Off Topic But This Is Annoying Me! [Archive]

Marc_CRX

10-01-2007, 13:00

I Suppose its all really a Matter Of Opinion....Some People Hate Xbox and Vise Versa For Playstation....me....well i love both and i will be getting a PS3

The PS3 May Sound Like a Better Peice of Kit...with a Blue Ray Player Also Has Wireless Controller....Free Online Play....Gran Turismo HD :nuts:

But it Cost's £500 and Because of The Blue Ray...The Games are Going to Cost Stupid Amounts Of Money

look At it This Way Blue Ray DVD Players - £800
Blue Ray DVD's - £50.....£50 For a ****ing DVD :mad:

Anyway....i Have Heard (I Think it was on This Forum) That M$ are going to Be Doing HDMI Packs for the 360???? If So It will be Every Bit as Good as The PS3

SupermAnthony

10-01-2007, 13:01

Well, for a start no it wouldn't .... me off. And why? Because I can think for myself. It's personal preference really. Already there are games out for both 360 and PS3 that, while they are the same game, have their strong points on both systems.
Go to the Gamespot website. They have done a feature on the strong points of both systems on the same games (eg. Call Of Duty 3). The only advantage I can think of with the PS3 is the six-axis remote. But then again, it's disadvantage is the insane price. I haven't decided whether or not I'm going to get a PS3 yet. One thing's for sure though: if I do, I'm keeping my 360! I won't be getting it brand new either. It's a lot more money than the 360 for what is essentially the same system!

UKJim

10-01-2007, 13:03

well, you think how long the 360 has been out, and yet they are still fixing slight bugs and fixes.

When the PS3 comes out, I dont care what anyone says, its going to be buggy and maybe random crashes will be frequent. They will have to patch it etc etc...

So possibly better in long run, but not better as soon as it has been released.

Just my opinion.

CJYorkUK

10-01-2007, 13:10

^^ What he says.
When it comes out its going to be expensive, hard to get hold of, and loads of problems.

AdamEnzo

10-01-2007, 13:11

alright cheers.... we will just have to wait and see i guess... MS has some advantages... i had GT4 for ps2 when i had 1.... it was good upto a point..... it gets boring endless and the cars dont feel like they are in tact..... then played forza.... it was better in many many ways except graphics..... i.e body kits bla bla bla... Ferrari Porsche all that! was class! forza 2 has lambos.. i hear :nuts:

crappucino

10-01-2007, 13:14

As a games console the deciding factor has to be what games are available. I think it's already clear at this stage that there's little difference in performance between the 2 consoles so it's down to whatever exclusive titles float your boat (a lot of these have already melted away, like GTA).

When you look at what you get in the PS3 box at this point you're actually getting a lot of bang for your buck bearing in mind that even a BD player for your PC will set you back at least 400 quid... which is handy if you want Blu-Ray - not everyone does as they just want to play games.

Looks like M$ is planning to release a hdmi enabled 360 but this will probably be mid 2007 earliest when the 65nm chipsets are expected to be available (this should mean a cooler running console). It is important that they do this because when movie studios start implementing ICT (Image Constraint Tokens) on hi-def movies it will force downscaling of resolution over unprotected AV outputs like component. In other words it would be a waste of time having the add-on HD-DVD player.

ssj5gogeta

10-01-2007, 13:28

i mean the 360 you can turn your console on from your controller... how cools that! what do you guys recon... :nuts:

You can do that with the 360, Wii AND PS3 :nuts:

AdamEnzo

10-01-2007, 13:33

yeah but cmon the wii is pathetic... i played one 2days ago was fun but horrible the graphics are no better than the gamecube i call it the worst creation ever made by who ever made it lol dont know much about computers see lol

SupermAnthony

10-01-2007, 13:44

The Wii was never about the graphics (eventhough the Gamecube's graphics were [and still are] good). It's all about the gameplay.

Stevo71

10-01-2007, 13:44

the 360 and ps3 will both exist happily together. on paper the ps3 is technically better, but stuff just doesnt work like that. people rant on and quote figures about the processor etc. but dont be fooled. the 360 really isnt that much behind.. there are loads of videos flying about comparing the same games on both consoles and the 360 looks better on a lot of them..

the 360 community is it big plus point.. with the price being so high on the ps3 i really cant see the ps3 community being so big, so i think xbox live!! will reign supreme

But:

as a plus point for ps3 owners. theres gonna be so much interaction between the ps3 and psp. like being able to download ps1 games on a marketplace style setup and then transfering them to your psp.. this is just one thing im looking forward to.

But:

cost wise the ps3 is ridiculous. everybody goes on and on about about blu-ray, but is it really a proven platform. anyone remember Sony's past attempts ??

Betamax , mini disc , UMD ??

all these platforms were technically amazing but still failed to sell.. could blu-ray be the same ??

so theres plus points for each machine.. only time will tell.

personally if Sony fanboys think MS are gonna just lye back and let Sony try to take over, theyve got another thing coming.. uncle Bills got some very deep pockets mdr1 ,and hes already got the market lead

AdamEnzo

10-01-2007, 14:02

WOAH now that was some nice words stevo! your 100% right.... i agree with everything its not as if bill is poor... its going to be an endless battle of MS vs Sony.... there will be a point sometime where you just cant get any better.........

adj92

10-01-2007, 14:06

i think MS could stay in the competition in the online part as they could put more offers on and release more download content and maybe lower the price a little

Diablo_

10-01-2007, 14:13

BTW Blu-ray movies are about £2-3 more than DVD's so no £50 rubbish, don't believe me check Play.com and my god the picture quality is truly unbelievable especially when viewed on a 1080p set.

Of note sales thus far are; 360 10.4m, Wii 4.1m and PS3 1.7m, incredible that after only a month the Wii is already at half the install base that the 360 is. Sony is quickly catching up though, there are pics appearing of PS3's sitting in stores but the funny thing is there's 360's next to it, so don't let the fanboys sway you.

What will kill Sony is the Rumble and Force Feedback debacle that's ongoing, PS2 has the advantage of supporting the Driving Force Pro (DFP) as well as many other wheels but the DFP is superb, many will testify to that. lol Forza 2 has the upperhand that GT4 has over Forza in the last gen, how the mighty may have fallen.

dj_faceplant

10-01-2007, 14:49

AdamEnzo

10-01-2007, 15:11

crappucino

10-01-2007, 16:03

true very true.. but diablo did you mean that forza 2 will have better graphics than GT 4? GTHD is a waste of time if im honest... and i dont really see much improvemeant in the graphics on HD and GT 5... when is Forza 2 coming out guys ??

Well GTHD was just a proof of concept in terms of Polyphony working with the new console.

Forza 2 is due out in March so not long to wait. GT5 has a lot of caching up to do gameplay wise if it's to regain the market lead for driving sims.

Mista_D

10-01-2007, 16:46

right ive only had my 360 for about 3 weeks.. and already mates are saying that the PS3 is going to blow it away and be much better all this.... now wouldnt that .... you off?? i just want to know guys is the PS3 better and in what ways...

They're Sony Brown Nosers. That's all, nothing more than Loyal Sony Fanboys.

A Gaming system is a gaming system. It's entertainment no matter how you look at it. Each system has something to offer, and the games it offers depends if I purchase it or not.

DiabloG1

10-01-2007, 18:13

To be honest with monitor technology unless you spend £££s on a tv (£3-4000) the consoles will look pretty much similar. The PS3 will be buggy at first but they have had a few months to sort that out and it works with the psp. Also it doesn't overheat as much. However the 360 has some really great 3rd party support and xbox live so the systems are pretty much balanced

DRIVEITLIKEUSTOLEIT

10-01-2007, 18:19

its all BULL!, i get it at school but i persuaded a friend to get a 360 now we laugh at people waiting for the PS3.

Sony said europe won't mind waiting until next year so the less people that buy it the better.

Gotmaxpower

10-01-2007, 18:20

well i think the ps3 is the typical chavs wet dream...

i think the ps3 is going to be amazing. but its all about money. a while ago someone summed up all the costs of the ps3 and the xbox 360 and the xbox come out about 300 quid cheaper... and the games on the ps3 are going to be dearer, well someone said £2-£3 dearer so for the quality difference it is quite worth it.

well.. i dont have much to say about this little "arguement" between the ps3 and the xbox 360 because being honest.. everyone who was told that the ps3 was supposed to be out in shops late last year would of thought, oh, ill just wait for a ps3. by the time christmas comes there is no sign of the ps3, so everyone just thought "what the heck, ill get a 360" and did so..

i mean, like, the wii was sold out within a day and everyone was always picking faults with that. i hope someone understands where im coming from.

DiabloG1

10-01-2007, 18:27

I thought chavs tended to dream about nicking cars and wearing burberry. Don't call me a chav, I'm middle class

N1PPER

10-01-2007, 18:35

I'm still going to be getting the PS3. Been playing playstations for years now, i love them.

At the end of the day i'm a hardcore gamer. I've a collection of machines spanning back to 1978. To be honest, i think that the whole debate is a waste of time. Let people play the machines they want to play and be done with it..

Nuff said..

Peace

face

why dont you post more often, you could put an end to pretty much every argument on these boards (apart from the europe vs america argument, which has got to be the longest running argument ever :nuts: )

N1PPER

10-01-2007, 18:37

I thought chavs tended to dream about nicking cars and wearing burberry. Don't call me a chav, I'm middle class

they dont dream about nicking cars and wearing burberry, they DO nick cars and wear burberry rolleyesa

DiabloG1

10-01-2007, 18:43

I thought they were like animals, you know cats apparently dream of whiskers so maybe chavs do dream of hotwiring and burberry because thats what they do? If you know more on the psycology of chavs put your name forward

Svare

10-01-2007, 18:50

guys. i got the jappan catalog with the spec of it.. it ONLY HAS 256 mb of ram... the xbox360 has 512mb ram... now u can tell me all u want... the ram speed of the ps3 can be as fast as u want it to be but 256 will never in dreams be enough for the preformence that the 360 has....
the ps2 had really cheap parts. the ps3 might promiss alot but im sure it will fall apart like the ps2 after a while. well the xbox is not much better to in that area. but back to the controllers that someone mentioned.... dont forget they have no SHOCK SYSTEM!!!! loll... the games will be cool at first but there will be really no diffrent from the 360. and if there is then the ps3 will have to get the max out that it can and we know that hardware breaks if it gets overclocked alot

DiabloG1

10-01-2007, 18:53

"Sony initially said the PS3 will sport 512MB RAM split between 256MB XDR main RAM at 3.2GHz, and 256MB of GDDR VRAM at 700MHz, but now Sony may look to boost those specs even further as it attempts to big up the sheer raw muscle power of the PS3. By comparison the Xbox 360 will launch with 512MB of GDDR3 RAM DDR 700 MHz but also boasts 10MB of fast DRAM on the same chip as its graphics chip to boost performance."
Secondly this shows the ps3 has two sources of memory 256mb each unlike the 360 wehich doesn't have separate graphics chip memory

ssj5gogeta

10-01-2007, 19:00

I thought chavs tended to dream about nicking cars and wearing burberry. Don't call me a chav, I'm middle class

A) Middle class chavs exist
B) You imply that anyone who is working class is a chav which I find quite offensive, but I'm sure you didn't mean that right?
C) AdamEnzo I can't understand how you can say that you found the Wii fun but that you think it's 'pathetic' because its graphics were nothing spectacular. I find that amazing. All the Next Gen consoles have something to offer, and I don't think any of them will 'blow each other out of the water'.

the ps2 had really cheap parts. the ps3 might promiss alot but im sure it will fall apart like the ps2 after a while

eekblue: When did this happen? I don't recall anything other than the PS2 selling by the truckload, even up until this point it's still making sales.

NWATA

10-01-2007, 19:10

I dislike super Chavs sour:

Click here for comparison shots http://uk.gamespot.com/features/6162742/index.html?sid=6162742&sid=6162742&click=topslot

Nuff said :)

NWATA

10-01-2007, 19:12

right ive only had my 360 for about 3 weeks.. and already mates are saying that the PS3 is going to blow it away and be much better all this.... now wouldnt that .... you off?? i just want to know guys is the PS3 better and in what ways... i mean the 360 you can turn your console on from your controller... how cools that! what do you guys recon... :nuts:

You can turn it off from the controller too... rolleyesa

Crazed_Dodgem

10-01-2007, 19:49

*instructs sony fans to put fingers in ears and say 'lalalalala...' till finished speaking*

the console is made by its games, thus the name 'games console' all of this media hub is rubbish, i dont give a stuff it it can play bluray films (especially with sony's media format history)

general game developers prioritise its software to the specs of the most popular console, no? well, if that is the 360 then graphics will be made with the 360 version in mind, the PS3 power will mean nothing because all developers will do is make it very slightly better (the PS2 version of GTA: SA and the PC version are almost identical, despite the PCs at the time being A LOT MORE POWERFULL). exclusives will be what have the best graphics, and to be honest, short of motorstorm and GT, the exclusives lineup is pretty shabby (compared to xbox atleast)

oh, disks must cost a bit more, i mean, games on play.com for 360 are no more than £40, with a £10 off the retail price, and PS3 games are £50, presumably with the same £10 discount, meaning the highstreet will be charging £60 a game, dodgey if you ask me!

Also, blu-ray technology is very new, drives are still in their infancy, i predict very slow disk read speeds...

you may now cease la-ing ;)

AdamEnzo

10-01-2007, 19:54

They're Sony Brown Nosers. That's all, nothing more than Loyal Sony Fanboys.

A Gaming system is a gaming system. It's entertainment no matter how you look at it. Each system has something to offer, and the games it offers depends if I purchase it or not.
hmmm to be honest i could agree with you ... one says his PS2 is about as good as my 360.... right.............

AdamEnzo

10-01-2007, 19:57

i agree... to be honest what is the point in putting this new stupid blue ray thing in... about 95%of houses have DVD players etc. so why are you going to want it for that... silly if you ask me,but you know makes them happy. blue ray discs i seen in HMV for 35.00. was in there today and seen it... quite shocking just for a dvd!

ssj5gogeta

10-01-2007, 19:59

short of motorstorm and GT, the exclusives lineup is pretty shabby (compared to xbox atleast)

Now I'm not a Sony fanboy, PS3 is the only next gen console I'm not 100% sure I'm intending to buy, .... but you can't ignore the quality of games like FF XIII, MGS 4 and DMC 4 as PS3 exclusives, nor the potential games like Resistance and the new Killzone have...

kieran_rs125

10-01-2007, 21:02

i dont know if this has already been posted but bill gates has officialy announced that internet tv will be available before the year is up...that cant be too bad. specially if its got gd channels.

i think the xbox is better than ps3 just cos of price. and as far as graphics go. some experts cant tell the difference.

SupermAnthony

10-01-2007, 21:31

willyf

10-01-2007, 21:43

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Crazed_Dodgem

10-01-2007, 21:47

erm... is that advertising spam at the bottom of your post? because it seems completely irrelevant

crappucino

10-01-2007, 22:12

I've just been doing a check up on Alan Wake and apparently, the PS3 couldn't handle it because there is only one core in the processor, whereas the 360 has 3. Each of the processors will handle a job between them; eg. Core 1: Physics, etc.

Can anyone deny or confirm this? If it's true, it could mean less multiformat, which means I'm going to have to stick to just the 360.

That's not true

The PS3 has one general purpose core and an additional 5 (Sony call them SPE's - Synergistic Processing Engines) that can be used but the developer has to go off using additional tool chains and compilers to execute code with them. Basically the developer has to work a bit harder to get the best out of the thing.

The 360 has 3x general purpose cores that can be addressed in the same way but it must be made clear that this does not make the 360 as powerful as a multi-processor PC due to the way that code is executed in-order.

SupermAnthony

10-01-2007, 22:27

That's not true

The PS3 has one general purpose core and an additional 5 (Sony call them SPE's - Synergistic Processing Engines) that can be used but the developer has to go off using additional tool chains and compilers to execute code with them. Basically the developer has to work a bit harder to get the best out of the thing.

The 360 has 3x general purpose cores that can be addressed in the same way but it must be made clear that this does not make the 360 as powerful as a multi-processor PC due to the way that code is executed in-order.

Cheers, mate! I was a little sceptical to believe it so you've set my mind at ease.

crappucino

10-01-2007, 22:47

Cheers, mate! I was a little sceptical to believe it so you've set my mind at ease.

Also, bear in mind the fact that Alan Wake is published by Microsoft Game Studios... So my guess is that someone's been a little bit creative with claims that the PS3 can't handle it :) I doubt it would ever have come out for the PS3 anyway.

Remedy is only a small studio so perhaps they didn't actually have the resources to make it work with the PS3 at present even if they were going to bring it out - that would have been the more diplomatic reason to give.

As the PS3 launch draws closer expect a bit more sabre rattling from the Bill corner.

Jimster71

10-01-2007, 22:57

The PS3 is a cheap blu-ray player.

Apparently you can play games on it too, but I've not seen anything decent out for it yet.

I'm tempted to get one eventually because it's half the price of the current samsung blu-ray player and it will interact with my PSP.

SupermAnthony

10-01-2007, 23:33

Also, bear in mind the fact that Alan Wake is published by Microsoft Game Studios... So my guess is that someone's been a little bit creative with claims that the PS3 can't handle it :)

Yeah, that did cross my mind. I think it was the fanboys anyway; though I don't like to go pointing fingers saying people are wrong without having some sort of back up.

Again - thanks.

AdamEnzo

13-01-2007, 01:11

hmmmmmmm so that means they are as good as each other then?

Crazed_Dodgem

13-01-2007, 01:31

basically yeah, the only thing seperating them is a bit of power, a movie format that may fail (like all other sony formats) and around £200

AdamEnzo

13-01-2007, 01:33

hmmmmmm we will just have to see i guess... will be a matter of time

bkvjR33

13-01-2007, 01:35

im going to get a 360 for forza 2.

it depends what rockstar will do with GTAIV. if they release it for the P360 first im getting it for that but if its released for PS3 first im buying PS3 to.

and if PolyP fix their GT5, with sounds etc i MIGHT buy the PS3 for that.....but i dont count on it as they already made huge mistakes on the first 4 rolleyesa

Baxie

13-01-2007, 01:42

Uncle Bill might have some deep pockets, but Sony is no cent-operation either.

What scares me is that while M$ has pretty much taken the American market with the 360 and Sony has the Japanese market with PS3 the battle will be here in Europe. And unfortunately this means that while some countries still have a low tax-rate on luxury-items such as games consoles the stupidly high prices on the PS3 will kill it as a choice for some people.

Here in DK the machine will be some 600 pounds for the regular version (20 Gigs) and 700 pounds for the 60 gigs.

Each game will be in between 70 - 90 pounds. + additional downloadable content. This makes the PS3 an insanely expensive piece of hardware.

Add to this the fact that Sony shipping nowhere near enough units in april (IF they ship in april) and their completely disrespectful approach to the european market, I am one of those that has spent a long time mourning the loss of my beloved PS to the dark side.

I fear that I might not even buy one after the obligatory one-year waiting period and when prices have dropped.

If it is true that Gran Turismo HD will add up to more than 150 quid for all courses, cars and the likes then I can say for sure, that I will NEVER buy one.

Not because I can't afford it, but because it is ridiculously overprices and solely due to Sony and their idiotic approach to how you make money.

When the PS went out it was the only machine that you could easily make copies of games on. This boosted sales of the machines endlessly and it resulted in the little grey thing taking the top spot.

Since then only one machine has been able to compete: The Xbox.

And this machine is also fairly easy to make copies of games for.

Now we have the Wii and the 360 which in time also will be easily available pirated games. And the PS3 with patented Sony only BluRay technology will force people to buy everything original and that will mean a lot of lost dough in unit sales.

I am not the type to burn my games or sell for profits or whatever. I buy a few games and play them religiously. And so does other "pirates", but they also buy pirated software for their machine. So they have 10-15 games that are original and the machine and then X number of copied games.

This still makes it more attractive than the machine that you have to buy every piece of **** game out there. So you check out your options.

This is my theory solely. So don't hold it against me.

I have never owned and never will own a pirated game and all that stuff to make me a no-fault in whatever insane lawsuit Sony may try to pull on me. And trust me.

They are THAT greedy.

Kinda like Blizzard.

But that's another story.

AdamEnzo

13-01-2007, 01:52

mate i have to say that was a bloody good point.... think about it MS has come really from building computers etc... to builidng one of the finest games consoles on the market today

sony have been doing that for god knows how many years, its amazing that MS can keep up with or be better than the champs.... ive got an xbox 360 and sticking to it i mean the 360 was in some places 650 pounds but thats for like 8 games 2 wireless controllers and lots of other stuff... the PS3 is 600 just for console and a couple games i guess... its crazy... who cares about blue ray stuff... theres no point really when HD is launched in what 2009? whats the point in that... adding extra money for something thats not going to be properly in use till 2009 or whenever... 10sur10 NOT! damn... i think the 360 is... this is a personal thing but,much more clever than the ps3.. like with all the menus etc... but will have to see... oh yeah i thought the 360 had something like a 20 or 30Gigabite memory mine only has 13.. or something... how can you make it larger?

i would like GT HD and GT5 but i dont see the point in buying it if you have to pay extra for the cars you want... its pathetic atleast in TDU we get more than 1 car..

my response to sony would be your pathetic...

most of you wont agree with me i guess but hey...... thats my oppinion

Crazed_Dodgem

13-01-2007, 02:04

@ GTA IV - theyre both coming at the same time. but each console has their own exclusive DLC.

oh, there was another console that was rediculously easy to copy disks for, and i mean insanely easy, i'm talking dreamcast.

cr@ckxthe game (using the inbuilt modem) and the copy can be reproduced time and time again, and all copied disks work on standard dreamcasts, the process was insanely easy.

ofcourse i didnt copy any disks, and didn't own any disks for that matter *looks innocent, polishes halo*

please, why the hell isxcr@ckxfiltered

crappucino

13-01-2007, 02:17

One of Sony's arguments in favour of blu-ray revolves around their claim that DVD9 does not have the capacity to store the content required for their next generation titles.

That's quite a bold statement when someone like John Carmack from ID software has stated that developers will already have to "sweat blood" to get the best out of the PS3 based on Sony's architecture decisions and the fact that their development tools aren't a patch on Microsoft's

AdamEnzo

13-01-2007, 02:19

hmmmmmmmm but still blue ray might enable the PS3 to overheat more... cause of the high power it has.. could cause PS3 to overheat alot what you recon?

Crazed_Dodgem

13-01-2007, 02:28

not sure about heat but i am sure that read speeds will be such a biatch, bluray players/reader/drives are still in their first generations and will be a while before readers can be produced 'on the cheap' and quicker disk read speeds are a possibility

crappucino

13-01-2007, 02:48

hmmmmmmmm but still blue ray might enable the PS3 to overheat more... cause of the high power it has.. could cause PS3 to overheat alot what you recon?

That depends on how efficiently the heat is dissipated away from the key system components (ie. CPU, GPU and memory) but yes the PS3 can consume a fairly hefty chunk of power approaching 400W. If there were any serious issues with this it would have been all over Hexus and El Reg etc by now

defcat

14-01-2007, 01:17

Recently had a go on a PS3, I was on there for around 5 hours or so.
Can I say graphically they (360 & PS3) are much the same, it's only a select few Blu-ray games which have that edge in graphics. I also found that the PS3 ran a lot smoother compared to a 360, I've always found that the processing speeds on a 360 are a little slack at times - this has been demonstrated in NFS Carbon and Gears of War.
I'm loving the new PS3 controller, sure it doesn't have rumble but you just don't care when your playing, because of this this makes the controller very light which feels unusual but I like the Xbox like L2-R2 triggers but I don't think, as a whole, the PS3 contoller is as good as the 360 contoller, its just not ergo and precise enough.
Not keen on the menu set up as its like a big PSP which isn't that good, the 360 menu however is bang on.
Getting back to Blu-Ray, I think its brilliant technology and Microsoft should have held back for it, in 5 years time or less the technology will become a lot cheaper to produce and HD DVD will be pretty much old hat. The reason why developers like EA etc. aren't developing Blu-Ray is because financially at the moment its not an ideal investment but when the developing software becomes cheaper and more understandable and the value of games become a little less expensive then they will start to develop Blu-Ray games which will then make a lot of the PS3 collection Blu-Ray, and especially when Blu-Ray v2 arrives with 54gb capacity I think that'll really stick it to MS.
Have never been a MS fan, they can't make a decent OS for toffee and technolgically speaking, and I've checked this out with my nerdy friends who worked with the development of 360 games, the 360 is flawed - massively. No doubt the PS3 will be flawed in some way but the 360 was a rush job - they can't deny that, it was rushed simply for financial benefit of MS for Christmas sales and alas it worked.
I like my 360 but I play it knowingly that it's majorly flawed, but I will be buying a PS3, there's no doubt about it and in all honesty its not expensive.
A Blu-Ray player alone is £1100, and your getting that plus an amazing games console plus a 60GB hard drive compared to 360's petty 13GB hard drive, although the Sony HDD will probably be around 53GB or so, for £425.
Hate to anger some people but hey, Sony will dominate again!

My PC still dominates both! :)

Crazed_Dodgem

14-01-2007, 02:24

for what you get technology wise, the PS3 is a good enough deal, but i dont want a technology superhub. I WANT A FREAKING GAMES CONSOLE.

if a game is basically the same on both consoles (but lacking rumble on the PS3 version!) then im clever enough to go for the cheaper option. also given sonys previous media formats (beta, minidisk and umd) i feel so safe investing £500 into something which has got severe odds against it.

if sony is so successful then why can you easily get hold of PS3s in american stores (check IGN) whilst wii is sold out everywhere. Sony's screwing of our humble continent will not go un noticed by the british people, and thats why so many people have bought 360s this christmas!

Diablo_

14-01-2007, 02:39

Crazed_Dodgem

14-01-2007, 03:08

I find it funny that the sites that report the PS3's sitting in store shelves never mention that there's an equal number of 360 boxes next to them. The Wii has sold 50% in it's first month than what MS and the 360 has sold in over a year, now that's impressive. PS3 has so far sold almost 20% in just over 2 months.

Xbox 360: 10m
Wii: 4.5m
PS3: About 2m

yes, but at this time last year there wasnt xboxes around, so if the 360 launched in the same timeframe as the PS3 that would be a valid point, however the fact is, ps3 can play on being the 'new console' whilst xbox is just selling on being 'a console'. the xbox early adopters far outweigh the PS3 early adopters if xbox was cleared out and Ps3 still there in ready supply.

also, yes P$3 has got 20% of xboxes 12 month total in 2 months, and if it were to continue selling at that rate then it would have got what took 12 months for 360 in 10 for ps3, however, not every 2 months is the same, i mean you have increased sale because of christmas and the launchday, but in the next 2 months there will be no mass buying, so there wont be another 20% slice taken away.

wii doesnt surprise me, i always knew it would rule supreme, viva le underdog!

crappucino

14-01-2007, 03:23

The media capabilities of the PS3 cannot be dismissed out of hand as Microsoft, in response, have released the HD-DVD player and are undoubtedly in the process of pushing out a revamped console with hdmi functionality at the very least so that future ICT protected movies can be played at their full resolution.

Of course they're not going to admit this just yet because it would damage sales of the current hardware. It will also be interesting to see 12 months down the line whether or not the storage potential of blu-ray for games content becomes an important factor.

Crazed_Dodgem

14-01-2007, 03:32

the way i see it, gta will always be the big test of disk space, so bring on GTA IV and see if the didk trully is capable.

the thing is, TDU has been developed with fantastic graphics and it fits onto a standard disk. if they were going to fill a rediculously big disk then they would take longer to release new games, i mean, say TDU 2 comes to PS3, it features the same graphics, but it has a map 5 times bigger than TDU 1's because memory says it can. the game will be no better but will just take longer to programme as the devs fill the disk 'because they can'