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Somethings

11-12-2006, 00:47

Here is the article of the reporting at the ATARI’s studio and EDEN GAMES.
To have more details on the organisation of this meeting, I spoke about it on this thread (http://forums.eu.atari.com/showthread.php?t=45887&page=1&pp=30)
Be respectful to the hard working of the testdriveunlimited.fr team ! thx :)
It’s a translation of the original article (http://testdriveunlimited.fr/index.php?file=Forum&page=viewtopic&forum_id=3&thread_id=270) (where you can find photos and videos of the PC version, some of them TBC. Check the website regularly) so forgive me for my English and enjoy !!!

An afternoon to test Test Drive Unlimited…

** As some of you knows, we’ve been allowed to (me Fab69 on this forum ;) and the winner of the contest, Friman) test the PC, PS2 and PSP versions of TDU. :cool: :atari:

** After a little problem on the road madred: , we finally arrived on Place Giovanni da Verrazzano. As early as I was out of my car, that my contact invited us to join him in a taxi for going to the Eden’s studios.

** It’s the place where TDU was born ! :bravo:
After a trip in the taxi we arrive at the final destination. A big and beautiful building all in glass seems to keep the whole developers team. An eye on the map of the building? Let’s go the fifth floor.
Here we are ! A part of the devs team is here. I meet Sylvain, a designer better known with the nickname TDU-McLEOD on the ATARI’s forum and on our website too, someone who count a lot for me. He’s the first to guide me in order to have a contact with ATARI which can give me the best and real informations about the game.
All the team is welcoming with us, everyone is ready to share his knowledge and particularly his passions ! Seriously, they are really passionate by cars and video game, it’s very reassuring, their engagement whith their “jewels” make the game to be a reference !

** After a little visit of the place where we have seen the work accomplished on an other game called “Alone in the Dark”, which seems to be good, we go in a little room where 2 peoples are still working on the details of several cars which some manufacturers wants to see modified … near them the game is on and the famous G25 seems wanted to be in use ! specialdri
Developers affirmed us that it’s possible that the game slows down because it’s a beta version and particularly because the computer is not the more powerful. So the details are not set to the maximum but no slowing down came to vitiate our enthusiasm. The game is perfectly smooth and decors spreads to the infinite ! the clipping is hardly visible and will be improved… Incredible !

Let’s see details step by step…

Cars...

** The cars looks like to the 360 version. All details are here, so a great cheer is essential ! First at all, they have to gather all photos as possible for the most faithful similarity with the reality. Sometimes the research is delicate because some cars are too rare, moreover the old models are often renovated and some details become different to the original. Despite the difficulty, they never gave up to ease and they continue to research the most details as possible ! When I say they are passionate…! The case which seems to have posed to them more troubles was obviously the Cobra Daytona. Indeed the manufacturer not being able to provide details they called upon collectors of small-scale model of high quality. All the details being joined together a research of the best model maker of cars everywhere in the world is essential, all can’t be make has Lyon.
The finished prototypes are then joined together for all the details. Each vehicle is taken from every angle (from the main body to the pommel speed), all is sent to the manufacturers who then give their agreement or which requires possible modifications... to have the licences is certainly more pleasant for us, but much more testing for the devs which must accept the constraints of the manufacturers not always very co-operative and ignoramuses in the field of the video game. A small figure to realize that each car cost on average to the 15000€ ! But with final what a happiness ! We could believe to see a true car! The reflections are splendid because simply realistic! and not exaggerated as in some Need For Speed Carbon...

Feelings…

** The driving is strange at the beginning but with time it becomes finally very nice. It’s more simulation than arcade (more realistic) and it will delight some of you ! Loss of control are frequent especially if you begin with a powerful car ! I can’t make comparison with another racing game for the moment. I will give you no matter what it arrives more details during the next week with the version beta than I will study in-depth ! Setting of the controler, as that was envisaged, will permit us to make some modifications in particular on the level of sensitivity of the wheel all the world doesn’t have the same feeling with the direction etc... The 6 speeds shifter of G25 is very well managed even if the pallets will be preferable to gain of speed in a race. Each wheels is studied to be optimized best, and you know there are a lot. Feeling of speed is very well retransmitted without excessive use of blur! I think you know with which game I refer…

The backdrop…

** There is what to be impressed. Quality such amazing on a huge place to play... According to devs, the game will will look better PC than on 360. I don’t have an Xbox so I’m not able to say more about that... Clearness it’s beautiful! The devs knowing all the details of the game, we could see splendid views of Hawaii. The vision of a remote hill whereas you are on another whole while knowing that it’s possible for you to go there… is quite simply splendid. Let us dare some details…
options lists are the same as on Xbox360. Very clear and intuitive, the number of possibilities is significant. Using the best current physical engine, and having entirely parameterized it again, the feelings of realism of the cars comportment can only be excellent. The system of market is preserved even if Microsoft were not favourable at the beginning. The creation of club is always possible. In short the similarities with the 360 version are very close.

** Well it’s time to leave and let the developers turn over to works. Whereas we must stay that an hour we are finally to encrust two hours !!! Two hours very enriching for knowledge on test Drive Unlimited, but especially on the development of a game which is really not, and it is the case to say it, an easy thing to do...

You can see a video of TDU PC VERSION now here (http://www.dailymotion.com/visited/search/test%20drive%20unlimited/video/xrynd_exclu-pc-test-drive-unlimited) ! others TBC ;) I'll modify this post each time a new video arrives !

PS2 and PSP versions...

** It is time to take a taxi again and to go back to ATARI's sudio in order to test, this time, the PS2 and PSP versions ! A return delayed by traffic jam.
Fortunately the fast taxi driver brought us back to good port without losing too much time. We entered the building, decorated for celebrations of the end of year with beautiful blue lights. After having passed two doors, which works only with one master key, we arrived in the part reserved to Atari. A large room fills of offices, a little to the manner of the scene of Matrix (the first) where Neo is guided by telephone thanks to Morpheus.

** A small staircase carries out us in a room with a large LCD screen. In front of it, a coffee table where two PS2 and not less than 8 controllers, were waiting. Two PSP are also installed for a small game in networks. A room envisaged at the origin, to test the game and to find the possible issues.
It is time to speak about these two versions…

PS2 and PSP versions…

** It should already be known that these two versions were not envisaged when they started the project of TDU, and a few attentions were carried to them. However it seems that the devs located in Australia, did an impressive work, seen the low power of its two consoles. Indeed the PS2 is near 32 times less powerful than the xbox360, whereas the PSP is of 64 times. A hard challenge was announced.

Graphics…

** The details are set to the maximum which can be tolerated by the consoles, at least for the PS2 which is used to the maximum. The PSP can surely do better... But the result obtained, imposes the respect.

** The island has been entirely preserved for the two consoles, and any time of loading won’t come to disturb your trip. What can appear an obligation for all, isn’t however also obvious ! Indeed, streaming is a thing which had never been seen on PSP and never also exploited on PS2. The common interest of the developers was to find the quality of the vehicles of the PC and Xbox360 versions. And the result confirms their success.
A small detail on the PS2, but which is importance, is the reflections of the decorations on the body of the vehicles. No game, according to us and devs (we’re not sure but in the doubt) has never used real reflections ! Usually the movements of light and shade on the cars are false, here, the decoration is really reflected on the body.

Drive feelings...

** More voluntarily arcade it will touch the most of the public on these two consoles.
--- For the PS2 version :
** Indeed, the “real” arcade changes to the 360 or PC version. The pleasure therefore isn’t wasted, and in spite of a more obvious facility, the driving errors won’t be forgiven ! Beautiful hours of game will fill, it is sure, the owners of this version !
--- For the PSP version :
** The physical engine is the same, so the feelings seems to be very closed to PS2 version. The difference being in the small joystick which is so particular on the PSP (I am not particularly fan of it but, after a time of adaptation, it must be better appreciable). Only the owners of this console could judge...

Modifications…

** The network won’t be as developed on PS2 and PSP than the 360 and PC versions. A new system of points was set up, they are accumulated during the game, by making drifts, or using drafting. These points will enable you to increase your statistics. The change of luminous environment (day, to lay down sun...) won’t be done in real time but will change when you go in the houses or all other buildings. The system of personalization of the character (clothes...) wasn’t preserved for these two versions. Having noted that it was not very much used by the players, the devs preferred to work on other points.
** The motor bikes will also not be present in these two versions for technical reasons. Too much of works to obtain a satisfying result and the certainty that it shouldn’t be possible to respect the deadline. Ferrari refused to see its cars in these two versions... in spite of negotiations it seems that they won’t be present. On the other hand all the cars contained in DLC will be directly integrated into the set of its versions. Finally the interior view wasn’t preserved in version PSP.

** The only issue we met, because it was beta versions, is the absence of reflection on certain models of car on version PS2. Nothing which can’t be largely corrected before it is released.

** We didn’t finish yet joining together the videos PS2 and PSP. They will be put on the website during this week.

** To conclude, after an afternoon which increases the knowledge about Test Drive Unlimited, but also about secrets of realization of a video game, it shows us that the work to make it is impressive ! Only for that, I don’t understand how people can insult, with the slightest mistake, those who give so much in order to make this game one of the best, if it isn’t the best ! The team shares me their incomprehension face to that kind of reaction.
** Our community was congratulated and it is undoubtedly in party thanks to this good agreement that they accorded so many time to us.

** Last once, thanks a lot to the whole team of EDEN GAMES and ATARI !
(I wasn’t paid by ATARI for saying good things about the game, but I’ve seen the hard working to make it, and I don’t see myself saying bad things about it... first at all it would be necessary to me to have negatives thoughts and personally I don’t have one at all !

Written by Fabien, webmaster of testdriveunlimited.fr and translated by Somethings

Thanks to Fabien, Friman and of course ATARI's and EDEN's teams for those precious informations ;)

Thanks a lot for reading ! (Let me know your opinion !)

I'll modify this post when news comes !

|**.Videos from reporting.**|

PC == > 1 (http://www.dailymotion.com/visited/search/test%20drive%20unlimited/video/xrynd_exclu-pc-test-drive-unlimited) 2 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xwbdr_beta-pc-test-drive-unlimited)
PSP == > 1 (http://www.dailymotion.com/_Archangel_/video/xv71a_exclupsp)
PS2 == > 1 (http://www.dailymotion.com/_Archangel_/video/xv7f4_exclu-ps2-test-drive-unlimited)

|**.Photos / Screens.**|

At Eden Games's studios :

1 (http://www.hiboox.com/image.php?img=6c33b41a.jpg) 2 (http://www.hiboox.com/image.php?img=8d6c61a.jpg) 3 (http://www.hiboox.com/image.php?img=f5db40a6.jpg) 4 (http://www.hiboox.com/image.php?img=4ba31ddf.jpg)

Someone working on a car :

1 (http://www.hiboox.com/image.php?img=37db6dd1.jpg) 2 (http://www.hiboox.com/image.php?img=f1ecfa8c.jpg) 3 (http://www.hiboox.com/image.php?img=7dfe2202.jpg) 4 (http://www.hiboox.com/image.php?img=911027b5.jpg)

You have to obtain my agreement for hosting those screens and videos on you server, website or anywhere else...

|**.TDU PC BETA TEST SCREENS.**|

My PC spec : P4E 3.0Ghz / 7600GS 256Mb AGP8x / 2Gb RAM PC3200
Game setting : 1024*768 / High details / AA 4x / No HDR

1 (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061mm5.jpg) 2 (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061qi0.jpg) 3 (http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061vr3.jpg) 4 (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061kl4.jpg) 5 (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061yd0.jpg) 6 (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061hh0.jpg) 7 (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061dp9.jpg) 8 (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061ko1.jpg) 9 (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061wv0.jpg) 10 (http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061yb6.jpg) 11 (http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061rf3.jpg) 12 (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061po7.jpg) 13 (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061ej0.jpg) 14 (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061rc2.jpg) 15 (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061ze5.jpg) 16 (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061en0.jpg) 17 (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061pf1.jpg) 18 (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061ze1.jpg) 19 (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061wq0.jpg) 20 (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061rv9.jpg) 21 (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061yi9.jpg) 22 (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061ag7.jpg) 23 (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061zx2.jpg) 24 (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061ve2.jpg)
25 (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070zi1.jpg) 26 (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070bu0.jpg) 27 (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070eu0.jpg) 28 (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070xk4.jpg) 29 (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070ae9.jpg) 30 (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070wt5.jpg) 31 (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070zh4.jpg) 32 (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070ow7.jpg) 33 (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070op1.jpg) 34 (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070kq6.jpg) 35 (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070ox2.jpg) 36 (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070yj2.jpg) 37 (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070vr2.jpg) 38 (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070gc0.jpg) 39 (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070am0.jpg) 40 (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070qt3.jpg) 41 (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070pw5.jpg) 42 (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070li9.jpg) 43 (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070ch6.jpg) 44 (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070vv1.jpg) 45 (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070kg8.jpg) 46 (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070lo6.jpg) 47 (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070rd7.jpg) 48 (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070yw2.jpg) 49 (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070el1.jpg) 50 (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070de7.jpg) 51 (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070mf1.jpg)

[B]|**.TDU PC BETA TEST VIDEOS BY VertigoSFX.**|

Cadillac XLR and Z06 (http://www.burningvision.net/downloads/tdu_vettevid.zip)

|**.TDU PC BETA TEST VIDEOS BY Somethings.**|

Three servers available NOW !!! try all in order to not overload one server ;) and don't forget to let me know your opinion !

Hardcore Mode F430 (50.8Mo) 8mn28
ServerFile (http://savefile.com/files/374415) MegaUpload (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E0P7NHPE) RapidShare (http://rapidshare.com/files/10370878/TDU_HardcoreMode_by_Somethings.wmv.html)
Maserati 3500GT in the mountain (27.74Mo) 4mn41
ServerFile (http://savefile.com/files/378946) MegaUpload (http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=PEPWD8BV) RapidShare ( http://rapidshare.com/files/10372421/TDU_Maserati_3500GT_drifting_in_the_mountain_by_So methings.wmv.html)
Crazy R32 + 288GTO (52.51Mo) 8mn44
ServerFile (http://savefile.com/files/378955) MegaUpload (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WMLZQZRV) RapidShare (http://rapidshare.com/files/24033584/TDU_Crazy_R32_and__surpirse__a_288_GTO___by_Someth ings.wmv)
288GTO in the forest (51.8Mo) 8mn32
ServerFile (http://savefile.com/files/384173) MegaUpload (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OPJHMGH9) RapidShare (http://rapidshare.com/files/10373367/TDU_Ferrari_288_GTO_in_the_forest_by_Somethings.wm v.html)
A3 3.2 Quattro chased by a CLK DTM AMG (59.72Mo) 10mn52
ServerFile (http://savefile.com/files/391127) MegaUpload (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NS8DP4K5) RapidShare (http://rapidshare.com/files/10392250/TDU_A3_chased_by_a_CLK_DTM_AMG_by_Somethings.wmv.h tml)
CLK DTM AMG Vs Maserati MC12 HIGH DEFINITION (57.61Mo) 1mn57 codec H.264 screen (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070dp3.jpg)
ServerFile (http://savefile.com/files/392549) MegaUpload (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DZXPXLC7) RapidShare (http://rapidshare.com/files/10487803/TDU_CLK_DTM_AMG_Vs_Maserati_MC12_by_Somethings.avi .html)
CLK 55 AMG on racetrack (56.1Mo) 6mn34
Savefile (http://savefile.com/files/393020) MegaUpload (http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=MMRWGQYP) RapidShare (http://rapidshare.com/files/10528435/TDU_CLK_55_AMG_on_racetrack_by_Somethings.wmv.html )

Spoonz

11-12-2006, 00:56

wooow cool, is it just me or does that look better than x360.

Diablo_

11-12-2006, 01:03

Are they using a G25 ?!?!!!

Only one place that can say how much we appreciate this Somethings and tdu.fr: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/bloodtalon82/thankyou.swf :nuts:

Somethings

11-12-2006, 01:06

Are they using a G25 ?!?!!!

Only one place that can say how much we appreciate this Somethings and tdu.fr: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/bloodtalon82/thankyou.swf :nuts:

lol Diablo thanks a lot ! (your link is terrible !!! :laugh: )

yes they're using the G25....... mine is prepared for it mdr1 :cool:
the game has been totally thought for it !

ErykB

11-12-2006, 01:31

Somethings

11-12-2006, 01:40

"It’s more sim-like than arcade and it will delight some of you !"
The cars are driving the same like on Xbox 360 or driving is more sim (harder), more realistic?

And some question about Force Feedback on Logitech wheel. I've playing NFS 5 porsche and I must say it has one of the best FF system ever! Specially I like feel engine vibrations on wheel. Is this effect in TDU?

Many thanks for your report.

It's more realistic (I'll modify it ;) )

I can't answer to your question for the moment but I'll ask Fabien (Fab69 !) about it !

And no problem it's a pleasure ! (and it's not finish the second part will arrive tomorrow !)

OzJustin

11-12-2006, 05:15

Many thanks for the translation. Just thought I'd provide you a link that might make your translation much quicker.
http://babelfish.altavista.com/

Just put the block of text in and select French to English translation. I read the entire french article lastnight with that and admit it's not perfect, but it's quite acceptable. Hope it saves you some time. :)

Somethings

11-12-2006, 13:35

Ok guys, the second part of the article is online ! Go to my the first post of this thread to read it !

Thank you OzJustin for the link, but I used an other website... in fact it takes time to modify all expressions... those "softwares" translate word by word and don't respect all the grammar and don't care to specifics expressions, so I tried to make the best translation (especially for you guys :cool: ) ! ;)
Thanks a lot anyway I didn't know Babelfish.Altavista !

Somethings

12-12-2006, 10:43

wow 331 readings !!! it's very good in 2 days ! But only 7 answers to it... so you don't have opinion ???? or maybe no one is interesting in the PC version.... may be... tonguegre

I'm testing the BETA now, I can answer to the FFB : first at all, the G25 is not easy to set (no set up as in GTR with calibrations of each pedals... etc) it's a BETA I know, but there's a lot of work to do on it !
Finally, I'm sorry, but the FFB is not very strong and you don't feel the engine's vibrations... :/ but I repeat it's a BETA it could be modified from realesed !

SinSilla

12-12-2006, 11:18

Of course are we interested in the PC Version of TDU! eekblue:

The article is written nice, but the problem with it is that its quite general.

It reads like most of the well known XBox360 Previews, i would have loved to read more about the differences between Xbox360 and the PC-Version.

But okay, he has never played the 360 Version...makes it difficult to compare :mefiant:

I would love to explore the beta on my own, but unfortunatley i haven´t got a key. So...still listenig to the radiotracks... :chapeau:

Greetings from Berlin, Germany

Sin

bosko555

12-12-2006, 13:59

Yea, thank you for the article. I wan't to play te game even more now :) , after a read the article. I love that the game has so much realistic playing :bravo: , not like some other similiar games that are to arcade like. Does the weather in the game change. Becouse i read in a post that, the weather doesn't change a lot, just little of fog sometimes?

I have an offtopic question: Is the Logitech G25 a good steering wheel (is it worth the price). I am thinking of buying one in the future, but the price is just very big if i compare it to some other steering wheels.

Somethings

12-12-2006, 14:17

bosko555

12-12-2006, 14:26

Aaaaaaaaaah thx you !!! Don't worry, I know there are a lot of people who are intereste in the game ! just a little joke :)
yeah it's quite general because it looks the same as the 360 (I can say it because I'm playing the BETA :cool: ) The driving is a little more realistic but the arcade side dominate I don't think it's a bad thing ! The BETA is too BETA to really have a definitive opinion about the game (so much things can change) but it seems to be a great game ;)
A details: no, the weather don't changes ! it's like the 360 version !

Off topic : the G25 is ex-cell-ent ! The quality is there, feeling is great, clutch is fantastic.... perfect I think !!! lol In fact the price is big if you think you'll use it twice a year, but if you play a lot of simulations as GTR, GTR², GT Legends, Rfactor...or no big simulation (TDU my love...) you can consider it's an investment.

Thank you for the info about the game and the steering wheel.
Offtopic: Yea i do play a lot of driving simulations, like the rfactor, a played some gtr2, but mostly I played the F1 Challenge '99 '02, that is also a simulation. And they are great games to play with a steering wheel, but i have the Thurmaster's Enzo ferrari steering wheel which is great but, i want one with a clutch and gears, that's why i am thinking of buying the G25. :):):)

ErykB

12-12-2006, 14:31

Most of discusion on another forums are about:
-How will multiplayer work
-Is graphic the same like that in Xbox 360 version
-What about cars? Most of don't like buying new cars or that one's that are to buy now on Xbox 360 ( prize for patient!)
- How will look system requirements

I agree with that we want more realistic driving.

PS I'm playing racing sims too.

Girrari

12-12-2006, 17:13

No Ferraris (than probbably no Maserati or Alfa) and motorbikes in PS2 and PSP versions??? That doesn't sound good.
To be honest, all I care about is PC version, but still...

Somethings

12-12-2006, 18:35

For the online I can't compare because I've never tested the online on the 360. What I can say, is when the BETA starts you have a menu with "continue game" "new game".... if you choose one of these, you'll be automatically conected to the server. There is no solo part in the BETA. For graphics, it seems to be the same, I can't turn on the HDR without the game crashs; Here is a screen (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061vl6.jpg) if you have the 360 version you'll be able to say if there is difference.

Forgive for the question with "what about cars ?" but I don't understand it... sorry !

Finally the system requirements seems to be high : I've got a P4E 3.0Ghz (multi processor is used in the game) 7600GS 256Mb AGP8x o/c and 2Gb ram PC3200 Dual Channel. The most important is the ram I think... 50% of mine is used during the game.

Girrari : Ferrari won't be in those versions but Mas

ErykB

12-12-2006, 19:25

What about downloading cars on PC platform?

gaiozi

12-12-2006, 20:10

Somethings

12-12-2006, 21:57

@ ErykB ==> ok I understand better ! lol thx ;) For the DLC nothing has been decided... they dunno if all cars will be on the game or not... wait & see ;)

@ gaiozi ==> It's in 1024*768 everything at maximum (AA 4x) and HDR off. I think you'll have to pass to 1Gb ram and 800*600 should pass in medium... maybe in 1024 but I'm not sure. I've to test all settings; I've just played with the highest !

LabaLaba

13-12-2006, 07:00

@ ErykB ==> ok I understand better ! lol thx ;) For the DLC nothing has been decided... they dunno if all cars will be on the game or not... wait & see ;)

Tenebra confirmed there isn't a DLC system on PC look at post 250 http://forums.eu.atari.com/showthread.php?t=44927&page=9&pp=30

This propably means the DLC cars will be on the disc like in the beta files.

Is it true that there wont be a demo before the PC release. I've read so. They say it's because they won't have time to finish a demo.

Koenigsegg_CCX

13-12-2006, 11:43

Thanks for the article Something at las i get some information about PC
aaand
What about my PC
1.8Ghz AMD 3000+ = 3.0 P4 intel
2x512 (Dual Channel)
Asus eXtreeme 6800GT 256/256Mb Gddr3 !
Hoping for medium graphics and 800x600 !

Somethings

13-12-2006, 15:39

@ LabaLaba ==> For the demo I just make a supposition. First they answered to this question (to testdriveunlimited.fr) that they won't have time for making a demo and finish the game so... no demo. But we have a BETA test and as you know after a BETA test, generaly, there is a public demo... it's just a supposition, it's possible there will never have a demo and the BETA is just really to test the game and no more. (hope you understand what I mean ;) )

@ Koenigsegg_CCX == > Thanks for reading ;) I think you can set the game to the maximum with AA 4x but no HDR ! With my 7600GS 256mb DDR2 I play with maximum details and AA 4x in 1024*768 : I've at least 17fps in the wheel view in the city ! (so in the desert without skyscraper it's largerly better... ;) ) Your video card is most powerful than mine so I think it'll be good ! (I based my suppositions on the BETA, it's possible that the full game becomes totally different when it will be released)

karakano

13-12-2006, 15:55

Man I really hope I could play this game.
My Comp.
P4 2.80GHZ
1GB Ram (2x512MB but whatever. :p)
128MB 3D Card (Nvidia GeForce FX5600)
Sound Blaster Audiogy 2

I also have an PSP but that can't be an problem lol.

gaiozi

13-12-2006, 16:19

i will bay some ram :)) ugrade to 1GB and i thnik it will run 800X600 in good graphic settings :)

Girrari

13-12-2006, 20:45

Marc_CRX

13-12-2006, 20:57

That Logitec Steering Wheel Looks Outstanding in the Pics.... i want it for the 360

karakano

13-12-2006, 21:03

Buy new GPU.
:( That's the problem... My dad doesn't allow me to buy expensive things... And if I do it needs to be under 20€. So I would NEVER find an Nvidia 6600 under 20€ (Attleast not till 2010)

Somethings

21-12-2006, 20:09

New things !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A "Hardcore mode" has been added in the game (a simulation mode) so we'll have a more realistic driving, there will have informations of the comportment of the car on the screen for each suspensions.... would be great !!!! :atari:

A last thing about the full compatibility of the TrackIR ! ;)

That's all for the moment !

FgxGT

21-12-2006, 20:44

Can't Wait!

gaiozi

21-12-2006, 21:01

Thany

21-12-2006, 21:46

is the hardcore mode for the PC or will the xbox360 get it to in some kind of a patch?

crash0r1

21-12-2006, 23:21

the hardcore mode is already in the pc beta

ErykB

21-12-2006, 23:24

oo that is the best news :)) thanks for telling :)
i love real games :)

Me too! That's a good news but have someone try it in beta and can tell us how it work?

Somethings

22-12-2006, 00:15

the hardcore mode is already in the pc beta

Are you sure ??? where can I verify if it's activated ?

ErykB

22-12-2006, 00:40

Are you sure ??? where can I verify if it's activated ?

So that hardcore mode is in beta or it will be in full version? Can you say something more about it?

Somethings

22-12-2006, 07:47

So that hardcore mode is in beta or it will be in full version? Can you say something more about it?

I don't think that the Hardcore mode is in the BETA.... I didn't found it. Otherwise it will be on the full version of TDU PC.
The article is here (http://www.clubic.com/actualite-67351-test-drive-unlimited-mode-hardcore-et-trackir.html) (in french as usual with me ;) )

Somethings

22-12-2006, 23:45

Here is (finally) the WORLD EXCLUSIVE video of the PSP version.

http://www.testdriveunlimited.fr/index.php?file=News&op=index_comment&news_id=32

Decors don't change a lot but it was a race so... always the same way. We don't have the same graphic quality as on PC or 360 but for a "little" portable, I think it's not bad.
Finally sorry for the bad driving but the analogic stick of the PSP is not the best and need to be used for such time before having the best control !

thanks for reading and let me know what you think about it ;)

EDIT : the hardcore mode is available in the BETA when you reach the Champion rank. ;)

gaiozi

23-12-2006, 08:27

thanks fdor posting :) thas was good video :) i think there is pretty good graphic for PSP :)

Somethings

23-12-2006, 13:52

Finally we got all versions in video : here is the one of the PS2 !
It looks good on that console 32 times less powerful than the 360 ! The screen was saturated color because we were playing with S-video cable so forgive us for the attempt to set the image during the recording !

PS2 video (http://www.testdriveunlimited.fr/index.php?file=News&op=index_comment&news_id=33)

MPH06

23-12-2006, 18:40

This is the first video I have seen of the Ps2 version. But it lifts my hopes as the graphics are not that bad, the interior view is good. Is the date still going to be February 07 or earlier? As I am getting fed up of waiting since July this year. I know it isn't as long as some people have waited for but I showed one of my friends about TDU in September, they bought it for XBOX360 and have been rubbing it in my face since then.

So I am fed up and unless they get a move on I will withdraw my pre-order.
So hurry up Atari :atari: or you will get one angry person :mad:

NWATA

23-12-2006, 18:53

Good read, thanks for that :)
I can see that the 350z Roadster will be in the game now.

AC_Cobra427

23-12-2006, 21:26

Very Nice Video's! :) Could you tell me that song on the PSP Video.

Thank-you,

AC_Cobra427

Firecatman

23-12-2006, 22:09

wtf??? why does the psp version have like the same graphics as the 360 :mad:

Somethings

24-12-2006, 11:22

The song of the PSP video is : Some Might Say by Oasis (It has been changed just before it has been posted ;) ) and if you read the post above the video there is the name of the song lol !
About the graphisms of the PSP version, don't worry it's not as beautiful as the 360, it's just that the screen is smaller so it's possible to have less details without offend for the eye.

Thanks for reading and posting, that's nice ! ;)

AC_Cobra427

24-12-2006, 18:50

MatoSVK

24-12-2006, 23:19

Hey SOMETHINGS! :)
Thanx very much for your information about PC beta!
I have few questions if you dont mind :) :P
You sey you can use the HARDCORE mode when you reach some level....so...have you already reached that level? Did you try the hardcore mode? I am just pretty curious about this little mod becasue all I play and all I love are simulations. GT Legends, GTR2, rFactor or Live For Speed....I also use steering wheel with lutch and H shifter - no its not G 25, I made the clutch and shifter myself :nuts: (I can post some photos if U are interested ::P) so I would love to have realistic physics in TDU!!!!
You also wrote that you played simulations too so I appreciate opinion of someone who knows that NFS doesnt have good physics, but GTL does :P :)
Thank you for answer. :salut2:

Crazed_Dodgem

25-12-2006, 00:20

why do you give the eden link at the end of the PS2 version?

eden havent touched the sony version, credit to PSP and PS2 should go to melbourne house.

FgxGT

25-12-2006, 07:23

Somethings your news are so welcome. Erm...will you be faster with hardcore on or it will be even harder to drive because it will be more realistic?

I bought Momo racing wheel just for TDU...

Somethings

25-12-2006, 23:29

So much answers !!! so good ! thanks all !!!

@ MatoSVK ==> I don't have lot of time for the moment so no time to play to TDU but I'll try to get the Hardcore mode faster anyway... if I can lol ;)

@ Lwsbrck ==> I'm not sure, but is it not Eden Australia who developps the game on PS2 and PSP ??? there is something like that but I don't remember well. Anyway, I think there is the link because (as you can read in the article) the PSP and PS2 versions have been presented by Eden at Lyon (during the reporting), so if they're not the developpers, they participated to the discover of those versions. mdr1

@ FgxGT ==> About the Hardcore mode, when it's on it's harder to drive and phisics of the car are better (more realistic) moreover you got some informations about the comportment of your car (only cars not bikes) you'll be able to see the comportment of each suspensions for example. I'll put a screen of that when I'll have the mode ;)

Thanks to all for posting and it's a pleasure for me to put some news about the game ;) (I'm always saying that but I'm really happy to see how you're interesting about TDU in all versions !)

FgxGT

26-12-2006, 08:31

@Somethings so it'll be like GTR 2 style. Will you be able just to see the setup of the car or you'll be able to change properties of different parts in the car...like tyre pressure, suspension, brake pressure, coast, camber, caster etc.?

I'm fully prepared for TDU rolleyesa

dzidza

26-12-2006, 10:55

same here, i am also lover of sim racing games, it's not going to be easy with hardcore mode but i will be more fun. i am not always to win a race but to participate and have fun. i am get logitech g25 this week, and i will be preparing myself for tdu :) marry xmas

Lato-1982

26-12-2006, 14:17

The hardcore mode is one of the best news about TDU. Thanks for sharing info about it, and when u have the screen about advenced car infos, please post it.
Thanks again :)

dzidza

26-12-2006, 14:32

hardmode rules :bravo: :bravo: :bravo: :bravo: :bravo: :bravo:

Somethings

26-12-2006, 15:01

Well, I'm champion now, so the hardcore mode is available. I spent more than 1.5 million of $ to have it !!!
Here are some screens of it (but impossible to display the graphic during the game.... dunno why.)

You become champion so the game gives you a gift (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061xw8.jpg) . The message explains that I become Champion and to celebrate that, it allows me to access to the circuit of the Island and to the hardcore mode. To activate it I have to restart the game.

So I restart the game, and the menu changes with one more option. (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061ae0.jpg)

you selct it and a first mesage (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061dx7.jpg) appears. this one says :

Welcome to the Hardcore mode.
Warning : you won't be able to access to solo challenges (race, time attack and speed) if you play this mode.

Driving feelings in simulation mode takes all its sense with a force feedback wheel, but is still playable with classic commands.

Tricks and easy ways.
Don't forget to activate the wheel in commands options and to set its sensibility (if you play with a wheel...)
Take care, driving feelings are totally different, grip of tires and breaking distances make control less lenient.
You can still choose to activate some driving aids : Aids on, Sport, Hypersport and none.

Finally a second message (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20061bs4.jpg) appears to show how this mode works and the famous graphic. It's explained that you have to press Ctrl+G during free ride to activate the graphic but impossible to have it on my screen... I don't think I have to translate it's enough clear I think so... tell me if you don't understand something (not me... but about the screen !!! lol)

Well I tested it shortly and I can reassure you, it's realistic. Impossible to make some crazy thing in the traffic at 430km/h. In fact it's more realistic but when you played the game for a long time normally TDU loses its fun. The car becomes heavy and "slow" to move.
I repeat I tested it very shortly (it was 3hours am... :sleep: ) But this first attempt let me to see that sim racers would find their count with training (me inside :chapeau: mdr1 10sur10 :bravo: ). I will try it longer tonight and I'm sure I'll play with it all the time in free ride. mdr1
I'll put a new post with my final feeling about hardcore mode ;)

An other details, don't forget that it's a BETA so this mode can be totally different as all the game when it'll be out ;) !

As usual : thanks all for reading and posting ;) and Merry Christmas too (little late sry :wink2: )

gaiozi

26-12-2006, 15:10

thanks for info thankss :)
good info i like simulator games :)

Kelvjy

26-12-2006, 16:03

Somethings I would like to thank you for the information so thank you.
I was wondering if you can get some pictures of the game like just free roaming or in the dealerships ?
Because I would like to compare them to the xbox 360 version. Thank you again and have fun :p.

karakano

26-12-2006, 21:59

WOW.... The psp hase nice screens eekblue: I hope we get a screen like the XBOX and PS2 meaning IN car. Ore @ the Motorcap... Stil love the video... But could someone confirm me? Ferrari would NOT be in the PSP version? Is this correct?

dzidza

27-12-2006, 22:55

somethings will the be another review from your side?

Somethings

27-12-2006, 23:05

Well guys, I added 12 screens of TDU BETA test in the first post of this thread (Kelvjy I'll add others screens in a dealership later ;) ) I deleted the GPS and the tachometer to have the screen totally free on some screens. One precision the game was in High details with AA 4x 1024*768 no HDR (sorry just a little 7600GS o/c :rolleyes: )

About the hardcore mode, I tried it longer and the thing I can say is it's realistic but TDU loses its charm. I mean driving with other in the traffic is the best part of the game... but when you're alone to break on 300 meters because you have the hardcore mode, it's a little frustrating...
Otherwise, the mode itself is not bad but it's not GTL or GTR. The feeling is good and the car got an excellent comportment in turns. Just one thing strange when you jump, the car seems to fly. It's hard to describe driving feelings... so I dunno what to say about it ! Ask me what do you want to know and I'll try to answer ;) !

Personnaly I think this mode is an excellent idea but only if you play with others players who have the mode on too. TDU is a fun game but I don't think it must be considered as a "serious racing game" as GTR, GTL or LFS.

@ dzidza ==> you mean if I'll give you more informations about the game ????? (sorry my english is limited... :rolleyes: )

Nice reading all :reading: and thx ;)

Lato-1982

27-12-2006, 23:25

many thanks for the screens and info !!!

gaiozi

27-12-2006, 23:34

what can i say ??? thaks thkans adn one more time thanks :)
what is your system specs ?

Kelvjy

27-12-2006, 23:50

Thank you Somethings for the pictures :). I'm loving the Lamborghini Gallardo with the Black paint job and Rims, can't wait to get my hands on pc version and get one :nuts: and the F430 which I must say looks extremely sexy in yellow tonguegre

VertigoSFX

28-12-2006, 00:39

dude, this is great, didn't think any1 would ever be this kind...finally we have some screenies of tdu for the pc, thanks a bunch man

Kelvjy

28-12-2006, 00:51

One more question. Do you know how many people you can see around you at any time ?
Because X360 is limited to 8 and TDU PC could maybe be custimisable depending on people's computer spec like if you had a mid range pc you can set it to 8-10 maybe, but if you have a high end spec pc you could set it to 15-20.

Kelvjy

Somethings

28-12-2006, 00:51

Thanks all ! ;) :chapeau: :bravo:

My PC is not very powerful (I mean doesn't cost 4000$ !)

P4E 3.0ghz
7600GS 256Mb AGP 8x o/c 490/440
2Gb Corsair DDR SDRAM PC3200 Dual Channel

I have 20/40fps all the time... depends on if I'm in the city with interior view or in the desert ! But it works easily in high details AA4x and no HDR (yep 7600GS... rolleyesa ) in 1024*768.

The most important is the ram, while i'm playing, 50% of it is used (near 1Gb) I can advice 1.5Gb or 2Gb to be sure.
If you have a multi CPU it's very useful, I've got hyperthreading and it's full all the time ! First time for me in a game ! mdr1

EDIT : @ Kelvjy ==> It's still limited to 8 people in the "bubble"... once I had 9 but just once in my 60 hours in Hawaii.... you know 8 is not bad when you drive at 300km/h and if no one crashes ! In freeroam you're always waiting for someone because he crashes in a car or he has not 1000HP as you... etc... I think 8 is good !

VertigoSFX

28-12-2006, 01:48

ya im trying 2 get myself a dual core processor, just gotta convince my parents to let me build them a new comp to have an excuse as to why im buying a new processor a year after i bought my current one :)

they've gone down in price a lot

dzidza

28-12-2006, 01:56

@ dzidza ==> you mean if I'll give you more informations about the game ????? (sorry my english is limited... :rolleyes: )

i meant hardcore mode review, thx for reply

ErykB

28-12-2006, 01:57

dude, this is great, didn't think any1 would ever be this kind...finally we have some screenies of tdu for the pc, thanks a bunch man

Not first ;p
http://img302.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdiveunlimited200612kq4.jpg
http://img302.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdiveunlimited200612mu3.jpg
and here some official screens http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=39404&mode=thread&order=0

Yeah I think 8 is good why? 20 cars and more are good in sims where everyone know how to drive but 20 cars in arcade game where most of gamers have 13 years old? It's just a big mess.

Kelvjy

28-12-2006, 02:26

Thanks for the info :) I was just wondering because if you wanted to do a big cruise you can have 15-20 people then because 8 people cruise is small tonguegre

VertigoSFX

28-12-2006, 05:26

owow, i need 2 pay attention to more gaming sites...thanks for that info at worthplaying, definitely gonna check that out

FgxGT

28-12-2006, 09:52

@Somethings: Is it better to play TDU with keyboard or wheel?

Keep us posted! :rolleyes:

gaiozi

28-12-2006, 10:06

ErykB

28-12-2006, 14:16

@Somethings: Is it better to play TDU with keyboard or wheel?

Keep us posted! :rolleyes:

I have wheel and I must say that now Im playing with cockpit view in all games. On keyboard I like to play on the "chasing cam" but TDU have very good cockpits I will play inside the car with my wheel for sure. For me wheel giving more and more game experience than keyboard.

PS Yeah but Im that PC sim racing fan.

MatoSVK

28-12-2006, 19:25

Thank you SOMETHINGS! Thank you for your info...I understand that you cannot describe the hardcore mode physics very well...so I think that the best thing you can do is make your own video with Hardcore mode ON. If you have program called FRAPS..or just place a video camera behind you and show us the physics! How the car reacts in turns...what happens when you smash the throttle pedal in a turn...does it slide? Is the car unstable?
next thing..when moving very fast, it should be more difficult to control..isn´t it?
It would be really cool if you can make a "hardcore mode presentation video" :) ;) ! :chapeau:
but its great to hear that it is realistic...I dont need sim like GTL ...but I dont want NFS! :laugh: :respect: :bravo: :atari: and EDEN! ;)

Somethings

29-12-2006, 16:33

Kelvjy

29-12-2006, 16:40

where I'll be able to post my video ???? (if I can do it! ) ;)

You can try rapidshare or megaupload, and I will upload it to my filefront user if I get it.

ErykB

29-12-2006, 16:56

@ FgxGT ==> Naturally a wheel is better ! ;) You can play with keyboard but with aids on !!! lol

@ MatoSVK ==> I don't have any camera but I've got FRAPS; the little problem is : P4 3ghz and 7600GS !!!!!! I'll try in low resolution and low setting ! And just a details where I'll be able to post my video ???? (if I can do it! ) ;)

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Somethings

29-12-2006, 17:50

lol ok ! thanks ! tup: :respect:

gaiozi

29-12-2006, 18:22

lol ok ! thanks ! tup: :respect:
please if you can give us videos from betaaa :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :bravo:

VertigoSFX

29-12-2006, 19:19

holy **** thats a lot of links u got there

Somethings

29-12-2006, 20:57

ok guys here my first video !!! (yeah !!! :cool: )

near 10mns of driving (50Mo)... I hope you'll see what the hardcore mode changes compared to the normal mode. I did 2 type of driving in my F430 : one with big turns and second with high speed... there are several jumps too (not realistic I think... you'll see ;) )

The link is on my first post, don't forget to let me know what you think about it !

poZzer

29-12-2006, 22:00

thx a lot for the video! :respect:

The driving is really more realistic (without the jumps ^^)
Nice Vid Somethings, I hope you will do others :P

gaiozi

29-12-2006, 22:15

thanks for videoo :) im downloading now :)

VertigoSFX

29-12-2006, 22:44

wow man, thanks a lot, cant wait to see it

EDIT// about to watch

quick question though, im working on my gaming community division site for tdu

in the game, what stats can u track? like is there something that tells u ur individual best 0-60mph time, best top speed, best quarter mile even, stuff like that...if so, what does it let u track

thnx

Somethings

29-12-2006, 23:07

hehe !!! I'm sorry the downloading would be slow... but it's the only website I found with good conditions for free.... but the most important is that you'll have the video one day !!! lol (It seems that the server limits the bandswitch to near 60ko/s so the download would take less than 20mn...) Next videos (if I got time to make it :/ ) will be smaller except if you don't care about downloading time... let me know : long videos or short download ????

@ VertigoSFX ==> Firstly thanks for replying ;) ! Secondly, yes you got the "chronopack" in the game as in the 360 version. You can track the 0-60 mph , the top speed and the 60-0 mph after that you have the spec of the car when you're in the garage (like HP, type of engine....)

Thanks all for watching and replying !

VertigoSFX

29-12-2006, 23:12

ahh ic, and the download speeds werent 2 bad, i got it in 7 min...but lol, good size and loved watching it, u were going so fast, it was sweet

favorite parts, when u were going at ur max speed and u crashed head on into that suv, that was hilarious...and at the end when u went over the guard rails and pretty much rolled the car, cool stuff

PS, i prefer the long videos just cuz u get more, dl'ing doesnt affect me cuz i get real good dl speeds

Diablo_

29-12-2006, 23:13

Alrighty then, first of all Hardcore mode gives you some funky gravity, I mean those were some amazing jumps and distances covered. lol Next is the amazing driving performed by Someone, Somebody ...eh Somethings ! Some killer close calls especially along that fast strip near the old airport and a great sense of speed also. The car moved fairly well and realistically, I had hoped they would improve the brakes though, that sharp squeal when braking gets annoying especially when you just want to cruise around the roads.

I know this probably a stupid question, in hardcore mode can you still choose any of your traction control settings or is this automatically off in Hardcore mode? Also can HC (Hardcore) be used online like normal and will you be able to setup multiplayer races with this option chosen or is it just for the free roam or MOOR aspect of the game. I am waiting to get Hardcore (that sounds wrong) to buy the wheel so the more info the better but thanks a lot Somethings, great video and again nice driving.

PS What wheel you using? :)

Somethings

30-12-2006, 00:15

hehe excellent !!! I was scared that the part in the desert (the begining of this one) seems to be boring because it was "THE PEDAL THROUGH THE METAL" :mad: but the crash is the surprise so I'm reassured ! lol :laugh:

About the download speed, it's maybe because I'm far from the server that I've a slow download... (I'm in France) well if you don't care, I won't care ! lol

The hardcore mode is fun and totally crazy at that speed (crazier when you fly... Hawaii on the moon ???? :p )

@ Diablo ==> ouahou thank you !!! :respect: I'm proud of it now !!! :cool: I agree with you, this breaking noise is boring... you slighty touch the breaking pedal and it's like you're blocking your wheels. In the same time if you slighty break, the lights doesn't work... the car slows down but you can't see the stop lights on :/
About the Hardcore mode in fact you can use it only for freeroam and multiplayers races (you can't finish the game with HC mode because the solo races disappears from the map) I describe/translate messages of the game which explains you how it works here (http://forums.eu.atari.com/showpost.php?p=1001597&postcount=54) .
In freeraom you are with all players even if they don't use the HC too (it's nealy impossible to follow someone who drives in "normal mode"; worst if he has the aids on).
About setting an online race and oblige to do this challenge in hardcore mode I haven't verified it.... but I'll do it !
About the aids, in HC you can use it (these are the same as in normal mode) but the HC lose totally its simulation aspect, but the "moon effect" is still there.
Finally I'm using the G25 in 900° ;) :cool: and I'm in heaven !!!! lol

My favourite sentence ;) : thanks for watching, posting... but I'll never say it enough !

Kelvjy

30-12-2006, 00:35

Somethings that video is cool mdr1 can't wait till I can play TDU it looks like so much fun. I love the 320km/h head on crash with the suv that was hilarious tonguegre and the flying was nice aswell when you flew over the barrier into a tree lol :) Hope you do some more :) I was going to get a G25 but I got a guitar instead :noooo: I'm starting to think I should have got a G25 instead of a guitar lol, but hopefully my momo racing wheel is good enough.

ErykB

30-12-2006, 00:45

It's looking great except the smoke ( too big) and jumps ( wheres downforce?). Hope in full version there won't be so high jumps. Looks great and runs good.

And yeat 322 km\h... wroooom.... and booom!
And he almost kill bird with his spoilers or lights!

madskillz

30-12-2006, 01:05

Thanks for the info ... I did PS2 beta testing and anyone who was involved in the testing would know Melbourne House (now Krome) did the PS2 and PSP versions. Eden handled the PC/360 version ... and as a current tester, the 360 version on a HDTV/LCD projector looks exactly the same as the PC version. It may run a wee bit smoother on a PC, but if you have a 360, and you need to upgrade your PC, I really don't think it's worth it unless you are going to upgrade it anyhow ...

Nonetheless, thanks for the info and just want to get the record straight ...

One more thing ... in the PS2/PSP versions, the clubs aren't like the PC/360 versions - you acrue master points and the more points you earn, the more club invites you get. You race against NPCs and eventually, you become president of the club.

And ... not all of the DLC/cars in the 360/PC version are in the PS2/PSP version. I think it's like 72-75 cars that will be in the PS2/PSP version ...

ErykB

30-12-2006, 02:30

as a current tester, the 360 version on a HDTV/LCD projector looks exactly the same as the PC version. It may run a wee bit smoother on a PC, but if you have a 360, and you need to upgrade your PC, I really don't think it's worth it unless you are going to upgrade it anyhow ...

Sounds good for me.

And are there some replays?

mprox

30-12-2006, 02:53

wow loving those videos and screenshots ;)
i wonder if i will be able to play it on this slow rig ;)
and does anyone know if the pc beta is going to be open for all of us too?

Kelvjy

30-12-2006, 03:18

wow loving those videos and screenshots ;)
i wonder if i will be able to play it on this slow rig ;)
and does anyone know if the pc beta is going to be open for all of us too?

I've read that Eden will not be making a pc demo because they want to get the game out on time.

mprox

30-12-2006, 03:20

ah ok
so "in time" thats February right?

Kelvjy

30-12-2006, 03:26

Yes it is mdr1 I can't wait

mprox

30-12-2006, 03:32

w00t cant wait
really fell in love with this game when i saw that video ;)

VertigoSFX

30-12-2006, 04:29

man, the day they tell us that the game has gone gold, i will be so happy

Thany

30-12-2006, 09:03

somethings could you do another video with more sharp corners and demonstrate the diffrence between normal and hardcore mode? also was this F430 stock or tuned?

Somethings

30-12-2006, 12:14

wow thanks everyone !!!

@ Kelvjy and ErykB ==> Thanks for enyoing the video !!! ;) and it's bad to flout about a crash... lol mdr1 no one have been hurt during the crash.

@ madskillz ==> thanks for those précisions, it's trye that we don't have much info about PS2 or PSP versions which should be similar. About the DLC I forgot to precise this point, not all the DLC will be on those games but a part of it... I mean, as madskillz said there will be near 75 cars in PS2 and PSP and some of them will be in the DLC of the 360 (PC maybe but no informations about DLC for this version) Hope it's clear.... lol

@ ErykB ==> in the PC version there are replays but in PS2 and PSP I don't know... we would have replays on PS2 and PSP, I don't know we couldn't have them ! wait & see ! ;)

@ Kelvjy ==> i confirm they answered in the testdriveunlimited.fr interview that they want to work on the game instead of a demo to get the game out in time ;)

@ others lol ==> Yeah this game gonna rocks !!!! The F430 was not tuned up so it's the original perfs.... enough in HC mode ! ;)

For other video...... let me some days !!! IT'S THE NEW YEAR EVE !!!!!!!!! :chapeau: :chapeau: :chapeau:

Otherwise : thanks for reading, watching... you know the following !!!! :p

FgxGT

30-12-2006, 14:06

@Diablo_ can Somethings upload this video on your host because I'm downloading with 10 kb/s and it keep on disconnecting? I REALLY want to see this video...

MatoSVK

30-12-2006, 17:48

Hey somethings! THANKS for the video! I am downloading it right now, the speed is pretty bad - about 5.0 kb/s
www.rapidshare.de has pretty good up/down speed so maybe you could upload your next videos (if there will be some :) ) there.
I a, looking forward to the video :respect:

Somethings

30-12-2006, 18:08

@Diablo_ can Somethings upload this video on your host because I'm downloading with 10 kb/s and it keep on disconnecting? I REALLY want to see this video...

I sent you an MP with a faster link but I can't share it to all..... it's the host from my internet operator :/ sry !

About rapidshare I'll see it... a lot of people seems to have some pbs with sowloading the file. I don't like subscribing on a lot of website... in fact I needed statistics about files ;)

EDIT : It seems that rapidshare is closed for the moment but it'll be back after the 06/01/07 ! ;)

MatoSVK

30-12-2006, 20:22

Well, i have just downloaded your vid Somethings and it is great! :bravo:
And great driving! :respect:
about the hardcore mode....it looks like the car is more unstable like before..i cant say it for sure because i never played it...but it should call Test Drive FLYING unlimited lol! :laugh: :laugh: That last scene in your video...that "jump" (i realy want to say flight) near the lighthouse was "awesome" :laugh:
I think that this little bug should be fixed and it will be good.
And Somethings, is it possible to slide and drift with this hardcore mode? The F 430 is sticky to the road..but what about cars like AC Cobra or Chevy Camaro Z 28? Maybe you could mak one more video with some American Muscle Car tonguegre :wink2: :)

Yeah next thing, the G 25 works with TDU without a prob? I mean 900°steering, axis clutch, H-shifter..does it all work in TDU? I am realy curious about this because I use a H shifter and clutch for racing games too. (And I never want to play a game without them because its just great!! :nuts: )

MatoSVK

30-12-2006, 20:24

Yes and about your question Somethings (Long videos/ short downloads)
I preffer long videos! :wink2: :)

Somethings

30-12-2006, 20:58

Thanks dude ;)

Hardcore mode is a little strange and it's the only video I'll do with it on ! rolleyesa
About drifting I'm not a pro... especially since I "break" my finger in the wheel in a crash !!! that hurt.... I'll try to make one but in 200°.
Anyway the G25 is perfect with this game, everything works perfeclty no pb for the moment ;) the "back to center is very realistic too when you drive slowly... nothing bad with it ! mdr1 it's normal when you know that the game has been entirely programed with it ! ;)

A little detail, if you drive a car which have a sequential gearbox you must use the paddle shift behind the wheel and the clutch is not useful (in the F430, Enzo, CLK DTM, Lamborghini Murcielago....)

Lato-1982

31-12-2006, 01:18

Thanks for the video !!! It's great that u wanted to share it with us. About the flying thing - it's terrible abd it has nothinmg to do with reality :/ i REALLY HOPE Eden guys will fix this and the car will weight more than a bicykle... cars dont fly half amount of it !!! Looking forward for more TDU PC videos with hardcore mode ;)
Thanks again somethings !

Somethings

31-12-2006, 02:16

Thanks for watching and enjoying the video !!! ;) I found the motivation for making an other in the "normal mode". I'll try to drift with an old Lamborghini Miura because the Camaro or the AC or not available in garages... but remember that I'm not the champion of drifting :/ wait & see it'll coming soon during the next week for sure. ;)

A gift for you, who are know waiting for my second video, 12 new screenshots of the game. Those are in High details but no AA because before the BETA received a patch, I was not able to turn it on without a crash of the game !

Finally a little precision on the screen number 13, it was to show the reflect of an other player's car on mine !!! :nuts: but my car was not reflected on his car...

That's all for now !

VertigoSFX

31-12-2006, 02:44

cool pics! my friend just got a key to the beta and he made a video for me last night, it was pretty funny cuz there was one point when he was driving and suddenly fell underground below the world

later on he was hitting some cars going to fast getting his cop thing up to 3 solid badges and he spun out on the side of the road...and as he pulled forward u see this cop guy jumping up and down like a car with MAJOR hydraulics...and as he moved closer the hood started popping up and down spaztically it was quite funny

im so excited for this game, i hope january flies by, cuz i want to play it so bad!

FgxGT

31-12-2006, 08:00

I saw these great pics and saw that Ferrari F430 max speed is 315 km/h. In your video you were going 323 km/h. :).

@Somethings please make video without HC and with Golf r32 or Audi rs4...

gaiozi

31-12-2006, 12:04

thanks for pics :) very nice pics

Somethings

31-12-2006, 20:15

Hey guys !!!! I got 2 hours to kill so... I made the last 2 videos of the year ! links are in the fist post of this thread.

First is the Maserati 3500GT drifting in the mountain. I chose this car instead of the Miura cause it was less powerful so easier to control... It's a short video but for me it was... crazy to make it ! As you know I'm using the G25 in 900°, clutch and H gearbox for a better control... but this old Maserati is a little... CAPRICIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So please : never ask me an other video like this one !!!! :laugh:
Anyway hope you'll enjoy it...

The second video is in the R32 with the pedal through the metal !!! :mad: and it finishs with a "visit" of the 288 GTO because it was available in the same moment.

Well a BIG thank you to all because we've reached, 1 hour ago, the 1000th downloading of the HC video :bravo: ... wow too much emotions... cry:

Finally, I wish you a Happy New Near, take care of you (or you won't be able to download my future vids lol) and be prudent on the road :p

See you next year ;)

:chapeau: :chapeau: :chapeau: :chapeau:

Kelvjy

31-12-2006, 20:50

Thanks Somethings going to download the videos now will be back to comment :)

Thany

31-12-2006, 21:24

french and powerslideing :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTa6XlXw_sM

for once i agree with J.C. :laugh:

watch it from 3:20 to 5:10.

VertigoSFX

31-12-2006, 21:37

i love tdu, and something's pc beta videos...they make my day

so now i shall download these vids and watch them with excitement and anticipation of TDU

thank you!

HAPPY NEW YEAR

EDIT// so i saw the vids, u can do more drifting tahn i thought, its prett ycool, and that r32, thats a fast little car! loved watching it

except for when u go to get the ferrari and then that ending...EVIL!!!!

:-D dont wanna spoil itfor those who havent watched vid yet

but thanx man, cant wait to see more :)

Kelvjy

31-12-2006, 23:05

Somethings thanks for the videos they were cool :cool: nice driving :) and I love the R32 :D and the Maserati well, thats looks so much fun and I can safely say I will be getting that car when I get the game :D:D:D and I will do some online drifting and cruising :D and if you want you can come and join me aswell and anybody else who wants to come along.

Happy New Year everyone :chapeau:
Kelvjy

LabaLaba

01-01-2007, 09:34

Thanks for the videos :bravo: , but I have one small complain:

Your videos would be perfect without the music, and with the car sounds. I don't want to hear somebody else's favourite music, I wanna hear the cars. Or I can put my own music at the back if I would like to.

Thankyou so much for the vids. Keep up the awesome work :respect:

madskillz

01-01-2007, 16:50

Sounds good for me.

And are there some replays?

I think there were, but I never used the option. I am sure that option is in it ... talk to Something for specifics ...

Somethings

01-01-2007, 18:55

I added the link to a video from testdriveunlimited.fr made by the webmaster. It's a run on the Highway with a black Enzo slighty tuned :p
Link on the first post of the thread in the "Video from reporting" section ;)

Otherwise............................. WHAAAAAAAAT HAPPENED ???? You dare to complain about MY vids ??????? Are you crazy ?????????? :mad: .......
No, I'm kidding ;) In fact I added the music in those two vids in order to make some advert about the Nihil band. It's a french rock band and they sing in english but for the moment they are not totally famous so........ :/ you didn't like the song ??????? rolleyesa

Back to topic, next video will be with the 288GTO because the finish of the R32 is a little... frustrating ! lol

About replays yes there are but I think we don't have enough options to saw them (change camera, fast forward, possibility to save it...)

FgxGT

01-01-2007, 19:10

@Somethings come on, you can drive R32 better than that. This car has a soul. Drive it like F430.

Anyway thanks for the update... :respect:

LabaLaba

01-01-2007, 20:13

Didn't mean to be so offensive
I really appreciate your work :respect: And the music was pretty good actually, but I rather listen to the enginesounds.
:salut2:

Somethings

01-01-2007, 20:29

Didn't mean to be so offensive
I really appreciate your work :respect: And the music was pretty good actually, but I rather listen to the enginesounds.
:salut2:

Yes I know don't worry I was joking ! I want to give you the best video as possible, so I accept with no problem judments of other people, and to finish I'm a big passionate of car (like you I think ;) ) so I perfectly understand when you say that you want to hear enginesound ;) ... you'll love the 288GTO :nuts:

LabaLaba

01-01-2007, 21:30

Yes I know don't worry I was joking ! I want to give you the best video as possible, so I accept with no problem judments of other people, and to finish I'm a big passionate of car (like you I think ;) ) so I perfectly understand when you say that you want to hear enginesound ;) ... you'll love the 288GTO :nuts:
Can't wait :)

VertigoSFX

02-01-2007, 01:47

i like the idea of the music during the showing of cutscenes (car coming out of garage driving to road) and during the opening and closing credits

but the rest, go full blown car sounds!! woot!

btw i did like that nihil band (however its spelled :))

Somethings

03-01-2007, 00:23

Here is the Ferrari 288 GTO. I tried to drive fast and cleanly (just 1 little mistake at the begining but no crash) Hope you'll enjoy it (and there is no music) ;)

Otherwise, I have to thank you for your impressive interesting in the game : the HC video has been downloaded 1660 times, the R32 doesn't have success with 213 downloads and finally the craziest, is the newest Maserati in the mountain with 2092 downloads... wow :nuts:

Have a nice day :salut2:

VertigoSFX

03-01-2007, 01:48

DOWNLOADING! but omg, this server on savefile is downloading mega slow for some reason tonight...I normally download between 400 and 600 kb/sec and now it's going 31.4kb/sec...that's insanely slow...I guess their site is just overwhelmed by the mass amounts of people downloading Somethings videos :)

Diablo_

03-01-2007, 02:50

Something's that was glorious mate, no other word for it, using a wheel takes this game to another leveland I can't wait for the update so I can give £80 quid to Microsoft, ebay the edition of PGR3 I get and buy some beers and sing I belive I can fly while cruising Oahu with a Moose... ahem anywaaaaayy great video, took it's time to download but well worth the wait.

Later !

Need the wheel ! :mad: Need the wheel ! :mad: I'm done. :nuts:

Thany

03-01-2007, 13:25

somethings could you upload the last movie on some other site, i ve been trying to get it for the last day and its allways disconecting me.

Somethings

04-01-2007, 15:50

Hi everyone ;) !

I'm uploading all the vids in an other server : MegaUpload... it seems to be faster than serverfile (not very complicated to beat the 9Kb/s :/) I tried yesterday and the speed was not bad : 300Kb/s So I'll keep the serverfile.com and I'll put the MegaUpload links you'll just have to try/choose one of those two links, it will allow server file to breath ! lol

All new links will be available in 30mns... I'll post again when it's ready. Thanks for your support ;)

Thany

04-01-2007, 16:02

great tnx. well ive eventualy got it today after 4 hours of downloading @ 5kBs :rolleyes: . and no im not on dialup ive got a 2mbit DSL line.

2 questions about the ferrari vid: did you drive in hardcore mode and was the car tuned?

Somethings

04-01-2007, 16:30

Let's go guys a new and faster server is available mdr1
Normally it's largerly faster and you wouldn't have any problems. The MegaUpload videos will be online for 90 days before deleting, so we got time because in 90 days everyone would own the game ;)

Have a nice downloading :p !

EDIT : For server file it's terrible... I was downloading at 3Kb/s. But I think it's normal I've just reached the 5000th download so the server doesn't understand what's happening... poor server lol Anyway it's a good sign for me ! :laugh:

FgxGT

04-01-2007, 16:59

Thanks Somethings... superg

Lato-1982

04-01-2007, 21:26

Please upload it on Rapidshare (if its possible). I cannot download from MegaUpload, cause the limit for my countr (Poland) is always used.

Somethings

05-01-2007, 02:17

Please upload it on Rapidshare (if its possible). I cannot download from MegaUpload, cause the limit for my countr (Poland) is always used.

ooooooooh the megaupload is fast with me... besides megaupload servers are in Europe so it would'nt be a problem for you... strange.
But you know I've still downloaded those vids on 2 servers, so a third will be a little too much for me :/ Did you try serverfile.com ???

Anyway if so much people have problems for downloading, I'll try a third... personnally I think that if you're patient, the speed is not a real problem because the very important thing is to own those videos one day ! no ? ;)

EDIT : tsssss there is a limitation of the bandwidth by country except if you install the toolbar of MegaUpload which is free... :/ Apparently is would accelerate the speed of downloads, allows you to dowload several files in same time... scared about spam or other thing which dirt computers... seriously it's boring me !!! I'll think about rapidshare... :mad:

bosko555

05-01-2007, 12:28

mprox

05-01-2007, 14:16

nice videos Somethings ;)
but in the next videos could you please use the in car view ;)

Somethings

05-01-2007, 14:30

Somethings I'm a little bit corious. Why do u in all your movies have the resolution set on 640x480, the the details on high and the antialasing set on 4x. Wouldn't it look better if you would set the reslotuin on 800x600 or 1024x768 and mybe set the details on medium and the antialasing on 2x.

A am just asking, becuse i have't played TDU, but i have usually video settings in games that are graphic demandig, set like i wrote.

Hi !

I've choosen that setting because firstly my PC is not enough powerful for playing and recording in same time (640*480 gives 15fps during recording with some freeze... not easy to drive) secondly the size of the files are BIG with FRAPS 1 sec of video is near 5.72Mb for the file so just for the 640*480 my 8mn of video gives me a file of more than 2Gb ! (imagine with higher resolution, the file will be enormous !) Finally I think everyone knows how the game looks like with screens and the 360 version, so now I think they prefer watch the comportment of the car instead of the graphics...

If you want the next video will be in "High resolution" (1024*768) but I'm scared that it will be slooooooooooooow and short !!!! ;)

About the in car view, I'll try it, but for the same reasons.... it would be hard for my litlle P4 !!! lol

Thanks for your interesting ! ;)

bosko555

05-01-2007, 15:03

Ah, ok. Didn't know that to film the video takes that much of space.

Then it is better you film the video with that settings, that you have. Yes and you are wright that people have alredy seen how will the good graphic look like i some screenshots.

Thanks for answering and keep up the good work 10sur10 . The time flies a little bit faster when i am waiting for TDU, if i watch some videos of it. So thanks for the pics and the videos :chapeau:

mastermodd

05-01-2007, 15:04

i woudnt be bothered buying the pc version of the game, many of the pc versions of games lack in graphics and other stuff. just go out and buy the xbox 360 its wort it

bosko555

05-01-2007, 15:09

i woudnt be bothered buying the pc version of the game, many of the pc versions of games lack in graphics and other stuff. just go out and buy the xbox 360 its wort it

I think that the graphic of the game is similuar to the one on the XBOX 360 just many of the PC's don't have that much of graphic abillity to fully use the potenial of the game. But the problem is that the XBOX 360 is to expensive for me, like for a lot of people i think. And i think it is not worth it if you buy the console just to play 1 or 2 games on it. So i reather upgrade the PC, for the money i would otherwise spend on buying the console.

Diablo_

05-01-2007, 15:15

bosko if you like racing games though then Forza 2 and GTR are coming out this year for 360 also, couple them with Live plus this game and it's like racing heaven. Plus it will work straight out of the box ! lol

Something's any more videos planned mate ?

bosko555

05-01-2007, 15:22

Yea Diablo_, i like racing games a lot. Most of the games a play are racing games. I did had the ps2, that i know i can't compare to the incredible XBOX 360. But when i bought the ps2 i played some F1 on it and some rally and other racing games, but that was just for 2 or 3 months when i bought it.Then in time the graphic was to weak and so a sold it, becuse it was just lying in my room and i didn't use it. But I can't afford the XBOX 360 wright now, becuse I am doing the driving licence and need money for that :) . But with no doubt is the XBOX 360 also a good choise if you like playing games on consoles.

Somethings

05-01-2007, 20:14

Hi guys !

Well I did a self denial by loosing the statistics of my files.... but the good thing for you is RAPIDSHARE SERVERS AVAILABLE !!!!!!!!! I hope that with 3 servers you'll find your count !!! lol But please try serverfile first, because I'm really curious to know how many times those vids have been downloaded !!! ;)

Diablo to answer you, yes there will be a new video : a chase between a CLK DTM and an A3 3.2 Quattro in 800*600. It was not planned in fact but I was trying new setting and I saw the A3 so.... recording and let's go !!!
Hope you'll enjoy it, I chased him, crashed once in a car but otherwise it would be good. You'll what is lag in the BETA too !!! lol it was fun to make anyway ! ;)

Be patient !

EDIT : I forgot 2 others videos planned : one in "high definition" in 1024 it would be short near 3mn but you'll be able to see what the game really looks like. Finally the second will be in interior view but I dunno which car I'll drive...

Diablo_

05-01-2007, 20:42

Do a CLK55 for the interior view, that car sounds so good and is fun to drive around in. This is a suggestion not a demand, lol.

mprox

05-01-2007, 20:50

yeah and do it till tomorrow pls :D

VertigoSFX

05-01-2007, 22:43

Hey somethings, I beat a race in tdu and checked the global standings, and ironically I saw you listed as the number one time! Nice job! lol, I thought that was rpetty cool.

Grigor626

05-01-2007, 23:06

I'm more of the PS2 guy. lol. I already payed full for the PS2 version. Now I hear that there won't be any Ferraris???? What??? Before I couldn't wait to drive my F430, now I hear they're gone? This sucks!!! But at least we're getting some downloadable cars in the game already. I'm guessing it will have the Murcielago Roadster. Hopefully.

N1PPER

05-01-2007, 23:13

Grigor626

05-01-2007, 23:20

WHAT the PS2 version isnt getting fezzers???

Nope. That's what it says in the info. IT sucks. I'm dissapointed. A racing game with no Ferraris? Come on!!!

And I was thinking of having a garage with only Ferraris. Not gonna happen anymore.

Somethings

05-01-2007, 23:22

New video online on the 3 servers.

Video which shows me in a CLK DTM chasing a car at 1miles away...
You'll be able to see some lags like going through the A3, a deconnection on the first part, a crash in a house with high speed, traffic which disappears in front of me... anyway the fun was there !
at one moment he has chosen an other road than me (look on the GPS)... you'll see how I caught him few minutes later ;)
There isn't the end of the chase because the file became too big but this "race" finished at a paintshop in the city, so we did nears 45kms !

@ VertigoSFX ==> lol excellent !!! Yes, if I remember well it was with the Alfa GT ! I'm proud of it :cool: mdr1

Thany

06-01-2007, 00:42

nice video somethings :) a bit chopy framerate and to low bitrate for my taste but worth the watch :) keep em comming :)

Vorkje

06-01-2007, 02:58

I love the video's mdr1 I personally think the performance is actually really good, if you keep in mind he's recording a video while playing?

This game looks too good to be true, can't wait 'til it's here! :bravo:

FgxGT

06-01-2007, 08:24

CLK DTM AMG I fell in love!!!!http://www.izklop.com/img/smilies/wub.gifhttp://www.izklop.com/img/smilies/wub.gif

Somethings

06-01-2007, 11:55

yeah thank you !!!!!

@ Thany ==> Yes I was obliged to drop the bitrate because the length of the video were so big fot the servers, and I think it seems to be a lower quality because the original was in 800*600 and the encoding turned it to 640*480... anyway the video looks good on my TV !!! :laugh:

@ Vorkje ==> Yes the game turn "easily" on my PC (if you think like me that 18fps in the city with in car view et AA4x in 1024 is good !) In the video I was near 15 fps, sometimes 10 fps... hard to drive !

@ FgxGT ==> It's one of my favourite car ! Nice engine, great comportment, easy to drive... finally she's so sexy !!!!! lol

And finally I can speak about my next video (this one on full definition ==> 1024*768) which is with the CLK DTM too. Yesterday I did a very fast run against a... Maserati MC12 ! I was able to pass him sometimes at 330Km/h... When I say she'd a good engine ! Well it was one of the best run of my short TDU life !!! lol

Later ! ;)

Vorkje

06-01-2007, 13:04

yeah thank you !!!!!
@ Vorkje ==> Yes the game turn "easily" on my PC (if you think like me that 18fps in the city with in car view et AA4x in 1024 is good !) In the video I was near 15 fps, sometimes 10 fps... hard to drive !

btw, Somethings. What kind of functionality do the cars have? I mean functionality as in lights, wiperblades, etc..?

18fps with AA on is not so bad, though I'd like to be able to turn HDR on. That really makes a big difference :) Anyway, as this is still a beta, you can probably expect better performance in the final release.

ErykB

06-01-2007, 13:14

A3 chased by CLK is sweet!! You was runing on Hardcore mode on? Casue I can see there crash into building after lose control on grass.

Diablo_

06-01-2007, 13:43

I don't think it was Hardcore mode as there's usually an H on screen to show this I think. I do believe he was either driving with no aids or Hypersport as many cars will break traction when hitting the grass and throw you across all over. Very nice video though and I really like the sound of that car especially when incar, the engine note at high rev is ear piercing when the volume is high and looking behind you and seeing that carbon fibre wing as you pass the traffic is great.

Somethings

06-01-2007, 15:19

Hi guys !

The High Definition Video is online ! (1024*768 High details AA4x)
The magic CLK DTM AMG is back, and fighting with a Maserati MC12 ! The video is short and a little slow... 8fps during recording sometimes :/ Well I don't have the part when I passed this Crazy MC12 at 330km/h (or just a very little part of less than 1sec because I pushed the recording button twice....I can add it if you want but it's would be ridiculous so I put a screen of it !) moreover the file of those 2mn of video was near 700Mo, and I didn't want to compress too much the video and lose quality.
Well, you can now appreciate the graphics of the game but not the speed ! :laugh:

@ Vorkje ==> you know the functionalities are crazy : you can open/close the windows, you can flash your lights............ that's all ! mdr1 I really regret that the devs didn't added indicators and lights. About wipers, it should be useful with rain ! ;)
Finally, the only video with Hardcore mode is the first (the F430) because it's near impossible to follow someone who is in normal mode and I never use aids (someone who use aids is not a real driver :p )

@ ErykB ==> thanks for watching ! The crash was violent... but no one have been hurt ! In fact I was passing him and he was passing traffic so I was scared to touch. I turned faster but too much, I touched the grass with the pedal through the metal and then... BOOM !

@ Diablo_==> I confirm the H on the screen ! This car is crazy, one of the best enginesounds of the game, smooth control... and the car was not tuned; you saw the real perfs !!! I love her.... :nuts:

Thanks all for your support, enjoy the vids !

dan0h

06-01-2007, 15:32

Somethings - Your videos are awesome! I love the chase with the A3, I bet he thought he'd got away too, great job, made me laugh when you shot past him again on that second stretch of highway!

Your videos are making the wait for release that much easier to manage! I have one small request though... Maybe a bit more of the videos from the real interior cam? Thats what makes this game for me.

Keep up the great work, I'll certainly keep looking at the vids, downloading your new MC12/DTM clip right now!!

[EDIT] Now downloaded, but won't play :( What Codec is it compressed with?

mdr1

mprox

06-01-2007, 16:07

nice videos
keep em coming ;)

and BTW the last video lags like hell...

FgxGT

06-01-2007, 17:03

Niceeeee mdr1 mdr1. Somethings you have my style of driving. :wink: Soon we'll be driving together with our CLK DTM AMGs http://www.izklop.com/img/smilies/wub.gifhttp://www.izklop.com/img/smilies/wub.gif

Vorkje

06-01-2007, 17:39

Hi guys !
@ Vorkje ==> you know the functionalities are crazy : you can open/close the windows, you can flash your lights............ that's all ! mdr1 I really regret that the devs didn't added indicators and lights. About wipers, it should be useful with rain ! ;)

wel.. putting your window down a bit is kewl too mdr1 but idd, with interiors as amazing as these, they should have added a bit more options :) And what are you saying? Does it not rain on hawaii?

Somethings

06-01-2007, 18:13

Great you like it !!!

@ mprox ==> Yeah it lags as hell.... but I informed you about that !!! ;) It's the only video I'll do in "HD" because it's terrible to encode, recorde... and remember one thing : the game is coming soon so you'll be able to play it without lag !!! ;)

@ FgxGT ==> with pleasure we'll meet and drive on Oahu !!!

@ Vorkje ==> yep no rain in TDU... in fact there are lights effects with big clouds, or big Sun ! We'll may have it in TDU2 ! ;)

The next video is arriving : I attract several drivers to the racetrack with my SLK 55 AMG. We were 5 on it and doing laps. I had to go unfortunately because I had stuff to do... but it's 6mn of intense driving with majority in interior view ! here a screen (http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testdriveunlimited20070bs6.jpg) ...

My catch phrase : thanks for watching, enjoying, posting, supporting......... you know what I mean ! ;)

Later

VertigoSFX

06-01-2007, 18:19

Hey somethings, as soon as I get some good cars (my fastest is a Z06 right now) we'll have to meet, actually, why don't all of us schedule a place to meet, get about 6-7 of us and meet somewhere and...I don't know, race or something :) We should do that.

I have a teamspeak if we'd like to chat in a voice comm program while we try to find each other :)

Somethings

06-01-2007, 20:17

yes why not ! About teamspeak I'm not a big fan of it... :/ prefer chat with my fingers lol ! And don't worry about a not very powerful car, we don't need 800Hp to have fun. ;) I still drive with an Enzo and a motorbike while I was driving an Alfa GT ! So choose the car you want, I thought about the Z06 me too (tuned up stage 3). If you want send me a private message to organise that ;)

Anyway let's go for an other video : the little CLK 55 AMG on the racetrack with 4 others drivers (not 5 as I said earlier) Thanks to them for this moment ! ;)

Finally I got 1 thing to say which is very important for me.

I have found my videos on other website in streaming... thought it was clear : DON'T HOST THOSE VIDS ON OTHER WEBSITE, SERVERS........ETC !!!!! BE RESPECTFUL TO THOSE WORDS... I have nothing to earn, but seriously if I say that it's not innocent. When you participate to a BETA test, you have to keep informations "secret"... I know that we can see videos of it on youtube, google video... but I don't want to see my vids everywhere whereas I asked you to not share them. If there is no respect to that I'll stop to make vids, I'm bored to see people who think they can break rules.
Hope you understand why I'm saying, I'm a nice guy but I don't like to see some "I don't care" people who don't respect the hard working.

Thanks for reading and please take consideration about what I wrote.

dan0h

06-01-2007, 21:47

Excellent vid again Somethings, that AMG sounds cool! 10sur10

Thany

06-01-2007, 22:06

the MC vs CLK doesnt work for me. what kind of a codec should I use?

VertigoSFX

06-01-2007, 22:18

I'll send you a PM and maybe next weekend we can do something...we'll make a thread or I don't know, we'll figure something out.

I also wanted to mention I used some info from your main post on my gaming community website, but I made sure to put a link to this thread so they would know of the source. It was just posted as some news, so ya...just wanted to inform you of that.

Somethings

06-01-2007, 23:12

I was sure the AMG will have success !!!

@ Thany ==> for the codec I used the H.264 it's the best which gives you quality and extreme compression ! ;)

@ VertigoSFX ==> ok for the MP, waiting for it ! I dunno what I'll do next week except Monday night won't be possible ! We'll organise all....
About take informations etc... there is no problem... the thing which freaks me out is when I saw what I wrote word by word somewhere else with a Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V and without source; or about vids as I explain before about "what is a BETA"... AAAAAAAH for me it's impossible to do that ! Authors must be named ! I know I can't control everything on web, but what I want is not the most complicated :/

Well Somethings the happy man is back now ! ;)

Ow an other thing, I'll add links for German and Polish versions soon, thanks to those two men for their interesting ;)

LabaLaba

06-01-2007, 23:19

Thanks for the videos somethings 10sur10 .

The sounds on the one with the CLK DTM and MC12 are not in sync with the video. I've tried downloading a few times but the sound comes earlier than the video. No big deal...

I have a little reguest: could you do a ride with the Spyker C8 :nuts: Haven't seen any videos of it, and it seems to be a rarely used car. I can't understand why, atleast I like it very much. If you don't own it, a 2 minute dealer test drive is more than enough.

If you don't want to, or don't have time to do it, it's ok :salut2:

Anyway awesome work :)
And thankyou so much for the vids :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect:

Thany

06-01-2007, 23:32

i have updated my divx to 6,4 and i still cant play it. what kind of a codec pack do you suggest then?

Thany

06-01-2007, 23:58

finaly a video (the CLK 55 AMG) with some reeealy sweeeet high speed drifts and powerslides. please more of that :) i need to get into the open beta really bad.

ErykB

07-01-2007, 05:27

DON'T HOST THOSE VIDS ON OTHER WEBSITE, SERVERS........ETC !!!!! BE RESPECTFUL TO THOSE WORDS...

I'm with that rule.

Hmm you wan't to write something in Polish? I can help you with that.

ZajceV

07-01-2007, 10:08

I'll translate this to the polish, so If you want you can help me.

Lato-1982

07-01-2007, 12:23

Thanks for using Rapidshare this time !!! great video again... The last video doesnt use the Hardcoremode as i know, and one thing i can tell after watching it is that the NORMAL MODE is much more hardcore then the HARDCORE MODE eekblue: - look at the jumps (they look as they should), and the accident when Somethings touched grass with lef rear wheel, and was immedlity out of road.
Hope Eden will work a bit more on hardcore mode, or else we all will play the normal mode :)
Anyway thanks for the video Somethings, the best so far :)

Somethings

07-01-2007, 17:10

Hey men (and girls ??? who knows... ;) )

Thanks for downloading thise vids and enjoying it !

@ LabaLaba ==> it's strange about the sound, I have no problem with it... I use Windows Media Player to read them and I encoded with Virtual Dub, dunno if you'll find a solution with those informations... About the Spyker I'll do it but at first I need... MONEY !!! I'm a poor man in Hawaii ! I'll to do it before next week end.

@ Thany ==> Finally you found the solution !!! great ! Yeah on the racetrack it was soooooo fun ! I had the less powerful car but it was funny to see them at 350km/h with opened windows ! Yesterday I saw someone who was drifting as a god !!! he was with a Saleen S7 and... Hardcore mode on ! I tried to drift with normal mode and it was near impossible... but with HC on it's more easier (need more training... a lot !) If I can see him again I'll film what he's doing ! ;)

@ ErykB and ZajceV ==> Thanks ! But I dunno what to say in fact... we can't do more than we did... I resign myself to try to "control" those informations (Internet is dangerous lol but I love it !) we can't fight with people who don't care about the work done, so just two thing : no copy or translating without explicits sources (links...), authors named and no big deal with videos I don't want to see them on other host than mine to the release of the game (because those vids are from the BETA... I explained earlier about this point) that's all I think !
I had mails from the german version of the article and he said the same, impossible to control everything so... (thanks to him for his friendly collaboration)

@ Lato-1982 ==> Yeah RapidShare is fast and easy to use for everyone. The three servers are used so everyone found his count I think, it's good ! About Hardcore mode it's true I think they should invert some comportment or delete Hardcore mode maybe : the jump are more realistic in normal mode but the car is easier to control in HC mode when you lose it...

Now, all together, my catch phrase : thanks for watching..... mdr1

Later !

LabaLaba

07-01-2007, 19:05

@ LabaLaba ==> it's strange about the sound, I have no problem with it... I use Windows Media Player to read them and I encoded with Virtual Dub, dunno if you'll find a solution with those informations... About the Spyker I'll do it but at first I need... MONEY !!! I'm a poor man in Hawaii ! I'll to do it before next week end.

You don't have to buy the Spyker just because I want a video of it.

I've heard that you can have a free 2 minute testdrive with all the cars from the car dealer. A short 2 minute testdrive video would make me so happy :respect:

You don't have to buy the Spyker, just do a testdrive at the dealer.
Unless you want to buy it...

Thankyou for your work, and time you use to do videos for us
:salut2:

dan0h

08-01-2007, 02:13

And perhaps a few more screenshots? The videos are all awesome, but a few 1024x768 or higher shots of some of the more beautiful cars would be really cool :)

FgxGT

08-01-2007, 09:49

@Somethings, more of that please: :wink:

http://www.in.gr/auto/parousiaseis/foto_big/in_M-B_CLK_DTM_AMG_11.jpg

Thany

08-01-2007, 10:46

somethings, how did you know tha Saleen guy had hardcore mode on? anyway thnx again for the gret vids, just please use the .wmv format i still cant watch that .avi and i've even tried playing it with quicktime which supposedly also has this codec.

mekas

08-01-2007, 16:03

is there any BMW's in the game ? it's my one of the favorite cars :nuts:

Thany

08-01-2007, 16:21

lazy *******. use search and word carlist and you ll find that out for yourself.

mastermodd

08-01-2007, 16:22

is there any BMW's in the game ? it's my one of the favorite cars :nuts:

to answer your question NO there arnt any BMW cars in the game and probably never will be

Vorkje

08-01-2007, 16:42

to answer your question NO there arnt any BMW cars in the game and probably never will be
shame though.. Nothing's more satisfying than driving an M5 :cool:

ErykB

08-01-2007, 17:01

to answer your question NO there arnt any BMW cars in the game and probably never will be

Maybe on PC as a mod. Theres a lot of BMW with coockpit in other PC games ( rFactor, GTLegends, RACE and more). Hope eden make it easy to make mod.

gaiozi

09-01-2007, 12:51

soo what is new ?? :))
if you can give us new scrins :)

zonda_lover

10-01-2007, 05:53

MAKE THIS STICKY PLZ mdr1

Somethings

10-01-2007, 16:59

wow so much impatient men (and girls maybe... ;) )
Sorry I didn't write here sor several days but I've sooooooooo much work to do... so no freetime !
About screens I'll try to make news but as I said, the freetime is missing for that. To vids, I tried to make one with a lot of people around, racing in Highway or anywhere else but I met some problems : as early as I start recording, everyone seems to don't care of their driving style. They have to lead by any maners as possible, so I took so much crashes, no one looks behind if someone is arriving when they come back to road. I try to follow my line as much as possible but no one cares, they have to destroy my car at 350km/h. Same thing for motorbikes, they have all the road to pass me, but no they have to touch my car or make me crash... I don't want a perfect video (you saw in my previous videos that I crashed and it is online anyway) but when you see that comportment of others drivers, plus my little computer not enough powerful for having a perfect driving it gives a very bad video... moreover it's not the real face of TDU.
Anyway forgive me if it takes time...

Well, I keep hope to show you what is TDU, the real MMOR but it's not easy :/ Finally, about BMW I think you got the answer... ;) about Hardcoremode, you can see if someone is driving with it because next to his nickname there is a "H"; the same "H" logo I had on the left side on the screen in the F430 video.

think that's all for the moment... I try to give you news before the weekend but I can't promise anything :/

Thanks all !

Vorkje

10-01-2007, 20:22

I hope the crashing thing doesn't become a big problem when the real version goes on.. I'm sure there are dickheads out there that get enjoyment from crashing other people senseless

Somethings

11-01-2007, 00:24

I hope the crashing thing doesn't become a big problem when the real version goes on.. I'm sure there are dickheads out there that get enjoyment from crashing other people senseless

In fact it happened each time I tried to record a video... even in the try with VertigoSFX, it was impossible to post this video. Nothing clean everyone was lagging and crashing...

BTW I post 26 new screens of the game, such of them are with maximum motion blur setting to have a speed effect. You'll be able to see differents cars (F288GTO lost in the desert, a sprint at 350Km/h against a motorbike on Highway, a Z06, a big Mustang GT behind a little Audi TT...)

Hope this will help you to wait the future videos I'll post (as fast I can... depend of my work :/ )

ENJOY !!!

VertigoSFX

11-01-2007, 01:17

Ya I apologize, there were times when I was running into people on accident, it's taking awhile for me to get used to the way the game plays because it's alot different than Need for Speed (of course in a good way). But it's the first racing game aside from a bit of Toca Race Driver that I've played with a wheel that actually requires you to try and drive.

So about me crashing, I apologize, sometimes it's hard for me to control my own speed :) especially with trying to keep up because most people had faster cars than me :) but now I got stage 3 so I'm good.

We'll have to try it again sometime...and I'll be more careful with my driving and hopefully everyone else will do the same. Because even with the crashs I was enjoying it.

This is to everyone, cruising in this game with 8 people is awesome, as long as you don't crash too much.
(by the way I have a video I made and another I'm working on right now, I'll tell you about em in game or if you can send me a PM, I haven't gotten one from you yet)

Later!

Kelvjy

11-01-2007, 06:14

Hi Somethings loving the videos and the new screens, especially the Audi RS4 shots, I love that car. One quick question aswell if you don't mind. The open beta test do you reckon they could release it as a demo just put a timer on it like 30 or 60 minutes ?

I'm not bothered about a demo it's just an idea. :)

Kelvjy

VertigoSFX

11-01-2007, 06:22

Hey kelv, to answer your question, they've decided not to do a demo because if they were to develop one it would delay the release date of the game...and they want to release it on time.

Kelvjy

11-01-2007, 06:40

Thank you VertigoSFX for the reply. I already knew that they were concentrating fully on the game and not on any demo. It's just an idea, i'm not expecting them to do it I was just wondering. I'm not bothered about a demo anyway because hopefully I will get chosen for the open beta test :nuts:

Lato-1982

11-01-2007, 14:10

Sorry but how to use the H264 codec? i downloaded the x264.exe file (wich is a freeware codec that should decode it). I cannot install it, to run help i need to use "cmd.exe" commands! - What should i do to watch the hi res video? Im counting on u :)

Somethings

11-01-2007, 14:50

@ VertigoSFX ==> lol I was not attacking you !!! You are one of the rare driver who didn't crashed in my car ! I just take the example of the attempt we do with 8 people around !!! ;)

@ Kelvjy ==> In fact the BETA test is the complete game without downloadable cars on the 360 version (so no RUF for example) we can play all the time we want if the game doesn't crash !!! ;)

@ Lato-1982 ==> The x264.exe is the encoder if remember well, to decode it you need an MPEG4 decoder... I didn't found it alone but you can use a codecs pack (as satsuki decoder pack... if I'm not wrong, the FFDShow can decode it) It's a recent codec so not really used for the moment except on GameTrailers.

FgxGT

11-01-2007, 15:46

Picture #31...351 km/h with CLK DTM AMG...Superb!

VertigoSFX

12-01-2007, 01:14

Somethings

12-01-2007, 13:02

Ya somethings I knew you weren't getting on my case, I just had to throw that out there because I was in fact not driving at my fullest potential...I hope we can get some good footage sometime though, in the near future, that would be great.

People would love to see some clips of another one of our 70 mile cruises (I figured we drove about 70 miles because I had 71 miles on my lamborghini after the cruise, and I had just bought it :))

Ah it's ok !

Anyway I've got (bad ?) news to BETA Tester : the closed BETA test will ended the 15th january... to turn to an open BETA test !
I'll try to make some videos as fast as I can before the BETA is ended in case where I won't be able to continue to the open BETA test ;)

gaiozi

12-01-2007, 14:50

thanks for all videos and screanshots you did just great thing :)

Vorkje

12-01-2007, 20:04

Ah it's ok !

Anyway I've got (bad ?) news to BETA Tester : the closed BETA test will ended the 15th january... to turn to an open BETA test !
I'll try to make some videos as fast as I can before the BETA is ended in case where I won't be able to continue to the open BETA test ;)
Does this mean the open beta comes a few days early? weirdblue

FgxGT

12-01-2007, 20:57

Does this mean the open beta comes a few days early? weirdblue

Nothing bad with that! :wink:

VertigoSFX

13-01-2007, 01:13

I figured they would just carry the current users over and just give out more keys, oh well, guess not, all my progress will be lost! I'm looking forward to see what bugs have been fixed with the open beta...and hopefully i get to try it...au revoir!

Vorkje

13-01-2007, 01:46

Nothing bad with that! :wink:
duh, some serious counting down going on here dude :) It would be really cool if it came available on the 15th or 16th mdr1 mdr1 mdr1 mdr1 mdr1

Crazed_Dodgem

13-01-2007, 03:37

out of curiosity, is TDU online limited to broadband users (as Xbox live is) because Dial up opponants will (i imagine) completely bugger up sessions, and may be responsible for the jumpiness in the beta

rtsbasic

13-01-2007, 12:13

Somethings

13-01-2007, 15:06

I don't know how and when it will change... I just keep hope that us, current BETA testers, will be able to compare between those two versions of the game and see the evolution of it.
Concerning the Internet connection, I seriously advice a broadband connection... I saw several persons who laged as hell, goes through the car, were in front of me and behind by magic.... it was totally ruining the game :/
After that everyone knows that the server was not very good so maybe it was a problem from that and not from the connetion of the driver (not clear... tell me if you don't understand :rolleyes: ).

Finally I prepared one vieo with a Lamborghini Gallardo, Murcielago and a Saleen S7 on the Higway. You'll see the difference between Hardcore mode and normal mode (the Saleen was in HC on). I'll record the Spyker video tonight and to finish a Z06 Stage 3 would be good to show ;)

Have a nice day !

EDIT : OMG...... I've just reached the 13 000th download on server files.... wowowow it's totally crazy !!! I'm sure that I'm largerly above the 20 000 or maybe the 25 000 download with those three servers... THANKS A LOT ! Imagine if I taxed my video 1$ each time you dowloaded it I could... noooo I'll never do that ! lol
thank you again :cry: (emotion moment...)

VertigoSFX

13-01-2007, 18:57

Somethings

13-01-2007, 19:10

LOL somethings, and yes I experienced the major lag of other players the other day too. I was making a video of the Kawasaki Ninja on the highway doing wheelies and I was standing still you know showing the awesome "in-helmet" view and all of a sudden this dude with his ME-12 drives up to me attempting to hit me but goes straight through my vehicle, it was quite funny actually.

I'm gonna have that video finished today, was just trying to get a small file size with decent quality but I'm just gonna go for an all out 150MB file size :)

If you would like I can post link here when I'm done, it's got a Kawasaki Ninja, my Lamborghini Murcielago and my Caterham.

It must be the server so...
I'll add your link on my first post with your name... etc :cool:
My vids will come tomorrow but I can't promise it. The Spyker is recorded and ready to be encoded. The Z06 should be done tonight and I think I'll make a final with the top speed of the Koenigsegg Stage 3 at.... 430Km/h !!!

Well everyone, TDU is arriving very soon now ! :chapeau:

VertigoSFX

13-01-2007, 21:51

I removed this video because of the disagreements within this thread.

tenebra_uk

13-01-2007, 22:00

May I remind the beta testers that you are allowed to say close to nothing about the beta?

Somethings

13-01-2007, 23:21

May I remind the beta testers that you are allowed to say close to nothing about the beta?

Seriously... make a search on the web : videos, screens and others informations about the PC BETA TEST are EVERYWHERE (youtube, GoogleVideo, MY video.com .... etc) you can see them everywhere. I did it when I saw that everyone post videos and screens on Internet so Why not me ? and I'm sure this is not a bad billing... I mean, everyone enjoyed it and I made them in order to reassure future TDU players : the game looks awesome ! (ATARI/EDEN don't want to show their wonderful work whereas we had news all the time for the 360 version :/ )
Moreover, informations I gave are only on this forum which is official (if I exclude the exclusive reporting on testdriveunlimited.fr)

Finally, isn't it a little late to say that ????

EDIT: VertigoSFX I'll put the link in my first post with your name etc... nice vid anyway !!! ;) What are you PC's spec ?

VertigoSFX

13-01-2007, 23:52

256mb x800pro
2gigs ram
2.4ghz amd athlon 64 3500+ single core

Girrari

13-01-2007, 23:56

If they didn't want beta testers to release any kind of informations, they would done things differently. This way they a have great publicity.

tenebra_uk

13-01-2007, 23:57

Me being my naive self, I thought that people would stick to their NDA's at least to a point. I am all for a bit of buzz, but this is really showing complete lack of ability to keep confindential things confidential. If this is the way it's going, I will sadly have to show Eden what is going on, just as simple as that.

Thany

14-01-2007, 00:06

ten, why are you reminding the betatesters about that more then month after this thread starteed and 2 days until the beta closes? a bit late dont you think?

tenebra_uk

14-01-2007, 00:35

Somethings

14-01-2007, 01:55

Sure, obviously you need constant checking like toddlers. Now I know, cheers. I expected that NDA'ed people would stick to their word - and contract. Thumbs up to you, well done. I shall treat everybody like 2 year olds from now on rolleyesa

I take my responsibility for trusting people who are not trustworthy, be sure it won't happen again.

Don't be offensive by comparing (treating ?) us as toddlers; you just have to admit that there's nothing illegal when some BETA testers show what the game looks like. Devs have everything to earn by our "work" (I mean this is free advertising for them...). TDU PC is not a confidential game because it's the same as the 360...
Btw, even if I had signed up the NDA, I did those videos 1 month after the releasing of the BETA test because an impressive numbers of vids of the BETA were available on several websites; you can easily verify that.

tenebra_uk

14-01-2007, 02:01

Somethings

14-01-2007, 02:16

Mr Somethings, shall we go through your NDA and see how you followed it? Shall I remind you that it's actually a legally binding document?

I had so much trust in you guys that I didn't even check you out after a week or so. We'll see what to do about it.

I don't need to read the NDA again, don't worry, I perfectly know in what I engaged myself...
If you require to delete all vids/screens and other details because you consider it's offensive to the game and devs I'll do it, but keep in your mind that it won't be the best ad you'll make to ATARI after they denying the obvious that PC gamers need informations about TDU :/

tenebra_uk

14-01-2007, 02:36

Somethings

14-01-2007, 02:51

No, please, post your NDA and let's see how much of a nasty person I'm being, since according to you guys it's always me spoiling the fun. Please do.

You say there is nothing wrong about disclosing confidential information, to my knowledge you were asked to sign a legal document asking you to keep secrecy?

I came to the TDU page to found the NDA and I didn't found it...tell me where I can obtain it again.

Anyway tell me exactly what do you want I do, because I don't want to turn around too long.... if your objective is to delete this thread because it's not respectful regarding the NDA, well, do it and I'll understand.

EDIT : I found it finally... I don't agree with you : I never disclosed the NDA, because everything I wrote on the thread was not confidentials things or not generally known informations (NDA article 5). All videos and screens I made show things that everyone knew. Same thing about the Hardcore Mode, I discovered it with a information from clubic.com and I tried to unlock it after (verify my post and the date of announcement).
Tell me if I'm wrong and I'll do the necessary, otherwise I'll continue normally (as I did until now) to inform forumers about TDU PC.

dzidza

14-01-2007, 03:25

I must say that i agree with you both, because if you sign something you should stick to what you signed. On the other hand this is the best publicity for the game, i even bought g25 month earlier because of the information and videos i saw here and i'm going to buy the game, plus i am creating a buzz with my friend to others. As mr. Kotler said that buzz is a great way to promote product. I must say that i don't understand to logic behind atari's marketing people because this is not a experimental product this is 99% finished (great) product, this game is more expected to Pc gamers (at least for me) than gtr2,lfs or other ( witch are also great games).Pc gamers never had this kind of a game (free roam racing multiplayer).I will spend more time playing this game than gtr2, even if it isn't that realistic as gtr2. People are waiting this game a few months or more and they want to get as much info as possible, those videos are keeping us alive. To make a long story short, don't fight over this, concentrate how to make this great game even better, the "damage" has been done, Next time don't make a beta testing and things may be better for atari but for gamers, lack of info or shortage of them is really bad. There is nothing worst then buying things that you didn't try.

Eden keep making great games and Somethings next time do what you have signed to do.

EDEN 10sur10
Somethings 10sur10

VertigoSFX

14-01-2007, 04:20

Tenebra, I respect everything you do on these forums. I have to say your the one person that's given us official information about the game that no one previously could...that's the reason I started visiting these forums was because of the information you give.

Then I came across Something's thread and I was like, wow this is amazing, information we've NEVER seen before about the PC version because honestly, we've recieved words about it, but no real videos or screenshots except for a few random one's around the web here and there.

So what I want to say is this. Yes, posting this thread can be looked at as breaking the non-disclosure agreement but it was bound to happen because of the lack of information we've recieved. I mean the game is coming out in a month and we have yet to have official system requirements, it's not needed anymore because every pretty much knows generally what they need but we never got it officially.

This thread has done a lot of good to help out Atari's sales and to boost the communities moral. Because Something's has been giving us information we haven't gotten allowing all these members to get even more excited about the game than ever before AND I can guarantee Atari has gained a lot of sales just from this thread.

I also wanted to point out that as of now this thread has 222 posts and 9,034 views, that's alot of people getting hyped up about the game. So considering this thread has benefited Atari/Eden more than it has hurt them, I don't see much fault in it, besides the fact that the NDA agreement has been somewhat broken...it was broken for a reason and a good reason at that. I would just say that continued information of the PC beta should halt and from now on leave it to you (tenebra) and the official Atari/Eden employees to bringing out the information.

I myself will not be giving out anymore information until the game is released, my comments here are ending and will be limited to just general chat.

Have a good day.

FgxGT

14-01-2007, 08:32

@tenebra thanks a lot, really... madred: madred:

Like VertigoSFX sad a lot more people who saw this tread will buy this game just because our hero (http://www.izklop.com/img/smilies/respect0.gif ) Somethings has shown us how good this game is...

You can all bow to him... Somethings and VertigoSFX RESPECT!

MOFERT

14-01-2007, 10:19

On the other hand this is the best publicity for the game, i even bought g25 month earlier because of the information and videos i saw here and i'm going to buy the game, plus i am creating a buzz with my friend to others.

Have to agree with you on this I also bought me a g25 for this game after I read here that this could be fully used in the game. And I orderd TDU for the pc in August las year already. Bin waiting for it for al so long :noooo:

dan0h

14-01-2007, 12:23

I was under the impression that Somethings was acting almost in some official capacity, especially after his trip to Atari/Eden in france - I guess not. I managed to get a key for the closed beta last week and have been playing ever since, and after reading the NDA it is clear that basically nothing should be disclosed, let alone screenshots and video.

That said however I do sympathise with the cause as information on TDU PC has been more rare than chickens teeth, and the PC community is chaffing at the bit for this game and it needs to be hyped up. I was tempted to post a few bits from the game, but thought better of it, clocking the fact that an NDA is legally binding.

Its a tough one to call, tecnically the thread is a breach of NDA, but it has had a lot of positive effect for TDU PC, until I got the beta, it was my only source of information, and a place I would zip into every day incase their was a new update.

tenebra_uk

14-01-2007, 12:29

If a developer requests an NDA there is a reason. If confidentiality wasn't such an issue, people wouldn't go as far as requesting a legal document. Whilst, as I have already said, I don't mind the odd bit of info leaking out, treating an NDA like a piece of toilet paper is a not acceptable.

The official information will be released in a few days.

Somethings

14-01-2007, 13:01

Ok, I stop everything about the game. The NDA is here (http://rapidshare.com/files/11647010/NDA_ATARI_BETA_TESTING_AGREEMENT.doc.html) everyone can download it and see that there is nothing illegal. The NDA is not a piece of toilet paper and this thread like all vids on the web are not disclosing the NDA, everyone just have to read about the definition of the terms "confidential information" in the NDA and it is clear... an other detail, I don't want to be in trouble, so I delete informations you consider illegal; I'll put them back when the game will be released.

Thanks everyone for your support...

|**.Somethings.**|

rtsbasic

14-01-2007, 13:03

I'm been watching this thread develop and was wondering if the topic of NDA was going to come up, this thread should be locked and links to the videos etc removed, if the developers wished for such a large amount of information to be leaked they wouldn't have required you to agree to an NDA. If you want to talk about the closed beta there's a dedicated place for that, you know this.

LAMBOSE99

14-01-2007, 14:04

Why did you take all vids off? and pictures.

Somethings

14-01-2007, 14:12

Why did you take all vids off? and pictures.

Because it's currently the subject of discording !!! It shouldn't be a good thing if I let them on the forum whereas there is a problem of lawfulness... I really don't want to be in trouble. But as early as it's more clear or when the game is released (depend on if this thread got a part outlawed or not...), I'll put them back. :/

LAMBOSE99

14-01-2007, 14:19

Because it's currently the subject of discording !!! It shouldn't be a good thing if I let them on the forum whereas there is a problem of lawfulness... I really don't want to be in trouble. But as early as it's more clear or when the game is released (depend on if this thread got a part outlawed or not...), I'll put them back. :/

Thats not fair.

Lato-1982

14-01-2007, 14:21

Thanks to Somethings I started to visit this forums again... We had no info about PC version before, and I started to dont care about TDU anymore. thanks to Somethings I m impatient waiting for the game again. So if Eden wouldnt treat PC gamers like this, and give us some more info (official screens, movies) this whole situation wouldnt happened.

And tell me why before the XBOX360 version, we could have tons of info and it was ok?

Anyway:

Somethings: Great thanks for your work, that gave me so much fun, while waiting for TDU PC.
Tenebra: I understand your point (but i really dont understand Eden guys > but true artist like them, can behave strange sometimes :) )

Regards - waiting for open beta :)

FgxGT

14-01-2007, 15:09

Yeah Somethings I also want to thank you for all your videos. Hope I see you on server so we'll be driving together. Thank you again.

Somethings

14-01-2007, 17:05

I contacted the administrator of testdriveunlimited.fr . His website work in collaboration with ATARI/EDEN so several devs comes regularly on it and they never complained about posting a video of TDU PC BETA test... so if they said nothing, that means it's legal to post videos/screens and as I explaind in previous posts they're not "confidentials informations"...

I'll try to contact ATARI tomorrow in order to clear that situation... a reaction about this thread 1 month ago is not very serious...

Thanks all for your support and I'm sure you'll be able to see new vids soon ;)

tenebra_uk

14-01-2007, 21:16

Somethings, I think that the NDA is pretty clear, and note the part in bold

5. Protection of Confidential Information. During the course of performing your obligations under this Agreement, you may have access to computer software, game concepts, storylines, methods, features, business methods or other technical or business information which is not generally known and which is proprietary to Atari or to parties affiliated with Atari ("Confidential Information"). You agree to treat as Confidential Information all information concerning the Game or of which you are otherwise made aware in connection with performing your obligations under this Agreement, including without limitation, the Feedback, and any technical or business information Atari may provide to you in connection with this Agreement, regardless of whether it is specifically designated as confidential and regardless of whether it is in written, oral, electronic, or other form. The Confidential Information may include, without limitation, trade secrets, know-how, inventions, game interfaces, technical data or specifications, testing methods, business or financial information, research and development activities, product and marketing plans, and customer and supplier information. You agree that you shall maintain all Confidential Information in strict confidence; you will not disclose Confidential Information to anyone other than an Atari employee or an Eden Games employee, or discuss Confidential Information with anyone except within the game itself or on the official beta boards; and will use all Confidential Information only for the purposes stated in this Agreement. You agree to maintain all the Confidential Information in confidence during the term and after termination of this Agreement, and agree not to disclose or permit access by any third party to any Confidential Information, unless Atari in writing expressly permits you to do so.

Somethings

14-01-2007, 22:06

Somethings, I think that the NDA is pretty clear, and note the part in bold

same here : what you put in bold is about confidential informations and the definition is ==>

5. Protection of Confidential Information. During the course of performing your obligations under this Agreement, you may have access to computer software, game concepts, storylines, methods, features, business methods or other technical or business information which is not generally known and which is proprietary to Atari or to parties affiliated with Atari ("Confidential Information"). You agree to treat as Confidential Information all information concerning the Game or of which you are otherwise made aware in connection with performing your obligations under this Agreement, including without limitation, the Feedback, and any technical or business information Atari may provide to you in connection with this Agreement, regardless of whether it is specifically designated as confidential and regardless of whether it is in written, oral, electronic, or other form. The Confidential Information may include, without limitation, trade secrets, know-how, inventions, game interfaces, technical data or specifications, testing methods, business or financial information, research and development activities, product and marketing plans, and customer and supplier information. You agree that you shall maintain all Confidential Information in strict confidence; you will not disclose Confidential Information to anyone other than an Atari employee or an Eden Games employee, or discuss Confidential Information with anyone except within the game itself or on the official beta boards; and will use all Confidential Information only for the purposes stated in this Agreement. You agree to maintain all the Confidential Information in confidence during the term and after termination of this Agreement, and agree not to disclose or permit access by any third party to any Confidential Information, unless Atari in writing expressly permits you to do so.

here it's clear.......

SinSilla

14-01-2007, 22:46

Somethings

14-01-2007, 23:04

The Problem is that you can´t say "It´s gernerally known because it was in the xbox360 version"

It COULD have been that the pc version is different, so ALL information regarding pc version isn´t generally known...so part of the nda.

Nevertheless ive been watching all of your vids and i do appreciate the work you did for the tdu pc community...

Yes it's sure, but since the announcement of TDU PC version, devs explained that it will be a "copy" of the 360 version... an other thing, we were able to see reporting of other websites (clubic.com, testdriveunlimited.fr etc...) we saw vids of the game and it was the same as the 360 version and I post my vids after that.... well everyone got a different opinion about this subject.

Btw I won't answer to future provocations on this thread and I'll wait for the answer from an official from ATARI...

Thanks all for your support, I'm really touched to see that ! ;)
To conclude you can find a new video of the PC BETA made by the admin on testdriveunlimited.fr with a torrent file ! ;) I'll ask Fabien if he'll be ok to post mine too... keep an eye on testdriveunlimited.fr, who knows what it could happen !

See you on Oahu !

|**.Somethings.**|

Vorkje

15-01-2007, 00:31

It's a shame to see things work out this way, |**.Somethings.**|. Basically the best topic on TDU has now been killed rolleyesa tdown:

Anyway, thanks for all the hard work and answering of all the questions dude 10sur10

tenebra_uk

15-01-2007, 14:16

N1PPER

15-01-2007, 14:18

ErykB

15-01-2007, 15:55

Following communication with Atari Europe, I can confirm that the Non Disclosure Agreement stands and beta testers are invited to refrain from disclosing confidential information or showing in-game video.

It's internet so you gonna see those videos anywhere else on the other forums. And I can say theres nothing to fear TDU PC Beta have big interest on every forum! So it's controled leak.

And I got a question about open beta how what I need to do for get a key? Where it will be able to download? Are there some keys for Atari Forum users :p ?

And last important thing what is final car list in PC? Are we going to get cars that are done and was in DLC cars for X36 long time ago?

PS everybody says that TDU gonna own last games from NFS series.

dzidza

15-01-2007, 16:07

PS everybody says that TDU gonna own last games from NFS series.

Gonna own!?, last 3 nfs were sh**ty, so it isn't that hard to beat nfs :)

supra_power

15-01-2007, 16:15

indeed nfs is sh*t after Underground..

1 more week for the open beta :nuts:

tenebra_uk

15-01-2007, 16:20

I wouldn't use the word "illegal" as Somethings acted in good faith and certainly not for a financial gain, still Atari and Eden have formally requested that beta tester should keep confidential information confidential (anything that hasn't been officially announced is to be regarded as confidential).

I hope this clarifies and that the beta testers out there who don't have written permission from Atari withdraw any confidential information from their websites.

N1PPER

15-01-2007, 16:27

I wouldn't use the word "illegal" as Somethings acted in good faith and certainly not for a financial gain, still Atari and Eden have formally requested that beta tester should keep confidential information confidential (anything that hasn't been officially announced is be regarded as confidential).

I hope this clarifies and that the beta testers out there who don't have written permission from Atari withdraw any confidential information from their websites.

that makes it clearer, i wont breath a word, as i have recently got hold of a key and the beta :nuts:

supra_power

15-01-2007, 16:45

that makes it clearer, i wont breath a word, as i have recently got hold of a key and the beta :nuts:

the closed beta is offline right ?

or do you also need a key for the open beta ?

SinSilla

15-01-2007, 16:53

Wrongt Thread, and you know that...cause you were already posting in the right one.

YES its offline or at least it´s going to be today and the open beta will start at 22.January with 25.000 Keys. Client not available yet, RegLink not available yet.

Seems that this game makes people damn crazy...those information are all over the forum in almost every single thread, don´t know how one can miss that. ;)