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Crazed_Dodgem
03-07-2006, 18:34
right my question is:

I have drawn a basic diagram to help people understand.

http://static.flickr.com/63/180786712_cffc13e763.jpg

now, say that:
Car A's filters allow it to see B and C
Car C's filters allow it to see A and B
Car B's filters allow it to see A only

now imagine that car C doesnt stop in time for it to take the corner and it collides with Car A, Car A spins after being hit from the sideshot.

Car B can only see what is happening to Car A,

the driver of Car B see's car A spin out but cannot see why because he can't see car C, as far as he knows the car has just span out for no reason,

i can imagine that this will look pretty dodgy if when you're driving, random cars spin out for no reason... so devs, will this be the case?

leighton
03-07-2006, 18:36
MY god is this a physics lesson!?!?!?!?

I personally think that A would be paralell to B but only if C was going precisely 12.4 miles an hour. :nuts:


I seeeeeeee. Great question! i cant wait to see a proper answer but i dont think that one person will be able to filter different to the others without that person being in the filter if you catch my drift!

Jombob
03-07-2006, 18:38
I think you can only see the cars nearist too you thus you would be able to see all the cars!!!

the_gaming_guy
03-07-2006, 18:42
A,B and C can all see each other.

Crazed_Dodgem
03-07-2006, 18:42
well, what about the filters, i heard somewhere (i think it was a developer interview) that you can set the filters to show something like 'red cars only' if car B has that setting, and Car C is a blue car, then B cant see C

craigie22
03-07-2006, 18:46
unfortunately if you'd have posted this earlier or yesterday vibroboy would have answered.

Gaskellorama
03-07-2006, 19:09
I understand what your saying

imagine that say me (Gaskellorama), Leighton and lwsbrk were all racing.

if i decided that I never had to race Lwsbrk, i.e on an ignore list or something, i would imagine that i wouldn't come up on either Leightons on Lwsbrck radar at all, for the exact reason you have said it would be chaos.

so if you have 16 people in 1 area, but 1 of those people decides they don't want to race someone from those 15 other people, they will be booted out and will then see 15 other new people.

i.e you can see either everyone or no-one there will be no inbetweens and therefore the scenario you described could never come up!

but seeming as there are 1000 people on the server i would guess you'll always be able to see a few other people unless everyone hates you!

KoenigViper
03-07-2006, 19:11
No, because I have a good idea when you can't see them, they can't see you regardless.

My theory is that you can only see people set on the same filter, no one else.

"Filter: Everyone" only sees people with "Filter: Everyone."
"Filter: Astons" only sees people with "Filrer: Astons."

The everyone filter may be really be something that is open to everyone.

the_gaming_guy
03-07-2006, 19:14
People can only see you if you can see them.

SIMON008
03-07-2006, 20:05
thank you gaming guy for making that easier

Oddball_E8
03-07-2006, 20:39
People can only see you if you can see them.

but thats not the question...

hes saying that wat if you cant see a specific sort of car (lets say red cars) but a red car bumps in to another players car ahead of you...
then you wont see what bumped the players car, but you will indeed see the players car get bumped... but not who bumped it...

get it?

the_gaming_guy
03-07-2006, 20:43
No but that person would also be in your vision.

He would be one of the closest players to you.

Gaskellorama
04-07-2006, 11:24
but thats not the question...

hes saying that wat if you cant see a specific sort of car (lets say red cars) but a red car bumps in to another players car ahead of you...
then you wont see what bumped the players car, but you will indeed see the players car get bumped... but not who bumped it...

get it?

and we're saying that, that won't be able to happen, the filters will prevent one group of people from being able to see another one>

Konig said it best nice and simple

"Filter: Everyone" only sees people with "Filter: Everyone."
"Filter: Astons" only sees people with "Filter: Astons."

that would prevent the scenario from happening

supermase
04-07-2006, 12:32
"Filter: Everyone" only sees people with "Filter: Everyone."
"Filter: Astons" only sees people with "Filter: Astons."

that would prevent the scenario from happening


ummmmmm so another example me and my friend r filterd every1 (so we see each other) some1 heading the oppisite way is filterd astons, hes being chased by police he hits a car a head of you and wouldent that mean the police is chasing no 1 and ai cars r just crashing in middle of road and nothin is there (well it would look like that to me and my friend) :mefiant:

its got to be the closest 16 to ya its the only thing that could work realy :p

Gaskellorama
04-07-2006, 12:41
But becasue the person coming in the opposite direction has his Aston filter on you won't be able to see him or anything he is involved with you filters will have to be near enough identicle or fairly non specific.

Imagine a key going into a door lock, everything has to match up for you to be able to open the door, if one tooth on the key is missing then the door doesn't open!

Tiger91
04-07-2006, 13:11
first of all there are many kind of filters like
everyone
freinds
same cars
same level
and there few more but i cant remember...(correct me if im wrong..)i think u can see the filter options in the demo (not sure because i heard them in a video)

and this is a very good question..(i could never think of that)
and i hope that vibroboy will answer this question as soon as he visits the site..
it would be damn strange that a car next to one just spins by it self weirdblue . and if i was driving the car b i will get totally mad if car a crashed in me :mad: ...

sorry for my bad english and a long post.... :)

Vibroboy
04-07-2006, 15:23
If B and C can't see each other, then B can't see A.

Bezzers1986
04-07-2006, 15:39
If B and C can't see each other, then B can't see A.

lol, simple as that tonguegre

supermase
06-07-2006, 02:04
But becasue the person coming in the opposite direction has his Aston filter on you won't be able to see him or anything he is involved with you filters will have to be near enough identicle or fairly non specific.

Imagine a key going into a door lock, everything has to match up for you to be able to open the door, if one tooth on the key is missing then the door doesn't open!



haaaaaa i get it now so the ai cars will be separate for each other? meaning me and my m8 whos on aston filter have different ai cars driving round, to say some 1 who as skill lvl filter