Just got Crashday; some more comments and problems

[Stumpus]

First off, it's a fun game but it lacks quite a bit imo.
here's the problems for me -a long,long time fan of Carmageddon in '95
1)Dynamic camera probs.
It goes underground, it suffers from clipping (hall of mirrors) and in some events (mini games; long jump for eg) is positively awefull in that it is placed behind trees,scenery and you can't even see your car!!

2)The collision box of the cars is way off; cars pass *through* the front and rear of both yours and their vehicles with no contact!
Wheels go through the road at some tracks in replays.
Vehicles tumble through the air like they are the weight of paper -amazingly incorrect physics.

3)Slow-mo is pretty poor...x4 x8 is just an annoying stutter with no smoothness whatsoever (Carmageddon if i rememember could go down to 1/16 sec frame rate and it was like glass!) What happened to **REWIND**?

4)scenery damage; oops what happened to the marvellous particles?? Hit a fence -of which there is MANY- and it will miraculously disappear! No exploding into bits of wood, just VANISH. (i'm sure the demo had smashable wood?)

5)vehicle interior -or lack of! The dash boards are just a smudge of pixels, for want of a better word!

6)Editor could be better if we could edit in 3D whilst in it?

6)The lack of a view left or right whilst in car is disabling.

Ok i know i realise it's fledgeling game, we need a hefty patch to address these issues (or some of the most important) and then it will be well on track to be a modern day similar Carmageddon.

I have a very powerful machine and i'm sure i'm not alone in the request for more detail and effects? Those with lesser machines could use a slider to lower or raise detail/particles accordingly. It just seems to be a 'one size fits all release' which is a bit disappointing.

Ah well..

[Fluxx]

But other than that its a good game? :mefiant:

[Stumpus]

Well it is and it isn't Fluxx, i'm trying to keep i constructive as it has a pretty good foundation to work from. Whether the requests can be fixed or are too hardwired within the code is another thing.

The clipping is bad though, it is viewable in all replays (tyres and sometimes half the car under the road) and ruins the enjoyment of them -aside from the fact it looks shoddy..

The vehicles lack 'weight' if you see what i mean? Take for instance Sant Andreas or Need For Speed:Most Wanted, (nothing like GTR or GTLegends but good physics none the less; certainly Sant Andreas trucks or low riders) the cars have 'weight' whilst driving and you can feel it when you physicaly push other cars out the way or hit them at speed. CD vehicles feel very lightweight and are a royal pain to handbrake turn! The front understeers all the time.
Also the things like 'mini games' should allow you to *chose* a vehicle instead of a default one all the time
I'm sure these issues can be addressed in a patch??

here's hoping eh weirdblue

[Fluxx]

I have to be honest and say I havnt had a chance to install it yet, so its hard for me to comment..........I thought the demo showd promise..... :respect:

[Stumpus]

That's the problem though, the demo didn't allow replays.
When you use the cameras it just falls to pieces! It goes out of sync with explosions,your car materialises in the middle of explosions, missiles completely go out of sync with the slow-mo (i've seen my car overtake missiles..) Use track cam and tell me what that's for exactly??? It sits there looking at NOTHING. Half the time it's in the air not even pointing AT the cars....... rolleyesa

Come on roll out the patch -it should have been ready from release, because this isn't acceptable.

[pILAMY]

oke ich hab das spiel gekauft und nu kommt immer bei jedem spielstart die meldung "sicherheitsmodul konnte nicht geöffnet werden...". ich hab die readme datei gelesen und ich hatte mal antiblaxx und sr7.stop oder so drauf. is aber alles weg. ich hab den ganzen pc durchsuchen lassen!! ich verstehs nicht. hab schon 2 mal nue instalier.!! und immer noch nix. mein pc hatt viel mehr als die anforderungen verlangen an Leistung. ich kapiers nicht. VERDAMMTER MIST ATARI SOLL SOFORT SCHREBEN. danke. hab schließlich bezahlt

[BOFH1971]

So guys is it worth the dosh or should I get track mania instead or even wait for something else?

I am also a massive fan of carmageddon (I even bought carmageddon TDR2000 which turned out to be a lemon)

I still play carma 1 and 2 every so often, but they are dated now, but the vehicle realism its great.

also the gta series does have the best physics but massive lack of multiplayer which I yearn for.

ah well maybe APB will do us all justice next year.

[Stumpus]

Well BOFH1971, since your like me and into the physics of Carma, i've got to give it a negative recommendation to you....sorry.

Carma offered sooo much more -and still does, what a modern version of Carma would be like today! :unk:
Crashday isn't even like Carmageddon -although it's refered to it :mefiant: It's more like *Interstate '76* with the guns and missile. Carma vehicles fell apart, piece by piece, and NOTHING touched the hilarity of the weapons; Opponent/Ped repulsificator, mine $hitting ability for eg :laugh:

Anyway, aside from this, the game as it stands needs patched to even ENJOY it in replay mode.

This is more important.

[BOFH1971]

Actually having played the demo I see where you're coming from with the interstate series being like crashday

I did enjoy those as well somewhat, but they never had the longevity of carma1 & 2, carma2 on multiplayer (admittedly over ipx) was hilarious especially the crusher zone level :)

APB proper multiplayer cops n robbers will hopefully be the next big thing, so for now... I shall avail myself of HL2 episode 1 to keep me thrilled until it comes out :)

thanks for the headsup

[Tides]

IMHO this game has very good ideas behind it but just was not made very well. It is plauged with problems from the start and falls very short of being like any of the games that inspired it. I was very excited for this game and now that I have it I probably won;t be playing it very much unless there is a MAJOR patch that dresses most if not all of the issues brought up in this topic. Also hopefully the modding community can breathe some life into this game as there seems to actually be very little to it right out of the box.

A bit of a dissapointment but apparently its the first game from these developers so I can understand. Also trying to live up to even 1/16th of what Carmageddon 2 was is to fail no matter what you do and I must admit I see no resemblance what so ever to any of the Carmageddon series.

[Stumpus]

This get's worse and worse the more you play.... :mad:

You know the mini game where you have to reach the end ramp before exploding? Well i had a cool explosion just as i took off -or thought i had.. Went to replay set speed to x2 and stunt cam. My car got to about 40yards from the ramp and started to repeat explosions with bits coming off,flames coming from it whilst still on the ground!! What a mess............Why oh why did this get released in this state?

Tried a destruction derby bowl DM -no weapons- won it 10-6 with 3 other cars. Watched replay and the collisions were terrible; NO DAMAGE shows on your car in the replay! It stutters and jerks about(your car), When the car(s) are destroyed they sit there bouncing!!?? rolleyesa

Happens ALL THE TIME. The replays DO NOT WORK! Everything is out of SYNC.

This reminds me of the first replay suit in IL-2 (flight sim by Oleg Maddox) Whereby when you viewed replays of your kills, you found your plane shooting fresh air and NO enemy in sight! It was of course fixed in FB, but a game like this LIVES for the replays...god this is depressing :noooo:

Also built a track with jumps to use in a race. The AI just ignores the checkpoints and drives back to the first one! Since found out that here http://www.crashday-game.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1456 it's a problem not just for me. It has all this promise but just doesn't deliver.

Sorry but this is tragic! I bought it for the editor and SP fun but it's a dead duck in this state sour:

[Tides]

To sum up this game I would say:

What a dissapointment.

[Dav11111]

:atari: :nono: im sorry chaps you shouldnt of released game in this state of repair.
A patch vsoon or its going back to the shop.
To sum up a very good looking game but with outweighing probs, sort it pls :mad:
i agree with all what has be said here.