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xero01uk
23-05-2007, 18:02
i thought it might be a good idea to name and shame the people who have been caught cheating (see using a trainer while online)

Im thinking that if we get a big enough list them maybe atari will do something about them

Whenever someone sees someone cheating reply to this thread and i will update this post


Ok heres the first person on the list


Driver Names:

G6JB
StupidA$$Clown


lets hope we can get the community cleaned up a little

Poko24
23-05-2007, 18:23
Maybe a good idea but it should be given some strong proof the person is cheating (i dont know - a screenshot?) not only empty accusation.

xero01uk
23-05-2007, 18:26
well ive taken the stupidA$$clown one from the other thread

and for my one i didnt get to take a pic, but i saw from a distance his name move up and down and when i caught up with him, he chatted with me and was blantenly advertising that he was using a trainer

stating that jumping was hard and he couldnt get the speed booster to work

Poko24
23-05-2007, 18:38
Ok, ok. I've also heard StupidA$$Clown is a cheater. But if that list could be updated in a proper order for every name should be given a proof. You know what I mean? I can tell that You are a cheater just for a fun (no offence ;) - I know You aren't).

m4rk33
23-05-2007, 19:16
Easy to have a proof.

Just take a look at rankings in game :reading:

OR

[URL]http://www.testdriveunlimited.com/community/index_pc.php?pg=hall_fame[\URL]

m4rk33
23-05-2007, 19:17
Easy to have a proof.

Just take a look at rankings in game :reading:

OR

http://www.testdriveunlimited.com/community/index_pc.php?pg=hall_fame

Trebor901
23-05-2007, 19:29
this thread is pointless and just out to cause stupid arguements i think the mods should close it

PSYGNOZIS
23-05-2007, 19:32
nick: Bullet-of-Speed
track: Tour of the Island
time: 00:09.47


Its all there, on the website in leaderboard section.


Why Atari dont ban those ppl's ?

PSYGNOZIS
23-05-2007, 19:35
this thread is pointless and just out to cause stupid arguements i think the mods should close it


No, no. I show you arguments. I'll make screenshots on every top 10 times on each solo race and paste them here.

m4rk33
23-05-2007, 19:45
Just have a look at Top 6

Race : The Improv

1 Penelo17 Pro United states 00:01.24
2 Leanna13 Pro United states 00:03.16
3 Jowd Expert Canada 00:23.46
4 Jared025 Pro United states 00:24.60
5 NOTAWOMAN Expert United states 00:33.21
6 husbandly Expert Korea 00:34.07
7 locokido Master United states 02:25.08
8 Madtea1 Master Germany 02:26.62
9 Rudia Master Germany 02:43.19
10 Sankaklaus Pro Germany 02:44.74

6 to ban !!

Poko24
23-05-2007, 20:57
Easy to have a proof.

Just take a look at rankings in game :reading:

OR

http://www.testdriveunlimited.com/community/index_pc.php?pg=hall_fame
Yep, You right. But those cheaters PROBABLY bought their own copy of TDU and they can do with it whatever they want to. So Atari can not ban them. We can only write their unfamous names down here. That's all i'm afraid :(

... OR game should check if they're using trainer and put them on the server dedicated only for trainer users (if it's possible to check it). Then in this case it will be no more a fun for them, isnt it? And presence of such a server would be pointless...

Flyer10
23-05-2007, 21:13
They can ban them, I remember people got banned from N2003 if they were wrecking on purpose like driving the wrong way around the tracks or waiting in the side of the track.

All Atari need to do is put a disclaimer (saying you agree not to cheat) that everyone needs to tick to play. Then youve agreed to play by those rules and they can ban you if you dont.

Look at the RPGs that ban people all the time.

Arnie1808
24-05-2007, 15:46
10sur10

I agree FULLY with the above post!

Arnie1808
24-05-2007, 15:59
Iv just had a look at the leaderboard and have you seen the speeds some of these cheating f**ks have done on these missions

160 mph in heavy traffic Speed ktop160
2549.02 km/h X

180 mph on a winding route Speed atoo
8423.64 km/h X

This is what ruins it for all the rest of us because it makes every one think 'whats the point in playing' when people like this are left to do what they like THEY SHOULD BE BANNED! Make them play single player and not Multi Player!

That way they can still play the game and cheat as much as they want and it won't pi** every one else (THAT DOESN'T) cheat alone :mad:

laragirl83
24-05-2007, 16:27
Yep, You right. But those cheaters PROBABLY bought their own copy of TDU and they can do with it whatever they want to. So Atari can not ban them. We can only write their unfamous names down here. That's all i'm afraid :(

... OR game should check if they're using trainer and put them on the server dedicated only for trainer users (if it's possible to check it). Then in this case it will be no more a fun for them, isnt it? And presence of such a server would be pointless...

you jokin' right? multiplayer based game? atari cant ban them? LOL!
thats like i enter NFL (the real sport) get my dose of testosteron and all, win the season and havin' fun? nahh...
just like Counter Strike!
if u can play ON LINE, that means u boght a legal version. this is only good for you as long as u dont cheat cuz' VAC catch and ur account is gone... gotta have to buy a new one...
this should be like this here too... but i thik its gonna take a long time, and a lot of headache for us, fair players until atari will do sometin. :nono:

PaMuRacer
24-05-2007, 16:43
you jokin' right? multiplayer based game? atari cant ban them? LOL!
thats like i enter NFL (the real sport) get my dose of testosteron and all, win the season and havin' fun? nahh...
just like Counter Strike!
if u can play ON LINE, that means u boght a legal version. this is only good for you as long as u dont cheat cuz' VAC catch and ur account is gone... gotta have to buy a new one...
this should be like this here too... but i thik its gonna take a long time, and a lot of headache for us, fair players until atari will do sometin. :nono:
I think that the patch contains anti cheating measures...

Nascarbuc
24-05-2007, 17:05
Here's a headline from 2006 :

"Blizzard Entertainment has announced that they have banned over 100,000 World of Warcraft accounts for "activities that violate the game's Terms of Use."

That's a lot of accounts, i dont believe as many people cheat in TDU so that should be more than feasible, especially since most of them can easily be identified.

Atari has to ***** down real hard on these morons, ban them permanently. I know i havent raced in multiplayer a single time, heck i even deactivated the instant challenge option so i wouldnt be bothered.

And i only tried real hard to get in a top 5 once, until i realized there was no way i could get there without cheating. Made me stop bother with trying to compete and i just did barely enough to get the gold in as many races and challenges as necessary to get to the hardcore mode. It's too bad as i didnt mind spending several hours trying on a single race and i missed an important side of the game.

Qgal5kap
24-05-2007, 17:42
Cheaters must die !!!

There is no point having a multiplayer game if cheating is an option.
Cheats turn TDU into Trackmania.

Just imagine WRC Rally or Formula 1 if certain teams ignored the restrictions
and ran with banned parts. They would win. And they would get kicked out afterwards, as well as getting a fine !

Most the multiplayer games I've played since 1995, has had the option
to ban ppl. Like the Flyer10 said All Atari need to do is put a disclaimer (saying you agree not to cheat) that everyone needs to tick to play. Then youve agreed to play by those rules and they can ban you if you dont.

Look at the RPGs that ban people all the time.

KingBong
24-05-2007, 17:50
Well I think by cheating a lot of them are breaking the TOA anyway, because in order to cheat you have to make the game do things its not supposed to, so that is as good as saying 'Yes I altered the code/config of the game' which means they violated the TOA. (I think) tonguegre

dan0h
24-05-2007, 23:55
The cheating has taken the edge off for me too, I just thing - whats the point, my scores will never be able to compete with people able to drive at speeds in excess of Mach 2 on a twisting road. Come to think of it, that'd be an amusing new challenge... "Lightspeed in heavy traffic"... dark:

VetteranC6
25-05-2007, 06:07
I've been playing TDU for about 2 mounths now. Great Game! I thought I was doing pretty good. Started practising at the Oahu Raceway. Then when I felt pretty good with my laps, I started multi-play on the track. Funny thing, when in restricted game (all same car & all same mode level) on straight-a-way start, a few cars would fly buy me like I was standing still. If I was lucky enough to catch them in the curves, they'd pull easily away from me on the straight-a-ways. I'm not stupid, this ain't apples and apples.

I've started making a list of drivers that are obviously cheating and I will boot them as soon as I notice one of them entering a game that I'm hosting. Their is no need to question the obvious cheaters. After all they are dishonest and why would you think that they would be trueful. It's a shame that some are so in to winning that they will do anything that it takes to win and make themselves feel superior.

Fine those players that are fair and only race against them. I'm all for a post board to target cheaters. I know their are good drivers in this game that don't cheat and when they beat me, I give them credit due.

I find it that most cheaters are actually good drivers, but they need that cheating advantages to fulfill their ego.

Deacon_Vlad
25-05-2007, 07:17
I've been playing TDU for about 2 mounths now. Great Game! I thought I was doing pretty good. Started practising at the Oahu Raceway. Then when I felt pretty good with my laps, I started multi-play on the track. Funny thing, when in restricted game (all same car & all same mode level) on straight-a-way start, a few cars would fly buy me like I was standing still. If I was lucky enough to catch them in the curves, they'd pull easily away from me on the straight-a-ways. I'm not stupid, this ain't apples and apples.

I've started making a list of drivers that are obviously cheating and I will boot them as soon as I notice one of them entering a game that I'm hosting. Their is no need to question the obvious cheaters. After all they are dishonest and why would you think that they would be trueful. It's a shame that some are so in to winning that they will do anything that it takes to win and make themselves feel superior.

Fine those players that are fair and only race against them. I'm all for a post board to target cheaters. I know their are good drivers in this game that don't cheat and when they beat me, I give them credit due.

I find it that most cheaters are actually good drivers, but they need that cheating advantages to fulfill their ego.

I've seen cheaters in multiplayer races. They are gone in an instant. If they ARE cheating, you will not catch them in the curves. Period. People pulling away from you on straight aways is simply explained by anyone with a G25 and using the clutch and manual shifting in a good fashion. You don't state what you use to drive, so it could be any number of things as to why people are pulling away from you...

DV

Boosted
25-05-2007, 08:20
I've seen cheaters in multiplayer races. They are gone in an instant. If they ARE cheating, you will not catch them in the curves. Period. People pulling away from you on straight aways is simply explained by anyone with a G25 and using the clutch and manual shifting in a good fashion. You don't state what you use to drive, so it could be any number of things as to why people are pulling away from you...

DV

of course u will catch cheaters in curves.
they are too fast - they cant make the turn.
and its not like ud need a G25 to use manual clutch, i play with a gamepad and use it too (works wonderful).

MADNESS_3D
25-05-2007, 17:19
It's worse when you create a chalenge in a diner which takes 5 minutes to complete and they finish it in 10 seconds
Just annoying :noooo:

Be_johan_tb
25-05-2007, 17:49
I've question for the mods concerning cheating after the patch (if cheating won't be possible anymore): Will the leader boards of every race be cleared or will they pick only the cheaters or another possibility there will be no changes in the leader boards in which case cheaters will be no.1 forever. madred:

Can someone give me any info on this matter?? :hin:

Nitrogliserin
25-05-2007, 22:07
burn all of them :mad:

EnosEnos
25-05-2007, 23:29
Add a guy called - SUPSTA, he deleted traffic + does like 300 MPH in a A3!? :mad: :mad: :mad:

B4zza
26-05-2007, 04:02
Funny thing, when in restricted game (all same car & all same mode level) on straight-a-way start, a few cars would fly buy me like I was standing still. If I was lucky enough to catch them in the curves, they'd pull easily away from me on the straight-a-ways. I'm not stupid, this ain't apples and apples.


Firstly,Im all for this list,but must be sure people are cheating as others have said.

Ive done my own round of tests with both the chronopack thingy and setting lap times in full auto,manual with auto clutch and full manual.

The differences between auto and manual with auto clutch are negligable,especcially if you force the auto into the gear of your choice.More often than not youw ill get a better launch witht he auto also.

Full manual with clutch you will get .7 of a second 0-60 and a better take off,its worth at least 1.5 seconds a lop of a smallish track like say Razors Edge.

So, just because somebody pulls away from you, gets a better start or finishes a 3 lap race many seconds infront of you,doesnt meen they are cheating, especcially if you arent playing full manual.

You dont need a g25, i only have a momo and use a paddle for a clutch.Ive also raced plenty of competitive players ,who are using gamepads, and been whipped.

caponehun
26-05-2007, 10:53
Jaguar1993...

TDU-RAZOR
26-05-2007, 11:29
:lol: just checking my name isint on this list :wasntme:

FlinterChaps
26-05-2007, 15:11
Hello, i'm french and have a bad english, soo be lenient with me please.
Juste for tell you about any cheaters, they are not all cheaters, there is bug i saw, i put in a challenge in drive-in, and after 5 minutes, i receive a news who tell me i'm the best score with an improbably time. I don't know if anyone had play on it, but if yes [sorry], he would sayed that i'm a cheater... :mefiant:

In multiplayers games, mani time, cheaters don't win, they don't know drive and crash at all corners, else, it's on track like "futur proche" (i don't know the race name in english) or other straight track.

There is any players who thik i cheat, because i'm faster than there with the same car, they probably play in auto cluch, and don't understand, but i'm very happy when i play with anyone like Furryappleased, oldmangamer, and more other players who are regular gamer and run very fast because they understand i don't cheat...^^.

If there is any sentences impossible to understand, you can tell me it and i will tell you otherwise.

caponehun
27-05-2007, 12:20
Yes, same problem... The name is Near future, and I also race with manual clutch, with Saleen S7, and thats the fastest combination on that track...

PSYGNOZIS
27-05-2007, 14:28
But those screens are not bugs or Saleen with clutch.

My game version is in polish language so I dont know what are the names of track in English.


Ban them Atari.

Zonda_F
27-05-2007, 15:01
I raced against player ROD1991 who does everything he can to win a race, at the start he ploughed my into trees and lamposts and smashed me off on the last corner to win the race.


on purpose.


ban him.

Steeev
27-05-2007, 15:13
Fernando Alonso

XAlwood
27-05-2007, 15:23
Fernando Alonso
LOL :p :nuts:

btw... I run into too much people who like to ram others too :( I really hate other people who push opponents off the road.

I beat almost everything with my Z06 S0... though I have to depend on skills and handling 100% (well and superacceleration with my G25 :p )
One time I was racing an S3 Murcielago and I was winning... though he ran in to me at the second to last corner. With a wheel it is impossible to correct such a hard bump at 250kph in a corner... though by running in to me he stayed on the road while he otherwise wouldn't have made it through.
If someone who could drive he could have easily passed me on the inside... But he chose to run into me.

It's really something I have a hard time dealing with... Because a lot of cars can catch me on the straight... I still stand a good chance because I know how to stear and accelerate. It's a shame that a lot of people like it more to block others than improve in skills.

DrunkDriver
27-05-2007, 16:08
Seems like you want your name on the world record list and not just play and enjoy the game. If you want your name on some record list so bad you call out the cheaters just follow suit. It would be stupid to ban someone because they cheated. It's a normal life thing to cheat. I'm about to cheat on Scarface in a few seconds! lol

El_Hombre
27-05-2007, 16:20
It would be stupid to ban someone because they cheated. It's a normal life thing to cheat. I'm about to cheat on Scarface in a few seconds! lol
If somebody cheating in mp game - he don't respect rules and other players.
Ban his cd-key and let cheaters play with himself.

MattyST
27-05-2007, 16:22
When you cheat in a single player game you only affect yourself. When you cheat in an online game its totally wrong. Do you not see the difference DrunkDriver?

P.S. Your name is in no way funny or cool. In fact I find it quite offensive. 590 people died last year in the UK due to drink drivers, what about the thousands more who didnt die but had their lives ruined. All because of the incredibly selfish and stupid decision somebody made. Something to think about...

zstef
27-05-2007, 16:38
It's a normal life thing to cheat.
Well..................... tdown:tdown:

Arnie1808
27-05-2007, 17:39
That’s another dick to ban then = DrunkDriver

If he condones cheating then you probably do it yourself don't ya!

Also the "drive in" where you get to play for some "serious cash" is just a big waste of time due to complete Fing retards that cheat :mad:

I had a go at doing one before and I used a Saleen S7 and I got a score of 1:27sec and I thought that was ok and I may have beat the time set by who ever was last but I was way off!

Somebody had done the race before me and got a time of 42 seconds FORTY TWO!

Now what pi**ed me off at first was the thought of somebody cheating and I didn't get the "serious cash" I thought I would be getting but what really pi**ed me off was that I had lost money to just enter the race!

People who cheat on single player games/modes doesn't bother me because they have no affect on me or any other person I would think BUT when it comes to cheating on a multiplayer game then its a different matter all together because it affects me and ALOT of other players who don't cheat!!

Bring in punkbuster or some other anti-cheat program and also have a section here where people can say they have seen people cheating and hopefully got screens shots for proof and then we can get rid of all these cheating Fing ****-holes!

PS.
when done the scores on the leader board/any other score times need to be looked at and where people are cheating DELETE them off it and then ban the BAS*ARDS!


:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
GET IT SORTED :atari:

Be_johan_tb
27-05-2007, 18:45
I totally agree cheating isn't cool it's just a way showing that you can't drive and that you don't respect other players. madred:

xero01uk
27-05-2007, 20:05
punkbuster would be cool, and maybe the VAC servers from Steam!! then we would be laughing!!

tenebra_uk
27-05-2007, 20:35
Giving that I don't cheat, in life or game, and I do not think that cheating is normal, I think I still have to finally step in here.

Please, don't name and shame. The anti-cheating sistem will be in place soon and the cheaters will be turned into dust. *puff* gone. Someone then will make him/herself available to take complaints privately but this is not very nice.

kriskoffer
27-05-2007, 22:03
Giving that I don't cheat, in life or game, and I do not think that cheating is normal, I think I still have to finally step in here.

Please, don't name and shame. The anti-cheating sistem will be in place soon and the cheaters will be turned into dust. *puff* gone. Someone then will make him/herself available to take complaints privately but this is not very nice.


When the system comes out, there's a new 'Pro' hacker that gonna make it 'Anti Cheat System Proof'. Such as vac, and Punkbuster. All those systems are already beem laughed of from the real coders. Simple as that, the only thing that help's, is an admin. Am i right?.....




Cheating, Hacking, Trainers, and such...... SUCKS!

t1_75
27-05-2007, 23:39
__________

TDU-RAZOR
28-05-2007, 01:01
When the system comes out, there's a new 'Pro' hacker that gonna make it 'Anti Cheat System Proof'. Such as vac, and Punkbuster. All those systems are already beem laughed of from the real coders. Simple as that, the only thing that help's, is an admin. Am i right?.....




Cheating, Hacking, Trainers, and such...... SUCKS!

i been gaming nearly 30 years, and to this date i havent found a software developer that can totally stop cheating or copyright theft yet

even steam has been hacked and you all talk about it, when ever theres a leaderboard involved they will always be cheats, you ever see cheats in unranked servers ? thats because theres nothing to gain...

antivirus software companys cant stop the virus, developers cant stop cheats

SIMPLE AS THAT

VetteranC6
28-05-2007, 03:45
I've seen cheaters in multiplayer races. They are gone in an instant. If they ARE cheating, you will not catch them in the curves. Period. People pulling away from you on straight aways is simply explained by anyone with a G25 and using the clutch and manual shifting in a good fashion. You don't state what you use to drive, so it could be any number of things as to why people are pulling away from you...

DV

I use a Momo. My lap times in auto or manual are about the same at Oahu Speedway. When in auto I used manual to down shift when needed. The cheaters that I refer to are leaving me in the straights as if I was standing still and are beating me as much as 14 seconds a lap and those are laps when I have made clean runs (good solid grooves at all curves). Also, I would not think a Z06 Vette would walk away from a Saleen S7 (level 3) on the launch whether auto or manual. If so this game is way out of whack.

B4zza
28-05-2007, 03:59
I use a Momo. My lap times in auto or manual are about the same at Oahu Speedway. When in auto I used manual to down shift when needed. The cheaters that I refer to are leaving me in the straights as if I was standing still and are beating me as much as 14 seconds a lap and those are laps when I have made clean runs (good solid grooves at all curves). Also, I would not think a Z06 Vette would walk away from a Saleen S7 (level 3) on the launch whether auto or manual. If so this game is way out of whack.


Clarify "i use a momo" a bit better, do you use a clutch? If your'e not using a clutch,somebody who is could easily walk away from you in a Chev.Like i said a few posts ago,manual (with auto clutch)is just as slow as auto.

I routinely whip B grade cars being driven auto or auto clutch in untuned D grade cars rolleyesa

d0sitmatr
28-05-2007, 06:25
add the name SolidPitch to the list of cheaters.

on manulua mp race this evening, both of us in a z06 stg2 by first marker he was 9secs ahead of me, I had a great start, little to no screeching of tires, even jumped ahead for a nano-second... I stayed in the race for marker 2, in which he was now 22 secs ahead...

TDU-RAZOR
28-05-2007, 07:49
LOL you just been asked by a mod to stop naming people

StasMan
28-05-2007, 08:49
This all not cheaters who winds huge values, they are lamers... Present cheater will make so it will be not appreciable, I so think...

Machine translation :)

XAlwood
28-05-2007, 08:53
add the name SolidPitch to the list of cheaters.

on manulua mp race this evening, both of us in a z06 stg2 by first marker he was 9secs ahead of me, I had a great start, little to no screeching of tires, even jumped ahead for a nano-second... I stayed in the race for marker 2, in which he was now 22 secs ahead...

I don't know your skills but I've done the same to a couple of other Z06'es with my Z06, and that one's S0!!!
So, lets meet some time, at the end of the week and race :p I assure you I'm no cheater but I did practice driving the Z06 A LOT! Also beat an S3 srt10 couple of days ago, it was on the highway but it was very easy!? I thought it would beat me on the top speed but it didn't.

d0sitmatr
28-05-2007, 11:30
I am no novice, I can assure you of that, Ive been playing racing games since nfs4 and even dabbled in MoDing physics in F1c :) and I can assure you that when you take 2 cars that are exactly matched, on the same stretch of road with no traffic, there is no way in heck that 1 of them is going to be some odd 22 secs faster when the race has only gone on for 45 secs....
maybe if, and only maybe, 1 of them was using a keyboard and the other a wheel, but seeing as Im using a wheel....

[edit]Im only talking about ingame, in the real world, its very possible if you have a very skilled driver with a novice

XAlwood
28-05-2007, 11:43
I am no novice, I can assure you of that, Ive been playing racing games since nfs4 and even dabbled in MoDing physics in F1c :) and I can assure you that when you take 2 cars that are exactly matched, on the same stretch of road with no traffic, there is no way in heck that 1 of them is going to be some odd 22 secs faster when the race has only gone on for 45 secs....
maybe if, and only maybe, 1 of them was using a keyboard and the other a wheel, but seeing as Im using a wheel....

[edit]Im only talking about ingame, in the real world, its very possible if you have a very skilled driver with a novice

It's not too difficult I think... If one has a keyboard or normal wheel (as you say) and the other has a G25 and uses manual clutch and shifting... Especially at the start you can win a GREAT amount of time if you use the right gears. Also in corners it makes a huge difference in what gear you are. And when you have an H-shifter you can wait longer before braking because you can shift down 2 or 3 gears at once.

Especially the start with the G25 is awesome. I have optimized my 0-100(kph) time to 2.7 sec in my S0 Z06 :) If I make no mistakes I think I'm at 200 in about 6 sec...

I have been racing too for quite a long time now :) got my first wheel with NFS3 (hot pursuit 1) and had the most fun in Driver 1..

Zonda_F
28-05-2007, 13:07
LOL :p :nuts:

btw... I run into too much people who like to ram others too :( I really hate other people who push opponents off the road.

I beat almost everything with my Z06 S0... though I have to depend on skills and handling 100% (well and superacceleration with my G25 :p )
One time I was racing an S3 Murcielago and I was winning... though he ran in to me at the second to last corner. With a wheel it is impossible to correct such a hard bump at 250kph in a corner... though by running in to me he stayed on the road while he otherwise wouldn't have made it through.
If someone who could drive he could have easily passed me on the inside... But he chose to run into me.

It's really something I have a hard time dealing with... Because a lot of cars can catch me on the straight... I still stand a good chance because I know how to stear and accelerate. It's a shame that a lot of people like it more to block others than improve in skills.


rod1991 was in a clk dtm masing me into trees. I wish he could be permanently banned

Be_johan_tb
28-05-2007, 13:16
rod1991 was in a clk dtm masing me into trees. I wish he could be permanently banned

To all those who ramming people in online races off the track: ITS ONLY A GAME. madred:

d0sitmatr
28-05-2007, 16:07
I disagree with you completely on that, playing the clutch only gives you millisecs better on avg than auto clutch does ingame. and most especially if your racing someone who knows what their doing.
I cant even imagine why your bothering to argue about this.

if you honestly believe that you can take 2 people, who have extensive real life driving (I'll give the benifit of the doubt here) + 2 completely identicle cars with the only difference being a manual "ingame" clutch vs the automatic "ingame" clutch will give you that much of an edge... I dont even know what to say, other than, how ignorant can you be ?

oh, and last point being, in case your unaware of the particular track, there is no braking, its almost competely all straights with very long curves for the first several relay points, so braking and downshifting dont really help much here (not that it would anyways as I have it down to a pretty decent system that usually allows me the same powerdown as I do in my RL car), and seeing he was almost to the 3rd relay by the time I was almost at the 2nd, and your going to tell me you can accomplish that in the stock z06 vs stg 2 z06 against a seasoned driver ?! :laugh: :laugh: not likely, at least, not without some kind of, shall we say... "edge" ? tonguegre


[edit] thx Bronco80, that was what I meant.

XAlwood
28-05-2007, 16:45
rod1991 was in a clk dtm masing me into trees. I wish he could be permanently banned
haha!! lol!!! I think i met that guy once :p

My sister was driving (terribly) and he challenged her :p ... then I accepted and got behind the wheel and he didn't even come close :)

When I was halfway he was still messing about 100m after the start :p and then the wan*** quit the race before finishing it!

XAlwood
28-05-2007, 16:54
I disagree with you completely on that, playing the clutch only gives you millisecs better on avg than auto clutch does ingame. and most especially if your racing someone who knows what their doing.
I cant even imagine why your bothering to argue about this.

if you honestly believe that you can take 2 people, who have extensive real life driving (I'll give the benifit of the doubt here) + 2 completely identicle cars with the only difference being a manual "ingame" clutch vs the automatic "ingame" clutch will give you that much of an edge... I dont even know what to say, other than, how ignorant can you be ?

oh, and last point being, in case your unaware of the particular track, there is no braking, its almost competely all straights with very long curves for the first several relay points, so braking and downshifting dont really help much here (not that it would anyways as I have it down to a pretty decent system that usually allows me the same powerdown as I do in my RL car), and seeing he was almost to the 3rd relay by the time I was almost at the 2nd, and your going to tell me you can accomplish that in the stock z06 vs stg 3 z06 against a seasoned driver ?! :laugh: :laugh: not likely, at least, not without some kind of, shall we say... "edge" ? tonguegre
Srry... I didn't want to argue with you :)

I just wanted to show my findings... With manual clutch I get to 100kph about .5 sec faster than autoclutch. The advantage I therefore get at the start can be HUGE! But it only works with cars that have enough torque and that normally use the H-shifter. Cars that have a sequential gearbox do shift very fast automatically.

And I want to add that the standard z06 has the fastest sprint from a standing start. I can pull away without any wheelspin and reach 100kph(60mph) in 2.6/7 sec. With an S3 Z06 I don't get under 3.1 (with trc off).

I will stand a very good chance of winning against a skilled opponent in an S3 SRT-10 and An S3-S0 race between Z06'es is in my opinion fair. Both drivers stand a good chance of winning. On a long straight the S3 will win but when you have nice corners the S0 will most likely win

and pls tell me your acceleration times? :) You can't win by only pulling away fast but when two skilled drivers compete it will definately come in handy if you can pull away from your opponent.

Bronco80
28-05-2007, 18:41
Srry... I didn't want to argue with you :)

I just wanted to show my findings... With manual clutch I get to 100kph about .5 sec faster than autoclutch. The advantage I therefore get at the start can be HUGE! But it only works with cars that have enough torque and that normally use the H-shifter. Cars that have a sequential gearbox do shift very fast automatically.

And I want to add that the standard z06 has the fastest sprint from a standing start. I can pull away without any wheelspin and reach 100kph(60mph) in 2.6/7 sec. With an S3 Z06 I don't get under 3.1 (with trc off).

I will stand a very good chance of winning against a skilled opponent in an S3 SRT-10 and An S3-S0 race between Z06'es is in my opinion fair. Both drivers stand a good chance of winning. On a long straight the S3 will win but when you have nice corners the S0 will most likely win

and pls tell me your acceleration times? :) You can't win by only pulling away fast but when two skilled drivers compete it will definately come in handy if you can pull away from your opponent.

try the st2 Z06! :salut2:

d0sitmatr
28-05-2007, 21:49
well, I dont really know as I never looked at that (isnt that the krono-pack ?)
I'll give it a look today and see what I come up with.

DrunkDriver
29-05-2007, 05:33
The name comes from a song by Mystikal on Need for Speed Underground 2. I do not drive in real life my car cost too much to damage while drunk. I don't plan on cheating on this game it's too easy to win. It does suck when you are doing better then your best and a cheater out does you by a mile and some! If you put up money I say you should go on talent and not cheats there are cheats for money use them instead of take others money. I'm sorry you lost your money. I don't think my user name is funny and didn't plan on it being funny. It's the name I chose because that's how I race.

blackr6
29-05-2007, 21:37
How to take care of a (something i cant say) cheater......
http://www.break.com/index/lancheater.html
mdr1 mdr1

d0sitmatr
29-05-2007, 22:03
How to take care of a (something i cant say) cheater......
http://www.break.com/index/lancheater.html
mdr1 mdr1
Ive seen that before, and Id LOVE to do that to anyone I caught cheating !!

Steeev
29-05-2007, 22:31
Throw the lot of them in a deep pond.

If they drown, they're innocent - if they float they're cheating.

Worked before, could work again.

DrunkDriver
29-05-2007, 22:40
Throw the lot of them in a deep pond.

If they drown, they're innocent - if they float they're cheating.

Worked before, could work again.
That's murder and is to harsh

VetteranC6
29-05-2007, 23:03
Clarify "i use a momo" a bit better, do you use a clutch? If your'e not using a clutch,somebody who is could easily walk away from you in a Chev.Like i said a few posts ago,manual (with auto clutch)is just as slow as auto.

I routinely whip B grade cars being driven auto or auto clutch in untuned D grade cars rolleyesa

Good point, B4zza. I programmed my Momo to combine the clutch and my paddle shifters. It does make a difference. I've shaved a consistant 2 seconds off "The Manalua Bay Race" by using the clutch. I will need to practise a little more before I have good numbers at Oahu Raceway using the clutch. I may have been to quick to judge.

VetteranC6 specialdri

TFSKiwi
30-05-2007, 08:05
Seems like you want your name on the world record list and not just play and enjoy the game. If you want your name on some record list so bad you call out the cheaters just follow suit. It would be stupid to ban someone because they cheated. It's a normal life thing to cheat. I'm about to cheat on Scarface in a few seconds! lol

It's not normal to cheat, it's actually quite abnormal - there's a personality disorder that describes this, can't think what it's called at the moment - but basically cheaters show by their actions that they are unable to compete in a normal world, so they cheat to compensate.

Cheaters might come first, but they never win. Sadly, most of them just don't get it.

the_toque
30-05-2007, 08:12
It's not normal to cheat, it's actually quite abnormal - there's a personality disorder that describes this, can't think what it's called at the moment - but basically cheaters show by their actions that they are unable to compete in a normal world, so they cheat to compensate.

Cheaters might come first, but they never win. Sadly, most of them just don't get it.

Aint that the truth.

sk_229
30-05-2007, 08:24
It's not normal to cheat, it's actually quite abnormal - there's a personality disorder that describes this, can't think what it's called at the moment - but basically cheaters show by their actions that they are unable to compete in a normal world, so they cheat to compensate.

Cheaters might come first, but they never win. Sadly, most of them just don't get it.

I have some views on that.
First of all, I'm not a cheater. I don't even have an online account. IMO, you can't use the term "normal world" into a PC game that you play from your living room. In a normal world, such as the one we are all living, I will never drive an Enzo or a McLaren or have 25 luxury houses in Hawaii. That's the point of playing a driving simulation game! The whole concept of PCs and PC Games is to create a second world, where you can be anything you want to be, from a Hawaiian driver to a WWI soldier or an alien eliminator. In this perspective, if somebody has "wet dreams" about driving a Ferrari in 1,000 miles per hour, well, it's his world and his dream!
I agree totally about "Cheaters might come first, but they never win". But this is a statement about REAL life. :)

TFSKiwi
30-05-2007, 09:01
I have some views on that.
First of all, I'm not a cheater. I don't even have an online account. IMO, you can't use the term "normal world" into a PC game that you play from your living room. In a normal world, such as the one we are all living, I will never drive an Enzo or a McLaren or have 25 luxury houses in Hawaii. That's the point of playing a driving simulation game! The whole concept of PCs and PC Games is to create a second world, where you can be anything you want to be, from a Hawaiian driver to a WWI soldier or an alien eliminator. In this perspective, if somebody has "wet dreams" about driving a Ferrari in 1,000 miles per hour, well, it's his world and his dream!
I agree totally about "Cheaters might come first, but they never win". But this is a statement about REAL life. :)

Maybe I should have been clear that I was referring to multiplay with other humans, I just didn't think it would be necessary. If you cheat in a single player game you're just spoiling the game for yourself, assuming you agree with the game designer's interpretation of how the game should be played. Single player I don't give a rat's nau nau what anyone does.

Multiplayer means you are gaming with other people, and if you change the game so you have an advantage that those other people don't have, then what I said above applies.

As an aside, I belong to the =Tuned for Speed= clan, and I made significant changes to the cars loaded in our multiplayer Need for Speed HP2 server. All the cars could go 620km/hr (any faster and the gear shifting got screwy) and handled well to suit, although most had slightly different handling characteristics. Some people would come on and abuse us and call us cheaters, but they just didn't stop and think - EVERYONE had the same cars, no-one had an advantage, the cars were just super fast and handled super well, that's all. Those that did hang around generally got very fast, and competed with us head to head. It was just great fun. :laugh:

TFSKiwi
30-05-2007, 09:11
How to take care of a (something i cant say) cheater......
http://www.break.com/index/lancheater.html
mdr1 mdr1

Yeah that was pretty funny!! The mob mentality was a bit of a worry - someone yells I THINK WE GOT A CHEATER!! and everyone just jumps in and turfs him out! Nobody appeared to stop and check if he actually WAS cheating or not... eekblue:

DrunkDriver
30-05-2007, 13:31
Maybe I should have been clear that I was referring to multiplay with other humans, I just didn't think it would be necessary. If you cheat in a single player game you're just spoiling the game for yourself, assuming you agree with the game designer's interpretation of how the game should be played. Single player I don't give a rat's nau nau what anyone does.

Multiplayer means you are gaming with other people, and if you change the game so you have an advantage that those other people don't have, then what I said above applies.

As an aside, I belong to the =Tuned for Speed= clan, and I made significant changes to the cars loaded in our multiplayer Need for Speed HP2 server. All the cars could go 620km/hr (any faster and the gear shifting got screwy) and handled well to suit, although most had slightly different handling characteristics. Some people would come on and abuse us and call us cheaters, but they just didn't stop and think - EVERYONE had the same cars, no-one had an advantage, the cars were just super fast and handled super well, that's all. Those that did hang around generally got very fast, and competed with us head to head. It was just great fun. :laugh:
Was this game nfs underground?

d0sitmatr
30-05-2007, 15:06
Was this game nfs underground?
may I refer you to this in his post ?
Need for Speed HP2
HP2 = Hot Purtsuit 2

:salut2:

DrunkDriver
31-05-2007, 05:10
Didn't know that had online.

Achttag
31-05-2007, 11:48
An easy way to prevent cheating (not the h*cking kind) would be to introduce an element of accountability to the game - which would have the added benefit of turning it more into a driving sim...?

The best patch IMHO would be one that applied the damage model to player cars, at least at the level as currently applied to the AI cars. You smash it up badly enough and it won't work anymore - and would need a repair bill to be paid - just like the way cops issue tickets.

Do you think peeps might think twice about pulling a U in front of you at the start, if it meant their fun stopped right there as the auto shop towed their smoking Enzo back to the yard?

This god-mode for player cars, seriously, is the one issue which makes me personally totally uninterested in venturing online.

DrunkDriver
31-05-2007, 14:21
who asked for your high oppinion?

Understudy
31-05-2007, 14:24
who asked for your high oppinion?As opposed to your low opinion???

Its a discussion forum... rolleyesa

matelotmike
31-05-2007, 17:10
Good morning everyone,

I am jolly cross! For two days myself and another racer have been involved in a very cleverly set diner challenge by Oliver4500, restricted to Kawasaki's using pillion cam view, to see who could set top speed in a very tight time limit. My top speed so far is 215.95MPH and he has now bettered that to 216 MPH. I tried and tried but I guess his would have probably won. Difficult to get the bike much faster in unlimited time and space with no drafting help.
This morning I logged in and found that overnight another player?? (in game name available!) had topped us all with a speed of 230.12 MPH in a SATURN SKY! (Top speed tuned 154 MPH)

This is cheating, not any nonsense about using G25 wheels/ manual clutches et cetera because for a start what is a car doing in a bike only race!

So he had in effect stolen from me/us
A. Our time (Hourly rate available)
B. The real cost of paying for the online time to my ISP provider
C. The real cost of a set of replacement batteries for my wireless gear

Given the above, maybe we should stop calling them "Cheaters" and start calling them "Thieves", as I would call anybody who helped themselves to my money/property. Similiar to those spammers who on sending junk faxes can be prosecuted for stealing the cost of the fax paper that they have caused the receiver to use.

Thank you for your time.

TFSKiwi
31-05-2007, 20:50
Good morning everyone,

I am jolly cross! For two days myself and another racer have been involved in a very cleverly set diner challenge by Oliver4500, restricted to Kawasaki's using pillion cam view, to see who could set top speed in a very tight time limit. My top speed so far is 215.95MPH and he has now bettered that to 216 MPH. I tried and tried but I guess his would have probably won. Difficult to get the bike much faster in unlimited time and space with no drafting help.
This morning I logged in and found that overnight another player?? (in game name available!) had topped us all with a speed of 230.12 MPH in a SATURN SKY! (Top speed tuned 154 MPH)

This is cheating, not any nonsense about using G25 wheels/ manual clutches et cetera because for a start what is a car doing in a bike only race!

So he had in effect stolen from me/us
A. Our time (Hourly rate available)
B. The real cost of paying for the online time to my ISP provider
C. The real cost of a set of replacement batteries for my wireless gear

Given the above, maybe we should stop calling them "Cheaters" and start calling them "Thieves", as I would call anybody who helped themselves to my money/property. Similiar to those spammers who on sending junk faxes can be prosecuted for stealing the cost of the fax paper that they have caused the receiver to use.

Thank you for your time.

Jolly cross?? You must be from England!!

A mate of mine set a diner challenge that was purely speed, Saleen S7 only, but it was tricky because of the road. I played it about 30 times before I got a best of 400.07km/hr. Next morning (these things just... happen overnight, don't they?) the race was beaten, I ran it and some tard had done it with a Z06 at 480ish km/hr. Why waste our time? I don't really play the game anymore now, and by the time the everlastingly late patch arrives I might have given up. I probably won't buy another Atari game, the bugs, online cheating, and lack of support in this game are just incredibly bad.

StephenJWolfe
01-06-2007, 11:53
I saw I guy called jinnyu suddenly ram me at 350 mph he was driving a black SLR


and I gay called G25 josh G25 jumped in the air he was driving a black ME 4 12


I think they are using toca edit

also putting damage in wouldn't solve any thing. They would just make a new trainer.

PSYGNOZIS
01-06-2007, 14:25
· Anti-cheats system improved


If this will not work or they make another trainer or smth I'll stop playing this good game. Atari should buy licence for PunkBuster like others game developers did. Im not saying that PB is 100% anti-cheats but America's Army use it, Battlefield use it, Call of Duty 1,2 use it, DOOM 3 use it, Wolf Enemy Territory use it, F.E.A.R. use it, Prey use it, Quake 4 use it, Rainbow Six use it, and more, so PB has to be good enough to deal with cheats or in 97% of them. Atari cant do this becouse they have no money, huh ? Or they just dont care about it and about us, players ..............

onkelotto
01-06-2007, 15:01
:atari: stop this "TestDriver" freak from USA.
He is a 100% cheater in sp Races.

:atari: its up to you to stop this scheisse with cheaters= N O W

Greetz

Wuggizle
01-06-2007, 15:59
They can just add punkbuster.. a simple solution...

d0sitmatr
01-06-2007, 17:59
sup psy ?
looking forward to more racing with you and the others this evening :)


I cant say for 100% but I raced with g25_Josh_g25 several days ago, and I dont think he was cheating per-se, I think it was more akin to a really bad connection, as he was experiencing horrible lag. I watched him on several occasions "appear" to fly but it was never so straight forward as people Ive watched who I think are using a trainer (watched a 575m while in LOBBY waiting for a race to finish, who ended the race by spinning several 100 meters into the air spinning like a top, unless that is another bug Ive not seen mentioned... :p )

oh yea, and to the players who intentionally ram you or run you off the road... that is NOT considered "bumping" or "rubbing"....

PSYGNOZIS
01-06-2007, 19:42
sup psy ?
looking forward to more racing with you and the others this evening :)



Sure, as always at night :)

frekestr
05-06-2007, 18:54
bia@deluxe27 and swissenergy

Mskiba
05-06-2007, 19:08
I'll stay on subject of naming cheaters rather then discussion weather cheating is ok or not.

dont have the exact name, but it was similar to this "0000000000000000"

he rammed me twice while i was in hardcore mode, i flew a mile or two.

then i drove in zig zags, and for 15 minutes he coudnt hit me, just zoom past me speed of light and into the nearest building / tree.

Funny.. i beat him at his own game.

DrunkDriver
05-06-2007, 21:32
Are these cheaters on PC platform only?

frekestr
05-06-2007, 21:50
yes I think so

d0sitmatr
06-06-2007, 05:31
.............................

whodunnit
06-06-2007, 08:11
what is the proper way to go about reporting gamers who are abusing or making the gameplay generally unfun for the other racers?

Panzer_Walrus
06-06-2007, 10:18
what is the proper way to go about reporting gamers who are abusing or making the gameplay generally unfun for the other racers?

The "Island" needs admins. With teeth. Patch or no patch.

Uncle_Tyrone
16-06-2007, 21:06
This kid (http://media.putfile.com/Anti-Cheater-got-OWNZ) doesnt realise he was playing with a cheater. This is what cheating does to non cheaters.

DrunkDriver
17-06-2007, 04:26
This kid (http://media.putfile.com/Anti-Cheater-got-OWNZ) doesnt realise he was playing with a cheater. This is what cheating does to non cheaters.
I've seen that before and didn't know why he was acting that way.

advancedOption
17-06-2007, 05:33
You have to be careful not to go on a witch-hunt. I got accused and eventually kicked from a custom match becuase I could get my FORD GT up to 335pkh, or 210mph.

Everyone was adamant my GT could not go that fast. These idiots were driving off the road, flying into poles, and I wasn't even winning most the races. THe main accuser was... and he slowly convinced them I was using hax, cause there's NO WAY a GT can keep up with a CORVETTE... please.

d0s something was his name... how about we ban cheaters and wrongful accusers (or as I like to call them c___s).

d0sitmatr
17-06-2007, 06:58
hhhhmmmmm
well, I wasnt going to bother bringing it up, but seems to me you wanted it to be known, so NZ-S...full name omitted for now (why are you using a different name on the forums ? and I mean waaayyy different...), why not let them know everything before you go off on a tirade ?

you did not drive a FORD GT, you drove a db9 coupe (cls D) (we even ASKED if you are sure you want to race that against the cls B and C cars...) which someone is supposed to believe is faster in acceleration AND topend than a TVr Sagaris AND/OR a stg2 z06 !?
not to mention the driver in question in either of those cars uses manual clutch ?
oh, and let us not forget when you flew 15+ feet in the air for a few hundred yards (not lag, I know what that looks like) above several players to take the lead (we all saw this, which was why we all said the same thing at the same time...)
face it, you got caught.
dont be bashful, be glad, now you no longer need to hide it from people.

and in case my personal driving skillz are in question, there are quite a few people who can vouch that I hold my own quite well. and while there did happen to be several players who did indeed hit the poles or trees, if you remember correctly, I was not one of them.

and yes indeed, I also get smoked often, but 98% of the time its by someone using the same class or car as I am, or a car that is well known for being "misclassed".

I did not come by my decision lightly, my 1st and foremost thought was that you were a good driver, but after watching you trounce a TVR Sag AND a lambo murc on a straight.... and then next round almost trounce a stg2 z06.... not going to happen, not in those circumstances.

(if anyone has any question of this, line up a db coupe and a stg2 z06 or a stg3 tvr sagaris on the 1 mile sprint near future, and see what the outcome is, especially with both people using clutch)

Uncle_Tyrone
17-06-2007, 09:13
Stop going around naming names and calling people cheaters it's against TOS and Forum rules. Anyone could print false information about someone's name it is not that hard.

If you are going to accuse someone of cheating at least have a screen shot that isn't photoshopped accompanying your claims. I cant belive the Mod isn't doing their job regarding naming names and accusing others of cheating.

Atari should really use someone with more maturity as mod instead of kids. Bunch of useless accusations and posts on this thread and should be locked.

Ataris is aware of cheaters and they are remedying this anti social behavior.

Thread should be locked as it does nothing but promote anti social behaviour of those kids that go around accusing others of cheating. How do we know you didnt cheat aswell?

The person that started this thread is a known trouble maker that was sending girls sexually explicit harrassment messages with death threats and his antics should be scrutinised carefully. Infact he should have been banned long time ago for it, why is he allowed to promote harrassments by making false accusations and naming others of cheating? Is this not against the RULES?

Time for you kids to grow up and this thread to be locked and deleted.

Thany
17-06-2007, 09:30
yesterday I was playing on a server and the strangest thing happened :)

when I finished the race I never got into the menu to change my car and see the list of the competitors and their cars, instead i was seeing the grid from some strange camera angles. The next race started and I saw all of the drivers about 20 something km away. At first I taught its just major lag and that it will resync itself eventually. But it didnt and I won the race. After the end I finally saw the other people and they were driving on a completely diffrent track on the other side of the island. Ofcourse I was labled as a cheater but since the server had some strange issues i left anyway.

Uncle_Tyrone
17-06-2007, 09:35
yesterday I was playing on a server and the strangest thing happened :)

when I finished the race I never got into the menu to change my car and see the list of the competitors and their cars, instead i was seeing the grid from some strange camera angles. The next race started and I saw all of the drivers about 20 something km away. At first I taught its just major lag and that it will resync itself eventually. But it didnt and I won the race. After the end I finally saw the other people and they were driving on a completely diffrent track on the other side of the island. Ofcourse I was labled as a cheater but since the server had some strange issues i left anyway.


Like i said too many kids and immature people play this game. This thread promotes harrassments, until the patch and fixes come out you will not be playing this game the way it was supposed to be played.

FredMcDougall
17-06-2007, 10:35
The person that started this thread is a known trouble maker that was sending girls sexually explicit harrassment messages with death threats and his antics should be scrutinised carefully. Infact he should have been banned long time ago for it, why is he allowed to promote harrassments by making false accusations and naming others of cheating? Is this not against the RULES?

What the hell lol. Why make outrageous accusations... I agree however this thread no longer has use, since upon the patch release cheaters will be punished by the game maker.

Uncle_Tyrone
17-06-2007, 10:43
What the hell lol. Why make outrageous accusations... I agree however this thread no longer has use, since upon the patch release cheaters will be punished by the game maker.

Umm i cant find the thread where he sent Catrina_Lansbury private mesasges with sexual harrassment. Does anyone remember when he sent her threatening private messages, when she asked some mod for help they banned her for being a victim? (kiddy mod)

Atari is desparate by putting underage kids as mod on this forum.

FredMcDougall
17-06-2007, 10:46
I remember the situation, but it wasn't that extreme.. anyhow, lets not dig up something that was buried a while ago.

advancedOption
17-06-2007, 11:08
hhhhmmmmm
well, I wasnt going to bother bringing it up, but seems to me you wanted it to be known, so NZ-S...full name omitted for now (why are you using a different name on the forums ? and I mean waaayyy different...), why not let them know everything before you go off on a tirade ?
I have never cheated, or hacked any online game I have ever played in my life. I detest cheaters, and I will defend any name I game under with every ounce of my being... hence the "tirade".

I have 2 profiles in TDU: advancedOption ( game corrupted), and NZ-SILVER (created because previous game corrupted).

you did not drive a FORD GT, you drove a db9 coupe (cls D) (we even ASKED if you are sure you want to race that against the cls B and C cars...) which someone is supposed to believe is faster in acceleration AND topend than a TVr Sagaris AND/OR a stg2 z06 !?
not to mention the driver in question in either of those cars uses manual clutch ?
For 50% of the races I raced you against I was in a FORD GT (my favourite car). At least thats what was happening on my machine. I don't remember people asking me why I was in a DB9.

When we raced A & B I was switching between my ENZO and the GT. When we raced C I was in a Sagaris, D, I went my silver DB9, and G I went my lambo miura.

I never raced you in your Z06 in the db9. I remember you coming second when I was in the enzo, and we had a few fun battles when I was in the GT.


oh, and let us not forget when you flew 15+ feet in the air for a few hundred yards (not lag, I know what that looks like) above several players to take the lead (we all saw this, which was why we all said the same thing at the same time...)
face it, you got caught.
dont be bashful, be glad, now you no longer need to hide it from people.
I have no idea what you're talking about flying... I think it's obvious now we've witnessed a bug. Why do you think when you started accusing me, I was discussing a FORD GT. Do you think this is some game I play, do you think a cheater would come post on a forum??? Why would he bother?

I still don't like you, I forgive you for accusing me initially, but god you come off as a... ah jesus, forum rules!!! "face it, you got caught.
dont be bashful, be glad, now you no longer need to hide it from people." - arrogant... - the things I wanna say to you!



and in case my personal driving skillz are in question, there are quite a few people who can vouch that I hold my own quite well. and while there did happen to be several players who did indeed hit the poles or trees, if you remember correctly, I was not one of them.
You're good, that's why I added you to my friends list, I was hoping to race you some more. I was talking about the other drivers that joined in with you to get me kicked, labelled a cheater.

So it's obvious what happened.. to me anyway, I'm sure you'll still proclaim me a cheater still. You saw a different car to the one I chose. We had 2 buggy races where one driver was on a different track (me being the second). Now it's obvious there's another bug in the game.

But go ahead proclaim me a cheater. But I guarantee you 100% NZ_SILVER will be driving up to you in the game after the patch is released(because I won't be banned with the real cheaters) and giving you a piece of his mind, or you can apologise and we can have some races!

d0sitmatr
17-06-2007, 15:34
I actually thought about this some more last night, and I am glad you came back to respond.

I wish I had fraps running because what I did see was a db9 coupe, but I remembered while mulling over it before going to sleep, that during the entire arguement, DOC and even that guy Kaiser saying GT, yet bzz, myself and 1 other saw the db9, which was why I was argueing so vehemently, because I know there is no possible way a db9 can beat either of the 2 cars I used in that stretch of road, not if they come off that corner at the same time. however, a ford GT easily can as it tops out the same as the z06.
I tested this with my mate b4z4 last night after my original post.
we went to the track near future, and ran the db9 vs the z06, tvr sag and even the c6, and never did I come anywhere near close to him.

so I started thinking about why would you so openly cheat when it was obvious you had several people who seemed fairly well informed on the track ? that, coupled with your return to post in an intelligable and mature manner also leads me to think it was perhaps another bug and that I was in the wrong.
that being said, I cannot honestly say Im 100% sure you are cheating, but I also cannot with 100% surety say you are not.
but I think it more likely than not I owe you an apology

MartyMcSupaFly
18-06-2007, 02:22
If cheater are banned, they should also be removed from the Global Rankings as well.

whodunnit
18-06-2007, 02:53
yeah marty it will happen. thats what the resetting ranking thing was about in the post the mole sent us.

Iakopa
18-06-2007, 04:38
Umm i cant find the thread where he sent Catrina_Lansbury private mesasges with sexual harrassment. Does anyone remember when he sent her threatening private messages, when she asked some mod for help they banned her for being a victim? (kiddy mod)

Atari is desparate by putting underage kids as mod on this forum.

Your post about that reminded me of a person who did just the same on a Land Rover forum I used to frequent. There is no need or reason to dig up peoples past.
I talk to Unimatrixero daily and he is a good bloke and was recently married, you know nothing about him.

FredMcDougall
18-06-2007, 07:26
Your post about that reminded me of a person who did just the same on a Land Rover forum I used to frequent. There is no need or reason to dig up peoples past.
I talk to Unimatrixero daily and he is a good bloke and was recently married, you know nothing about him.

Yep, I think I'm going to go with this. Stupid accusations..

Reiteration..
you know nothing about him.

TFSKiwi
18-06-2007, 07:50
That homey and warm conversation that d0sitmatr and advancedOption were having reminded me of an issue we have here in NZ - we are often a LONG way away from the servers, and the lag resulting from that can cause some odd things to happen. It looks like advancedOption is a fellow NZer, kind of makes the whole mess make more sense. It's a curse for us here, I wouldn't want to live anywhere else but internet gaming can be a real pain in the posterior.

Stop going around naming names and calling people cheaters it's against TOS and Forum rules. Anyone could print false information about someone's name it is not that hard.


Exactly - some sore loser with a bad attitude could name anyone else just because they lost a few races. This is not the place to name 'cheaters', because it's impossible to prove.

Uncle_Tyrone
18-06-2007, 08:04
Exactly - some sore loser with a bad attitude could name anyone else just because they lost a few races. This is not the place to name 'cheaters', because it's impossible to prove.

When ever they are kids and immature people playing games they become spiteful when they lose to better gamers. This sort of thread compels them to make false accusations because they are sore losers.

America's Army Online Game was ruined by two kinds of undesirable gamers: cheaters and cry babies. TDU is not exempted by such undesirables.

However they are folks like me that dont cheat and we dont give a hoot about cheaters or cry babies. Just enjoy the game and stop this cry baby thread.

d0sitmatr
18-06-2007, 08:22
we have here in NZ - I wouldn't want to live anywhere else but internet gaming can be a real pain in the posterior.

man, Ive always wanted to go to NZ :cry2: but its so darn expensive and such a long flight. I just couldnt convince myself it was truly worth the cost.

now, of course, if I had the option of moving there...

that coupled with the fact I surf... pure bliss :jump:
you wouldnt happen to need any hurricane standard window installers there would you ? tonguegre

Uncle_Tyrone
18-06-2007, 08:25
man, Ive always wanted to go to NZ :cry2: but its so darn expensive and such a long flight. I just couldnt convince myself it was truly worth the cost.

now, of course, if I had the option of moving there...

that coupled with the fact I surf... pure bliss :jump:
you wouldnt happen to need any hurricane standard window installers there would you ? tonguegre


NZ is full of poisonous snakes :)

advancedOption
18-06-2007, 08:50
that being said, I cannot honestly say Im 100% sure you are cheating, but I also cannot with 100% surety say you are not.
but I think it more likely than not I owe you an apology
Well I guess I should apologize too, I did get pretty heated. I'm about as anti-cheating as it gets... so being accused of it really gets me going.

Well d0simatr, I guess we should put this behind us, and I'll cruise over to your location some time and we can go for a spin (and I swear I'll be in a FORD GT! or an RS4 if the patch is out).

oh and...
That homey and warm conversation that d0sitmatr and advancedOption were having reminded me of an issue we have here in NZ - we are often a LONG way away from the servers, and the lag resulting from that can cause some odd things to happen. It looks like advancedOption is a fellow NZer, kind of makes the whole mess make more sense. It's a curse for us here, I wouldn't want to live anywhere else but internet gaming can be a real pain in the posterior.
I am in New Zealand, so yeah, lag is a big issue. I do want to live somewhere else though... but... mainly because it's so bitterly cold here right now.

TFSKiwi
18-06-2007, 09:58
NZ is full of poisonous snakes :)


Haha, none of them reptiles!! :Bla:

TFSKiwi
18-06-2007, 10:04
I am in New Zealand, so yeah, lag is a big issue. I do want to live somewhere else though... but... mainly because it's so bitterly cold here right now.

What??? Don't be a p... oops, can't say that :lol:

d0sitmatr
18-06-2007, 17:01
no need to apologize, I was in the wrong and you had every right to be upset.
and after last night, Im even more convinced I was in the wrong seeing as something similiar happened to me, during a session with someone I race with all the time, he switched tracks, yet I was still on the previous track, forcing me to ned to leave and rejoin. the scary part of that, is there was several people racing us who I had know knowledge of ! and not just 1 or 2 races, but for 4 or 5 races ! on my screen, there was only 3, sometimes 4 players, yet apparently the pit had a full grid the entire time. weirdblue

TFSkiwi, doesnt NZ have one of the most poisonous watersnakes on the planet ?

Dop3man
18-06-2007, 19:35
Atari is desparate by putting underage kids as mod on this forum.
lol underage kids? :nuts:

TFSKiwi
19-06-2007, 01:20
TFSkiwi, doesnt NZ have one of the most poisonous watersnakes on the planet ?

Unless you're talking about me, no. That might be the Australian tiger snake you're thinking of.

Australia - horrible place, bad sports, bad accent, south pacific somewhere
New Zealand - amazing place, best sportspeople in the world, home of Middle-earth, south pacific somewhere. Not the same place.

B4zza
19-06-2007, 02:28
Australia - horrible place, bad sports, bad accent, south pacific somewhere



Bad accent? Do you live in a different NZ than the one i am familier with? Im sorry,you cant call Aussie accents bad because YOU kiwis have the most retarded accent on the planet! FUSH AND CHUPS ANYONE? tonguegre

CRIKEY!

I dont know if lag is so much an issue with this game but more the netcode is just rubbish,hence why i have given up racing with collisions on,at least for now.

Uncle_Tyrone
19-06-2007, 03:01
Unless you're talking about me, no. That might be the Australian tiger snake you're thinking of.

Australia - horrible place, bad sports, bad accent, south pacific somewhere
New Zealand - amazing place, best sportspeople in the world, home of Middle-earth, south pacific somewhere. Not the same place.


Lol Australia has beaten NZ in rugby and cricket for over 120 years. Australian could pronounce "Six" properly newzealanders cant. So who has bad accent?

If this forum has voice options all NZlanders would get banned for saying "SIX".

d0sitmatr
19-06-2007, 03:19
openned a can of worms kiwi ;)

Uncle_Tyrone
19-06-2007, 03:30
Unless you're talking about me, no. That might be the Australian tiger snake you're thinking of.

Australia - horrible place, bad sports, bad accent, south pacific somewhere
New Zealand - amazing place, best sportspeople in the world, home of Middle-earth, south pacific somewhere. Not the same place.


According to us Australia is north of New Zealand muahhaha.

Iakopa
19-06-2007, 04:02
Australia - horrible place, bad sports, bad accent, south pacific somewhere

We kick your behinds in sports on a regular basis. It's a shame your country has to be constituted under our government body and to some extent share our flag. At least our accent can properly punctuate common words such as, fish, six and others that I care not to remember.

*Sigh* Typical Kiwi. madred: :salut2:

TFSKiwi
19-06-2007, 04:09
Lol Australia has beaten NZ in rugby and cricket for over 120 years. Australian could pronounce "Six" properly newzealanders cant. So who has bad accent?

If this forum has voice options all NZlanders would get banned for saying "SIX".
Wot? I say SIX. 'Stralians say SEEKS. I say FISH & CHIPS, Aussies say FEESH and CHEEPS. Weird. :nuts:

Cricket, huh. Now when was it.. ah yes, 1981. Last bowl of the match, could go either way. Aussies had to win!! So they bowled underarm. Quote:
"Australia won the game, but boos were heard from the crowd and the New Zealand batsmen marched off in disgust. Since that day the underarm bowling incident has been a source of discussion, both heated and jocular, between Australians and New Zealanders." I'll never forget the look of utter contempt on Richard Hadlees' face. NEVER going to live that one down...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underarm_bowling_incident_1981
Yeah, they are good at rugby, but so are we... All Blacks rock! Just talking to my mate Norm from Canada (TFSBucket) on TS and the All Blacks pretty much trashed the Canadians. We won the ironman last week too. Whee!

TFSBucket
19-06-2007, 04:19
Cricket and Rugby your good at, but how's your HOCKEY team doing ???
Canada rules Hockey !!!! mdr1

mad924
19-06-2007, 04:22
Lol Australia has beaten NZ in rugby and cricket for over 120 years. Australian could pronounce "Six" properly newzealanders cant. So who has bad accent?

If this forum has voice options all NZlanders would get banned for saying "SIX".

Oi! no complaints from the West Island thanks! ;) We can talk however we like... we're allowed to. Because you guys gave us Neighbours and home & away.

Iakopa
19-06-2007, 04:26
Wot? I say SIX. 'Stralians say SEEKS. I say FISH & CHIPS, Aussies say FEESH and CHEEPS. Weird. :nuts:


:mefiant:

Can you only bring up dodgey cricket match from 1981? You're talking about sports, well Peter Brock wasn't a kiwi. That is the end of all sports debates in my books, Peter Brock was not a Kiwi and he was and still is the only sporting figure that I am a huge fan of.

TFSKiwi
19-06-2007, 04:32
:mefiant:

Can you only bring up dodgey cricket match from 1981? You're talking about sports, well Peter Brock wasn't a kiwi. That is the end of all sports debates in my books, Peter Brock was not a Kiwi and he was and still is the only sporting figure that I am a huge fan of.

NZ'r Possum Bourne was one of the world's leading rally drivers. :bravo:

Mate, we could spend a year and a day taking the p... (can I or can't I say that??) out of each other. Hopefully we can settle it online sometime... :chapeau:

TFSKiwi
19-06-2007, 07:03
Cricket and Rugby your good at, but how's your HOCKEY team doing ???
Canada rules Hockey !!!! mdr1
I REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted to make reference to the puck, but might just be pushing it in the context I wanted to say it.... Haha, yeah, hard to maul Canada in ice hockey.

Y'know, we're not supposed to change the subject in-thread, but with this thread and the Sick of Atari thread, does anyone really care? It's not as if the titles are particulary constructive or inspiring.... ?

mad924
19-06-2007, 08:46
NZ is full of poisonous snakes :)

only when they make it thru customs :P

TFSKiwi
19-06-2007, 09:16
man, Ive always wanted to go to NZ :cry2: but its so darn expensive and such a long flight. I just couldnt convince myself it was truly worth the cost.

July/August last year my wife & I went to Canada and the US to meet the guys in our TFS clan that I've gotten to know over the years. We liked it so much we're going to do it again! When we've saved up enough dosh, that is. Lotto isn't working for us as a funding plan at the moment. Yet.

you wouldnt happen to need any hurricane standard window installers there would you ? tonguegre

Nope... we don't do hurricanes here.
Oh wait, yes we do, the Wellington region's Hurricanes, one of the better rugby teams in NZ :laugh:
http://www.hurricanes.co.nz/

Iakopa
19-06-2007, 09:20
Bah, you know that the pidle will never stop between OZ and NZ. You all just think you are better :nono: :salut2:


lolblue:

TFSKiwi
19-06-2007, 09:29
Bah, you know that the pidle will never stop between OZ and NZ. You all just think you are better :nono: :salut2:


lolblue:


Right back at ya!! ;)

Uncle_Tyrone
19-06-2007, 10:18
Before we worry about cheaters we have to first have a game that is fully playable.

Big_Fat_Ugly_Dude
19-06-2007, 11:34
I saw MReLecTro cheating today he was flying around the airport runway and i saw him jump 200 metres in the air. It's cheaters like him that ruined the game.

Bullet-of-Speed
25-06-2007, 21:03
nick: Bullet-of-Speed
track: Tour of the Island
time: 00:09.47


Its all there, on the website in leaderboard section.


Why Atari dont ban those ppl's ?


Ok guys, im am this player^^ yes its true that im cheating this time, sry for that. i know that everyone is pissed off becaus cheating. the reason why im did that is that i cant make the first place because of cheaters. no battles because of cheaters. the best times are cheating. i swear that i never wanna cheating in this game. it makes the game bad :nono: :( i just wanna show every cheater with this time that the game has a better reason to play than cheating. it dont makes fun if u make a good time and see that u are place ... and 50 cheaters are better than you. without a patch, the battles between players are only cheating battles, no one iteressts you driving skill. i mean the best cheater got the best times, and not the best driver got the best times. i hope atari bann all cheaters after reset the rankings. but plz not me. im a good player, im friendly and i dont wann a cheat anymore. sry for the problems if done to u all. if u see me at the game i show u that i just wanna have fun with u at freerides and battles :)

sry for my bad english, im german. but i must tell u this, why im doing this.

hope u understand that, and sry for all again sour:

Bronco80
25-06-2007, 21:19
Ok guys, im am this player^^ yes its true that im cheating this time, sry for that. i know that everyone is pissed off becaus cheating. the reason why im did that is that i cant make the first place because of cheaters. no battles because of cheaters. the best times are cheating. i swear that i never wanna cheating in this game. it makes the game bad :nono: :( i just wanna show every cheater with this time that the game has a better reason to play than cheating. it dont makes fun if u make a good time and see that u are place ... and 50 cheaters are better than you. without a patch, the battles between players are only cheating battles, no one iteressts you driving skill. i mean the best cheater got the best times, and not the best driver got the best times. i hope atari bann all cheaters after reset the rankings. but plz not me. im a good player, im friendly and i dont wann a cheat anymore. sry for the problems if done to u all. if u see me at the game i show u that i just wanna have fun with u at freerides and battles :)

sry for my bad english, im german. but i must tell u this, why im doing this.

hope u understand that, and sry for all again sour:

So you have cheated to piss off cheaters.... very clever... How old are you? :mefiant:

MartyMcSupaFly
26-06-2007, 00:13
Cricket and Rugby your good at, but how's your HOCKEY team doing ???
Canada rules Hockey !!!! mdr1
I guess our sunny weather kind of makes it hard to have much ice. Time to go down to the beach. mdr1

B4zza
26-06-2007, 02:53
Ok guys, im am this player^^ yes its true that im cheating this time, sry for that. i know that everyone is pissed off becaus cheating. the reason why im did that is that i cant make the first place because of cheaters. no battles because of cheaters. the best times are cheating. i swear that i never wanna cheating in this game. it makes the game bad :nono: :( i just wanna show every cheater with this time that the game has a better reason to play than cheating. it dont makes fun if u make a good time and see that u are place ... and 50 cheaters are better than you. without a patch, the battles between players are only cheating battles, no one iteressts you driving skill. i mean the best cheater got the best times, and not the best driver got the best times. i hope atari bann all cheaters after reset the rankings. but plz not me. im a good player, im friendly and i dont wann a cheat anymore. sry for the problems if done to u all. if u see me at the game i show u that i just wanna have fun with u at freerides and battles :)

sry for my bad english, im german. but i must tell u this, why im doing this.

hope u understand that, and sry for all again sour:


Hope we understand what? You cheated because you wanted to be no1? Thats no justification.You cheated because you couldnt finish the challenge? AGAIN no excuse, i did EVERY solo challenge in this game with KB and AUTO trans, THEY ARE NOT THAT HARD TO WIN,YOU SURE DO NOT NEED TO CHEAT!

I hear so many people sooking about the leaderboards yet i fail to understand why, its not like being ranked on the leaderboards has anything to do with getting %100 of the game.AND TBH there aint that many cheaters on the leaderboards, i went and set some fast times on a few of the solo challenges the other day and easily placed in the top 20, yes there is cheaters there, but there are legitimate players at least in the top 20.Just ignore the cheaters times.

Whats even funnier is that i set better times on f locked races with a f car than the cheaters do with Enzos LOL, get some skill NUBBS!

I feel i can see in to the future, all cheaters are gone and peope still sook about time on leaderboards, just because they cannot drive well!

TFSKiwi
26-06-2007, 04:51
Ok guys, im am this player^^ yes its true that im cheating this time, sry for that. i know that everyone is pissed off becaus cheating. the reason why im did that is that i cant make the first place because of cheaters. no battles because of cheaters. the best times are cheating. i swear that i never wanna cheating in this game. it makes the game bad :nono: :( i just wanna show every cheater with this time that the game has a better reason to play than cheating. it dont makes fun if u make a good time and see that u are place ... and 50 cheaters are better than you. without a patch, the battles between players are only cheating battles, no one iteressts you driving skill. i mean the best cheater got the best times, and not the best driver got the best times. i hope atari bann all cheaters after reset the rankings. but plz not me. im a good player, im friendly and i dont wann a cheat anymore. sry for the problems if done to u all. if u see me at the game i show u that i just wanna have fun with u at freerides and battles :)

sry for my bad english, im german. but i must tell u this, why im doing this.

hope u understand that, and sry for all again sour:

....What colour is the sky in your world? :mefiant:

DrunkDriver
26-06-2007, 05:19
Ok guys, im am this player^^ yes its true that im cheating this time, sry for that. i know that everyone is pissed off becaus cheating. the reason why im did that is that i cant make the first place because of cheaters. no battles because of cheaters. the best times are cheating. i swear that i never wanna cheating in this game. it makes the game bad :nono: :( i just wanna show every cheater with this time that the game has a better reason to play than cheating. it dont makes fun if u make a good time and see that u are place ... and 50 cheaters are better than you. without a patch, the battles between players are only cheating battles, no one iteressts you driving skill. i mean the best cheater got the best times, and not the best driver got the best times. i hope atari bann all cheaters after reset the rankings. but plz not me. im a good player, im friendly and i dont wann a cheat anymore. sry for the problems if done to u all. if u see me at the game i show u that i just wanna have fun with u at freerides and battles :)

sry for my bad english, im german. but i must tell u this, why im doing this.

hope u understand that, and sry for all again sour:
Another percentage of those racers teamed up and slipped streamed their way to the top of the leaders board. Go ahead try it. Get a ps2 compatible headset and call up the Skype users and they'll be glad to help ya. Just remember to bring ya "A" game!

Jonniringodingo
26-06-2007, 05:53
Hey, TFSBUCKET:

Sorry to respond so late in the game, but did you say that Canada rules hockey?

I'll put my Redwings against ANY Canadian team, anytime!

Bullet-of-Speed
26-06-2007, 18:25
the next time u see me at the rankings, it will be a true time without cheating. im happy that the rankings are resetet, so i can start to make the best time and have a challenge with other players :) plz dont say that i cant win the challenges. im a good racer. this aktion was a bad misstake from me and ive say sorry the whole time. i should never tell u that i was the player but its important for me to have a good vibe at the game. is stop cheating some weeks ago. just need more pratice and i beat u all maybee :)

maybee i become the best one day :atari:

holck
26-06-2007, 19:45
the next time u see me at the rankings, it will be a true time without cheating. im happy that the rankings are resetet, so i can start to make the best time and have a challenge with other players :) plz dont say that i cant win the challenges. im a good racer. this aktion was a bad misstake from me and ive say sorry the whole time. i should never tell u that i was the player but its important for me to have a good vibe at the game. is stop cheating some weeks ago. just need more pratice and i beat u all maybee :)

maybee i become the best one day :atari:

I must say you have a very good imagination,

Either your not that old, or you smoke pot all day.. tonguegre
"its important for me to have a good vibe at the game."

SHIDO100
26-06-2007, 19:52
hi all

I was racing a guy just now. he was in a ferrari and so was i .. starange thing happend..

i looked in my mirror and he was about 300 meters behind me .. so i pulls up to the finish line and he appears beside me and wins the race ...

Removed cheating i recon .. he was way behind then just appears there next to me?

wish i took a screeny of it :aie:

Please Do Not Swear In Your Posts

d0sitmatr
26-06-2007, 20:22
hi all

I was racing a guy just now. he was in a ferrari and so was i .. starange thing happend..

i looked in my mirror and he was about 300 meters behind me .. so i pulls up to the finish line and he appears beside me and wins the race ...

Removed cheating i recon .. he was way behind then just appears there next to me?

wish i took a screeny of it :aie:
it happens all the time due to lag and latency issues.

OutrunzPolice
26-06-2007, 23:51
This guy should be avoided: Victory_RUSSIA

Not a cheat but he's not a pleasent person to be around, all kinds of insults towards other players, constant ramming, and generally being disruptive while claiming that because he has 'champion' status it allows him to annoy everyone around including other champs.

And not one person said anything to him to provoke him.

If you see him, just go to map and spawn elsewhere. :)

Steevo69
27-06-2007, 05:15
I have had a bad experiance and some good ones. One idgit followed me around for the better part of two hours while the game was working (but that is another issue) and kept purposely wrecking me. I was driving only a Saturn Sky as it was all I had at the time. I was learning how to drift, in a sky mind you. and he would bump me around and push me off the road.



But there have been times where I have had a decent race of non race type with different people, just running free mode and run into someone on the road and follow each other for a few miles and watch each others style.



I have been playing racing games all my life and love this game, please I beg just fix the issues and ban the bad cheaters, or make it so each person can ban a few from sight and interaction.

d0sitmatr
27-06-2007, 06:17
the player Neil_Droggy
confirmed by 4 players using a speed hack.

gawd Atari, plz get that patch out !

bunny1942
30-06-2007, 00:49
kL31n_K3v3, This guy was able to lift his car up like 100+ feet in the air and move around gracefully, and this was confirmed by 4 other guys who was in the same session as me weirdblue

Matt88sco
30-06-2007, 22:01
snejkiPOL

Why: Apparently at Ace level, but was driving a Merc CLK 55 AMG (not the DTM one) in normal mode and couldn't even go round a corner without crashing.
Also, I was in a ford GT in hardcore mode, I was doing about 160-170mph, when he suddenly smashed into the back of me and sent me careening off the road at 220mph...
Suspicious? hmmm... :nono:

whodunnit
30-06-2007, 22:24
it has been asked numerous times by moderators and it is also in the forum rules that names of game players who may or may not be cheating not be mentioned in this forum. why has a mod not locked this thread yet?

Katrina_Lansbury
01-07-2007, 01:25
Anyone who comes to this thread to name some one is either angry that they lost the race or is trying to frame someone of cheating.

One way to stop hackers is to remove RAM without RAm they cant use memory dump. On the other hand without RAM you cant use your computer. So as you can see they is no way of stopping hackers and cheaters.

This thread is pointless and does nothing but promote disharmony between innocent players and the accusers.

There is already an official sticky about cheating and this one should have been closed or locked a long time ago. As you could see the thread starter is a known trouble maker and he was banned a long time ago and so should his thread die with it.

PSYGNOZIS
01-07-2007, 03:25
Anyone who comes to this thread to name some one is either angry that they lost the race or is trying to frame someone of cheating.

One way to stop hackers is to remove RAM without RAm they cant use memory dump. On the other hand without RAM you cant use your computer. So as you can see they is no way of stopping hackers and cheaters.

This thread is pointless and does nothing but promote disharmony between innocent players and the accusers.

There is already an official sticky about cheating and this one should have been closed or locked a long time ago. As you could see the thread starter is a known trouble maker and he was banned a long time ago and so should his thread die with it.

I say, watch your worlds boy :mad:



Easy to have a proof.

Just take a look at rankings in game :reading:

OR

http://www.testdriveunlimited.com/community/index_pc.php?pg=hall_fame

whodunnit
01-07-2007, 03:28
last time i checked, katrina was a females name, and as such, you just called her a boy


learn2socialize

TFSKiwi
01-07-2007, 04:05
last time i checked, katrina was a females name, and as such, you just called her a boy


learn2socialize

The 'clueless' title seems to fit, though :lol:

d0sitmatr
01-07-2007, 04:07
any of us could be a girl, how many people have you seen driving around in the famale persona ?
names really have nothing to do with it, nor does saying it really, I could be a man or a woman, only way you would ever know the truth with absolute certainty, would be to meet me in person, which is highly unlikely.

there was actually a huge stink about this on a technical forum, some guy decided to post as a woman, after he had been posting for some time already as a man (dont ask me why)
then, after several months had gone by, and his "female" persona kept getting bombarded by requests from other males, he decided to start a "relationship" with her. (totally wack, if you ask me)
anyways, I guess he got tired of the game and posted that she and her "daughter" had been killed in a car accident.
in the ensueing months, some other members of the forum found certain things he posted suspicious, and finally really investigated things, eventually coming to the conclusion that he had "killed her off".... so he had to come clean about his duplicity, or possibly deal with a murder investigation. I even think he might have faced some kind of charges, but I dont know for sure if thats true or not.

Katrina_Lansbury
01-07-2007, 05:16
any of us could be a girl, how many people have you seen driving around in the famale persona ?
names really have nothing to do with it, nor does saying it really, I could be a man or a woman, only way you would ever know the truth with absolute certainty, would be to meet me in person, which is highly unlikely.

there was actually a huge stink about this on a technical forum, some guy decided to post as a woman, after he had been posting for some time already as a man (dont ask me why)
then, after several months had gone by, and his "female" persona kept getting bombarded by requests from other males, he decided to start a "relationship" with her. (totally wack, if you ask me)
anyways, I guess he got tired of the game and posted that she and her "daughter" had been killed in a car accident.
in the ensueing months, some other members of the forum found certain things he posted suspicious, and finally really investigated things, eventually coming to the conclusion that he had "killed her off".... so he had to come clean about his duplicity, or possibly deal with a murder investigation. I even think he might have faced some kind of charges, but I dont know for sure if thats true or not.


This thread has nothing to do with being male or female - it's a flame thread and it should be shut down because people come in here to flame innocent people then accused and brand them as cheaters.

This is the strangest FOrum ever - people are encouraged to break forum rules and the mod doesnt even do anything about it.

d0sitmatr
01-07-2007, 11:05
This thread has nothing to do with being male or female

well... duh
if you didnt notice there were several posts regarding your gender.... rolleyesa
and Im not sure, but is your name mentioned in this thread ? or the alias you use in TDU ?
if not, then why do you care ?
I admit I made a mistake 1 time, the first time I encountered a specifc bug in TDU that Id not heard of yet, and as you can see we resolved the situation as adults, in a respectful way, I have no problem admitting when Im wrong, and as far as I know, he has accepted my apology and we both have moved on.
Ive not had a MOD tell me not to post anyone name as yet, if such had happened, I would refrain from doing so, as I break rules iRL only :p