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thepharcyde
04-12-2006, 16:49
Why, why why do people believe cheating is the answer to winning online racing by taking short cuts. I was racing the other day and the amount of across grass short cuts which get taken are unreal. One track which I cannot remember the name of is 10 laps or basically a big oval, and two opponents were cutting it in half every lap.......errr why. I know you can turn on the damage or whatever it is called to combat this, but.............
WHY
If you cannot play without cheating, then why bother at all, you just as well race the pi$$ easy CPU's plug you meat and be happy you won!!!
putting damage on is the answer to the grass cutters!
jayfunandfunky
04-12-2006, 17:00
I spose it's cause they would rather win (and will do anything to beat you) than have the challenge and maybe loose... Must admit though, I haven't come across anyone that's cheated so far.
andywright
04-12-2006, 17:02
I have one response to this....
Practise more.
I have people try to cheat against me all the time (and I do a lot of online racing).
If you're fast enough, you can beat them anyway...
The amount of times I've had early quitters far outnumbers grass cutters. Its just something you get used to. Take it on the chin and find another race...Eventualy you'll be good enough to laugh at them as you whizz past them on the road!, lol
why is cutting the grass cheating???
Smee
why is cutting the grass cheating???
Smee
cos it aint part of the track.....
the_gaming_guy
04-12-2006, 17:26
Cutting grass isn't really cheating. There's no law, so to speak, against it..... rolleyesa
TheRaging
04-12-2006, 17:32
I'll let jenson button thought that for next years GP Championship. I'm sure the FIA won't mind him "cutting" a few chicanes. I can't believe some people think grass cutting isn't cheating!!!
thepharcyde
04-12-2006, 17:51
why is cutting the grass cheating???
Smee
Their is cutting the grass, and their is cutting, i.e. the raceway, s's before the long back straight, plouging across the grass and totally cutting the corner passing though the time gate on the way.
longtimelurker
04-12-2006, 17:52
I'll let jenson button thought that for next years GP Championship. I'm sure the FIA won't mind him "cutting" a few chicanes. I can't believe some people think grass cutting isn't cheating!!!
...but last time I looked the FIA wasn't the governing body for TDU? :)
thepharcyde
04-12-2006, 17:53
...but last time I looked the FIA wasn't the governing body for TDU? :)
I give up, back to your cheating!
Yungstar_2006
04-12-2006, 19:05
why is cutting the grass cheating???
it's not, it's just a whinge by those who don't know when or where to do it.
TheRaging
04-12-2006, 20:01
it's not, it's just a whinge by those who don't know when or where to do it.
You are an idiot, and don't understand the concept of sportsmanship. Why would anyone want to use grass cutting? Because they know it will give them an advantage over the fair players who will take time to negotiate the course properly!!!
OneGoodKnock
04-12-2006, 20:59
Totally agree with the last post. What the hell is the point of cutting half the course off by going over the grass? Just wonder if this is why I find playing games online generally quite pointless - incredibly anal in my opinion.
Why not just enter a race, cut out the racing all together( that bit would be pointless wouldn't it?) then get awarded a win ? Bloody real!!
TrickOfTheMind
04-12-2006, 21:31
I think its stupid, i mean, why cheat...sportmanship, they must now nothing about it.
Let them cheat... one day they will relise you was the true RACER!
thefastestshow
04-12-2006, 21:34
Cheating is a bad thing unless its for money lol
Cheesetastic
04-12-2006, 22:58
People do tend to take the free roaming aspect a little too far.
Why not just do a donut on the startline and say finished 1st!!!
I too hate corner cutters...
or people who delibarately slam into you when collisions are on!!
:chapeau: party poopers will always exist...
longtimelurker
05-12-2006, 10:14
Why not just do a donut on the startline and say finished 1st!!!
Cheers, hadn't thought of that.... tonguegre
Yungstar_2006
05-12-2006, 10:25
People do tend to take the free roaming aspect a little too far.
the key words would be free roaming
jayfunandfunky
05-12-2006, 10:28
Usually I don’t get annoyed on this game…
However, last night was my first real try at getting my ranking up a bit. On the ‘May The Best Man Win’ race around the track, I was racing 1 guy on bikes. He was cutting every corner possible and then slowed down just to p*ss me off. Grrrrrr! dark: So I waited until just before the end of the race and quitted.
AND THEN!!!!! He gave me a bad review and did me for quitting early!!!!! ANGERED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dark: sour: madred: sour: dark:
Yungstar_2006
05-12-2006, 10:30
You are an idiot, and don't understand the concept of sportsmanship.
and you are an idiot that does not understand the game
Why would anyone want to use grass cutting?
because they can and it's allowed.
Because they know it will give them an advantage over the fair players who will take time to negotiate the course properly!!!
okay, so you can't do it yourself, but stop the whining about those that can
Yungstar_2006
05-12-2006, 11:41
So I waited until just before the end of the race and quitted.
AND THEN!!!!! He gave me a bad review and did me for quitting early!!!!!
as would I, can't stand early quitters
jayfunandfunky
05-12-2006, 11:48
as would I, can't stand early quitters
Ok... Yungstar. Seeing as your defending cheaters (grass cutters). 2 races tonight, one where you can cut the grass and one where you can't. Lets see if you can beat me by racing properly shall we...
Grass Cutters = Cr@p drivers, needs to get a life and race properly on road
Jazz1970
05-12-2006, 13:04
IHMO there's nothing wrong with taking a shortcut, or cutting grass.
The whole point of these races in this free-roaming game is to
get first from A to B. If I would race you irl from (for example) Amsterdam
to Paris, I just know I will be taking the shortest way to the finish and
I am sure any one of you will do the same.
"But that's real life", you will say, "..and not a game".
Very true indeed, but don't forget that this is a free-roaming game,
not a fixed track one. (to roam: move about aimlessly)
The real cheaters are the early quitters. They can't win, so they quit.
Now that is something that should been fixed in the next patch, so the
ones that quit early lose their stake. Quitting is losing, just as in real life. :nono:
..just my two cents.
jayfunandfunky
05-12-2006, 13:19
IHMO there's nothing wrong with taking a shortcut, or cutting grass.
The whole point of these races in this free-roaming game is to
get first from A to B. If I would race you irl from (for example) Amsterdam
to Paris, I just know I will be taking the shortest way to the finish and
I am sure any one of you will do the same.
"But that's real life", you will say, "..and not a game".
Very true indeed, but don't forget that this is a free-roaming game,
not a fixed track one. (to roam: move about aimlessly)
The real cheaters are the early quitters. They can't win, so they quit.
Now that is something that should been fixed in the next patch, so the
ones that quit early lose their stake. Quitting is losing, just as in real life. :nono:
..just my two cents.
...If it's not fixed track, why do you have checkpoints around the courses on the track? Plus, there is no skill needed at grass cuttin (with my flymo, sorry, just thought of that) so you're not really playing the game the way it was intended...
...If it's not fixed track, why do you have checkpoints around the courses on the track? Plus, there is no skill needed at grass cuttin (with my flymo, sorry, just thought of that) so you're not really playing the game the way it was intended...
yup exactly, when your free riding its different then you can go where ever you want but when you send a race request to someone its then a RACE from A to B not free roam, and they did think about this by adding the driving gauge. if it was all about cutting grass then this function wouldnt have been there
isnt the game track set by check points... and isnt the idea to get through all the check point as quick as u can... its like me say in going to kent from norfolk... i aint gonna go to wales on the way cos thats where the rest of u go. get real... FIA rule book says ur not allowed to leave the track but if u do u arent allowed to gain from it. but there is no rules liek this in tdu u just got to race through the check points.
the speed camera races am i a cheat if i do it in a different order that every one else... get a life and grow up ill cut corners if i want ill stick to the road if i want. its up to u if u want to get in a race with me.
Smee
jayfunandfunky
05-12-2006, 13:31
... its up to u if u want to get in a race with me.
Smee
Good point, I won't. No skill, no race.
even my 3 year old sister could drive a saleen throught the grass.
cutting corners = bad sportsmanship
Good point, I won't. No skill, no race.
then ive already won... thats one less opposition to worry about.
jayfunandfunky
05-12-2006, 13:36
then ive already won... thats one less opposition to worry about.
Congratulation on the win. :chapeau:
even my 3 year old sister could drive a saleen throught the grass.
cutting corners = bad sportsmanship
how is it.... if u said to me at the start of a race stick to the road id do it. if u dont im gonna get from point A to B as quick as i can which is the point of the game.
also grass cutting isnt always the quickest so its actually a skill / talent when u have to work out where it is benefical
Congratulation on the win. :chapeau:
lol thanks it feels good just want to say thanks to my fellow racer he did the sportsmanship thing and pulled out ;)
Smee
jayfunandfunky
05-12-2006, 13:39
Can't be bothered with this anymore... Have to agree to disagree. Some people do, and some don't. As someone said, it is just a game, so enjoy it how you will...
Can't be bothered with this anymore... Have to agree to disagree. Some people do, and some don't. As someone said, it is just a game, so enjoy it how you will...
and those are wise words... it dont matter as long as u enjoy the game.. :( shame i not played mine in 2 weeks might give it a blast tomorrow when my HDTV arrives
Smee
andywright
05-12-2006, 13:58
I'll settle this one.
I'll race anyone and you can drive how you like....doesn't matter if I win (probable) or lose (possible)....cos I only see it as a game. If you wana go across the grass, feel free. You get more traction on the road and can handle it better. If you want to cut out a hairpin for example, thats fine, just watch out for me coming out of the hairpin sideways......past you..lol
Yungstar_2006
05-12-2006, 14:16
The whole point of these races in this free-roaming game is to
get first from A to B.
well said.......
Yungstar_2006
05-12-2006, 14:20
...If it's not fixed track, why do you have checkpoints around the courses on the track?
track? thats only in one place, at the erm... race track.
as for why you have the checkpoints,.... you have to pass through them, how you get there is up to you. me.... i'll take the shortest route. mdr1
jayfunandfunky
05-12-2006, 14:23
track? thats only in one place, at the erm... race track.
as for why you have the checkpoints,.... you have to pass through them, how you get there is up to you. me.... i'll take the shortest route. mdr1
I know, like I said...
"Can't be bothered with this anymore... Have to agree to disagree. Some people do, and some don't. As someone said, it is just a game, so enjoy it how you will..."
To be really honest, I'm having a bad day at work, which is why I started to disagree. Sorry all. People drive how they enjoy to drive. Personally, I like it on the roads, but also spend quite a lot of time on the grass, cause I aint that good :laugh: :) weirdblue :noooo:
andywright
05-12-2006, 14:28
...but also spend quite a lot of time on the grass, cause I aint that good :laugh: :) weirdblue :noooo:
You're joking right? Wouldn't go that far matey. On courses that you know, you're not bad at all (yes, thats a compliment).
BUT, you do seem to have a problem with your brakes (like they don't work half the time, lol). Just kidding
jayfunandfunky
05-12-2006, 14:34
You're joking right? Wouldn't go that far matey. On courses that you know, you're not bad at all (yes, thats a compliment).
BUT, you do seem to have a problem with your brakes (like they don't work half the time, lol). Just kidding
Shhhhh! didn't want to blow my own trumpet rolleyesa
( :hin: Is there a break button? Doh, now you tell me :) )
andywright
05-12-2006, 14:44
....Is there a break button? Doh, now you tell me :)
I give in rolleyesa :laugh:
TheRaging
05-12-2006, 15:06
Well atleast I can be comfortable in the knowledge that there are other fair racers in TDU, and to be honest I've experienced very little grass cutting when I've been racing. Just makes me laugh that people will do what ever they can to win, even if it means taking and advantage over the other racers that race properly.
Like Jay said though. Agree to disagree.
the_gaming_guy
05-12-2006, 16:58
There is a skill to cutting corners and people do it all the time in real life (i.e. Top Gear). This is an open-world with places to drive OUTSIDE of the road. If you "stick to the track" only, then stick to PGR3 or something. TDU is an open-world and to take advantage of no barriers is not exactly breaking the rules. At the end of the day, it's up to you whether you see it as cheating or racing, but I believe in it.
*hides from flamers..... tonguegre *
thepharcyde
05-12-2006, 17:54
Got an idea.
Their are two options at the mo
1) Ranked Race
2) Player Race
Should be a third
3) For grass cutting yellow bellied cheats.
Sorted.
All you grass cutters who don't who cannot stand losing can now use option 3 and feel good about winning by cheating :bravo:
andywright
05-12-2006, 18:02
Got an idea.
Their are two options at the mo
1) Ranked Race
2) Player Race
Should be a third
3) For grass cutting yellow bellied cheats.
Sorted.
All you grass cutters who don't who cannot stand losing can now use option 3 and feel good about winning by cheating :bravo:
Lol. Couldn't have put it better myself...One cookie for you.... :laugh:
Crazed_Dodgem
05-12-2006, 18:03
cutting the inside of a corner is Ok. but not the whole course.
i mean this isnt extreme offroad...
the_gaming_guy
05-12-2006, 18:47
cutting the inside of a corner is Ok. but not the whole course.
i mean this isnt extreme offroad...
HAHA, look who's talking. The man who stole $10,000 of me by cutting across teh whole track...
Jazz1970
05-12-2006, 18:59
cutting the inside of a corner is Ok. but not the whole course.
i mean this isnt extreme offroad...
HAHA, look who's talking. The man who stole $10,000 of me by cutting across teh whole track...
zOMG!!! :laugh: :laugh:
Lwsbrck got..
http://www.forenpics.de/wayne/own3d-retard.jpg
Crazed_Dodgem
05-12-2006, 19:01
Ahhhhhh, so now you take a different tone :p
i didnt cut much, anyway, your DB4 span My E-type at the start line, i was justified :p
i needed the money... Baby needs new shoes!
Gideon_84
18-12-2006, 13:57
I hate the f**ck*n' cheaters, last week i challenged a guy with a Countach, i was driving my Corvette C6, so we started the race, a few miles further i was running 1st place. But about a 0,2 miles from the finish the opponent quit the race. And I thought, if he quits the game, i will get my 20,000 stake. But i didn't.
It pisses me off
i think it sucks to cheat in this fantastic game..
i love it so damn much that i really get angry by finding so many topics from people who want to cheat in the game madred: :mad: :mad:
Cutting grass isn't really cheating. There's no law, so to speak, against it..... rolleyesaI would say it is cheating and unfair, in other words people who do not know how to race cut corners. Also people, who are scared of losing, cut corners as well.
I would say it is cheating and unfair, in other words people who do not know how to race cut corners. Also people, who are scared of losing, cut corners as well.
what TVR_Fan said
Marc_CRX
18-12-2006, 14:34
cutting the inside of a corner is Ok. but not the whole course.
i mean this isnt extreme offroad...
I Agree with this
my conception of cutting corners is if all 4 weels are on the grass/dirt then its a cut but if you cut the very edge of the corner where only 2 wheels leave the road then i wouldnt count it as a cut
and i finbd it humorous that most of the people who say grass cutting isnt cheating sound like the 13yr old saleen drivers that i have been hearing about :chapeau:
Saleen drivers and course cutters are the scum of TDU!
lol i love reading this.. isnt a week or two that go by with out it being brought up...
the rules are simple... and u cant deny it
u have to race from point A to point B in the quickest time possible via the check points. there isnt any rules like the FIA that say u cant cut corners and make an unfair advantage from it and there is no governen body to rule. so stop whinging and get on with the racing if u dont like the people that do it simple dont race them
Smee
TheRaging
18-12-2006, 15:38
lol i love reading this.. isnt a week or two that go by with out it being brought up...
the rules are simple... and u cant deny it
u have to race from point A to point B in the quickest time possible via the check points. there isnt any rules like the FIA that say u cant cut corners and make an unfair advantage from it and there is no governen body to rule. so stop whinging and get on with the racing if u dont like the people that do it simple dont race them
Smee
However all good, decent TDU racers have a sort of "Sportsmanship code". I don't cut corners, I don't spin people out and I don't ram either. Few of my opponents have done. The're racers like me, Andy and S4ED K etc who are decent racers and will want a race that involves driver skill. This means everyone uses the same part of the track: by that i mean the ACTUAL track, and no-one uses an advantage that someone else doesn't have other than drving/racing skill.
I wouldn't expect grass cutters and cheats to understand this because they have no concept of fair play and just do what they can to win, whether it's fair or not. I depise this, I'd rather lose fairly, than win by being a cheating *******!!!
However all good, decent TDU racers have a sort of "Sportsmanship code". I don't cut corners, I don't spin people out and I don't ram either. Few of my opponents have done. The're racers like me, Andy and S4ED K etc who are decent racers and will want a race that involves driver skill. This means everyone uses the same part of the track: by that i mean the ACTUAL track, and no-one uses an advantage that someone else doesn't have other than drving/racing skill.
I wouldn't expect grass cutters and cheats to understand this because they have no concept of fair play and just do what they can to win, whether it's fair or not. I depise this, I'd rather lose fairly, than win by beaing a cheating *******!!!
totally agreed, this deserves a clap :bravo: :respect:
TheRaging
18-12-2006, 15:41
lol cheers. It just get right on my nerves when people try to defend cheating. As if the act of cheating isn't bad enough, people try to justify it! Morons.
lol cheers. It just get right on my nerves when people try to defend cheating. As if the act of cheating isn't bad enough, people try to justify it! Morons.
pmsl now ur using insults....
isnt ramming allowed in touring cars??? or as its called nudging. in nascar its called rubbing
a sportsmanship code... u sound like a flippin' geek.... next ull be parking up in a carpark and talking bhp and virtual girl friends...
its a race from A to B via check points quickest guy wins. simple
i aint justifying cheating im just pointing out it aint cheating on this game (if u dont want them to cut corners turn on damage SIMPLE) and i hate it when people on forums get on there pc and they all turn in to flyin' Keyboard warriors.
bosko555
18-12-2006, 16:03
I haven't played the game, but have seen what kind of cars are in the game.
Then go try to go in real life over the grass with these cars. It would spin or roll over. Grass is not intended for driving on, it just adds something to the enviroment. Everywhere where is a race with road cars like Ferrari...., people drive on roads. The opposite of road races are offroad races which are driven with terrarin veichels on mud or grass (offroad terrain). I also think cuting corner is cheating. But that is just my opinion. I play also a lot of F1 games and hate people that drive over the grass to cut corners. For me that is not winning.
but any one tht plays f1 should know the rules and know thats not allowed and shouldnt do it. those that do arent worth racing. i dont see u or i going on forums and ranting about it tho do you??
who are the real children here?
Smee
TheRaging
18-12-2006, 16:48
pmsl now ur using insults....
isnt ramming allowed in touring cars??? or as its called nudging. in nascar its called rubbing
a sportsmanship code... u sound like a fryin' geek.... next ull be parking up in a carpark and talking bhp and virtual girl friends...
its a race from A to B via check points quickest guy wins. simple
i aint justifying cheating im just pointing out it aint cheating on this game (if u dont want them to cut corners turn on damage SIMPLE) and i hate it when people on forums get on there pc and they all turn in to flump-eatin' Keyboard warriors.
I think you'll find in most Touring Car Championship ramming (or whatever you want to call it) isn't actually allowed, and if you watch closely in most circumstances the drivers try to AVOID hitting each other in aid of getting a clean passing move. Much like the GOOD drivers in TDU.
Has everyone noticed it's ONLY the cheaters try to justify cutting and ramming? So sad, lol.
Marc_CRX
18-12-2006, 16:59
I think you'll find in most Touring Car Championship ramming (or whatever you want to call it) isn't actually allowed, and if you watch closely in most circumstances the drivers try to AVOID hitting each other in aid of getting a clean passing move. Much like the GOOD drivers in TDU.
Has everyone noticed it's ONLY the cheaters try to justify cutting and ramming? So sad, lol.
Very true hitting/nudging is a different story if it is accidental
I.E most touring car accidents happen when the racer infront Brakes too early and the other car goes into the back of it....it may look intentional but the BTCC and others have very strict rules agains nudging/ramming
Who Cares about Nascars being able to hit other races....thats the only thing that makes it worth watching is the crashes and even then all the crashes look the same
But since the people who do cheat are 13 then they have no concept of road use and should be banned from playing any type of racing game
Gameconsolesmad
18-12-2006, 17:30
Saleen drivers and course cutters are the scum of TDU!
HEY!! I am a Saleen driver on TDU!! I dont cut corners and I CAN actually control the damn things properly. Not all Saleen drivers are bad!!
Mines pink/purple lol...
HEY!! I am a Saleen driver on TDU!! I dont cut corners and I CAN actually control the damn things properly. Not all Saleen drivers are bad!!
Mines pink/purple lol...
ive seen him drive and yup no doubt about it he knowes how to handle his saleen and he doesnt use driving aids to eekblue:
Gameconsolesmad
18-12-2006, 17:35
he doesnt use driving aids to
*cough* *cough* ahem *cough*
I'm gona have to dissappoint you...
I'm not a liar either...
lol oh, ooops well still better than me i cant drive that thing even if it was to save my life
Gameconsolesmad
18-12-2006, 17:38
I tried no aids. It span out in neutral when the engine was off!!
andywright
18-12-2006, 17:46
I too can drive the Saleen (with D.Aids set to anything you like), and mine goes round corners quite nicely than you very much.
I don't care if you want to cheat against me or not. You'll generally lose more than you win against me.....
Anyone who's raced me can verify this.....
neexxxxtttt..... :laugh:
Gameconsolesmad
18-12-2006, 17:52
Anyone who's raced me can verify this.....
That'll be me then. He is very very good.
0-60 in 2.26secs isnt it? I found a possible quicker way that needs some experimentation, fancy testing it with me?
andywright
18-12-2006, 17:56
Yeah summat like that (I can do the Waikiki Race in 41.86 seconds on a good day if anyone would like to try me at it, lol)
GCM...you ain't too slow yourself ;)
There's loads of ways that people are experimenting with regarding the Saleen, I just stick to what I know cos it always works nicely for me (and all the top ranking racers use the very same method).
And no, I won't share it :p, lol
Gameconsolesmad
18-12-2006, 17:58
I can only do that race in 45secs. I screw up on the corner b4 the straight bit. Do you want to test it though? I think it is only 0.06secs quicker though.
andywright
18-12-2006, 18:20
Umm, yeah (if I get the time). The rankings take up most of my nights online, but I'm sure a bit of time out won't hurt (might be a different story when I'm online though). Depends how many people are around. If there's loads...not a chance - too many points up for grabs....god I need a life, lol
Can I end this?
People that want to cut corners, let them. If you don't, don't do it. if it's such a bad cheat, how do I still win in instant-challenges. mdr1
let's see, cheats. Okay, I saw some realism issues here. Is it really 'realistic' to get seventy-thousand (70,000, 70 grand, 70K for the younger crowd) in two minutes from a race, constantly right after the other race? There are lots of 'realism' issues here, but just do whatcha want, the better driver or the chear still have to pass the finish line at some point in a race.
TheRaging
18-12-2006, 20:10
It was never about realism, it was about sportsmanship. A concept only the bright TDU player seems to understand.
Crazed_Dodgem
18-12-2006, 20:11
pmsl now ur using insults....
a sportsmanship code... u sound like a flippin' geek.... next ull be parking up in a carpark and talking bhp and virtual girl friends...
and i hate it when people on forums get on there pc and they all turn in to flippin' Keyboard warriors.
and Gg gets banned over this guy because... :hin:
[edit] Lwsbrck does the hard work (quote editing), so mods dont have to
TheRaging
18-12-2006, 20:13
I knew he was banned, but not cos of that guy. It's a shame it should be the other way round.
and Gg gets banned over this guy because... :hin:
so he did get banned then an he isnt playing about eekblue:
NO WAY WE NEED GG
i admit he posts nonsensical rubbish but then again who can put there hand up say they havent :hin:
precisely
GG if ur reading this come on MSN mate :)
Raging, go back and read the topic. ;(
TheRaging
18-12-2006, 20:17
I don't need to, I've already expressed my opinion and have had people agree with it. I've even been clapped :nuts: I don't see how reading through the topic again will benefit me.
Apparently you missed the 'realism' discussion.
TheRaging
18-12-2006, 20:22
Nope, I saw it. But if you read MY posts you'll see they are about sportsmanship within the game.
I saw those, and, I think that to each his own. If you want to cut corners, go ahead, hope you fall off into the water if you're on the coast and let me go right on ahead. :laugh:
Regardless of anyones idea of grammer, can we please keep the language clean?........ :respect:
That'd be a good idea, but.. this topic was dead. *I win!*
TheRaging
19-12-2006, 00:39
Yeah... you sure killed it alright.
tonguegre The killer was the arguing in the first place.
TheRaging
19-12-2006, 00:42
I like to think it as more of a debate... :p
I'm thinking you'd be a better politician than a racer bro :rolleyes:
TheRaging
19-12-2006, 00:59
lol, I'll resign from this topic then, I like my racing :nuts:
KoenigViper
19-12-2006, 01:44
It's just like hackers in CS:S. It shows they have no real skill.
nicholastan91
19-12-2006, 04:19
hey just wondering.i got this problem when doing the Ranked race..when i win a guy by 2 secs,i came out a loser weirdblue but when i lost to him by 2 secs,i also also a loser..wtf is this? it happens in the wankikk race or somthing like that..keeps happening.. :cry: i need to complete my acivements!! :cry:
reece_sis
19-12-2006, 08:58
It's just like hackers in CS:S. It shows they have no real skill.
Css ROCKS! :unk: :unk:
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