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jester6225
13-09-2006, 23:49
Hello all,
Could you tell me the official release date, as wherever i look it just says september 06, as its half over was curious if the date would be met, or is it the editions coming out on the 20/10/06.
yours enquiringly
jester
AS_Dodger
14-09-2006, 10:41
All the outlets I know of have the release as 20/10/06, so barring disaster that's when it'll be.
:)
don't believe in anything atari announces, and furthermore don't even look for official announcements - atari's skills in stealth and deception are maxed out! nwn1 was postponed several times, and just today they changed the release-date for the preorder-toolset...
tenebra_uk
16-09-2006, 14:46
That's nasty, Tanita tonguegre
As always there are target date for completion depending on development. I haven't received any new release schedule recently, I'll check on Monday to see where we are :)
yeah, it's nasty - sorry for that. but please, don't take it personal, at least you _are_ here, talking to us.
i admit i'm really pissed today because i was relying on the toolset becoming available tomorrow night (as advertised on http://www.atari.com/nwn2/presell.php) and now had to find a new counter telling me to wait until friday (http://www.atari.com/nwn2/presell/). i'm just glad i have not taken time off at work...
anyway, it's not that change of plan what gets me upset, it's the lack of information. to me bad news is better than no news at all.
Probably somebody just "stumbled upon the fact" that the promised release date was too short after the end of beta-testing.
And it's not as if that wasn't well-known for anybody else.
And, for the last few days they were step-by-step changing a second NWN-Presell website, already with the countdown pointing towrads Friday. But .. an official statement? Nope.
So, if they at some point received the message from Obsidian Entertaintment stating that they can't release the preorder toolset on September 17th, why didn't they immediately inform their customers, instead of levaing them puzzle about why there are two different websites, showing two different release dates for the toolset?
So, it is a mistake at least. One that should lead to an official statement saying "hey, sorry folks, we didn't make it on time and we kind of forgot about telling you".
Because, if that statement doesn't come, one could think that they knew for quite a while that Obsidian can't deliver the toolset one day after the end of betatesting. And, reading the pre-order package inlay saying that the toolset will be availabe for download one month before the official release of NWN 2 .. they don't fullfill their side of the contract. Doing so while knowing that one can't fullfill that contract ... well, you name it.
To sum it up: To say the least ... It's not a strong sign of competence. ;-)
P.S. And no, I wouldn't blame the people at Obsidian for this one.
tenebra_uk
16-09-2006, 17:16
I'm sorry guys, I know you need a hell lot more of info and support, unfortunately with TDU just out we're swamped with work (bear in mind that we're volunteers with full time jobs lightbulb ).
I'm going to try to re-distribute my time and chase a few things for you, and possibly get some people directly involved with the game from the delevelopment side to answer some of your questions. Not promising it'll happen, but I promise that I'll try to get them.
no one's going to blame the messenger for the news he brought... so do not fear, tenebra, we mean ya no harm. :p thanx for any news at all!
anyway... why can't obsidian just give us the beta toolset to start with? i'd rather have a look at the broken one now and then eagerly wait two more weeks for you to fix it than waiting one week with nothing in my hands but unkept promises and the vague hope it'll not be postponed again.
AS_Dodger
16-09-2006, 17:58
Whilst that's appreciated tenebra, it's never been info from the development side that's been the problem. The dev's are very active over on the official NWN2 boards, and whilst they don't answer absolutely everything, they do answer a lot.
It's generally the stuff where they say "that's an Atari issue, and out of our hands" that we have trouble receiving any info on.
EG - Game still have no idea (as of yesterday) about the presale. I have the LE preordered from Play.com (as it's the only place to get it). Will they have the presale also? Or will I have to pay an additional cost to get the toolset early? Retailers in the US, and Game (according to threewayswitch) are redeeming the presale cost against the actual box. Not happening with Play?
Is it right that somne get the cost redeemed, some don't?
As I type, there are TWO presale websites up, with differing availability details.
Amazon.de has it, Amazon.co.uk don't. Why?
Your point about being a volunteer is well taken, and no-one's pinning this on you.
But what excuse do the Atari employees have?
At least threewayswitch gave us SOME info. Can he dig up anything else?
Cheers
Edit:
@ tanita
Maybe they've found something like a non-obvious bug with the toolset in beta testing that will screw up modules when the release comes? Can you imagine the howls of protest if people spent 3-4 weeks on things they couldn't use?
reading the pre-order package inlay saying that the toolset will be availabe for download one month before the official release of NWN 2 .. they don't fullfill their side of the contract.
hmm... maybe nwn2 won't be out on october 18th as well, rendering that printed statement true again?! *g*
ok. enough grief for today. whenever it's out - i'm really looking forward to that day!
Maybe they've found something like a non-obvious bug with the toolset in beta testing that will screw up modules when the release comes? Can you imagine the howls of protest if people spent 3-4 weeks on things they couldn't use?
maybe. but that's the point: we're guessing. wouldn't have to, if they send word out about the reasons, would we? but even if it was that way they still could give us the beta toolset, i'm sure there's plenty to learn about it before working on our modules for good.
aphrodite1
16-09-2006, 18:52
two of my friends in the states got their toolset activation key so it apparently hasn't changed there.
huh? what do you mean by "activation key"? if you mean that eleven char key found in the presell box - well, actually that's about all we _have_ got. it's the toolset we lack...
our story is as follows:
in late august amazon.de announced a so-called "preorder pack" to be released on september 7th, stating that it would give access to the toolset (and some gimmicks). well, we got the packs shipped around september 8th, but it simply contained that xxx-xxxx-xxxx code on a card, telling us to go to www.nwn2.com/presell and enter the code to download the toolset. first, the url just sent you to www.atari.com, later it was auto-expanded to www.atari.com/nwn2/presell.php which shows/ed a clock counting down to september 18th. but as of today it leads to www.atari.com/nwn2/presell/, this time showing another clock now counting down to september 22nd (whilst the other pager still shows the other counter almost run out...).
so first it _looked_ as if we'd get the toolset around september 7th, about six weeks ahead of nwn2 - i was willing to pay 10 euro (plus shipping) for this. then our headstart was to shrink to one month. and now it's become even less... in the end what have i paid 13€ for?
ok, so at least now they deleted the misleading presell.php page...
no one's going to blame the messenger for the news he brought...
Tenebra's a She by the way lolblue:
BlackHawk01x
16-09-2006, 21:58
Have to agree a bit there with Tanita: As more the toolset-pre-release changes date in way to the full-release as more the people who paid 10€ just for getting it earlier gets a bad feeling I guess.. At least for me it is, since as lesser time lays between the pre-release-toolset and the fullversion as more I think I paid 10€ just for this "Merchant's Friend"-Item... which is a bit less if you ask me.
Well I still hope hearing one day from Atari-germany 'that' they really count the 10€ to the full version I preordered but so long: I still hope they not delay the date even more.
[edit]
Uhm... just in case I'm missunderstood: Not accusing anyone here especially not Tenebra, just Atari-germany a bit for being so silent *hides from slaps*
tenebra_uk
17-09-2006, 16:20
EG - Game still have no idea (as of yesterday) about the presale. I have the LE preordered from Play.com (as it's the only place to get it). Will they have the presale also? Or will I have to pay an additional cost to get the toolset early? Retailers in the US, and Game (according to threewayswitch) are redeeming the presale cost against the actual box. Not happening with Play?
Is it right that somne get the cost redeemed, some don't?
As I type, there are TWO presale websites up, with differing availability details.
Amazon.de has it, Amazon.co.uk don't. Why?
I'll have a chat with Product Management about this see if they can clarify.
no one's going to blame the messenger for the news he brought...Tenebra's a She by the way lolblue:
hehe, but the german noun "bote" (= messenger) is male and i translated the idiom literally. anyway, i couldn't care less about who's a he or a she around the boards or in irc, as long as s/he's gentle and polite.
tenebra_uk
17-09-2006, 17:11
Couldn't agree more, Tanita ;)
AS_Dodger
17-09-2006, 17:21
Anything would be welcomed tenebra, thanks :)
word's out (http://nwvault.ign.com/fullstory.php?id=21253) that the release date (full game) was again changed and now is said to be october 31st ?
tenebra_uk
19-09-2006, 15:12
I can't comment, there'll be an official announcement shortly.
BlackHawk01x
19-09-2006, 18:10
Well.. let's hope 'if' that is true (which I pray to be not *smiles*) that they not push the pre-release of toolset backwards again, too ... *goes back to hoping and praying* eekblue: :)
tenebra_uk
19-09-2006, 18:43
Ok, I can now deliver the bad news...
Release date postponed to 3rd November.
BlackHawk01x
19-09-2006, 20:03
Thanks for the Info, tenebra :)
Still: Ouchie eekblue: :cry:
Well let's hope it's not the same story like it was with NWN1 which was delayed about 6 months (if I remember right) with many many of these little steps eekblue:
bad news' better than no news at all.
and whilst i'd rather have an incomplete or buggy toolset yesterday instead of waiting 'til friday that's not true for the full game. the latter _has_ to be as clean and bug-free as possible. enthusiastic mod-builders will download gigabytes worth of updates for the toolset without any complaints, but "normal" gameplayers must get a finished product for their money.
AS_Dodger
20-09-2006, 00:32
There are apparently a couple of pretty serious bugs, which probably cropped up in the multiplayer & toolset beta tests. (source (http://nwn2forums.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=497796&forum=95) )
I agree - rather have it delayed a couple of weeks if it means they can sort this stuff out pre-release. The waiting is a killer though! Though (hopefully!) we will at least have the toolset to play with. I say hopefully, cos, you know... :mefiant:
i hope they won't stick to their "toolset one month before game" promise too closely! i can hardly stand 33 more hours, having to wait 'til october 3rd would kill me - or at least change my plans for the upcoming weekend ;-)
Venturing a guess, many countries will still get the game on october 31.
In the UK there is a 'gentelman's agreement' in place on new releases so that they are only ever put on shelves on a friday. It is in place to stop the mad rush to put boxes on shelves as soon as they arrive from distribution , which leads to stores that get the product a little late loosing out on sales.
A couple of days doesn't really matter, but if you are not in the UK I would expect it on the 31st (as long as dates dont change).
Lorft
BlackHawk01x
21-09-2006, 13:45
Well... we can be happy at least that computergames have something like worldwide-releases :)
Not likes some console-games which needs about 1 year (of delay I mean) to reach europe *nods*
Well.. timer of toolset stands on about 10:20hours now *dances* hope they not make the mean joke to add a few days when the timer shows 5minutes tonguegre
*hides* :rolleyes:
tenebra_uk
21-09-2006, 14:05
News for Atari - and it's good news for once!
Atari have received confirmation that the toolset pre-order will be available instore at GAME tomorrow. A nominal charge will be asked for the pre-order which will be taken off the final purchase (so don't throw your receipt away tonguegre ). You will receive a DVD box with a leaflet containing a key code for the toolset and in-game item download. The toolset will be available to download from tomorrow :)
so that _exact_ the same as in germany (except the infamous fan-site-kit dvd), and even at the same time, almost.
well done, atari!
9 hours to go...
NWNmaster
30-09-2006, 08:43
News for Atari - and it's good news for once!
Atari have received confirmation that the toolset pre-order will be available instore at GAME tomorrow. A nominal charge will be asked for the pre-order which will be taken off the final purchase (so don't throw your receipt away tonguegre ). You will receive a DVD box with a leaflet containing a key code for the toolset and in-game item download. The toolset will be available to download from tomorrow :)Any news on this? I have pre ordered on the game website and tried to email them about when we will get our codes as there is only 16 hours to go at the time of writing....
So far nothing from GAME :(
I bought the presell in a shop last week, I think it might be just about the presell. Pre-order isn't exactly the same (though with a presell you kinda pre-order), but I'm not too sure how it works for the online buyers.
I've preferred getting things from stores over ordering things online, but that might just be me.
NWNmaster
30-09-2006, 11:14
I bought the presell in a shop last week, I think it might be just about the presell. Pre-order isn't exactly the same (though with a presell you kinda pre-order), but I'm not too sure how it works for the online buyers.
I've preferred getting things from stores over ordering things online, but that might just be me.Thanks for the reply, I did order online and it does say get access to the Toolset 1st :D
But heard nothing since :(
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