worth from it... It's just not as simple to upgrade my graphics card anymore... Doing so would result in a new CPU, RAM, Mobo, Graphics Card (Obviousley) and PSU. Before you know it, I would have spent £1000 building a system thats only as fast as the one I already have... £1800+ is whats needed to make a truly top spec PCI-E system these days, and for most users that price is just to high... Especially when you have to chuck out most of your stuff from your old PC, as it is no longer compatiable...

You have made a valid point about soundcards tho. I dont condone anyone using on-board audio, it's just rubbish... All those other AGP ppl out there feeling the pinch from PCI-E, invest in a good old SoundBlaster Audigy 2, £50 from many online retailers, and will see you right for many years :)

Also, please don't take this the wrong way, im not "having a go" as such, but do feel that everyone suddenly assumes that AGP is a lost cause... New technology might be more attractive in the future, when it is widely supported, and games take advantage of the new technology

...


I understand your negativity, when you spend a lot of money on a PC and literaly the next day it's out of date and prices of components have dropped. It's very frustrating!

I was all for going console when i heard about the dreaded 'PCI-E'. All this 'you need new RAM, new PSU' etc i freaked out! i had just bought my second nForce 2 board and it's CPU support was obsolete overnight. The AthlonFX was gone, AMD stopped making them and moved onto the AMD64 (my board supported up to the 3200+)

So you see i've been there got the t-shirt.
I spent about 3weeks researching in my spare time (no hurry) about how much PCI-E was going to cost over AGP and i was left shaking my head at my OWN negativity. As you can see, these are *HARD* figures i have given you. PCI-E costs ***NOTHING*** more than AGP.

There's no excuse if you want to upgrade now.

Stumpus, you tend to create a very negative view of the PC industry, and assume that everyone and their uncle can afford the move over to a PCI-E system. It is an expensive move to take...

PS Don't you go falsly scaring people into thinking that you have to sell the house to go PCI-E also ;)


Cheers

[Littlewoz]

Hello there.
I had the same problem. And yes it was the graphics card.
I picked up a perfelty good Radeon forgot the number of it.
But it does the Job perfectly And it was only £30 !!
It was on a deal. So you dont need to spend tones of money. Just look around for the new deals !!