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Crazed_Dodgem

27-10-2006, 21:26

Joysticks: PS3 is The One to Watch
Friday 27-Oct-2006 3:10 PM Gamers vote Sony's next-gen console as The One to Watch for 2007
We've got two announcements hot from the glitzy Golden Joystick Awards ceremony; we've managed to get a drink refill and the PlayStation 3 has been voted as The One to Watch for 2007.

With massive titles like Metal Gear Solid 4 hitting the PS3 in the next 12 months, it's unsurprising that you lot are excited to see what goes down on Sony's third piece of hardware. We'll certainly be keeping a keen eye on over the next year.

Look for plenty more on Sony's slick PS3 in the next few weeks running up to US launch.

source http://www.goldenjoystick.com/

sorry, but why are we watching a console:

that costs £500
is not innovative
is delayed till march
that bombed in E3
is greatly overshadowed by wii in all aspects bar horsepower
that looks like a george foreman grill.

NWATA

27-10-2006, 21:28

source http://www.goldenjoystick.com/

sorry, but why are we watching a console:

that costs £500
is not innovative
is delayed till march
that bombed in E3
is greatly overshadowed by wii in all aspects bar horsepower
that looks like a george foreman grill.

weirdblue Nuff said, PS3 has nothing on any of it's competetors

Crazed_Dodgem

27-10-2006, 21:39

i would go for one of the other ones.

xbox360 gets me exited for next year because of Halo 3 and Forza
wii gets me exited because it is *-bleep-*ing innovative and looks so damn sleek, and i love the classic games aswell!
PS3 doesnt do anything for me other than make me think about digging a 40ft trench in the bottom of my pocket :p

Diablo_

27-10-2006, 21:50

PS3 appeals to me because of the definite support of the Logitech G25, MGS4, GT5 as well as HD movies direct from the unit itself. I don't like this microtransactions from Sony or Microsoft though and will not be buying any game that is a disc and manual only and then having to pay for the rest. Sony are top just now but with their arrogant ways and appaling treatment of europe they might falling down sharply just like Nintendo did all those years ago when it was king of the hill.

Halo 3 does not excite me at all, I've not even played 1 or 2. Forza 2 does appeal to me but the lack of support for other Force Feedback wheels apart from MS's own is a step backwards imo.

The next 12 months will be very interesting indeed and I sure hope too see Nintendo climbing backup making others work on originality and creativity and not the EA approach of mass-production of abysmal rubbish annually.

Sony better have something special for those in Europe, as we will not wait for a Lean Mean Grilling Machine.

the_gaming_guy

27-10-2006, 23:17

craigie22

27-10-2006, 23:40

No good racing games. Not worth buying for me......(BAR GTHD)

Can't justify the price and the Bluray player is useless to me on my 21" CRT.

So F Sony, I'm with Microsoft (WII RULES too)

PS. It's

http://www.soaringpanda.com/gelblog/archives/orly.jpeg
they have a Wii section of Virgin Megastores in Milton Keynes mdr1

and they are selling Blu-Ray disks in John Lewis, they are put behind the counter cos it would cot too much if they got nicked lolblue:

the_gaming_guy

27-10-2006, 23:42

they have a Wii section of Virgin Megastores in Milton Keynes mdr1

and they are selling Blu-Ray disks in John Lewis, they are put behind the counter cos it would cot too much if they got nicked lolblue:

Is there a playable Wii? eekblue:

Eagle_Legend

27-10-2006, 23:43

PS3 just isn't a worthy competetor for the 360, just because of live, live totally owns sony and their sorry """"

Crazed_Dodgem

27-10-2006, 23:58

there is enough [-bleep-] on xbox live, making it free and putting it on playstation is an instant way of increasing the chav population on the internet. and chavs do not make online fun.

Grigor626

28-10-2006, 00:44

Gotmaxpower

28-10-2006, 00:52

dont get your arguement, you didnt make sense, plus, most people here already have an xbox 360 so why get the ps3 aswell..

:respect:

edit - oh i understand you now, but if you think about it, most people already have xbox 360s so -

ps3 $600

xbox 360 $400 (which you already have, so that wipes out of the equation)

the extras for xbox $350

so --

because you already have the xbox, its $750 - $400 = $350

why pay for something that is $600 when you can just get it all for $350, almost half the price.

Crazed_Dodgem

28-10-2006, 01:18

WHY this conversation again?? PS3 is BETTER than Xbox-360. Do I have to repeat it again?

PS3 costs 600 USD Xbox costs 400 USD.
__________________________________________________ _______________
one nil xbox
__________________________________________________ _______________

PS3 includes HD DVD(Bluray) Xbox is going to release HD DVD
for 200 USD.
__________________________________________________ _______________
i dont have Hi-def. i have no plans to get hi-def i have no need for a hi-def player, what is more is that if the bluray format fails then you are stuck with an obsolete format, atleast you have a choice with 360, and the cost of the player may have dropped by the time i do get hi-def

two nil xbox
__________________________________________________ _______________
PS3 includes WiiFi signals. Xbox is going to release WiiFi for
100 USD.
__________________________________________________ _______________
two one xbox
__________________________________________________ _______________
PS3 includes motion-detecting Xbox is goiing to release it for $50
controllers.
__________________________________________________ _______________
360 has 'Rumbling' controllers,

i call that a draw, Three two xbox______________________________________________ ___________________
PS3 has free internet use. (Not the Xbox Has Xbox live that costs 60
same as PS2 online. It's the same type USD a year.
as Xbox Live with downloads)
__________________________________________________ _______________
yay, more useless scum gaming online! fun for all, i would rather pay for a chav free service thankyou very much. yes, its free, but its also filled with chavs

another draw, four three xbox______________________________________________ ___________________
Same graphics as Xbox 360 Same graphics as PS3
__________________________________________________ _______________
xbox has the same graphics for substancially less

five three xbox______________________________________________ ___________________
PS3 TOTAL: $600 Xbox 360 TOTAL:Over $750 + Live.
__________________________________________________ _______________
if you buy evrything for 360 then yes. if you dont then its no. i wont be buying a HD-DVD attatchment, thats $200 dollars right? that makes $550 for 360. from a hardware aspect the PS3 has the upper hand, but its not hardware, its a games machine, and its ability to play games is the most influencial factor. price wise,

i call the draw on value for money, six four xbox
__________________________________________________ _______________

Thank You

my category!

games

xbox has allready got a huge collection of games built over the last year, loads of exclusives out, and even more lined up for release within the next year. Halo 3 anybody? Forza 2? oh, xbox has TDU aswell!

NWATA

28-10-2006, 01:32

Apperently games look better on XBOX than they do on PS3, the PS3 IGN guy admitted it :salut2: Watch episode 29 http://uk.media.games.ign.com/articles/693/693580/vids_1.html

Diablo_

28-10-2006, 02:21

Apperently games look better on XBOX than they do on PS3, the PS3 IGN guy admitted it :salut2: Watch episode 29 http://uk.media.games.ign.com/articles/693/693580/vids_1.html
Countless people have said the same thing about PS3 games against 360 so take it with a grain of salt.

Baxie

28-10-2006, 02:36

Heh.

I've always been a huge PS fan. (It's testimony to Atari and TDU, that this game is the reason I changed.)

However, there are a lot of things with the PS3 that worries me. And none of them has anything to do with hardware specs, as the PS3 when fully exploited will bury anything else out there.

As for the PS - Wii battle. Innovation is fun, but unless they are able to dig up some popular titles and have some serious contenders on fight, race and sportsscene the console will end as a novelty item more than anything else. It might be fun to rid a bumper car, but you'll want a real one for everyday use.

The specs on the PS with the Core technology is apparantly very powerful. Games that are being made right now will not be comparable with the games that are released in a year, so untill I see a game that truly utilizes the PS3, I'll stay out of this area.

So the issues that worries me is launch and BluRay.

Launch has been postponed. A lot of places you can read, that the planned amount of consoles to hit Europe wont even fill the preorders. This worries me. But then again, I have never bought a console (Have had: PS, PS2 and now the 360) in it's first year, as they are going to be bugridden due to testing in labs is one thing, testing in the real world another completely. So for me, that would mean, that I might look into the PS3 in march 2008. Which sort of negates the worries concerning launch.

However. BluRay scares the bejeezers out of me. I had a PSP and the UMD-format was great as the size made it easy to carry around. The protective case ensure it wouldn't be scratched. But the fact that Sony and only Sony could produce them, through patents and what not, they ended up shooting themselves in the foot as moviecompanies wouldn't want to pay Sony a certain amount of dollars to produce their line of movies, only to have Sony earn more on the distribution. This has lead to the near extinction that UMD has suffered in the movie industry.

I honestly believe that BluRay will result in the same problems.

Another thing is, that with a patented mediaformat like BluRay you will end up with no chance of pirated material. This makes the console unappealing to a lot of users. Your average gamer will have a majority of pirated games, that allows them to play games, they normally wouldn't pay 70 euros for. But they also have a small collection of desirable games, that they know they will be playing a lot, so they want a manual and a decent disc. And they get the console obviously.

These losses, while unlawful and what not, are one of the things that made the first PS victorious in a world of consoles. You couldn't pirat games for most of the first generation consoles due to formats, but the PS took CDs, which you could burn yourself if you had a computer. So when choosing your format, you knew that you could get either console X with stick-games or a PS where you could quickly get a lot of games for very little money. That made the PS more appealing. Over the years the PS has beaten everything else but the Xbox without breaking a sweat. The Xbox isn't beaten, but it never beat the PS2. So that was a draw. With favors to the PS. Sony still sits on a majority of marketshares worldwide. And when the PS3 hits, most console gamers will watch it carefully.

And that's where Sony bungled it up again. It's been a year since the 360 came out. It's gonna be at least six more months before the PS comes to Europe. That's way too long and they WILL loose marketshares. But as is, they are still the thing to watch and with a VERY loyal audience for titles like Gran Turismo, Final Fantasy and Tekken, it'll be interesting to see how our little white friend will fare in the war.

If they stick to their guns on the free online gaming, I think M$ will have to reevaluate the cost of Xbox Gold.

NutsAndy007

28-10-2006, 07:14

Baxie, you raised some points i didnt think of there, thanks... eekblue:

I have always been a big fan of the sony consoles, but got a little angry after managing to kill 3 ps2's in 4 years... so got an xbox and it just keeps going and going, like the energiser bunny. but the time came that i thought i needed something for my new HD tv.

So i bought the 360 and instead of retiring my xbox, i retired my dvd player. The reason for that is that after pausing a movie, every dvd player ive had plays for a second, stops while spinning the disc up to speed again then plays, but the xbox doesnt, so its better than the ps2/dvd players that ive seen.

Anyway, back on subject - I was waiting for the PS3 to come out to update my console because sony have always had first dibbs on the GTA series of games, but now they dont have that advantage, what is there to wait for?

Blu-ray - Great... another disc that i can't backup to keep the origional scratch free

WiFi - i can buy that for the 360, but whats the point? its already got wires poking out the back of it, it might aswell have another that wont decide to suddenly stop working at 3AM on a friday night like a wireless one sometimes does

George Foreman - :laugh: Loved that bit by the way... But, as weve already found out, the 360 is perfectly capable of helping you cook things anyway

So, yeah. Nothing is going to stand out for me from it, and if you look at how well microsoft followed up their first xbox, i would say that once the ps3 is out microsoft will have been able to design and produce a newwer console with much more to offer.

"Hi, We're Sony, And this is our Lean, Mean, Bank balance reducing machine!"
"We're so proud of it, we err, errr, ermmm, took a decade to release it"

FordGTGuy

28-10-2006, 07:59

WHY this conversation again?? PS3 is BETTER than Xbox-360. Do I have to repeat it again?

PS3 costs $600. Xbox 360 costs $400

PS3 includes HD DVD player (Bluray) while Xbox is gong to release it for $200.

PS3 includes WIIFi internet signals while Xbox is again releasing it for $100.

PS3 includes motion detecting controllers while Xbox is AGAIN releasing it for $50.

PS3 has free online play (not the same as PS2. They changed it. It's next gen just like Xbox live where u can download content) while it's $60 a year for Xbox live.

Their both the same graphics.

TOTAL for PS3: $600.
TOTAL for Xbox 360: $750 PLUS Xbox Live.

Thank You.

Xbox 360: 400$
HD-DVD(not needed to play games)
WiFi(is already built into the 360)
Motion Sensor Controller(yet to be confirmed or needed to play games)
Xbox Live(Optional but the I'd rather pay 50$ a year for something I know will be good then get something I know nothing about(PS3 Live)

PS3: 600$
PS3 Live(Even if free online multiplayer developers can still charge for playing their own games seperate and games friends list and logins aren't unified like xbox live)

KoenigViper

28-10-2006, 08:09

Baxie

28-10-2006, 08:25

Can a mod just close this? All it will live to is a bunch of pre-mature teens arguing about consoles and showing whose the X360 fanboys.....

BTW leighton, I can't believe you know whose playing on Sony's online when the PS3 hasn't even been released. rolleyesa

Heh. Why does favouring one product to another automatically result in the tag: 'Fanboy'?

It is a perfectly legitimate topic for discussion, though it might've been better placed in the off-topic category, but since a large section of the people in here, are console owners, the subject of the PS3 arrival will be relevant to a lot of us.

I for one will contemplate getting one, when they have ironed out the first buggy batch. And if I can learn something that I didn't by coming here, then that will help me towards that end.

You do however have a perfectly valid point concerning the arguments used in this discussion. Guessin and presuming isn't a very good way to raise points here. Some people will misinterpret it as facts and spread them.

I've yet to see anything confirmed on pricing and content of the Online part of the PS3, but one thing we can be pretty sure of: The people at Sony doing that part, aren't idiots. They will have taken a peak at the way MS did it, and they will utilize the best bits. And while every game developer isn't a Sony subsidiary, it would be logical is their online bit, like Microsofts, went through Sony for updates and friends lists and what not. But now even I am moving out into the world of 'maybes' and 'supposedlys', so I'll stop before I dig myself into a further hole.

I'll just say this: The article isn't lying. It *IS* the console to watch. Whether or not it will big a huge letdown or the revolutionary new console out there remains to be seen.

craigie22

28-10-2006, 12:21

The lineup of games for the 360 is soo much better than the PS3 lineup

i will not buy a PS3 until there is a game that i really want

for example. I bought the 360 just for Halo

DRIVEITLIKEUSTOLEIT

28-10-2006, 13:08

The PS3 has no unique ideas they ripped off xbox live (view my gamercard), robbed the achievment thing and mugged the wii's control thing (can't remember exactly).

Yet you can still buy a 360 and wii for £460- only £35 more than a ps3!

the_gaming_guy

28-10-2006, 13:32

craigie22

28-10-2006, 13:37

koenigvipe likes to have goes at people

makes him feel special rolleyesa

the_gaming_guy

28-10-2006, 13:44

koenigvipe likes to have goes at people

makes him feel special rolleyesa

Don't start........ sour:

PLEASE GUYS STOP THE MADNESS. rolleyesa

DRIVEITLIKEUSTOLEIT

28-10-2006, 13:44

[QUOTE=FordGTGuy]
WiFi(is already built into the 360)[QUOTE]

You have to pay extra for a wireless bridge

Grigor626

28-10-2006, 22:54

Aight guys. I totally agree with each and every one of you. I do agree that the Xbox dvd player is better than the PS2's. Every time I want to watch a Dvd, it gets dark and light every 5 seconds. WTF? And you really don't have to use the WiiFi if u don't want for the Ps3. Like not working at 3am. You can use the wires too. So no big deal. And PS3's online play offers 40 players to play at once. More than any other system. And I agree with Baxie. And the PS3 doesnt only support Blu-Ray so if the dvds fail, it will still read normal dvds. And I really don't think the graphics for the Xbox are any better. I really can't tell the difference. But I still have alot of friends that are saving up for a 360 but after knowing the prices for the PS3 and 360, their going towards the PS3, this doesn't go to the 360 owners right now. But watch the video that says "Weekly @ PS3 Preview Event (October 24, 2006)"
http://uk.media.games.ign.com/articles/693/693580/vids_1.html

Look at the graphics for Gran Turismo HD for PS3:
http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=11&pos=6
http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=11&pos=1
http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=11&pos=5
http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=5&pos=68
http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=5&pos=79

And also watch this:
http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/movie/index.do?id=385
Thank You.

KoenigViper

29-10-2006, 08:15

koenigvipe likes to have goes at people

makes him feel special rolleyesa
Ah, children and their childish remarks. rolleyesa
Grow up.
Heh. Why does favouring one product to another automatically result in the tag: 'Fanboy'?

It is a perfectly legitimate topic for discussion, though it might've been better placed in the off-topic category, but since a large section of the people in here, are console owners, the subject of the PS3 arrival will be relevant to a lot of us.

I only make that statement because the previous posts before mine show the X360 fanboyness some of our more pre-mature members have.

It is a perfectly legitmate discussion, yes, but not with the members who have been posting. I myself, will wait til probably 2008 for a PS3.
Don't have a go at Leighton when he hasn't even posted in this thread..... :nono: rolleyesa

Anyway, if you buy the PS3, it's your choice, if you don't, then you don't.

Concluded.

:respect:
Fine, my apologies. I meant Lwsbrck whose seems to know everything about PS3 online when it isn't out.

That's fine and dandy to buy it out of your choice, but it's not a reason for lswbrck to make statements on the console that require it being out when it isn't.

Crazed_Dodgem

29-10-2006, 10:36

craigie22

29-10-2006, 12:58

im not saying that the online will be [-bleep-] but i am saying that the idiots in this country have a loyalty to playstations. anyone who has xbox or gamecube = geek to them so they are likely to go to PS3 because of simple brand loyalty. If the service is completely free then the idiots are free to come online and cause havok as they wish. if they had to pay then i doubt they would come online. do you think that chavs would smash windows if they were forced to pay for the window beforehand.

put it like this: do you think that maric.burton fellow would have come on here and posted varios images of penises if he had to pay to access the forums?
he has got a point

you are in the US so you dont know how the UK market reacts but about 95% of everyone in the UK have a Playstation

About 30% (i dunno) of people in the UK are chavs/townies/homies lol

The chavs will still be with Playstation as the online bit is free. In all my time of the 360 i have found on chav on Xbox Live and he was playing at his mates house.

Chavs like things to be free (weither they are meant to be or not ;) if you know what i mean) and so they will go to the Playstation filling our mics with 'innit brov' and 'wat do u lot smoke?' <= i've had that question on XBL then got called a teachers pet when i said that i havent smoked

thats what hes saying

and in my opinion he has a point. I dont want to spend £600 on a console then get hurled with abusive chavs online

Baxie

29-10-2006, 15:15

This is still guessing what will happen.

And going online only to experience abuse is a growing industry. Pretty much every MMO has it's share of kids shouting at you.

One more thing to keep in the back of your mind is, that while 30% of the Brits are chavs, you are still a very small segment of the worldwide console players.

spike_eddy

29-10-2006, 15:22

I think with the percentage Sony want for just about anything on Blue Ray it is likely to go the same way as Sony's Betamax did most of the industry said it was better than VHS but with the extra associated costs it became obsolete.
Just as I expect Blue Ray will and saying the PS3 can play standard dvd's wont cut it, you can buy a standard dvd player for £20. The industry is going HD so standard dvd will be out of date!

KoenigViper

30-10-2006, 01:40

im not saying that the online will be [-bleep-] but i am saying that the idiots in this country have a loyalty to playstations. anyone who has xbox or gamecube = geek to them so they are likely to go to PS3 because of simple brand loyalty. If the service is completely free then the idiots are free to come online and cause havok as they wish. if they had to pay then i doubt they would come online. do you think that chavs would smash windows if they were forced to pay for the window beforehand.

put it like this: do you think that maric.burton fellow would have come on here and posted varios images of penises if he had to pay to access the forums?
So...your experiences with Sony in your country make it a fact for everyone else?

You logic is just so completely ridiculous. Chavs only go to free online service is what you're basically saying, which is sooo very untrue as they are everywhere.

Geek to everyone is the same.
Xbox owners think Nintendo and Sony fans are geeks.
Sony owners think Nintendo and Xbox fans are geeks.
Nintendo owners think Xbox and Sony fans are geeks.

It doesn't matter. All I'm seeing is you making assumptions about the PS3's online capabilities when it has never been used by anyone yet besides Sony.

BTW, you're deal with online chavs and pricing is also actually stupid.

PS3=$600.
X360 with 1 year live=$450. Equal that to a Sony.
Xbox 360 with 4 years of Live=$600.
The fact that X360 has been out for almost a year probably helps the fact that your "chavs" who are PS3 lovers probably have X360s.

Oh, and I want to see how you can tell how Chavs are Sony lovers and that 30% of your country are chavs.

Grigor626

30-10-2006, 05:50

So...your experiences with Sony in your country make it a fact for everyone else?

You logic is just so completely ridiculous. Chavs only go to free online service is what you're basically saying, which is sooo very untrue as they are everywhere.

Geek to everyone is the same.
Xbox owners think Nintendo and Sony fans are geeks.
Sony owners think Nintendo and Xbox fans are geeks.
Nintendo owners think Xbox and Sony fans are geeks.

It doesn't matter. All I'm seeing is you making assumptions about the PS3's online capabilities when it has never been used by anyone yet besides Sony.

BTW, you're deal with online chavs and pricing is also actually stupid.

PS3=$600.
X360 with 1 year live=$450. Equal that to a Sony.
Xbox 360 with 4 years of Live=$600.
The fact that X360 has been out for almost a year probably helps the fact that your "chavs" who are PS3 lovers probably have X360s.

Oh, and I want to see how you can tell how Chavs are Sony lovers and that 30% of your country are chavs.

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!!

Crazed_Dodgem

30-10-2006, 11:11

well take my school year group for example then.

about 200 people in my yeargroup

20% are hardcore chavs (lacoste, burberry hat, white trainers, A.S.B.O.s, smoke like a chimney and drink like a fish)
30% are the assosiated bunch, those that hang around in the big bunch with the chavs, but fade into the background, but still throw abuse and try to act 'hard'
about 30% are the goths/emos they dress kinda weird and their music is awful, but none of them try to act as if they could eat coal and poop out diamonds

leaving 20% for the rest of us, those that wear blue jeans and a plain t-shirt. most of us have 360s or are getting one for christmas. as it stands there is about 10 360s in my yeargroup. only one belongs to a chav, and hes just an assosiated. all of them spend their science lessons saying how they are going to get a PS3.

practically everyone had a PS2, say 95%.. about 1/4 of everyone has xbox, and most of the xbox owners have ps2s aswell and most of the xbox owners are those that dont go with the chavs or goths...

considering that one xbox has been sold to a chav then i would guess they will get a PS3

the_gaming_guy

30-10-2006, 11:14

well take my school year group for example then.

about 200 people in my yeargroup

20% are hardcore chavs (lacoste, burberry hat, white trainers, A.S.B.O.s, smoke like a chimney and drink like a fish)
30% are the assosiated bunch, those that hang around in the big bunch with the chavs, but fade into the background, but still throw abuse and try to act 'hard'
about 30% are the goths/emos they dress kinda weird and their music is awful, but none of them try to act as if they could eat coal and poop out diamonds

leaving 20% for the rest of us, those that wear blue jeans and a plain t-shirt. most of us have 360s or are getting one for christmas. as it stands there is about 10 360s in my yeargroup. only one belongs to a chav, and hes just an assosiated. all of them spend their science lessons saying how they are going to get a PS3.

practically everyone had a PS2, say 95%.. about 1/4 of everyone has xbox, and most of the xbox owners have ps2s aswell...

considering that one xbox has been sold to a chav then i would guess they will get a PS3

I had a PS2....mainly 'cos of Gran Turismo 3.....

And I see what you're saying - the same is true in my year - everyone dodgy in my year only seem to know of the PS3...but it's not really a secure arguement. The same may be untrue of America or indeed, any other nation, so I guess this arguement is invalidated......

the_gaming_guy

30-10-2006, 11:17

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=14246

Let this article entice you.

Baxie

30-10-2006, 11:26

For those of us, living outside the UK and who doesn't have a clue, what a Chav is: This is a chav (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavs)

Crazed_Dodgem

30-10-2006, 11:47

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=14246

Let this article entice you.

interesting article, i notice they didnt say that nintendo did dominate 2 generations and failed on the third (nes, snes, and N64 (the failure))

i still see extra hardware not extra games fun though, i mean a games console is dependant on its gaming abilities. if i can still get the same gaming abilities for less then i'll pay less. i still dont have an objection to paying for online.

Baxie

30-10-2006, 11:51

i still see extra hardware not extra games fun though, i mean a games console is dependant on its gaming abilities. if i can still get the same gaming abilities for less then i'll pay less. i still dont have an objection to paying for online.

As it should be. But why then has the concept of chavs online become a factor?

In the end it'll be a matter of which console has the greatest game-selection.

You don't buy a machine, that is more powerful than everything else and you're stuck playing 'Pong'.

boringname

30-10-2006, 12:07

A few things not mentioned about PS3 are:
1. Blue-ray will be used to store upto 50Gb of GAME on a disc if developers what to, not restricted to 9Gb like XBOX 360. This gives developers more freedom(they filled a 9Gb disc for GTA:SA on PS2). XBOX HD add-on will not be for games only movies.
2. Every PS3 has a hard-drive unlike XBOX 360, and again give developers a choose to use this for loading the games.

If Blue-ray fails in the Movie side of things you will not be left with a redundent format because they will be still using it for the games of which can be 5 times bigger that XBOX 360.

I do not have a HDTV, I dont care for watching HD movies, it is the GAMES I buy a games console for and PS3 has more flexability then XBOX360 to produce better games.

And it costs £425 not £500 pounds as first statement said. Very easy just to make stuff up to bolster up your arguement.

I am not a fanboy of either console and at minute have XBOX 360 purely for Test Drive game, but come march I will trade in in for PS3 because I believe it will be the better console in the end.

And as for all this chav rubbish, next you will be saying ' Only smelly people buy PS3'. That is not a valid point to any arguement at all.

dj_faceplant

30-10-2006, 12:52

It's simple.. You either like the PS3 or you don't.. I've been gaming for abuot 27 years, and there is no way i'm not going to be buying the PS3.. I've been playing on playstations for what, 11 years now? That's a little longer than i've been enjoying the XBox.. Which in all fairness had Halo.. That was the only reason i bought the machine.

I've bought a 360 because i'm a gamer and i'm looking forward to Halo 3. I'm also looking forward to Killzone too.. Regardless of the footage that been floating around and that it's not in-game, blah blah blah.. But look at what Guerilla squeezed out of the PS2 to make the first killzone. It was lag free online and pushed the machine graphically to stand up against anything else at the time. Also, it had a lot more than a poxy 16 players.. 16? FFS Microsoft, free up some god damned bandwidth you stingy *******s.. I want at least 32 players in a match where guns are involved.. Halo 3 had better support more than 16 players or i will be considering not buying it.. And yes i understand about graphics and all that jazz, it's what I do for a living being a Lead Designer for a games company.

So, it's a matter of what games you want to play, and which system you like. I can't believe people are critisising a machine that hasn't even been launched yet.. I'd like to know what makes all these people bloody experts on something they've never even seen.

Me? I'm going to wait til the ting touches down, then i'll buy it, take it home, set it up and play on it for a good while. THEN i'll feel qualified to make a judgement on it.. Why don't you all do the same.. :D Of course, you could al prove me wrong and exibit what a brainless moron you are by continuing to slag off something you have absolutle no idea about except how much it costs..

Anyone agree with me on this one?

Peace

craigie22

30-10-2006, 12:56

And as for all this chav rubbish, next you will be saying ' Only smelly people buy PS3'. That is not a valid point to any arguement at all.
but i am just saying that everyone in my school wants a PS3 and i am one of the only people in my whole year (200 people) that has a 360. Everyone else is waiting out for the PS3

dj_faceplant

30-10-2006, 12:59

but i am just saying that everyone in my school wants a PS3 and i am one of the only people in my whole year (200 people) that has a 360. Everyone else is waiting out for the PS3

FYI, i think most console owners are now older than kiddies at school.. The people buying the PS3 are going to be older and have jobs and therefore can afford it..

Another point of view to consider.. It's going to be a more mature player for a while on PS3 i reckon...

the_gaming_guy

30-10-2006, 13:47

FYI, i think most console owners are now older than kiddies at school.. The people buying the PS3 are going to be older and have jobs and therefore can afford it..

Another point of view to consider.. It's going to be a more mature player for a while on PS3 i reckon...

I must confess, if I was 20-something, I'd probably buy a 360, Wii and a ps3.....

dj_faceplant

30-10-2006, 13:51

I must confess, if I was 20-something, I'd probably buy a 360, Wii and a ps3.....

20 something? Not anymore.. just rolled into the 30 somethings here.. :cry:

Baxie

30-10-2006, 13:52

but i am just saying that everyone in my school wants a PS3 and i am one of the only people in my whole year (200 people) that has a 360. Everyone else is waiting out for the PS3

One more ting to remember is that of all the 200 people in your year. If 50 (Half of the male population) wants a PS3 and only you will settle for the Xbox 360, then where do you think that games development will turn?

I am also looking forward to the PS3 and will make my decision when it finally hits the shelves and I will be able to buy one, instead of just watch the sign saying: Sorry. No PS3's in stock. Try in another six months!

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NinjaSix

30-10-2006, 13:54

I've owned a ps1 and a ps2, and I love the games that have come out on it. I also bought a second hand xbox, and now a 360 which I bought a few months ago. I've bought far fewer games for these machines due to several reasons:

I haven't finished all my ps2 games yet.
With the exception of Halo, the Sony-exclusive games appealed to me more (at the time these were Wipeout, Tomb Raider, Gran Turismo, GTA).
I don't like the xbox controllers as much. (The 360 controllers are far better, with the LB and RB buttons instead of those awful black and white ones).
360 games are far too expensive.

However, after buying the xbox, if a game appeared in both platforms, I'd tend to buy the xbox version (e.g. Splinter Cell), because the graphics and sound (gameplay being equal) would be better.

The 360 has introduced new concepts which confuse things. XBox Live is astoundingly good (I didn't use it on the original xbox, just the 360), and with it, the ability to download game demos and make an informed choice about which games to buy. This is a killer advantage for me, considering the second concept I'm thinking of, which is yet another hike in the price of games. Surely anyone with Live who has any intelligence will download the demo of a game before parting with the cash. Any game that doesn't provide a demo just doesn't get bought.

Test Drive Unlimited adds another complication - my addiction to this game is going to be very hard to break. If I want to play a game these days, it's always TDU. It's an even more pronounced effect than GTA had on me. Why buy another console, when I have TDU?

The PS2 is the only console I bought on launch day. I don't regret it, but I'm now mature enough to not believe the hype. I can continue enjoying the games I own and wait for the new consoles and games to come down in price. This also gives me the benefit of avoiding any flops.

So the PS3 has some hurdles to overcome if Sony wants me to buy it:

Games *must* be preceded with downloadable demos.
Games *must* be no more expensive than 360 games.
Sony *have* to make the online experience at least as good as Live.
The controllers *have* to be as ergonomic as the 360's.
There *has* to be more than one killer exclusive game for it.

Even then, it'll probably be 6 months to a year after launch that I buy one.

Crazed_Dodgem

30-10-2006, 14:02

And it costs £425 not £500 pounds as first statement said. Very easy just to make stuff up to bolster up your arguement.

If you order from an online store then you might be lucky and get £425, but look at the 360's launch, nowhere on the highstreet could you pick up a 360 for the £270 or £208 r.r.p. usually the core would fetch around £260 and the premium about £350 and then if you looked on ebay you could see premiums selling for as much as £700.

now consider the PS3, much more widely anticipated, and allready much more expensive, then add what people will pay at the highstreet - easily £500 - then ebay - possibly talking thousands...

the_gaming_guy

30-10-2006, 14:04

Here's how I chose the 360 over the PS3:

September 2005: Test Drive was announced several months back, my 14th birthday.

Q1) Should I get a PSP or should I take the money and buy a 360 3 months later?

At the time, no one knew anything about the PS3 except that it was to be released in SPRING 06..... rolleyesa

Anyway, Q2) Should I take the money and get a PS3?

I said to myself, "Hmm....this is a tough one. I only really like racing games, and games like GTA."

At the time, I knew that PS3 = Vision:GT, Motorstorm, GTA4 and The Getaway

The 360 had TDU, Forza 2, Saints Row, Fifa 07 and so on.....

In the end, I decided to wait for E3 06 to see which was better. In the meantime, I bought a PSP on 1/9/06 (9/1/06 for the USA) which was great. I then wastched E3 06 go past and the PS3 didn't impress me, so I bought a 360! mdr1

That was a long post........ eekblue:

dj_faceplant

30-10-2006, 14:15

If you order from an online store then you might be lucky and get £425, but look at the 360's launch, nowhere on the highstreet could you pick up a 360 for the £270 or £208 r.r.p. usually the core would fetch around £260 and the premium about £350 and then if you looked on ebay you could see premiums selling for as much as £700.

now consider the PS3, much more widely anticipated, and allready much more expensive, then add what people will pay at the highstreet - easily £500 - then ebay - possibly talking thousands...

Actually, at the time of 360 Launch, Gamestation where selling it at the proper price.. Companies like Game (Electronics Boutique in the states) are told by their head offices that they are not allowed to sell the machine on it's own. I'm pretty sure that this should be illegal but it's what happens.

I know this because I used to work for Gamestation. So, search around if you can't find the right price for something.. It IS out there..

As for me, i'll be going to Gamestation for my PS3 because I know that I won't get screwed..