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HiM0605

11-01-2007, 20:00

i dont think that there are enought hatchback car in the game. if you had to add one hatchback what would you add?

I Would add a eatheir a RS focus or for usa the svt focus

Spoonz

11-01-2007, 20:02

honda civic, fiat bravo

HiM0605

11-01-2007, 20:05

Fiat would be fun i take it most peps are from the uk

HiM0605

11-01-2007, 20:08

I used to have a 2003 svt focus and it was the most fun i ever had with a car it conered very well

crappucino

11-01-2007, 20:27

Good question and an easy one to answer:

Lancia Delta HF Integrale EVO II

Spoonz

11-01-2007, 20:46

Fiat would be fun i take it most peps are from the uk

yay someone agrees about fiat... mdr1

AdamEnzo

11-01-2007, 20:47

hmmmmmm to be honest hatch backs are pretty poor... but if i had to chose id chose the Civic Type R.Clio V6 and BMW Z3M Z4M 130I and ermm i suppose the fastest car on earth... a peugeot 106. i just hope halfords isnt included cause then we would be seeing bits of tin metal driving round the map.... lolblue:

SupermAnthony

11-01-2007, 20:49

You say name ONE car, yet you name more than one and so does everyone else. These things never work out as planned :wink2:

Hehe, keeping with tradition:

Honda Civic Type R (the model before the current one!)
Peugeot 206 GTI 180

HiM0605

11-01-2007, 20:53

in my opinon hactchbacks arent made for speed. its all about acceleration and how nimbial (sound it out cuz i know i dint spell it rite lol) they are
Go focus RS

Crazed_Dodgem

11-01-2007, 21:08

we currently have (hatch wise)

Audi A3
VW golf R32
Alfa Brera
Alfa GT

and i would like to have

Vauxhall Astra VXR
Ford Fiesta ST
MG ZR
Honda Civic type R (have been in one of these, very quick!)
Mazda 3

and thats about it

ZigaR

11-01-2007, 21:24

Weel Alfa's aren't really hacbacks but coupes so there are just two real hatchbacks. It would be nice to se new Fiat Brato Abarth, Ford Focus ST, Seat Leon Cupra....

jamiekip

11-01-2007, 23:25

How about adding the New Audi S3 in place of the current A3 3.2??
Mine's on order so would be cool to get to 'virtually' drive it first!!! :)

moparman440

11-01-2007, 23:29

How about a Dodge Caliber SRT4, it's a Hatchback/micro SUV thing, and it will out run all the above cars I THINK, but I dont know. Whats the fastest out of the above.

Crazed_Dodgem

11-01-2007, 23:32

probably the civic type R

[edit]

not a hatchback!

http://www.autonews24h.com/files/2007-Dodge-Caliber-SRT4.jpg

moparman440

11-01-2007, 23:33

How much power and what kind of 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.

Crazed_Dodgem

11-01-2007, 23:42

driftpassion

11-01-2007, 23:49

ford focus svt bitches mdr1

moparman440

11-01-2007, 23:50

Crazed_Dodgem

11-01-2007, 23:55

thing is that the caliber isnt really a hatchback, its not small...

its more of an SUV, i mean look at the ground clearance on it!

i'd put it into the same size group as the ssanyang rodius *awaits cringes from everyone who knows how ugly it is*

moparman440

12-01-2007, 00:04

Good point, would look better if it was lowered though. I love the looks of the Caliber.

I looked at that chinese thing, I about threw up.

AdamEnzo

12-01-2007, 00:04

the fastest is not the Civic type R.. it would be the Clio V6... the V6 does 160mph or 165 dont know...

Crazed_Dodgem

12-01-2007, 00:05

Good point, would look better if it was lowered though. I love the looks.

me too, i think i prefer it to the Range Rover sport to be honest, its agressive looking, and the hoodscoop actually looks quite good

moparman440

12-01-2007, 00:08

Range Rover's are cool. I would take a Jeep Grand Cherokee over it though. faster 0-60.

Crazed_Dodgem

12-01-2007, 00:10

i think i would choose the range rover sport over the cherokee, and im not sure whether the cherokee could out-do a tank either...

Jimster71

12-01-2007, 00:32

tadaaaa

That's the old civic.

I'd like to see the Focus ST and the Leon Cupra R

crappucino

12-01-2007, 00:45

The original Civic Type R (EK9) was a far better car than that thing they released over here. They sanitised it for the European market and took out some of the stuff that would have made it a proper type R!

Crazed_Dodgem

12-01-2007, 00:45

the new one isnt out yet though, is it (not the type R atleast)

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/features/future/08.honda.civic.type.r/08.civic.typer.340.jpg

yes the new one looks like awsomeness and is a 2008 release

Jimster71

12-01-2007, 00:56

Not sure on the type R release here, but the regular civic has been out for 12 months or more.

SupermAnthony

12-01-2007, 01:05

Not sure on the type R release here, but the regular civic has been out for 12 months or more.

Yeah, and it makes my eyes bleed...

Crazed_Dodgem

12-01-2007, 01:07

oh i knew about the regular one.

i think the regular one is very ugly, but i like the type R, and its all because of the stupid perspex bit that links bothe headlamps... ewwness

the civic is a strange beast, has to be said, also, americans dont get our civic, they get saloons only (looking at wikipedia)

Marc_CRX

12-01-2007, 02:04

OK stats considering how much power it's got. Don't look half bad either.

Here's the Calibers stats from Car and Driver:
2007 DODGE CALIBER SRT4

Vehicle type: front-engine, front-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 5-door wagon
Estimated base price: $22,000
Engine type: turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 16-valve inline-4, aluminum block and head, port fuel injection

Displacement: 144 cu in, 2360cc
Power (SAE net): 300 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 260 lb-ft @ 2000 rpm

Transmission: 6-speed manual
Wheelbase: 103.7 in
Length/width/height: 173.8/68.8/59.9 in
Curb weight: 3200 lb
Performance ratings (C/D est):
Zero to 60 mph: 5.5 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.1 sec
Projected fuel economy (mfr’s est):
EPA city driving: 22 mpg
EPA highway driving: 28 mpg

Well, turns out that the Caliber is better. Too bad it FWD or I'd buy one.

I Would Pay to see That Happen rolleyesa

Well For me It Would Be

http://news.caradisiac.com/IMG/jpg/Renault-Clio-Trophy-10.jpg

Max. output
(EC) 178.8 PS (176.3 bhp) (131.5 kW)
@6500 rpm
Max. torque
(EC) 200.0 Nm (148 lbft) (20.4 kgm)
@5250 rpm
Maximum rpm
Coolant Water
Specific output 88.2 bhp/litre
1.45 bhp/cu in
Specific torque 100.1 Nm/litre
0-50mph (80 km/h)
0-60mph
0-100km/h 7.10s
0-100mph
80-120km/h
(50-70mph)
in top
0-Quarter-mile 15.00s
0-Kilometre 27.60s
Top speed 222 km/h (138 mph)
Fuel Consumption 11.3/6.2/8.1 l/100km urban/extra-urban/combined
CO2 Emissions 194 g/km
Power-to-weight 161.74 bhp/ton

jamiekip

12-01-2007, 11:38

New Audi S3
It's a lot quicker than the current 3.2 v6 on the game!!!!

2.0 turbo FSI
262bhp
155mph (limited)
5.7 0-60

I'm not biased or anything, but mine arrives March 1st!!! :)

Pic in link below:
http://web.mac.com/john.hemsley/S3_4.jpg

MCSmee

12-01-2007, 11:45

Power 200 bhp / 149 KW @ 7400 rpm
Torque 196 Nm / 145 ft lbs @ 6500 rpm
BHP/Liter 100 bhp / liter
Power to weight ratio 0.17 bhp / kg
Top Speed 235 km/h / 146 mph
0-60 mph Acceleration 6.8 s

tadaaaa

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/587-3.jpg

hehe i never looked at the stats on a civic well i know what a seat ibiza tdi can do know lol i play with civic all the time on way home from work lol.

shocked at Torque 196 Nm - im pushing 400nm lol

Seat ibiza Cupra TDI!!!!! it needs to be done. and for added realism its need to smoke like a bitch when tuned. like a true diesel

Smee

MCSmee

12-01-2007, 11:47

I Would Pay to see That Happen rolleyesa

Well For me It Would Be

http://news.caradisiac.com/IMG/jpg/Renault-Clio-Trophy-10.jpg

Max. output
(EC) 178.8 PS (176.3 bhp) (131.5 kW)
@6500 rpm
Max. torque
(EC) 200.0 Nm (148 lbft) (20.4 kgm)
@5250 rpm
Maximum rpm
Coolant Water
Specific output 88.2 bhp/litre
1.45 bhp/cu in
Specific torque 100.1 Nm/litre
0-50mph (80 km/h)
0-60mph
0-100km/h 7.10s
0-100mph
80-120km/h
(50-70mph)
in top
0-Quarter-mile 15.00s
0-Kilometre 27.60s
Top speed 222 km/h (138 mph)
Fuel Consumption 11.3/6.2/8.1 l/100km urban/extra-urban/combined
CO2 Emissions 194 g/km
Power-to-weight 161.74 bhp/ton

these are wrong... trust me!!!! this is quicker than a civic type r too infact there is nothing between me and one of these bad boys very VERY rapid for a small car

Smee

MCSmee

12-01-2007, 11:57

honda civic, fiat bravo

bravo HGT nice car :) im biased i have a brava lol

fiat coupe 20vt would be SWEET

seat ibiza cupra TDI cos i have one lol

seat leon cupra r cos i like them

alfa 146 GTA cos they look the ****

not a real production car but i did see a few weeks back at courtney sports in norwich a corsa B shape with a VXR engine tuned people had to sit on the front to stop it flying off the rollers

Smee

UKJim

12-01-2007, 13:12

Civic Type R all the way. Could possibly create a new class called Sport or something.

I also like the focus RS.

Another good car I would LOVE to see in game, is the classic Escort Mexico RS.

Peace and tranquility.
mdr1

Crazed_Dodgem

12-01-2007, 14:35

fiat coupe 20vt would be SWEET

ditto, love the coupe 20vt, such a sweet loking car, though my mates give me funny looks when i claim it looks nicer than a maserati gransport...

(they claim it would struggle to beat a ssangyang rodius)

Marc_CRX

12-01-2007, 14:54

these are wrong... trust me!!!! this is quicker than a civic type r too infact there is nothing between me and one of these bad boys very VERY rapid for a small car

Smee

Those Figures are 99% Accurate

And i Know it will Beat a Civic Type R

What Those Figures Dont tell you is Over What Range The Power/Torque Lasts For.

Dont Forget The Civic Type R Has Around the Same LB/FT of Torque...

There is a Little Saying......"Horsepower Wins Arguments....Torque Wins Races"

Plus The Little 182 probably weights around 300-350Kg Less mdr1

MCSmee

12-01-2007, 15:04

Those Figures are 99% Accurate

And i Know it will Beat a Civic Type R

What Those Figures Dont tell you is Over What Range The Power/Torque Lasts For.

Dont Forget The Civic Type R Has Around the Same LB/FT of Torque...

There is a Little Saying......"Horsepower Wins Arguments....Torque Wins Races"

Plus The Little 182 probably weights around 300-350Kg Less mdr1

ok ill put it this way

civic type r 0 - 60 = 6.8sec
182 clio 0 - 60 = 7.1sec (according to ur figures)

now i know my tdi does it in quicker than a civic and i know a clio is the same as me. so i am telling u those numbers are wrong lol

and trust torque wins races ;) and shamefully it eats tyres 400nm and i can light up 1st, 2nd, and 3rd with traction control on lol

smee

Marc_CRX

12-01-2007, 15:10

But Then The Driver is a BIG Help when it comes to the Car...and you Cant be too Sure if they have Had Any Mod' Done

Civic Type R Specs
Max. output
(EEC) 199.7 PS (197.0 bhp) (146.9 kW)
@7600 rpm
Max. torque
(EEC) 196.0 Nm (145 lbft) (20 kgm)
@5900 rpm
Maximum rpm
Coolant Water
Specific output 98.6 bhp/litre
1.62 bhp/cu in
Specific torque 98.1 Nm/litre
0-50mph (80 km/h)
0-60mph 6.70s
0-100km/h 6.80s
0-100mph 16.20s
80-120km/h
(50-70mph)
in top
0-Quarter-mile 15.20s
@ 96.00 mph
0-Kilometre 27.80s
@ 192.00 km/h
Top speed 235 km/h (146 mph)
Fuel Consumption
CO2 Emissions
Power-to-weight 155.12 bhp/ton

Clio 182 Specs
Max. output
(EC) 178.8 PS (176.3 bhp) (131.5 kW)
@6500 rpm
Max. torque
(EC) 200.0 Nm (148 lbft) (20.4 kgm)
@5250 rpm
Maximum rpm
Coolant Water
Specific output 88.2 bhp/litre
1.45 bhp/cu in
Specific torque 100.1 Nm/litre
0-50mph (80 km/h)
0-60mph
0-100km/h 7.10s
0-100mph
80-120km/h
(50-70mph)
in top
0-Quarter-mile 15.00s
0-Kilometre 27.60s
Top speed 222 km/h (138 mph)
Fuel Consumption 11.3/6.2/8.1 l/100km urban/extra-urban/combined
CO2 Emissions 194 g/km
Power-to-weight 161.74 bhp/ton

Marc_CRX

12-01-2007, 15:12

Im Not Sticking Up For The Type R...I Think they are a Great Car...But a 182 would Destroy It Around a Track

crappucino

12-01-2007, 15:21

I test drove the European CTR when it came out and it was very disappointing. Losing the LSD was a bad design decision among other things :(

Spoonz

13-01-2007, 16:15

bravo HGT nice car :) im biased i have a brava lol

fiat coupe 20vt would be SWEET

seat ibiza cupra TDI cos i have one lol

seat leon cupra r cos i like them

alfa 146 GTA cos they look the ****

not a real production car but i did see a few weeks back at courtney sports in norwich a corsa B shape with a VXR engine tuned people had to sit on the front to stop it flying off the rollers

Smee

Yeah, the Coupe 20v turbo is fast for the age. 0-60 - 6.5secs top end 155mph
Also has anyone seen the new Fiat Bravo. omg it look sooo sweet. proper italian design.

TKM_53

13-01-2007, 17:42

renault 5 girdini (3L v6) or a lotus sunbeam (comes standard with twin 40's)

apart from the lancia these are the first two cars that cant be ruined by ned's or chavs

Marc_CRX

13-01-2007, 18:01

Yeah, the Coupe 20v turbo is fast for the age. 0-60 - 6.5secs top end 155mph
Also has anyone seen the new Fiat Bravo. omg it look sooo sweet. proper italian design.

20v T Would Be Nice...But MY GOD does it Torque Steer When The Turbo Kicks In

defcat

14-01-2007, 00:21

Won't have any of that Jap cr*p lol, I'm stupidly into VAG cars so for me I'd have a Mk1 Golf GTI, VW Golf Rallye, Audi S2 and Audi Sport Quattro.
Plus I wouldn't mind the Clio V6, Megane 225 or Polo G40. I wouldn't stoop so low to suggest something branded by the PSA group lol.

But if there ever were Jap hatches in the game I'd say the Mazda 323 GTR, Mugen DC5 or perhaps Toyota Starlet Turbo.