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media73
30-08-2006, 12:18
Please sort the bikes animation and HANDLING you will lose half your buying customers if you dont, at the moment playing this game sucks. Drift Drift, totally unrealistic, who are you aiming this game at? why does it drift round even the slightest corner? sports bikes and sports car turn like they are on rails, none of this drift off to toher side of road, its laughable.

It could be amazing, totally amazing, but currently the handling sucks so bad, its not worth a purchase. Im a biker and i know its not a patch on anything near sim. Sorry, no fixy, no buy. This game has the potential to be a 10/10 but curently its grx over anything, 6/10

:nono:

Rizniik
30-08-2006, 12:23
Please sort the bikes animation and HANDLING you will lose half your buying customers if you dont, at the moment playing this game sucks. Drift Drift, totally unrealistic, who are you aiming this game at? why does it drift round even the slightest corner? sports bikes and sports car turn like they are on rails, none of this drift off to toher side of road, its laughable.

It could be amazing, totally amazing, but currently the handling sucks so bad, its not worth a purchase. Im a biker and i know its not a patch on anything near sim. Sorry, no fixy, no buy. This game has the potential to be a 10/10 but curently its grx over anything, 6/10

:nono:

Je' Marino Tata Cratou ui' REPUSTA!

Shemé quial Lechmio!

media73
30-08-2006, 12:24
Je' Marino Tata Cratou ui' REPUSTA!

Shemé quial Lechmio!

for gods sake bloody pointless, amigo :nono:

Rizniik
30-08-2006, 12:31
for gods sake bloody pointless, amigo :nono:

I just don't like swearing in other languages.
So I did in one you wouldn't understand

I havn't tried the demo nor will I get the game to Xbox..
Mainly because I'm an PC gamer..
BUT!
Almost everyone in this forum likes the handling.. and then you mog about its... dreadful.. kinda weird word for that use. But okay,
You do know you can adjust the sensitivity in the game right?

Eagle_Legend
30-08-2006, 12:51
Wtf are you talking about? The handling is great!! You say the cars drift in every corner right? That's just cos you can't drive them, it's obvious that you can't floor it in a corner, of course the car drifts if you do that. Just learn how to handle them and you'll find this game to be great. Trust me

the_gaming_guy
30-08-2006, 13:04
Please sort the bikes animation and HANDLING you will lose half your buying customers if you dont, at the moment playing this game sucks. Drift Drift, totally unrealistic, who are you aiming this game at? why does it drift round even the slightest corner? sports bikes and sports car turn like they are on rails, none of this drift off to toher side of road, its laughable.

It could be amazing, totally amazing, but currently the handling sucks so bad, its not worth a purchase. Im a biker and i know its not a patch on anything near sim. Sorry, no fixy, no buy. This game has the potential to be a 10/10 but curently its grx over anything, 6/10
:nono:


You've posted this too many times.......it's your opinion. Don't buy it if you don't like it. Simple.

Ever heard of STEERING SENSITIVITY? Change it so you can drive unrealistically.

Rizniik
30-08-2006, 13:05
You've posted this too many times.......it's your opinion. Don't buy it if you don't like it. Simple.

Ever heard of STEERING SENSITIVITY? Change it so you can drive unrealistically.

already told him that.. he didn't listen..

Nice Llama btw

the_gaming_guy
30-08-2006, 13:07
already told him that.. he didn't listen..

Nice Llama btw

Why thank you. Nice....err.......avatar......

cruiser69
30-08-2006, 13:34
Awwwwwwwwwww you suck at the game :laugh:

reece_sis
30-08-2006, 16:34
Please sort the bikes animation and HANDLING you will lose half your buying customers if you dont, at the moment playing this game sucks. Drift Drift, totally unrealistic, who are you aiming this game at? why does it drift round even the slightest corner? sports bikes and sports car turn like they are on rails, none of this drift off to toher side of road, its laughable.

It could be amazing, totally amazing, but currently the handling sucks so bad, its not worth a purchase. Im a biker and i know its not a patch on anything near sim. Sorry, no fixy, no buy. This game has the potential to be a 10/10 but curently its grx over anything, 6/10

:nono:
:nono: you suck

mrman
30-08-2006, 16:44
i think the bikes are awesome. I havent seen a fun game with bikes in a long time. prolly the last one i found really enjoyable was the bond game for ps2 with that yellow bike that chases the semi truck with jaws in it. other than that there has never been a game that really gives you the feel of speed. this one does it great. and the fact that its hard and the fact that you cant drive around a sharp bend at 150mph is realistic. It also sets the real racers from the retards. not everyone will be able to own with the bike and thats good.

i do wish however there was more of a "fall" animation. Yeah i guess for pruposes of staying in the race and having a chance you need to put the bike back on the road in an instant, but some animations like moto gp would have been sweet, but ill live without it.

Good job atari. :atari: Cant wait til tuesday.

reece_sis
30-08-2006, 16:44
i think the bikes are awesome. I havent seen a fun game with bikes in a long time. prolly the last one i found really enjoyable was the bond game for ps2 with that yellow bike that chases the semi truck with jaws in it. other than that there has never been a game that really gives you the feel of speed. this one does it great. and the fact that its hard and the fact that you cant drive around a sharp bend at 150mph is realistic. It also sets the real racers from the retards. not everyone will be able to own with the bike and thats good.

i do wish however there was more of a "fall" animation. Yeah i guess for pruposes of staying in the race and having a chance you need to put the bike back on the road in an instant, but some animations like moto gp would have been sweet, but ill live without it.

Good job atari. :atari: Cant wait til tuesday.
I was thinking the same thing ..... mdr1

F166m
30-08-2006, 17:10
I love the handling of the bikes/cars, you just have to learn how to drive them.

Zachc8614
30-08-2006, 17:15
Please sort the bikes animation and HANDLING you will lose half your buying customers if you dont, at the moment playing this game sucks. Drift Drift, totally unrealistic, who are you aiming this game at? why does it drift round even the slightest corner? sports bikes and sports car turn like they are on rails, none of this drift off to toher side of road, its laughable.

It could be amazing, totally amazing, but currently the handling sucks so bad, its not worth a purchase. Im a biker and i know its not a patch on anything near sim. Sorry, no fixy, no buy. This game has the potential to be a 10/10 but curently its grx over anything, 6/10

:nono:
Let me tell you something they ren't gonna lose half there sales because there are few bikes in the game so most likely people are buying it for the cars. And the hhandling is fairly good if you ask me. And another thing i know your still gonna buy the game i gurantee it. :rolleyes:

irR4tiOn4L
30-08-2006, 17:28
I dont know what the original poster meant, but from the movies ive seen, the general handling at speed (ie steering with power on/off) seems good enough, and quite fun - some are on rails, others drift a lot.

Unfortunately, the braking and cornering are a little too lenient i think. Braking distances are probably about half what is to be expected, but most importantly, cornering speeds and grip are too lenient. It also seems that tires have too much grip when they are burning up (because you locked the brakes, or because youre going sideways).

In effect, the game allows you to brake very hard from high speed, continue braking and then throw the car into a ninety degree turn, and not only will you decelerate very rapidly, but youll also continue decelerating and turning as you throw the car into the corner, and wont slide off the road. Youll then be able to floor it and continue forward.

Now its not as extreme or simple as that sounds, but in effect, your able to take 90 degree corners with such speed and low braking distances as would result in you going off the track in real life.


I do understand why this was done, but my favourite semi-realistic physics implementation continues to be Project Gotham Racing 1 (not 2 or 3). That game got it right.

media73
30-08-2006, 17:29
why is evreybody sucking up? and ganging against people who have comments on the game, stop acting like kids with swearing and calling each other names. A forum is for debate, in opion the handling is terrible as is the animation, take motogp3 the animation on the bikes, is smooth and controlable. in tdu there seems to half the animation missing, either 12 ocock or 3 or nine oclock, it isnt right, stop being so sucky, no game is perfect, i am making my comments heard.

the_gaming_guy
30-08-2006, 17:34
why is evreybody sucking up? and ganging against people who have comments on the game, stop acting like kids with swearing and calling each other names. A forum is for debate, in opion the handling is terrible as is the animation, take motogp3 the animation on the bikes, is smooth and controlable. in tdu there seems to half the animation missing, either 12 ocock or 3 or nine oclock, it isnt right, stop being so sucky, no game is perfect, i am making my comments heard.

Can I stop you and say:

THIS GAME IS ABOUT THE CARS. THE BIKES ARE THERE TO GO WITH THE CARS. THIS ISN'T MOTOGP3. THIS IS TDU.

irR4tiOn4L
30-08-2006, 17:40
Can I stop you and say:

THIS GAME IS ABOUT THE CARS. THE BIKES ARE LITTLE FUN THINGS TO GO WITH THE CARS. THIS ISN'T MOTOGP3. THIS IS TDU.

On the other hand, if your going to put something in, you should do it properly. I think thats a poor attitude.

Do note i havent played the demo at all, and cant see too much wrong with the bikes (apart from the fact that the cars are too nimble in comparison)

Eagle_Legend
30-08-2006, 19:57
why is evreybody sucking up? and ganging against people who have comments on the game, stop acting like kids with swearing and calling each other names. A forum is for debate, in opion the handling is terrible as is the animation, take motogp3 the animation on the bikes, is smooth and controlable. in tdu there seems to half the animation missing, either 12 ocock or 3 or nine oclock, it isnt right, stop being so sucky, no game is perfect, i am making my comments heard.

Oh so now you're complaining about the animations, just because someone mentioned it. And the handling isn't terrible, it's just you.. maybe you play too much arcade games like NFS or something.

alloha
30-08-2006, 19:59
the bike handleing is totally rubbish! I was on a 4 lane road and it took me from the far left to the far right going at about 150mph ! That will be a mistake i will never make: "Buying a bike"!

mrman
30-08-2006, 20:10
why is evreybody sucking up? and ganging against people who have comments on the game, stop acting like kids with swearing and calling each other names. A forum is for debate, in opion the handling is terrible as is the animation, take motogp3 the animation on the bikes, is smooth and controlable. in tdu there seems to half the animation missing, either 12 ocock or 3 or nine oclock, it isnt right, stop being so sucky, no game is perfect, i am making my comments heard.

Sucking up to who? the TDU gods? You yell at us for attacking you while the majority just has a different opinion than you. you say a forum is a debate and isnt that exactly what everyone here has done. Debate your comment that the bikes and cars suck at handling realisitically. if you would take the time to get to know this forum you would realize how many people have comments and ideas for improvement and that many people consider this game amazing but not perfect.

dont attack people accusing them for attacking you when they are just giving their opinion as you complained they dont. dont be so backwards this is a happy forum. with happy posting trolls, we are. and monkeys that smoke cigarettes next to coke machines. dont forget that. :mefiant:

cambo211
30-08-2006, 20:23
At first on the demo i thought the handling was dreadful
i now realise that i was used to playing pgr3 which was more drifty
if you try and drive normally e.g. not driving at 160 round a corner
it works fine and in this way i find the game stunning

irR4tiOn4L
31-08-2006, 04:22
At first on the demo i thought the handling was dreadful
i now realise that i was used to playing pgr3 which was more drifty
if you try and drive normally e.g. not driving at 160 round a corner
it works fine and in this way i find the game stunning

encouraging comments. Tell me, does it remind you of Project Gotham 1?

I loved the way Project Gotham 1 was able to integrate simulation nuts (yours truly) and casual racers (practically all my friends) on the one track - theyd all pick F50s, i would take my favourite car (ussualy F360 or Exige) and off wed go. Theyd ride the walls, id apply proper techniques and the races were close and lively.

This was because PGR1 had a semi-realistic physics implementation - lots of hard to control wheelspin, realistic brake distances, and realistic cornering speeds - it was like an easy to drive simulation.

Unfortunately, PGR2 and 3 turned that around. Suddenly there was very little difficult to control wheelspin, brake distances were much shorter, and the cornering was worst of all - contrary to PGR1, you wouldnt fly off the track if you entered a corner too quick - instead, youd start to 'powerslide' and suddenly the car would find grip from nowhere.

It profoundly sucked - i couldnt get away with using an F360 against an F50, i had to stick to a car just two or three cars below what my friends were using. Unfortunately, that didnt leave much leeway for a 'handicap', and the car i had to use I would often dislike. Generally races now played out with me either winning by a mile if i chose a car a little too good, or losing by a mile if i picked a worse car.

Thats why im hoping TDU is more like PGR 1.

PlatinumNexus
01-09-2006, 08:53
How can you just be interested in this game just because of the bikes?

Got a huge tip for ya! If ya want a bike racing game get Moto GP because hardly any of the vehicles in this game r gonna b bikes..... the majority wud b cars and thats why im getting the game. And i agree on the point about Project Gotham Racing........ Its the 2nd one i love best caus of the evenness and really PGR3 just spoilt it by making all the cars FAST lol

My fav car is the Nissan 350z or the Mclaren F1 so looks like il love this game (except for the few problems the new demo has which ive posted on another thread)

Thats my 2 Cents :salut2:

diorbaby
01-09-2006, 13:30
i agree with people about knowing how to drive the car/bike.

it is possible for a AC 289 to beat a ferrari in an instant challenge, its hard work, but control it on the corners wih no driving aids on, while the ferrari is taking at 160+ he spins off, you carry on and it becomes a close race.

on the straights a different story. thats where strategy comes in, if its your layout on the race, pick corners on the route, and you stand a chance.

if you can master a cobra or mustang in the demo, you can drive/ride the vehicles with ease.

Jimster71
01-09-2006, 15:18
Going from PGR2 to Forza (with all assists off) was a big reality check in terms of driving a car at speed. Proper breaking distances, locking breaks, etc really teach you to drive 'properly'.

First thing I did with the demo was turn all of the assists off and I found it was a nice compromise between realistic and arcade. After all, it's a game and you learn to get the best out of the driving model you are given.

svtcobra04
01-09-2006, 22:21
Please sort the bikes animation and HANDLING you will lose half your buying customers if you dont, at the moment playing this game sucks. Drift Drift, totally unrealistic, who are you aiming this game at? why does it drift round even the slightest corner? sports bikes and sports car turn like they are on rails, none of this drift off to toher side of road, its laughable.

It could be amazing, totally amazing, but currently the handling sucks so bad, its not worth a purchase. Im a biker and i know its not a patch on anything near sim. Sorry, no fixy, no buy. This game has the potential to be a 10/10 but curently its grx over anything, 6/10

:nono:

Your stupid, go away no one cares if you dont like the game, and umm.... I have no idea what your talking about the cars "drifting" to much, as they slide a bit around the turns but maybe you should learn to use the real brakes and not the e-brake.

also...powersliding around a corner isnt drifting....

evsky
01-09-2006, 22:49
Please sort the bikes animation and HANDLING you will lose half your buying customers if you dont, at the moment playing this game sucks. Drift Drift, totally unrealistic, who are you aiming this game at? why does it drift round even the slightest corner? sports bikes and sports car turn like they are on rails, none of this drift off to toher side of road, its laughable.

It could be amazing, totally amazing, but currently the handling sucks so bad, its not worth a purchase. Im a biker and i know its not a patch on anything near sim. Sorry, no fixy, no buy. This game has the potential to be a 10/10 but curently its grx over anything, 6/10

:nono:

You are truly wrong, seriously the motorbike animation isnt great but the handling is as good as Moto GP in my view and cars do drift and cars dont go on rails....If you take a corner too fast and your cars tires lose grip it will slide and lose control, try going round a corner at say 50mph like a normal sports car would then you see that it doesnt drift, it may drift cos you take a turn at 190mph........

cambo211
01-09-2006, 23:44
bikes are there for me to race
that is their sole purpose

craigie22
02-09-2006, 03:10
Cars are for racing

Bikes are for off-roading cos the cars suck at this

evsky
02-09-2006, 14:56
Cars are for racing

Bikes are for off-roading cos the cars suck at this

Hmm, i am not sure if you have automotive knowledge at this point, Cars are tons better than bikes at off-roading, maybe in the game they are poo but in real life they is teh best. Anyway i would have really REALLY liked to have seen Supermoto's and Dirt Bikes in this game, when they go back on the road i could imagine mud tracks and stuff.....

F250GTO
02-09-2006, 17:29
Hmm, i am not sure if you have automotive knowledge at this point, Cars are tons better than bikes at off-roading, maybe in the game they are poo but in real life they is teh best. Anyway i would have really REALLY liked to have seen Supermoto's and Dirt Bikes in this game, when they go back on the road i could imagine mud tracks and stuff.....

Yes, that's a good idea. Scramblers would be good. Some 600cc desert bikes and the like.

Good to see a piece of toast on the forum too. I like toast.

alloha
02-09-2006, 21:55
I was just recently driving around on a bike and i hit a road speed barrier and I went at the height planes would fly at and when i pressed (RT)-accelarate I would move around in the sky at about 300mph!. I could still see online players and when i pressed the back button to reset me to the road, all it done was it set me to where I first apperared in the. sky! :hin: :atari: :mefiant:

craigie22
03-09-2006, 01:34
Hmm, i am not sure if you have automotive knowledge at this point, Cars are tons better than bikes at off-roading, maybe in the game they are poo but in real life they is teh best. Anyway i would have really REALLY liked to have seen Supermoto's and Dirt Bikes in this game, when they go back on the road i could imagine mud tracks and stuff.....
thats what i meant, in the game

Zachc8614
03-09-2006, 04:41
I was just recently driving around on a bike and i hit a road speed barrier and I went at the height planes would fly at and when i pressed (RT)-accelarate I would move around in the sky at about 300mph!. I could still see online players and when i pressed the back button to reset me to the road, all it done was it set me to where I first apperared in the. sky! :hin: :atari: :mefiant:
I belive its impossible to go 300 for te meter doesnt go that high so i dont quite belive our story.

mmmmmmmxxxxx444
06-09-2006, 04:09
I do believe him, as he said its a GLITCH so it is possible to go over the limit! I remember bak wen i used to play need for speeed most wanted on the xbx, there wuz a glitch where u get out of the world map and then all of sudden u fall through, and ur car goes like 500mph and spinning really fast, and it wuz really hard to stop it! So this GLITCH that has been just mentioned in TDU Demo lookz very close to the one i have experienced in Need For Speed Most Wanted