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Fearless
21-10-2005, 08:48
Lets try and keep all opinions you have on the game into 1 thread, this thread, just to prevent SPAM and its easier for everyone to share their comments on the game. :respect:
Goku 1226
21-10-2005, 11:37
Well for everyone who has the game please can you tell me your opinions of who is the better character as:
1rst best-
2cnd best-
3rd best-
and Runner up(as in 4th best)-
and for those who don't have the game you can guess as your own opinion as:
1rst best-
2cnd best-
and 3rd best-
and please try to give reasons for your choices.
well for example my opinions are:
1rst best-Super 17-for his exellent ki attack absorbtion technique.And his 50 hit finishing move.Eqiped with Hi-Tension is unstopable wín ki attacks.
2cnd best-ssj2 Teen Gohan-for perfect speed anbd teleportation speed,and equiped with 3x ki control and speed at max is almost unbeatable against any come under average level.
3rd best-Kid buu-for exellent speed,finishing move power,and great combos and of course his istant transmission technique.
runner up-Burter-equiped as max speed is the fastest character out of all 90.
Favorate character-ssj4 Gogeta-The best character I play with and doesnot need any equipment capsules to raise the amoutn of capsules that you want to use.
what are your opinions?
S.S.4 Vegeta
21-10-2005, 12:55
the game only has one fatal floor, and its the same one every one is on about, NO IN GAME TRANSES!!! it completely ruins it,
1st.SSJ-4 Vegeta (obviously)
2nd. Super saiyan 4 fusion (his level of ssj and name was never stated)
3rd. SSJ-4 Goku (so fun being him)
4th. Super Trunks (LSSJ version, i just love trunks, always have, like the son i never had XD)
Runner-up. Mystic Gohan (hes really good just doesnt have to power to keep up but with enough skill still pwns all)
:respect:
SSJ Flipip
21-10-2005, 17:07
I thought it's pretty good, I hate the combo's that the computer does to me, but after about 10 minutes of them doing the same thing over and over that does about .10% damage, I just spirit bomb them. rolleyesa
I LOVE Z Evolution, my Trunks is basically invincible now. ^_^
The controls were so hard to get used to in the first hour or two, I couldn't even kill a Saibaman with Tien at first -_-.
Broly Z Gate was pretty hard at first, I killed him in the end. I can't believe it was only 1 fight though :\.
Coolers was really strange for me, he flew away from me and got stuck behind this tree weirdblue . It took me like 4 Spirit Bombs for him to die. :mefiant:
I'm going to complete the Z Gate before I start any of this Fusion business, either so, good game.
Goku 1226
21-10-2005, 17:17
I thought it's pretty good, I hate the combo's that the computer does to me, but after about 10 minutes of them doing the same thing over and over that does about .10% damage, I just spirit bomb them. rolleyesa
I LOVE Z Evolution, my Trunks is basically invincible now. ^_^
The controls were so hard to get used to in the first hour or two, I couldn't even kill a Saibaman with Tien at first -_-.
Broly Z Gate was pretty hard at first, I killed him in the end. I can't believe it was only 1 fight though :\.
Coolers was really strange for me, he flew away from me and got stuck behind this tree weirdblue . It took me like 4 Spirit Bombs for him to die. :mefiant:
I'm going to complete the Z Gate before I start any of this Fusion business, either so, good game.Hey I beat brolli the first time lol i was just luck i kept firing kamehamehs runnign away and charging and firing kamehamehas...i was at orange health and 1 ki blast to K.O I ran away ASAP and fired super kamehameha and killed him.Pure fluke.Yeah and at first cooler whooped me *** all over the place (cus O had a bad capsule set up and no good ones at the mo.) so i beat all the other z-gates 100% instead then got new and better caps equiped them on goku and at the end I took cooler out with spirit bombs and yeah wierd I did 3 spirit bomvbs in the battle and he was not even on orange life. :laugh: :mefiant: eekblue:
and yeah the controls were pretty hard even custom made.and the saibemen whiped me as yamcha and krillin out like 2 times but then thats where tutorial and attack and finishing move capsules come in. mdr1 adn then I finally beat the littlegreen irratants. :chapeau: lolblue: And I already beat z-battle gate mode 100%
p.s hey flipip in what difficulty are you playing in?
Fearless
21-10-2005, 18:21
Well I just got the game, but to be honest it is a bit disappointing, it's not all cracked up to what it's supposed to be in my opinion.
Goku 1226
21-10-2005, 18:44
Well I just got the game, but to be honest it is a bit disappointing, it's not all cracked up to what it's supposed to be in my opinion.
so your saying it sucks
Lets try and keep the opinions (good and bad) in here please....... :respect:
Fearless
21-10-2005, 18:53
so your saying it sucks
No I'm not saying it sucks, it's a good game, just not as good as I hoped it would be.
I have not got Tenkaichi, yet im getting it on saturday. but these are my fave caricters, some i know from Budokai 3.
1. Vegeta ( His moves are powerful his ssj4 form owns, and hes not slow )
2. Cell ( Powerfull moves has got a bit range of special atacks he isnt too slow but unfortunatly is a little too tall )
3.Kid buu ( Kid buu is fast and has great defence a great mix of skills )
and a runner up is... Gogeta ( SUPER POWERFUL!!, HIS special takes away 2 bars )
Super #17
21-10-2005, 19:47
How have you guys got so far already I haven't even done every bettle in SS yet eekblue:
1st Piccolo: I like his Hellzone grenade and he is suited to my style of combat.
2nd Vegeta: Overall powerful and has a nice explosion move which gets me out of sticky suituations.
3rd (Dont know yet, got it a dew hours ago)
Goku 1226
21-10-2005, 20:55
1st Piccolo: I like his Hellzone grenade and he is suited to my style of combat.
2nd Vegeta: Overall powerful and has a nice explosion move which gets me out of sticky suituations.
3rd (Dont know yet, got it a dew hours ago)
cool you got tenkaichi too stemak? wheer are you in z-battle gate mode?
Lets try and keep all opinions you have on the game into 1 thread, this thread, just to prevent SPAM and its easier for everyone to share their comments on the game. :respect:
I'm finfing it hard as hell lol. but I can't wait to complete all 18 sagas
cool you got tenkaichi too stemak? wheer are you in z-battle gate mode?
I'm just at the Namekian saga, 3% done i think. And u?
:laugh: I've only done 35% of the saiyan saga can't wait to complete. "I'm so excited" as goku says :laugh:
:laugh: I've only done 35% of the saiyan saga can't wait to complete. "I'm so excited" as goku says :laugh:
Lol, i dont know what swift attacks are, so i just use Ultimate moves all the time. :mefiant:
Lol, i dont know what swift attacks are, so i just use Ultimate moves all the time. :mefiant:
Yer. If you do swift attk does that make a difference can someone tell us what they are. Also I was so happy fighting Great Ape in the saiyan saga
SSJ Flipip
21-10-2005, 21:23
I have like 5 more Battlegates to unlock.
It's not Baby.
It's not the one with Cell vs Super 17.
It's not the one with Buu vs Janemba o.O
It's not the one with Bojack.
Aaaand a few more I can't remember -_-
How do you complete it so fast o.O
It's really stupid, I can't even do the level when you have to stay alive for 60 seconds against Vegeta Oozaru. madred:
I have like 5 more Battlegates to unlock.
It's not Baby.
It's not the one with Cell vs Super 17.
It's not the one with Buu vs Janemba o.O
It's not the one with Bojack.
Aaaand a few more I can't remember -_-
How do you complete it so fast o.O
It's really stupid, I can't even do the level when you have to stay alive for 60 seconds against Vegeta Oozaru. madred:
So you've unlocked all that in one day :mefiant: eekblue:
Yer. If you do swift attk does that make a difference can someone tell us what they are. Also I was so happy fighting Great Ape in the saiyan saga
Yeah me too, Vegeta's one is very hard.
have you completed the whole of it. I hate little chiatzu I can't beat him lol. How do you unlock hin by the way. Do you have to do swift attks?
have you completed the whole of it. I hate little chiatzu I can't beat him lol. How do you unlock hin by the way. Do you have to do swift attks?
No im stuck at that stage with Vegeta, i defeated him using Ultimate moves, if u fly under them they can't it u with Ki attacks. :laugh:
No im stuck at that stage with Vegeta, i defeated him using Ultimate moves, if u fly under them they can't it u with Ki attacks. :laugh:
Stemako at least you got that far compared to me lol.
Stemako at least you got that far compared to me lol.
He was annoying, does he fly away and bombard you with Ki blasts?
SSJ Flipip
21-10-2005, 21:42
Android 18 does that to me, evil girl.
I love Trunks's battlegate, it was so fun owning the androids and Cell with his awesomeness power :D
He was annoying, does he fly away and bombard you with Ki blasts?
Ye so i have to keep caching him. :atari: can u plz trade him for a better character plz :respect:
James_Han
21-10-2005, 22:07
Love the game hands down.
It looks like a realy realy long game coz theres tons to do in each sagas.
and in the Z-Gates theres the 4 main sagas and some other gates that you
can go into, which looks like movie gates maybe!.
The fighting style is realy good but the game is hard!.
Ive done one battle in Ultimate Z Battle
and ive got Vegeta with Scoter by fusiong 2 potara ear-rings
Over all score 10sur10
Wished they changed the music, and some characters look too serious, e.g. Krillin. He never smiles, even when he says something light hearted. He's freeking me out!
Wished they changed the music, and some characters look too serious, e.g. Krillin. He never smiles, even when he says something light hearted. He's freeking me out!
Lol
there is some new music though isn't there. I never really noticed the krillen thing. Ps did anone see the dbz movie today can you use both forms of bojack
Lol
there is some new music though isn't there. I never really noticed the krillen thing. Ps did anone see the dbz movie today can you use both forms of bojack
Yeah a little, and i saw the movie b4 its my fav.
Yeah a little, and i saw the movie b4 its my fav.
The movie 1000% perfection. The bit with Gok uand Vegeta nodding there head as they fight is funny
clone_number_8_uk
22-10-2005, 00:34
Wished they changed the music, and some characters look too serious, e.g. Krillin. He never smiles, even when he says something light hearted. He's freeking me out!
i'm happy with music
i'm just glad grandpa gohans music's on
and even when there surposed to be laughing and chuckling the mouths move like thunderbird puppets
but still 10sur10 for me
Super #17
22-10-2005, 01:01
Anyone got Super 17 yet I unlocked him earlier
SSJ Flipip
22-10-2005, 02:39
Yeah, I unlocked loads of characters with the Potara's it's awesome. I've gotta unlock Janemba then I don't need to fuse anymore! :D
Need to collect stupid Dragonballs though :\
janembuu
22-10-2005, 03:43
i know what you mean when looking for the dragonballs during battles i seem to spend time trying to either find or pick them up which gives the computer time to wipe me out with those ki attacks they constantly throw at you :mad: but i'll get them soon enough mdr1
Commander Grant
22-10-2005, 09:57
i only need 4 or 5 more unlockable charactors and i have everyone :chapeau: . gotenks or oozaru are my favourite or ssj4 gogeta 10sur10
Camera angles get slightly annoying, and the CPU is very aggressive. But overall I love this game.
10/10 says it all 10sur10
10/10 says it all 10sur10
9.9 recurring out of 10. It'sjust the angles
9.9 recurring out of 10. It'sjust the angles
true true anybody played against a friend yet? its awesome on kamis lookout try it i'm inviting 4 m8s for a tourney 10sur10
true true anybody played against a friend yet? its awesome on kamis lookout try it i'm inviting 4 m8s for a tourney 10sur10
Cool idea, if they like dbz rolleyesa :cry2: :noooo: :respect: :laugh:
Cool idea, if they like dbz rolleyesa :cry2: :noooo: :respect: :laugh:
3 of my m8s do!! 10sur10
Well then you live in a pace I'd like to live in
Goku 1226
22-10-2005, 11:58
I have like 5 more Battlegates to unlock.
It's not Baby.
It's not the one with Cell vs Super 17.
It's not the one with Buu vs Janemba o.O
It's not the one with Bojack.
Aaaand a few more I can't remember -_-
How do you complete it so fast o.O
It's really stupid, I can't even do the level when you have to stay alive for 60 seconds against Vegeta Oozaru. madred:
all you have to do to survive 60 seconds against vegeta ouzaru is:
fly behind a rock far away and keep a distance from that rock (not to far or else he might just fly to you and jump over the rock and pound you).Charge your ki to max.Then press L2 + X (dash button), to do a Super Dragon dash.then fly like heck around away from ouzaru vegeta.Becareful the Super Dragon dash uses your ki.So when your running low on ki land on a safe spot while ouzaru veegta is charging then, charge your ki up to max again and then do the same action again and again countinues until the 60 seconds run out.And there you have it and perfect stratedgy to escape vegeta ouzaru and survive.
To learn how to control the dragon and super dragon dashes go to tutorial in practice mode.Picolo will teach you everythign you nee dto know on dragon and super dragon dashes and how to control them. Its hard btu you will get used to it.
p.s @ stemako: I beat all z-gates in z-battle gate mode 100% in easy and normal mode.I unlocked all 90 characters.I unlocked all 241/241 capsules.I summoned shenron 7 times in z-battle gate mode and unlocked all the extras and wished all 7 wishes.All of my characters are at ranks 50- at ultimate battle mode.
so I have completed the whole game in easy mode: 100% and in normal mode 80% so im almost done with the whole game.All in 3 days.
My goal: To be as equal as orion.
James_Han
22-10-2005, 14:38
Anyone got Super 17 yet I unlocked him earlier
Yeh i have, His Hell thingy attack is realy good, 50combo it does!.
I like Teen Gohan his punchs and kicks are realy fast.
I'll tell you my fave combo on the game.!
first i'll go up to my opponante and press square, then i press O to telleport
behind them, do that acouple of times then press square then X to stun my opponante then i press 'Up' + X to grapple my oppoanet or square and triangle to blast em away and the finnish it off use a powerful move like
R2+UP+Triangle, and taadaaa!
silversaiyan
22-10-2005, 15:05
how do you beat vegeta oozaru form ???
SSJ Flipip
22-10-2005, 15:24
You don't. You have to run away from him for 60 seconds.
Harder than it sounds ye know. :mefiant:
James_Han
22-10-2005, 16:06
Keep ya finger on R2 and press X to dash away super fast called 'Dragon Dash'
princeofallsayains
22-10-2005, 16:10
Can anyone help me with the z-evolution thing, i have no idea how it works?
LegendaryBrolly
22-10-2005, 17:48
Lets try and keep the opinions (good and bad) in here please....... :respect:
Yeah guys, stick to the topic.
Let's see now, this game only has problems with the camera view but that's about it i guess.
The good is just that the game kicks a ss:
Best graphics imo of the PS2 era.
Awesome gameplay.
Dragonball/ Z /GT chars are in it.
The Beam struggle (Kamehameha vs Galick Gun)
The coolest Storymode, especially the Majin buu saga and hence even the movie chars kick a ss tonguegre
Japanese voices (A hardcore fan like me just loves the voices)
English voices (well it's from the originale series, so ya gotta give an big tup for that :wink:
The long gameplay value.
Dragonball Z tonguegre
The 3 D environment
Atari, you guys just rule and i hope you all continue and make an dragonball Z game on the PS3, i am going to get that for sure because for some reason i don't like the Xbox360 lolblue:
Let's face it, Dragonball Z is just the number one genre of Atari tonguegre
clone_number_8_uk
22-10-2005, 18:37
Keep ya finger on R2 and press X to dash away super fast called 'Dragon Dash'
i use that alot but great ape seems to be at the same speed as that by just pressing X
100% on sayain :chapeau: 55% on frieza now i just wanna take my time :p
Super #17
22-10-2005, 19:30
I have all but 4 sagas completed
88% on freiza
0% on Broly
0% on Cooler
0% on True Tournament
Goku 1226
22-10-2005, 20:03
I have all but 4 sagas completed
88% on freiza
0% on Broly
0% on Cooler
0% on True Tournament
omg brolly saga and cooler are sooooooo easy
and true world tourny is just for 5 yera olds lolblue:
clone_number_8_uk
22-10-2005, 20:09
omg brolly saga and cooler are sooooooo easy
and true world tourny is just for 5 yera olds lolblue:
done
100%-andriod/cell,broly,bojack
done frieza and saiayn but not all matches
buu saga-done all but 1 up to vegeta vs kid buu
75%future trunks
Nirvana Pheonix
22-10-2005, 20:10
Chiller at 8PM last night you were on the Saiyan saga, by then I was nearly finished on Androids
! am this morining I completed the battle gates all 100%, I haven't got the final 5 charcters or gate from shenron yet. I've been playing on duelling mode most of today.
my review
well the fighting control system is great, the fighting is spot on, bar the camera when it's shows a tree in front of you.
The music is OK, too much bad music from Budokai 2 is back.
The graphics are aewsome, too bad the battle gate movies are lame.
The layout is good but the pictures of characters have too thick lines, (cartoon not game graphic chars) apart from that, this is a great game. The fact all characters have the same button combos for moves doesn't bother me, but lots of chars sharing moves? For Cell and Buu it's OK but the full power rushes and volleys make you fell ripeed.
My score: 9.4
Goku 1226
22-10-2005, 20:19
Chiller at 8PM last night you were on the Saiyan saga, by then I was nearly finished on Androids
! am this morining I completed the battle gates all 100%, I haven't got the final 5 charcters or gate from shenron yet. I've been playing on duelling mode most of today.
my review
well the fighting control system is great, the fighting is spot on, bar the camera when it's shows a tree in front of you.
The music is OK, too much bad music from Budokai 2 is back.
The graphics are aewsome, too bad the battle gate movies are lame.
The layout is good but the pictures of characters have too thick lines, (cartoon not game graphic chars) apart from that, this is a great game. The fact all characters have the same button combos for moves doesn't bother me, but lots of chars sharing moves? For Cell and Buu it's OK but the full power rushes and volleys make you fell ripeed.
My score: 9.4How many day shave you had the game? ad did you complete it on easy mode?
Nirvana Pheonix
22-10-2005, 20:29
I started on easy to get to grips with the game, around halfway through the Frieza saga I put it onto Normal.
I actually beat Oouzaru Vegeta after I completed the Majin Buu saga.
My top 5 have to be
Bojack
Super 17
Super Trunks Super Saiyan
Gogeta Super Saiyan
Dabura
I have like 5 more Battlegates to unlock.
It's not Baby.
It's not the one with Cell vs Super 17.
It's not the one with Buu vs Janemba o.O
It's not the one with Bojack.
Aaaand a few more I can't remember -_-
How do you complete it so fast o.O
It's really stupid, I can't even do the level when you have to stay alive for 60 seconds against Vegeta Oozaru. madred:
Is a s17 a battle gate?
Nirvana Pheonix
22-10-2005, 21:40
The Ultimate Android is Super 17's batt;e gate, you also fight him with Perfect Cell and you fight Super Gogeta with him in other Battle Gates.
The Ultimate Android is Super 17's batt;e gate, you also fight him with Perfect Cell and you fight Super Gogeta with him in other Battle Gates.
How do get that. Is it when you have completed the android saga
Nirvana Pheonix
22-10-2005, 21:57
I think so but am not sure, complete all the Movie Z Battle Gates as well. I jst played through all the battle gates I had and played through the new ones.
I think so but am not sure, complete all the Movie Z Battle Gates as well. I jst played through all the battle gates I had and played through the new ones.
Are the movie ones tru to the characters plot or are they different.
I just got the game today iv been on it all day long! DBZ budokai Tenkaichi OWNS!! im use to some of the controlls not all of them tho =(
ElementalDragon
23-10-2005, 13:23
BT rules :) Its the best DBz game ever.
BT rules :) Its the best DBz game ever.
Well that's random. Nirvana phoenix do you play the sagas in chronogical order I just did it random like 80% of one saga 37% another etc.
i started in order then went berserk unlocking the nearest thing :p
SS5_Goku
24-10-2005, 01:52
I miss the capsule system and powering up during battles :cry2:
Completed all Z Battle Gates.
The movie and GT ones are very pointless. 1 Battle. weirdblue
Anyway my fave characters are:
1st- Frieza Final Form 100%
Powerful and only needs 4 punches to get a full charge. Destructo Disk is amazing for when your enemy gets sent flying. Plus Frieza is No 1 Villian of all time. Fact. :p
2nd- Yamcha
Why do all the weaklings destroy everyone? A full charge attack + Wolf Fang Fist is a great combo.
3rd- Jeice
"Ow do ye like dis?!?" Very good character and pretty quick and powerful. "CRUSHER BALL!" Nuff said. :p
princeofallsayains
24-10-2005, 13:27
Thats me nearly finished the game, have that last gate to open and have unloked everyone except from tiens master. And my fav characters have to be
1. Majin Vegeta
2. Perfect Form Cell
3. Super Android 17
Super #17
24-10-2005, 13:32
My favourite Characters are
Baby Vegeta
Way too powerful for his own good revenge death ball is almost an instant kill final flash puts them almost in yellow from the off good advantage to be had.
Cell jr
He is way fast and has really powerful attacks like special beam cannon high power rush and kamehameha.
Majin Vegeta
I watched this guy destroy a ssj4 gogeta in com vs com both on normal he is too cool to be true
princeofallsayains
24-10-2005, 13:33
Yeh baby is quite good. Not played as cell jr yet though.
LittleDragonZhaoYun
24-10-2005, 13:39
I just got to get both Apes, general tao, and a few items. I have 100% in all Z gates, i just wish they would use the capsule system in the next game, making us to have to unlock moves etc.
The list of characters is amazing, and i prefer no IGT, because some frieza's i hate some i like etc.
princeofallsayains
24-10-2005, 13:41
Oh yeh a need the apes too lol.
Super #17
24-10-2005, 13:41
yeha I kinda like the No IGts now.
and they do have a capsule system its the Z evolution system now
LittleDragonZhaoYun
24-10-2005, 13:57
Yeah, but........ its not as hard and as effort taking as budokai 3's large capsule list. And most of the capsule are for very limited characters, mostly the androids.
TheSaiyanPrince
24-10-2005, 14:25
Wooooo finished the game yesterday 100% on every z gate every character cept 4 de ones were u haf to get the dragonballs
my fave characters would be :
Janemba ( his lightning shower rain owns )
Super 17 ( well he jes kicks *** )
SSJ super trunks ( i beat an ooazaru with him and didnt use any energy attaks )
oh if u dnt know how to get someone jes ask i know how to get em all
almightybeing
24-10-2005, 23:45
Sweet game
i would give it 9/10 for 10sur10 it would of needed
- proper password thing (like B3)
- in game trans
but still its gr8
My fave chars are
1.Janemba- his moves rock!
2.Bojack- he is like a machine!
3.Krillin- the destructo disk is sweet :p
My fave arena's
1.Kamis lookout
2.Islands
3.Mountain Road
:p
Beaten all of the Battle Gates, just need to make a few more characters than I've completed it all.
Super #17
25-10-2005, 16:22
I just reset all my data lol
lol why? :laugh: people join my tourney the number 1 under the sun!!!
almightybeing
25-10-2005, 20:27
I beat it all the way.
the game is great i think super 17's absorb ki thing was gr8
i would've give this game a 10sur10 if it wasn't for cheap :atari: who could'nt be bothered to buy the orginal soundtrack of the fights straight from the anime. the jap verion has the original soundtrack :cry2:
Super #17
25-10-2005, 22:13
I reset ym data and I cant beat vegeta oozaru on hard mode :(
brolyssj4
25-10-2005, 23:27
I find that the plays east excelent compared to the 3 there is more liberter compared to the combat
10sur10
janembuu
26-10-2005, 00:39
i think tenkaichi is an awesome game but dosen't anyone find that on battle gate mode the com keeps on punching and then winding you and then repeating this till eventually dodging works and that the moves for most characters are the same and tend to get a bit tedious mdr1
i think tenkaichi is an awesome game but dosen't anyone find that on battle gate mode the com keeps on punching and then winding you and then repeating this till eventually dodging works and that the moves for most characters are the same and tend to get a bit tedious mdr1
Ye but it has to have something wrong not all games are perfect eekblue: :laugh:
true true i think the battle damage was great! the other char moves slower and weaker i think cooler looks sweet battle damaged :p
LittleDragonZhaoYun
26-10-2005, 14:01
Yeah the music was a letdown, they should use the actual music from the anime, the japanese and the europe. Has anyone noticed, the japanese game was done by Bandai and the European by Atari. So this must be the reason why?
Yeah the music was a letdown, they should use the actual music from the anime, the japanese and the europe. Has anyone noticed, the japanese game was done by Bandai and the European by Atari. So this must be the reason why?
neither bandai or atari made the game-spike made it (if any1 didn't know that already).
here how it goes:
spike-made the game
bandai-own the budokai brand
atari-distribute the game
:atari: Everyone join up for my sayan saga tourney if you haven't already :atari:
LittleDragonZhaoYun
26-10-2005, 17:31
neither bandai or atari made the game-spike made it (if any1 didn't know that already).
here how it goes:
spike-made the game
bandai-own the budokai brand
atari-distribute the game
Ok i never knew that, so why did we not get the actual anime music in europe?
neither bandai or atari made the game-spike made it (if any1 didn't know that already).
here how it goes:
spike-made the game
bandai-own the budokai brand
atari-distribute the game
No, Bandai own the license to all the Dragon Ball games.
well having owned almost every dragonball Z game ever ihave to give my opinion.....in terms of anticipation it's been a total let down-spike have in my opinion, ruined it...there was nuffin much wrong with Budokai 3...so why have they made the music worse, made cut scenes not existant and replaced them with crappy talking? i have just played the frieza saga and when the planet is supposed to be exploding and goku leaves him to die-its a serene Namek-lol! get it sorted guys! Also the new battle system sucks and it doesnt feel right playing with just one punch button-we need a kick button back! I also HATE the evolution mode-too confusing! and the rest is okay i suppose. Dont get me wrong i LOVE dragonball Z and most the merchandise but this game should have improved over budokai 3 and it hasnt-its made it cheesier, slower and less agile!:( If Spike do the next one i WONT be buying it!:(
No, Bandai own the license to all the Dragon Ball games.
is this true eekblue:
Recently I emailed Bandai UK about the One Piece: Grand Battle Game and they said exactly this
Sorry, but we do not distribute games in this country, only toys, so I
am afraid that I am unable to help you further on this occasion.
Sharon - Customer Services
If you are reading game publishers this game looks ace and has the same elements as Tenkaichi
To view it
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/onepiecegrandbattle3/index.html?q=one%20piece
The Graphics are better than Tenkaichi *GASP* (in my opinion)
But I just love the show cos it's really cool
WankyBoy
27-10-2005, 03:08
My opinions on the game:
I hate it. I reeeeeally HATE it. I never thought it was possible to make such a simple and dissapointing game. Really, almost everything sucks about this game. There wasn't really anything bad about Budokai 3, the fighting system worked fine, the fights were pretty well balanced, the dodging gave defense much more variaton, there were those cool in-game transformations, awesome ultimate moves with really nice graphics, there were beam struggles, some nice and useful features like Dragon Rush and Hyper Mode, and so on.
The game had everything. Except for the free flight. So why.. WHY not just include the free flight feature in the next DBZ game, and improve some details, some new moves/modes, new characters and so on.
But no, they had to completely change everything. And we all know what happens when you change something that's already great. It get worse, a lot worse. Budokai Tenkaichi is a perfect example of this.
First of all, they take away one of the most important things in a DBZ game: In-game transformations. And that alone made a lot of people pissed of. Including me. But altough it was a real dissapointment, I could've learned to live without those IGTs, if only the game itself was great. But it's not even good. It's belove average.
I've never seen such a simple fighting system in a fighting game. We're all used to the fact that DBZ games doesn't have as deep fighting combos as most other games in the genre but.. c'mon, this is ridiculous. madred:
But okay fine, I could've accepted that, if only there were some good defence. But heeell no, for some weird reason they just had to remove the DODGING of punches/kicks. WHY? WHY??? The dodging worked perfectly in Budokai 3. Because you had to switch from dodging to blocking (for example, if you really needed more ki to transform, you could block the attacks. And if you just wanted to avoid getting any damage, you'd just dodge the attacks. That worked out perfectly.) But in Tenkaichi.. well yeah, the defense is totally useles.
I realize now that I it's just impossible to mention everything that's bad in this game. And it would take hours before I'd even get to the small, bad details. Cause there's just so many big flaws in there.
So I'll just list the good things about Tenkaichi instead:
The battle damage. (The characters clothes will get damaged when health drops belove a certain point, or something.. Wow :rolleyes: And this is like the only real improvement in the game)
The free flight. (The idea is GREAT, but it's not well done at all. Sure, it's nice to fly around there for a while but.. the flying is really simple. Still it's the thing that saves this game, even though the flying sucks.)
Favorite tehnichues. (Not that useful, but still, it's something new.)
New characters. (There's Super 17, Bebi Vegeta, Janemba and guys like that. But I still think they could've included more new characters.)
umh.. yeah. that's pretty much it. :mefiant:
And I didn't even list the real flaws about the game. weirdblue
I completed like 20% of the game (my brother completed the rest) and honestly, I got tired already after the sayian saga.
But well, the game sucks so what. I still managed to get almost as much for the game when I sold it, as I payed for it so.. I'm happy :) And I've already started playing Budokai 3 again. But if they let Spike make the next DBZ game then.. I dunno what I'm gonna do. :anger:
SSJ Flipip
27-10-2005, 03:12
Ok. Well atleast you backed your answer with opinion, thats good enough.
Don't start flaming him people. weirdblue
Although, the game isn't easy nor simple. If it were that simple then it wouldn't be the first ever fighting game to use that engine.
WankyBoy
27-10-2005, 03:18
Ok. Well atleast you backed your answer with opinion, thats good enough.
Don't start flaming him people. weirdblue
Although, the game isn't easy nor simple. If it were that simple then it wouldn't be the first ever fighting game to use that engine.
Don't relly know why I even wrote all that.. lolblue: Since that stuff didn't make much sence, since I didn't mention the negative things about the game.
But whatever. I just never wanna hear the word "Tenkaichi" in my whole life. :p
Ok i never knew that, so why did we not get the actual anime music in europe?
Atari were too cheap to buy the original madred:
Don't relly know why I even wrote all that.. Since that stuff didn't make much sence, since I didn't mention the negative things about the game.
But whatever. I just never wanna hear the word "Tenkaichi" in my whole life.
"Tenkaichi"...LOL :laugh:
WankyBoy
27-10-2005, 12:31
Atari were too cheap to buy the original madred:
"Tenkaichi"...LOL :laugh:
Luckily I didn't HEAR it, only read it. :wink2: :p
But damn, just can't wait a whole year till I'll (hopefully) get a new, PLAYABLE DBZ game. frownblue
well i have a new opinion on BT:
At first i got home played it i thought 'this game rules it will take me ages!'
later i went out after i did the first 2 battles and played a duel with my m8.
As i was out i was thinking 'the game is hard it will take a while' I got in and by the next day i was %80 on the Buu saga. I was dissappointed :noooo: the broly saga 1 fight :hin: the cooler saga 1 fight :hin: wtf went wrong?
By the next day i had all the chars except 2: tao pai pai and great ape(gohan). I had finished z battle gate %100 all over. There were some surprises and some things that let the game down after this i changed my game rating from: 9.9 to 7.9. Me having friends that like dbz(very rare) i was in luck and i played a 4 player tourney i think i got my £30 worth but for the next game you MUST include these:
*On story you fly around (like B3) but improved
*Keep Cut scenes
*Have in game trans
*Keep battle damage
*Maybe make bigger levels ( :laugh: )
*More chars ( :laugh: )
*Make the story longer
I completely disagree wid WankyBoy,the game rocks, but they could have improved on 3 things-
1)Create ur own character(always a wanted 1)
2)Bigger levels
3)they should definately have in gametransformations
Apart from those, the games perfect!!! 10sur10
LittleDragonZhaoYun
27-10-2005, 15:37
Not having in game transformations is a good thing, cause for instance you get to use a certain character for more than a few seconds, and you dont have to use a first form if you don't like it.
However, little movie's like the fusion were always fun to watch, so........
maybe they should add a feature letting you choose if you want IGT's or not?
ultra goku
27-10-2005, 16:33
THIS IS THE BEST BUDOKAI EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :atari: 10sur10 mdr1
i'm no pro at all but i just spent a couple of hours playing it and i unlocked half the characters and did all of the saiyan and frieza and cooler and androids saga! how easy! (except the goku vs great ape fight!) im sorry but budokai 3 was better judged and made better use of the capsules etc! theve simply changed sumthing too much that wasnt broken!:(
in response to other peoples here a list....
GOOD THINGS
+battle damage
+all the extra characters
+flying-although its VERY poorly done
BAD THINGS (well some of them!)
-the cut scenes that arent even cut scenes! just the characters going bahhhh for a second or two lol
-the god awful voices on some characters like the androids!
-the music is in the wrong place....i often get 'happy jolly'music when fighting destoyers of worlds and then 'angry rock' music when goku fights gohan etc!:S
-the non existant capsules/z evolution mode
-the flying system-doesnt work at all!
-the lock on-sorta the same prob when theres lots going on
-the naff menus and cutesy appearance of the game
-that HORRIBLE opening cut scene with 3d rendered characters-WHY!?!
-the way the characters say the move seconds after youve done it-bit slow guys!
-the way hercule whispers 'heres a present for ya' when doing his move
-i could go on! theyvre RUINED it in 89% and only improved on the 11% of the game!:(
the game isn't as awseome i thought it would be. loke every game it has its good points as well as bad points. i had expected that the game would have massive changes from the previous budokai's since the change of developers. the most important thing i was dissappointed with was for a fully 3-d game the environments were way too small.
i've heard a rumour that this game isn't part of the budokai series since the change of developer and atari have only used the word budokai in the titles to make it appealing to fans.
UchihaSasuke
27-10-2005, 19:04
the worst aspect has to be that the so called "movie" battle gates are nothing but just one battle, i mean how can you have been through the movies like that, it's just an excuse to give you the characters. overall, everything before and after the fights....well....sucks, but i think that this game was meant to emphasise how incredible the combat engine is, and how close it is to DBZ not really the story and stuff because we have already had 3 previous budokai's to explain the story to any newcomers in quite a bit of depth, don't you think?
one thing i missed was the alternate costumes-b3 had that element and that was one of the things that made it awseome. almost each character had atleast 3 costumes-being piccolo with his cape and turban was so awseome.
the funniest thing in this game is jeice
sometimes when u fight him he goes "don't play stupid with me ******"
HunterHarry
28-10-2005, 21:46
no, i wish we couod those and use super saiyan broly like in movie Broly: second coming. mdr1
HunterHarry
28-10-2005, 21:48
i miss transforming in battle, they have to bring that back in Dragonball z budokai Tenkaichi 2!! mdr1
rolleyesa yeah lol the old days still the game is great :) think of us as lucky spike,dimps could of turned round and said 'dbz weirdblue ....... :laugh: ' and laughed in our faces but no they tried and i think the succeded with a little push they might gain 100% perfection :o
Goku Sayajin
30-10-2005, 13:43
DBZBT is incredible i like that wery much and is hard to beleve. I buy me Tnekaichi one day ago and i wery happy. :atari: you the best!
A few things too improve
- Bigger Envirnments
- More Environments (i'll make a topic about which we should have for BT2)
- More Charecters
- Bigger Story Mode (like B3)
The game is pretty quick don't you think
Whoa, didn't even realise they were bringing out another DB game!! Haven't played it yet but my bro got it yesterday so I will have a go later on. Looks well good so can't wait!!
oh no......A RADIOACTIVE BUNNY!!!! :laugh: anyway i think the game is sweet does jeice really swear?
Nirvana Pheonix
31-10-2005, 18:29
Read the review on Gamespot, not their review, a better, more accurate and not one sided review.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/dragonballzbudokaitenkaichi/reader_review.html?id=189487
And now read a more accurate Budokai 3 review.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/dragonballzbudokai3/reader_review.html?id=189847
oh no......A RADIOACTIVE BUNNY!!!! :laugh: anyway i think the game is sweet does jeice really swear?
not really a swear word-the first word in wanky boy's name is closely related to it though
Yeah, he shouts "wankah" when you choose him as your opponent. It's because FUNimation is re-dubbing the episodes and showing them uncut (that includes the episodes they never shown).
Nirvana Pheonix
31-10-2005, 20:12
FUNi are including a few curses in their Uncut epsiodes
Korin's Give 'em hell Goku! shocked many.
Here is Tenkaichi's "official" review from Gamespot
Score9.1
Superb
Gameplay 10
Graphics 8
Sound 8
Value 9
Tilt 9
Difficulty: Just Right
Learning Curve: 30 to 60 Minutes
Time Spent: 10 to 20 Hours
"Highly addictive"
By nirvanaphoenix
Posted Oct 30, 2005
A great DBZ game that does have it's flaws but is still great . Play Budokai 3 and then realise how much better this is.
After watching the opening movie, you get this feeling of greatness, on the menus you hear the crappy Budokai 2 music, but the opening movie has more positives than Budokai 2 music has negatives.
The training is long and is difficult to remember, not being able to play it is annoying as well.
The gameplay, which I couldn't wait to get into, was top class. So the moves all had the same combos, so did Budokai 3 (apart from long Death Move combos) but the 5 combos make the game easier and the short combos do work in these battles. The only problems I have with the Gameplay is:
The annoying camera that can, at times, totally obscure your view of the fight.
The moves; the Full Power/ High Speed Rushes and Full Power Energy Volley/ Wave and Ball. This repetitiveness lost points for the system.
Other game problems that could've easily been improved are:
The sayings at the start and ends of fights are always the same.
The movies in Z Battle Gate are extremley sloppy and hardly fill you in at all, even though DBZ fans like me should know what's going on anyway.
The whole, Use Z Items To Improve Characters sucked, the Support moves are good but there could've been more. But it's the fighting that counts, and skill wins fights.
The music brought back from Budokai 2 ruined the audio as well, but you won't care when fighting.
The Graphics are good, but are not as good as Budokai 3, except for Tenkaichi's Super saiyan 4 Goku and Vegeta characters.
The Ultimate Battle and Character Illustartions are great, the first is another cool mode that makes the game more worth it's price. The latter is a great insight into DragonBall Z characters.
Score:7.8
good
Gameplay 7
Graphics 9
Sound 8
Value 8
Tilt 8
Difficulty: Easy
Learning Curve: 0 to 30 Minutes
Time Spent: 20 to 40 Hours
"Almost, but not quite"
By nirvanaphoenix
Posted Oct 31, 2005
The best of the DBZ Trilogy, not as good as Tenkaichi but is nonetheless great. Feels as if there's something missing...
There is a great opening intro to the game, it makes you feel as if this is the last, and best of the Budokai Trilogy.
You're Right.
The graphics in the game are the best in any DBZ game, even Budokai Tenkaichi. The look of a full Super Saiyan 2 trunks at MAX! Power, or Super Saiyan Goku at MAX! or Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta, let that sink in. It looks the business.
The gameplay is better than your average fighter, yeah you sidestep here and dash there, but when you dash and go into your Dragon Rush attack while in Hyper Mode, and no Ki Blasts effect you, and you deal masses of damage to your opponent. It's good.
The cut scenes for arena destruction, Ultimate moves and now the aforementioned Dragon Rush moves look great, though they halt the fighting completley, and when used often look repetitive, you get bored. In fact, every Dragon Rush is exactly the same, bar the end when you perform a different move, like Trunks will kick his opponent in the chest while in midair, then knock the winded fighter to the floor, Frieza will fire beams form his one finger, then an enerhy ball, Cell too. Frieza's third form does a great two finger attack sending out 40 odd beams, bringing your Dragon Rush combo to a total of 67-68. Others will do Ultimate moves; Vegeta, Goku, Piccolo to anme a few. These attacks are risky to do, but with the Dragon Rush damage added to your Ultimate Move damage, it equals something big.
You still transform in battle and you can do more moves or the move will change a little, this is a nice feature but charging to get up to your Ultimate can waste time though, this can either add strategy, or be annoying.
The Dragon Universe is great, though the new Level Up Password system is poor compared to online, the fact the nice looking pictures and text with sounds also decreases the fun of Dragon Universe.
Another thing I didn't like about this game was the fact you had to buy each character's Ultimate Move, Breakthrough, Memories. It's not fun, these thigns stopped it from getting a high 8 or even 9.
All in all, it's a good game and even those who don't like or hate DBZ with a passion should play. If you wanna buy this game, get the Collector's Edition for the UK, or if that's sold out, get the Platinum and for the US get the Greatest Hits.
I hate that approach mode thingy makes it hard to run if ur oppenent is near u (eg against the stupid vegeta ozaru keep getting to like 2secs left then die :mad: )
Played this for a while last night and boy was I imprressed! I think this game rules, it gives you so much more feedom to fight just like they do in DB. ilove how you can fly around miles away from you oppent then rush towards him and give him a kicking, then teleport behind him and beat him some more!! It's great but Gohan Ozario is a pain in the backside! I love it and great wait to waste hours of my life locked in a room with this game!!! 10sur10 :love:
matt201290
01-11-2005, 17:28
I'am a big fan of dragonball/z/gt and have been anticipating its release for along time now I'am exstreamly pleased with i the freedom of movement and the attack combo's although i found it too easy as I won it all on hard in less than 10 hours I'am also disipointed that their wasn't in game transformations and this is a big part of the fights and has been since the first budokai game, aside from this miner glitch in the game I was exstreamly pleased with it, the amount of players in the game is great and being able to play characeters like Master Roshi and The Oozaro form was lots of fun, also the the attack's were much easier to acitivate in the game with the simple combo you had to do to echeive it, I thought that the abilitie to destroy almost anything you came in contact with was a great feature and am very pleased with this. But i feel that if they continue to make the games with spike that they could improve on something's, my rating for this game out of (10) would have to be (8.5) as i was very inprest with the presentation and the detail to landscapes and characters along with the many options to the game but as I said disapointed with no in game transformations and the fact you had to select the level you wanted before you fight. but not in the game.
sasjzakbwoy
01-11-2005, 19:55
its an amazingly great game but sadly, theres a lot of room for improvment. i love the free flight thing but the moves are to fast and boring, and they've replaced du with z battle gate which is very wierd and boring, makes barely any sense and the graphics are crapper than budokai 3's.
now to the good parts. the fast action packed fighting and extremely amazing free flight with split screen action. great graphs and new chars and better way of using characters instead of having to transform every 5 secs and fusion 4ever aswell as breakable objects and under water above and below kamis tower. an endless list (if i can remember them all)
so its a good game and my original ratingwas 9.4/10 which is amazingly high. but still much more improvement needed so its now a 9/10 losing 0.4 whic can make a big difference for a 9 star rated game. so tenkaichi can be a lot better than how it is right now. but its still an amazingly great game and the best ive got and seen!
c'mon guys every game has ups n downs :laugh: it has to be the best dbz game so far
S.S.4 Vegeta
02-11-2005, 10:29
I got the game the firday it came out by the saterday I had got all charaters and done all sagas and all tournaments and done ultimate battle, by the sunday I had done ultimate battle on hard with every charater, with greatdifficulty and trying to find any hints after trying to get some on the forum and with no one else who had i had to doit all alone whitch was very easy after i figured out a little secret who to always beat the computer on hard (which i amnot giving away you can figure out yourself) then i spent last week with my mates playing it non-stop to put the game through its pases, after learning every little secret and every way to dodge and to time teleports and giving each other a general pummeling all five of us caometot he same conclusion about the game. Though it is alot more upgraded it is nothing compaired to Budokai 3, the game may be alot more interative, tenkaichi requires only 10% of the skill that budokai 3 required and budokai 3 had much better auras, at first we couldnt figure out why we prefered to play 3 than the new 4, even though tenkaichi was superior in almost every way, then we relised it. Tenkaichi is just non adictive, budokai 3 was just soo much more fun and it was alot more addictive and it gave more of a dbz feeling than tenkaichi does, this is not just because of the no transes but just budokai 3 is far superior and alot more entertaining, the game is more of a buttenbashing game for the combos though skill is required for blocking and dodging there are no longer any combos are stradergys required,though battle gate is better than DU the game just feels like an upgraded final bout not the next game in the long running budokai series
people hate it because its too easy but i have 4 m8s that like dbz and on 2player it awesome!!
Wouldn't find it the greatest multiplayer ever. You can just get your mate in an unbreakable combo. Match over before it really has finished.
I did like it but there was nothing to go back to. Z Battle Gate was poor, the cutscenes were just people moaning and the "What ifs.." weren't that good. Revenge of the Saiyans is basically Revenge of Vegeta. rolleyesa Erm... Bardock could of faced Dodoria to avenge his friends that were killed by him, Raditz face Zarbon, Nappa faces Monster Zarbon. Even have the Ginyu Force come in for more fights. rolleyesa
Super #17
02-11-2005, 17:46
oh yeah then how coem I was unbetaen in budokai and I need to concentrate hard ot win on tenkiahci and I have a fair share of loses to ym name
Because Budokai was basically Tekken with fireballs. rolleyesa And you weren't unbeatable. rolleyesa
I'm glad that Spike realised it needed to be DBZ and not your standard 2-D fighter. So making it 3-D fighting makes it better than Budokai imo.
yeah i'm with y@mcha! i think the game is sweet!
sasjzakbwoy
03-11-2005, 19:17
you know what!? i have to say that b3 is better than bt because it got a higher rating than bt.
bt:7.0
b3:8.2
tenkaichi is disgracefully boring after you finish z battle gate and ultimate battle. however the actual fighting is more fun than b3's but the graphics are crapper and the characters say the same thing all the time when you play bt. in b3 they say different things and sometimes special things. they need to make b5 and not rush it. give it graphics better than b3 and a better flying mode with an extended area. better camera view and camera freenes with better movement and a much better story mode and extra challenge mode. actual real special move sand attacks and some cinematic moves aswell. they also need to make the scenes in story mode better than just figures with a voice and a speech bubble, and better than someone standing there hurt complaining about losing. aswell as this already long list. it needs more characters, meaning all of them from bt and b3 and include picking your form from the beggining of the match and in-game trasformations.a better fighting style and more combos.
i cant beleive it got lower rating tha n b3!!! for ****s sake this game must be ****!!! madred: :mad:
they need to make somin better and somin more fun and enjoyable and worth playing for. sour: :mad: madred:
Steven Perry
03-11-2005, 20:10
Personally, I think that Budokai 3 is the best DragonBall Z game. The reasons are simple: It's super- fast, visually satisfying, and has excellent controls to accompany it. :)
There are many aspects that I don't like about Tenkaichi, including the fighting engine. You can't really pursue, all of the good combos are gone, and you power up by only pressing one button. I could go on, but they have already been mentioned. I hope that the next Budokai game is worked on by Dimps, not Spike. Well, actually, Spike has added a few things that Budokai 3 didn't... These things contribute to making it feel a little more like DragonBall Z. So, if Spike and Dimps teamed up... :wink2:
By the way, don't you think that the character profiles are excellent? It seems that these people really knew their DBZ! The funny thing is though, is that the story mode is very brief. Come to think of it, none of the games feature a proper DragonBall Z story line. Tenkaichi is the worst; how are people that are new to DragonBall Z supposed to know what’s going on? The cut scenes don’t tell you much... frownblue
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sasjzakbwoy
03-11-2005, 20:18
exactly. but b3 has too many fake parts in the story mode
Steven Perry
03-11-2005, 20:22
exactly. but b3 has too many fake parts in the story mode
Erm... Fake parts? Do you mean the bonus voice mode? :mefiant:
i think he meant more in the lines of-How the hell is chiaoutzu in planet namek
sasjzakbwoy
03-11-2005, 21:22
like when you fight frieza on namek once after that theres three red spots and u get to fight ssj vegeta or cooler.
you get to fight piccollo for brolly and saibamen for brolly.
etc. you get the point
that's in b3-i thought u were talking about bt
ssj5gogeta
04-11-2005, 01:19
Right then, just got the game on Monday from Virgin Megastores (£32.99 not too bad :) ) GAME didnt have it weirdblue
Anyway. I think this is the best Dragonball Z game released yet, unfortunately that isn't saying a great deal, as the previous Dragonball games have been poorly realised. This sets the bar a little higher however, and it is good to see that DB games are improving with every new release. From the opening scene you can tell this is going to be something special. Rarely has an introduction scene seemed so powerful, and felt so brilliant. I reach the main menu, to be greeted by two things. Firstly that tacky music that has been in the previous Budokai games, and secondly, a plethora of options. It's going to take a long time to finish this game! The Z Battle Gate mode is enjoyable in short burst, but tedious if played for a long time, much like the rest of the game (more on that later). You basically choose a saga, and play your way through a series of fights until you've completed that specific saga and you can move on to the next. While it provides a wide selection of characters to play as, it doesn't really do enough to keep this mode enjoyable during extended play. The dubbing is poor, yet not to the extent that many would lead you to believe (Tom, Mike I'm looking at you tonguegre ) and the "cut-scenes" don't feel like cut scenes at all, rather some cheap dialogue that leaves anyone who doesnt know much about the world of Dragonball Z clueless. I would have loved to see the style used in the Intro scene to be used for the pre-battle cut scenes. Now onto the fights themselves. The best part of the new 3D engine is the freedom it gives you. You can run/fly around wherever you want (within the stages boundaries). However thats where the good news really ends for BT's battle system. Its biggest problems are repetitiveness and simplicity. It is far too easy to simple press square a few times to begin punching and kicking your opponents, then gently tap triangle to stun the enemy, then rinse and repeat the procedure, thus creating an unbeatable combo. Admittedly this is far harder to pull off on higher difficulties, but is still something which needs to be adressed in future iterations. Unfortunately, they still haven't decided to break free from repeating move sets for other characters. So many times you'll find characters who can perform the same moves. This is understandable when its a move many characters actually harness the power of during the TV series, for example the Kamehameha. However when its just generic beam move #4 it is just incredibly annoyng and repetitive. Another problem with the system is that people only have 3 finishing moves anyway, even less than Budokai 3, itself criticised for lack of finishing moves. The saving grace of the move sets is the new defensive moves or "Favourite Techniques". Ranging from "Instantaneous Transmission" to "Solar Flare", and "Power Up To The Very Limit" to "Explosive Wave" these present both an interesting new dimension, and a "Get out of Jail Free" card to the player. Having to choose between using a "Favourite Technique" and powering up and use a "Super finishing move" also presents the player with more options. The finishing moves themselves also feel particularly understated especially compared to the last installment of the series. However I think the implication of the real time damage system is fantastic, it gives you a real sense of achievement when you see your opponent black and blue. Annoyingly many characters feel overpowered. All of the bigger opponents (Broly, Oozaru etc) can completely resist punches, and the fact they dont flinch when attacked gives them an unfair advantage, this sort of realism is unneeded in a game where Krillin can beat Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta. The Biggest problem with the combat system however, is that during extended play it simply becomes boring, it feels too much of the same. The system is too repetitive, it basically descends into punch, punch, punch, kick, charged punch, finishing move, repeat, repeat, super finishing move. The visuals are, as ever superb, the cel shading suiting the anime brilliantly. The voices and other sounds are perfect as well, leaving little to be desired in the aesthetics department. A lot of the problem with the game is that good ideas have been implemented poorly. The "What Ifs..?" for example are a huge dissapointment, they simply play out as just another series of fights with no real story, no real outcome, and no real point to all the happenings. I thought the Budokai 1 "What Ifs..?" were great, so perhaps the next installment should take a leaf out of B1's book (leaf out of B1's book??? Is that even an existing cliché?). Ultimate Battle was another good idea, unfortunately not used as well as it could have been. The Computer AI fluctuates wildly, I fought the 15th ranked player, and defeated him easier, yet almost got perfected by the 14th ranked. However in short burst this game is still extremely fun to play, and the best Dragonbal Z I have played so far.
Summary: BT still suffers from the same problem I have found with all DBZ games... If it wasn't a Dragonball game I wouldn't have bought it, because the most joy from the game comes from unlocking and playing as your favourite characters. As a standalone game, it suffers from many flaws, but as a finished product it stands proud.
Final Score: 7.7 (if you are a Dragonball Z Fanatic, like me, then bump that score up to an 8.7)
Thanks to anyone who bothered to read all of that :laugh:
Might just be my longest ever post... thats what happens when your still on half term and everyone else is back at school, and therefore asleep right now tonguegre
well i like it! how long did all that take you!
ssj5gogeta
04-11-2005, 21:20
Not too long.
I want to be a games journalist when I'm older.
It wasn't particularly well written but it was late at night so... :nuts:
games journalist....nice i wanna be a saiyan but ah well..........
sasjzakbwoy
05-11-2005, 14:48
haha lol!! joka ky!
I've read Mike's very very long review. tonguegre Yes I know the dubbing is awful (No wonder you aimed it at me tonguegre ) but I have found a way to break the 'unbeatable combos' and it was staring me in the face. :o
Next time they could at least add "Make your own Z Battle Gate." I wanted to learn about the movies and only learned how they finished. rolleyesa
Nirvana Pheonix
05-11-2005, 23:58
I agree with Y@mcha and Mike completley, though I feel that the same buttons for combos are nothing major, especially when you're in a furious fight, you want to pull the move off quick.
FUNimation have been really poor for this game, I even bought an American copy of DragonBall Z Budokai (I don't own the UK copy) from eBay only to find it didn't work. But my PS2 plays American DVD's. Turns out American DVd's have Region 2 on them as well, well FUNi's ones anwyay.
But the music and voices on Tenkaichi were pathetic, I love the profiles though.
I was hoping for Budokai movies with Bruce Faulconer music such as the original Perfect Cell theme or the remix.
The enviroments are gerat, not the rainbow shield like barriers.
I love Explosion Wave favourite move, Instanteneous Transmission too, Solar Flare never works.
Steven Perry
06-11-2005, 18:52
the music and voices on Tenkaichi were pathetic, I love the profiles though.
I was hoping for Budokai movies with Bruce Faulconer music such as the original Perfect Cell theme or the remix.
The environments are great, not the rainbow shield like barriers.
I love Explosion Wave favourite move, Instantaneous Transmission too, Solar Flare never works.
Yup! Faulconer's music should be added, not those stupid instrumentals... I think the A.I needs re-doing, as they sometimes do the same combos. Speaking of combos, there aren't many... Anyway, I like the new additions, such as the counter- attack, lock- on system, power meter (underneath the map), etc...
Bring back pursue, and the dodging! It would be really neat if you could pursue behind your opponent, in a flash, leaving an after- image. Then, you could pinball them around the arena! :bravo:
Read the review on Gamespot, not their review, a better, more accurate and not one sided review.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/dragonballzbudokaitenkaichi/reader_review.html?id=189487
And now read a more accurate Budokai 3 review.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/dragonballzbudokai3/reader_review.html?id=189847
You know.. i dont really find these more accurate. I do think that DBZ 3 is better than Tenkaichi. So the fact that it got more discredits the whole thing.. But i do think they gave it too little for the actual gamespot review. What was it? like 7.5 or smth>??
some people like it some hate it......i like it :bravo:
sasjzakbwoy
07-11-2005, 21:52
no :nono: . i like the game but im just saying there's a lot more room for improvment than i first thought it needed, you know. it could of been a lot better than this.
After playing Tenkaichi again I think it is better than Budokai 3. Now it isn't just punch,punch,punch,punch and then a fireball. There's more strategy to fighting including teleport attacks, dragon homing etc.
I would of liked to see more variety of moves. rolleyesa
at least you had a kick button on Budokai 3...... rolleyesa
Vegetassj5 2005
12-11-2005, 16:26
Graphics Tenkaichi is without question the most beautiful episode of the series. Not only graphics are superb but returned is also extremely faithful to the animated series, which is not to displease to us. 17/20
Jouability The gameplay is far from being intuitive because it abounds in subtleties which one does not have inevitably the reflex to use at the beginning, and the many necessary combinations are assimilated only after a few hours of practice. All this makes the parts all the more rich and interesting on the long term. 16/20
Lifespan Do not believe to buckle the play in one afternoon. You will need much time to resolve the totality of the playable characters which borders the about sixty. The contents of the play are exhaustive, as well with two players in solo. 15/20
Bandage sound The large black spot of the software lies in the band. The musics of the jazz type do not have anything to make in a play DBZ, and are in extreme cases of the bearable one. Fortunately, this one is caught up with at the vocal level since Japanese doubling is proposed in the options! 10/20
Scenario The principal mode making it possible to revive the principal combat of the various periods of animates proposes unfortunately only one minimum of dialogues. There are however strong chances that you know the series already by heart. 11/20
General note Difficult to pass after excellent Budokai 3, but Tenkaichi however manages to outclass its elder by offering an innovative approach of the engagements between super warriors. The total freedom of movements which is proposed authorizes confrontations extremely faithful to those of the animated series, and the gameplay abounds in subtleties which are let control only after one intense practical. This rate/rhythm, even the allergic ones to the universe of Dragon Ball Z will end up being let try!
:atari:
SUPER-ANDRIOD-17
13-11-2005, 13:54
when gomes the new tenkaichi????????
Graphics Tenkaichi is without question the most beautiful episode of the series. Not only graphics are superb but returned is also extremely faithful to the animated series, which is not to displease to us. 17/20
Jouability The gameplay is far from being intuitive because it abounds in subtleties which one does not have inevitably the reflex to use at the beginning, and the many necessary combinations are assimilated only after a few hours of practice. All this makes the parts all the more rich and interesting on the long term. 16/20
Lifespan Do not believe to buckle the play in one afternoon. You will need much time to resolve the totality of the playable characters which borders the about sixty. The contents of the play are exhaustive, as well with two players in solo. 15/20
Bandage sound The large black spot of the software lies in the band. The musics of the jazz type do not have anything to make in a play DBZ, and are in extreme cases of the bearable one. Fortunately, this one is caught up with at the vocal level since Japanese doubling is proposed in the options! 10/20
Scenario The principal mode making it possible to revive the principal combat of the various periods of animates proposes unfortunately only one minimum of dialogues. There are however strong chances that you know the series already by heart. 11/20
General note Difficult to pass after excellent Budokai 3, but Tenkaichi however manages to outclass its elder by offering an innovative approach of the engagements between super warriors. The total freedom of movements which is proposed authorizes confrontations extremely faithful to those of the animated series, and the gameplay abounds in subtleties which are let control only after one intense practical. This rate/rhythm, even the allergic ones to the universe of Dragon Ball Z will end up being let try!
:atari:
Erm, what?????????????
sasjzakbwoy
13-11-2005, 14:29
damn. it only got 69/100. well thats about 7/10.
gogetaSS
24-11-2005, 19:30
I didn't particularly like this game as much as B3. I completed 100% (all Z battle gates, all wishes, characters, UB, all Z items, EVERYTHING), on hard, in about 8 hours. It's just too damn easy! The character moves are hopeless, a ton of forms have Super Kamehameha and Ki volleys. Kinda pathetic. On the other hand, the combat is very sophistocated, and there is a variety. However, the camera angles leave a lot to be desired. Overall: 7.2/10
Oh, BTW, why the hell do Atari call them Great Apes? It's Ózaru. I could spell it in Katakana, but I can't be bothered. I've just got my fingers crossed for a B3 style DBZ game on PSP.
sasjzakbwoy
26-11-2005, 00:18
.sseltniop si ecnetnes siht wonk ll'uoy sdrawkcab daer nac uoy fI
If you can read backwards you'll know this sentence is pointless.
thats quite good.
?ti etirw yhw ,sseltniop s'ti fI
try this one.
and to be honest i think that spike and bandai and atari made a rushed and ruined game. next time they should try harder.
.sseltniop si ecnetnes siht wonk ll'uoy sdrawkcab daer nac uoy fI
If you can read backwards you'll know this sentence is pointless.
thats quite good.
?ti etirw yhw ,sseltniop s'ti fI
try this one.
What a way to ruin something already old.
do you think there will be anymore dbz games after supersonic warriors?
sasjzakbwoy
26-11-2005, 21:42
What a way to ruin something already old.
what do you mean by that, ey?! :mefiant: madred:
gogetaSS
26-11-2005, 22:29
what do you mean by that, ey?! :mefiant: madred:
I must say, I'm also confused on what Spiers said...
And in response to whoever said it, yeah, Bandai will probably cram DBZ games down our throat for the next ten years.
sasjzakbwoy
26-11-2005, 23:05
"yeah, Bandai will probably cram DBZ games down our throat for the next ten years."
yeah, i agree with you. bandai will keep on creating dbz games, because thats the type of games they make. cartoon games. e.g. dbz, digimon, transormers and pokemon(i think).
well i hope they do :) i want a perfect dbz game!i think BT was good but it was rushed rolleyesa
gogetaSS
27-11-2005, 12:19
A game I'd like to see is a Budokai 3 style game on PSP, but just for the movies, and the ability to unlock at least one of the full movies for completing certain things. I myself are looking forward to SuperSonic Warriors 2, I saw a Japanese trailer for it, and it's seems that it's gonna be the first good game for DS.
i want supersonic warriors 2 aswell it looks gr8 also i hope there is a Budokai Tenkaichi 2 for ps3/xbox 360 that would be sweeeet!
TenShinHan
23-12-2005, 19:57
FUNi are including a few curses in their Uncut epsiodes
Korin's Give 'em hell Goku! shocked many.
Here is Tenkaichi's "official" review from Gamespot
I agree with you however the characters are much better in budokai tenkaichi than in the previous budokais ex:Tien Shin Han is much better almost perfect by other side in the others Budokais they showed disrespect by Tien with a lot of mistakes.
But the others caracters are much better too.
It wud me totally 10sur10 if the camra angles werent so messed up
the camera doesnt bother me so much its just the story was sooo short
I agree with you however the characters are much better in budokai tenkaichi than in the previous budokais ex:Tien Shin Han is much better almost perfect by other side in the others Budokais they showed disrespect by Tien with a lot of mistakes.
But the others caracters are much better too.
No offence, but in almost all of your posts you mention Tenshinhan in one way or another.
lolblue: well said anyway back on topic a few weeks ago i found a japanese DBZBT image and comparing it to the PAL version the JAP was alot better take a look...
edit: how do i place pictures in my reply :hin:
TenShinHan
29-12-2005, 19:23
lolblue: well said anyway back on topic a few weeks ago i found a japanese DBZBT image and comparing it to the PAL version the JAP was alot better take a look...
edit: how do i place pictures in my reply :hin:
It is better than talk or like about RUNT krilin lolblue: mdr1 :atari:
smeghead
30-01-2006, 21:11
I know it is probably already in this thread but its just too time consuming to read all of the replies so I am going go ask again, please dont slate me for it.
Can anyone help me with the Passwords.
I have gotten all of the Drangon Balls and got all of the people through this and then after that got the 'Password' thing. I was wondering if anyone could shed any light on the passwords...they have left me baffled and bewlidered!
Thank you!
Anthony
Crocodile
30-01-2006, 21:46
I know it is probably already in this thread but its just too time consuming to read all of the replies so I am going go ask again, please dont slate me for it.
Can anyone help me with the Passwords.
I have gotten all of the Drangon Balls and got all of the people through this and then after that got the 'Password' thing. I was wondering if anyone could shed any light on the passwords...they have left me baffled and bewlidered!
Thank you!
Anthony
They are passwords from the Budokai 3 game that you use, if they don't work then I can't really help you.
SS4Gogito
31-01-2006, 13:32
this game sucked, i wish i just rented it instead
ionmaster
20-02-2006, 13:02
Lol
there is some new music though isn't there. I never really noticed the krillen thing. Ps did anone see the dbz movie today can you use both forms of bojack
I've completed the game 100% and no you can't use both forms of bojack
DBZ BT was a great game in my opinion the gameplay rocked!
whatdidido
20-02-2006, 14:21
tenkaichi needs just a couple of things to make it perfect
A few more characters
Better Cut Scenes
Improved AI
Online Gaming
:)
well that would everyone like but yeah i kinda ques it aint coming so easily
I doubt we will ever see another BT :noooo:
well when budokai 3 was a big hit then i realy think that budokai 4 will rock as well
Budokai 3 was pretty cool The Instant Transmission rocked rolleyesa
well i dont have budokai 3 :nuts: but downloading so will have it pretty soon mdr1
Your going to download it and burn it onto a disk?
COPYRIGHT! :nuts:
Ah well just dont let Tenebra know :) Or else you will feel the wrath of the sledgie :nuts:
Who do you think was the best character?
where? i must think was the best character
Understudy
20-02-2006, 23:39
Ah well just dont let Tenebra know :) Or else you will feel the wrath of the sledgie :nuts:Too late..... :nono:
I'm not sure what brand of idiocy you are selling elbrus, but... weirdblue
YOU DO NOT POST ANYTHING ABOUT SOFTWARE PIRACY ON THIS FORUM.
Goodbye. :noooo:
And moving on....
Did anybody notice that the Japanese DBZ BT graphics looked alot better?
Crocodile
21-02-2006, 19:48
And moving on....
Did anybody notice that the Japanese DBZ BT graphics looked alot better?
I did, Japanese are always better off, yet they are the ones who make it.
The Graphics were incredible! They were alot more sharper and more detailed.
Crocodile
21-02-2006, 20:21
The Graphics were incredible! They were alot more sharper and more detailed.
We always seem to get brushed off.
I know :noooo: Its a shame aswell because we too could experience games in a better way.... rolleyesa
The graphics are the same in all versions, unless you're looking at early graphics.
Hmmm well the Japanese version's graphics do look alot better rolleyesa
ionmaster
22-02-2006, 13:06
Hmmm well the Japanese version's graphics do look alot better rolleyesa
Well they would because japanise consoles have better graphics drives.Bit unfair if you ask me. :noooo:
Understudy
22-02-2006, 13:28
The hardware itself doesn't differ greatly, and it makes no sense for the game engine to be very different either.
The biggest difference will be in the quality of the pictures that have been taken of the ingame action.
ionmaster
22-02-2006, 13:31
Still pctures do always look beter i suppose.
I think its just an early image of BT but it looks waaay better than the UK version i will tell you that!
bigwig40
23-02-2006, 13:10
I think its just an early image of BT but it looks waaay better than the UK version i will tell you that!
sorry but what picture are you guys talkin about
This BT picture i dont know how to put it in my post though ....
ionmaster
23-02-2006, 13:26
have u tried copy'n'paste?
Nope cant do it :noooo: Its a screen of SSJ2 Vegeta and SSJ2 Goku rolleyesa
ionmaster
23-02-2006, 14:17
i've got a picture of super trunks which it wouldnt let me use. :cry: :cry: i was gonna use it for my avatr and it was so COOL!!! mdr1 mdr1 mdr1 mdr1
Ok...
Moving on DBZBT in my opinon pwnd B1,B2 and B3 by a mile the gameplay was %100 perfecto!!
ionmaster
23-02-2006, 14:22
there was only 2 ways in which b3 was better than bt
1.in-game trsformations
2.better super finishin movs
Yeah i missed in game transformations :cry: I hope Shin Budokai has them tonguegre
ionmaster
23-02-2006, 14:32
yeh.shin budokai better deliver......or else..... :dbz3_7:
Well from what we have seen it will but thats what happened with BT people got over excited tonguegre Like me tonguegre
ionmaster
23-02-2006, 14:37
i think everyone got over excited about bt
Thats what happens when a new DBZ game comes out people get over excited! Like me with Shin Budokai now :)
ionmaster
23-02-2006, 14:45
you can get excited by all means.just dont go 'wake up at 3 in the mornin to buy it' excited
Did you know that in BT there is a capsule for a character that says 'Character Removed' or its on B3.
ionmaster
23-02-2006, 14:51
must be in b3 for 1 reason
ive completed bt 100%
Well there was a character taken out......
ionmaster
23-02-2006, 15:12
do you actually lose a character?That would be so annoying :mad: :mad:
Its true but its the Hardest Capsule to find i think :) Cant belive they took somebody out
ionmaster
23-02-2006, 15:16
sometimes i really hate games developers!
tonguegre I worship game developers! There the ones that bring us the DBZ games in the 1st place :) Was it Spike that did BT?
ionmaster
23-02-2006, 15:22
yep it was spike
I do worship games developers it's just sometimes they put the most useless things in games eg.a lever that dosnt do anything
I would like it if whilst Spike/Dimps made DBZ games every few months 1 of them spent about 1 year on one of them and made the ultimate DBZ game :)
ionmaster
23-02-2006, 15:38
ULTIMATE........DBZ.........GAME.........<drools>
It would be great though imagine it an RPG but when a battle comes it goes into BT style!!! Big maps (bigger than GTA) It would rock!! 2 Player Ki Tag!!!
ionmaster
23-02-2006, 15:47
you just read my mind :respect:
tonguegre lolblue:
Does anybody play BT and say you pick Goku SSJ1 and your friend chooses Majin Vegta does anybody think ' I wish i could transform now and pwn him tonguegre '?
ionmaster
23-02-2006, 15:53
thats why people want in-game transfrms.i really miss those :cry:
So do i - Not having In Game Trans takes the Feel out of the DBZ games even transforming in Legacy of Goku 2 (GBA) feels good mdr1
ionmaster
23-02-2006, 15:59
they also gave matches a bit more zest and made them more realistic
Yeah i know like having Goku on B3 i used to tease i would go up level by level rolleyesa But on BT it would be like SSJ4.....PWND
ionmaster
23-02-2006, 16:05
am i alone in making my own mini storylines on every game i have?because no in-game trnsfrms made it really hard! :mad:
I used to do it on B3 but not on BT :noooo: ....Well except 1 time when i did King Kong in the City lolblue:
ionmaster
23-02-2006, 16:14
i have to go now so we'll continue these conversations in 4 hrs time :lol:
BudokaiMaster
28-02-2006, 01:44
As everybody knows i am the best in the world at budokai tenkaichi anyways heres my best fighters
1 Kid Goku think about it he has after image which he can teleport at any time plus false courage makes him become like brolly, well if you know how to use your fighters then youll understand me
2 Super Saiyan Super Trunks big muscles may be slow but if his attacks hit it does massive damage.
3 Super Saiyan 4 Goku because of intanstant translocataion not instantant transmission spike maybe you you re-watch the program
4 Any body as i can use anybody except from hercule of course
Favourite Character= i dont have 1 each character is good in their own way
:atari:
Crocodile
28-02-2006, 08:14
As everybody knows i am the best in the world at budokai tenkaichi anyways heres my best fighters
Yea, sure. rolleyesa
1 Kid Goku think about it he has after image which he can teleport at any time plus false courage makes him become like brolly, well if you know how to use your fighters then youll understand me
2 Super Saiyan Super Trunks big muscles may be slow but if his attacks hit it does massive damage.
Fair enough
3 Super Saiyan 4 Goku because of intanstant translocataion not instantant transmission atari maybe you you re-watch the program
It was originally called Instant Transmission.
Atari doesn't make the games, they just publish them.
4 Any body as i can use anybody except from hercule of course
But if you're the best at Tenkaichi then Hercule shouldn't be a bother. tonguegre
Favourite Character= i dont have 1 each character is good in their own way
:atari:
That's a fair comment. But I don't see much of your opinions about the game. tonguegre
BudokaiMaster
28-02-2006, 10:38
Yea, sure. rolleyesa
Fair enough
It was originally called Instant Transmission.
Atari doesn't make the games, they just publish them.
But if you're the best at Tenkaichi then Hercule shouldn't be a bother. tonguegre
That's a fair comment. But I don't see much of your opinions about the game. tonguegre
okay put it this way tenkaichi is the best budokai ever :atari: 10sur10 this is not an opinion it is a fact
okay put it this way tenkaichi is the best budokai ever :atari: 10sur10 this is not an opinion it is a fact
It's an opinion but yes i also agree that BT is the best DBZ game out...so far
BudokaiMaster
28-02-2006, 17:14
It's an opinion but yes i also agree that BT is the best DBZ game out...so far
i feel it is a fact it's just that some people cant admit it
If you check through most this thread, it's mostly about how dissapointing Tenkaichi was.
The fighting system was awful button mashing style. The camera got on people's nerves and it didn't last very long. The lack of a replay value didn't help either.
In all fairness, I do like DBZ Tenkaichi but I thought it could of been much better than it was made.
Crocodile
28-02-2006, 17:38
If you check through most this thread, it's mostly about how dissapointing Tenkaichi was.
The fighting system was awful button mashing style. The camera got on people's nerves and it didn't last very long. The lack of a replay value didn't help either.
In all fairness, I do like DBZ Tenkaichi but I thought it could of been much better than it was made.
It could have been FAR better.
But for those who don't like long posts I wont bother explaining on how I would make it better if I could. lightbulb
It could of been far better...but i really enjoyed it but then i sold it for £30 to my mate rolleyesa When i first got it i was like... eekblue:
Crocodile
28-02-2006, 17:42
It could of been far better...but i really enjoyed it but then i sold it for £30 to my mate rolleyesa When i first got it i was like... eekblue:
I know what you mean.
When I decided to practice first before learning the moves I was like....lightbulb
The first go i had i got beat very bad i was flying into rocks and everythig i was like lightbulb
Crocodile
28-02-2006, 17:47
The first go i had i got beat very bad i was flying into rocks and everythig i was like lightbulb
lightbulb Similar thing happened to me. lightbulb
BudokaiMaster
28-02-2006, 21:36
If you check through most this thread, it's mostly about how dissapointing Tenkaichi was.
The fighting system was awful button mashing style. The camera got on people's nerves and it didn't last very long. The lack of a replay value didn't help either.
In all fairness, I do like DBZ Tenkaichi but I thought it could of been much better than it was made.
you guys are jealous keep giving the companies headache and youll soon find out on google that spike dosnt want to create a dbz game this year for ps2 because of the rude remarks from the atari forum :cry: how shameful
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