IFCA presents Race Pro series!

[chilledheat]

http://www.freewebs.com/ifcaracing/2009Season/General/banner.png (http://www.ifcaracing.com)
www.ifcaracing.com (http://www.ifcaracing.com)

Hello and welcome to the IFCA: The Premier in Online Racing!


EVENTS

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- IFCA Race Pro Hot Lap Challenge - Sign Up! (http://ifca.highforum.net/hot-lap-challenge-f182/)



http://www.freewebs.com/ifcaracing/2009Season/Events/RacePro/SingleSeat/singleseat_banner.jpg
- IFCA SingleSeat Series 1 - Sign Up! (http://ifca.highforum.net/singleseat-series-1-f204/)



http://www.freewebs.com/ifcaracing/2009Season/Events/RacePro/ProRacing/ProRacing_banner.jpg
- IFCA Pro Racing Series 1 - Sign Up! (http://ifca.highforum.net/pro-racing-series-1-f206/)





The IFCA or International Forza Club Association, is an organisation dedicated to furthering the experiences delivered by driving simulators, by creating an active racing environment where all drivers of any skill can come and compete against like-minded individuals seeking something a little extra from their favourite racing title!

Over the past year, more than 230 drivers have competed in the 5 Official IFCA Events that we run with a further 220 becoming members on the forum bringing over 550 people in contact with the IFCA and what we're all about! These 5 events included:

http://www.freewebs.com/ifcaracing/2008%20promo/events.png


To tie all these events together, we have produced a invisible points scheme - that is in addition to that series own points scheme - which goes towards each drivers individual IFCA Chmapionship campaign! As a driver enters any IFCA series throughout the year, they will be rewarded with IFCA Championship points giving them a total at the end of the year. From here, we invite the best performing drivers to have one final series to determine who is the best, and therefore IFCA Champion of that year!

Getting involved with the IFCA couldn’t be simpler! Simply navigate your way to the savvy pages of www.ifcaracing.com (http://www.ifcaracing.com/) and find the event for you! Everything is well designed, developed and planned out ensuring ease on the user, with a great forum community waiting to welcome you!

Race Pro is aimed for a late January release, so expect to see sign ups appearing late February for up to 5 different events! After all, we want you guys to get to know the game before you take part in 50+ people races!

Finally, here are some teasers to show you what we do; Enjoy!
http://www.freewebs.com/ifcaracing/2009Season/General/thumbnail.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fAUivoM1Mc&fmt=18) http://www.freewebs.com/ifcaracing/2008%20Season/In-Game%20Pictures/Spec/Racing%20Series%203/VideoPics/maple.png (http://www.vimeo.com/1490696)
Click the picture!

Hope to see you involved!

The IFCA Team

[Julio_Geordio_9]

IFCA making a jump start? :)

[chilledheat]

ah, sorry kalneil! Its sometimes taken for granted that what one forum may allow would be universal across the board - my apologies

yeah Julio, something like that lol. We're so excited by the upcoming arrival that we've pretty much got the years worth of events all planned out. Should be fantasic!

[Julio_Geordio_9]

Well I might make an effort to do some races this time round.

I think I still have an account on your forum. Not sure.....it's been a while

[chilledheat]

how long ago did you register? do you remember your username? i don't recognise your username on here so i guess it must be different!

[Julio_Geordio_9]

No idea when I registered mate. Quite a while ago during my forza days.

Username was TDR Sabre

[chilledheat]

yeah, a quick check says you registered 26 Feb, last visit 11 April and you have 2 posts lol - i do remember your name tho ;)

[Julio_Geordio_9]

lol remembered me? that's surprising as I sort of dropped out of forza pretty much about that time. Those 2 posts must have been great! lol

Funnily enough I was on fm.net for the first time in months last night, checked out my ranking on the time trials board as I was 1/3 the way through them when i left. Bit of shock of being #44 now, but 'snooze you lose' eh lol

It'll be interesting to see what you have planned for race pro though. Will drop by the forum to have a look, will need a forum name change.

You still with VVV? (I remember your name as well :)) I Still have a couple of TDR boys on my FL who moved across to VVV. Flexy and Hellbringer.

[chilledheat]

ah, i knew most of the TDR guys from going to their website, and through chrisupra

let me see if i can search out your posts lol......alas not, forum search doesn't like your name for some reason lol

RE: scoreboards. I hadn't even bothered with them. FM1 = addiction, FM2 = dissappointment

im still there yeah, not the most pro-active member though - most of my time is at ifcaracing.com. You wouldn't have seen the new website then if April was your last visit! - go have a look, let me know what you think. And i'll change your name if you wnat whenever, and if you've forgotten, password too ;)

[Julio_Geordio_9]

No, not seen the new website.

I'll drop you a pm on there re: name change.

Cheers

[mac_v2]

Lol

Looks I'm not the only one counting the days down!

[Patohm]

Cant wait for all the action rollin on ... AGAIN!!! :bravo:mdr1

[chilledheat]

ok! opening post has been re-instated to give you all a little taster ;)

[Diablo_]

Was permission given?

[chilledheat]

certainly was! by Kalniel, he removed it originally, but i took the appropriate steps to get it back up - i can forward the PM's if you want?

[Diablo_]

Nah that's fine I believe you. Just checking is all. :)

[chilledheat]

awsome. Now, i wanna say your the same Diablo found at forzacentral...maybe? lol

[Diablo_]

Yep that's me! tonguegre I get around a bit. lol

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Well isnt there a few freindly faces in here!?

What up Chilly? :D

Julio - Long time no see, hows it going?

Mac - hey man :D

Patohm - Hey man, hows the ice in germany this time of year? :D

[chilledheat]

i knew it! haha

its like home from home in here lol

Patohm rings a bell - i can't place where...

Diablo, i've PM'd you..

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Patohm = eAxis Patohm

he competed in the IFCA JGTC Series 4...

Im sure the media spotted his car on the track at some point.....

....Ah yes, here it is!!

The Red Bull S5 ;)

http://i36.tinypic.com/vzx7rb.jpg

[kalniel]

Please remember to keep discussion related to Race Pro on these forums :)

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Sorry :D

Theres not many screenshots to place up of Race Pro :D
Anticipating the next bunch :D

[Julio_Geordio_9]

Well isnt there a few freindly faces in here!?

Julio - Long time no see, hows it going?



All good man....all good.

How's you? Last time we spoke was when GTA4 came out (I think).

I'm just waiting out for Race Pro to arrive now that I have gotten Forza out my system. Really looking forward to this game and all that it will bring with it.

Be good to have some races with you once again.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Yeah the whole team is looking forward to Race Pro! Cant wait!! :D

[chilledheat]

do you know what im looking forward to or at least anticipating?

a decent replay system! lol

[Julio_Geordio_9]

Being able to choose to race a single 'ghost' would be nice as well

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

I would like to be able to hold the most successive barrel rolls in a F3000 car

[Julio_Geordio_9]

I'll fight ya for that record :)

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

How about double-pirouuret backside 180 in radical SR4's?

[Julio_Geordio_9]

Maybe with a tweak

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Haha, or perhaps going backwards up the corkscrew at Laguna?

[Julio_Geordio_9]

That is the only way to take the corkscrew.

Fact.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Julio after lookin at that Track Reveal at Laguna Seca - I cant wait to take the corner anyway! But...the promise of in the wet...dammit I can hardly wait lol

[chilledheat]

weather is something im really looking forward too

who remembers driving whether in the TOCA days - that was immense! the car would suddenly lose control because of aquaplaning (i presume anyway lol!)



the opening post looks like its been edited too - so i gotta re-re-edit it to not sound as bad lol

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Ash how've you got that Image still?

[chilledheat]

created a still image...suprisingly lol

check this updated page (http://ifca.highforum.net/from-the-ceo-s-to-you-f20/show-your-ifca-appreciation-t1554.htm) in a second!

[chilledheat]

Hey guys, just wanted to drop a line about our status so you don't potentially miss out. Brought about by being able to customise car paints from a certain game, the IFCA now force all drivers to have a unique car number, which they use for the whole calander year

Now, whilst we don't know if Race Pro can affect car numbers, the system will still be in place and is cross game transferable. So a number chosen in Forza, will also be your number in Race Pro - vice versa, what with Forza 3 (or next as it seems to be called) coming round the corner soon...

So, visit the site (link in sig) if you'd like to claim a 'good' number so you will become set for which ever game you'd like to race in a fun competitive organised way!

If not, no worries - just want to give everyone the same opportunities! ;)

Thanks all! :D

http://i33.tinypic.com/2mdjx93.jpg

[PzR_Tak]

what with Forza 3 (or next as it seems to be called)


Did you see this (http://www.autogaming.net/xbox360/2103/forza-3-pictures-accidentally-revealed-or-intentionally-done/)?

[chilledheat]

oh wow, i did not - i stopped going to that site when it seemed some mods behaviours and actions became irratic, unrepensive and undeserved

Thanks for that!

[Brako_UK]

Haha PzR,those are either the worst photoshopped pictures ever or they are the developers basic plans.either way they look a bit too.....what's the word i could use?.

They sort of look more like something you would see list of cocktail drink's on rather than a car event.a bit too arty farty for a car game in my opinion.I dont know what all the big secrecy is behind the next Forza game is about really though.I used to read those weekly reports they did but when they just kept going on about the"next big project"or what ever and saying no more about it,i just thought it sounded more childish that keeping people actually interested interested.

But once Race pro is out,i cant see how i could ever go back to playing arcade racer's again anyway.I am sure they will do a great job on the next Forza game but i lost interest in that series long ago.

[PzR_Tak]

Haha PzR,those are either the worst photoshopped pictures ever or they are the developers basic plans.either way they look a bit too.....what's the word i could use?.

They sort of look more like something you would see list of cocktail drink's on rather than a car event.

It's Tak. PzR is just my clan's handle. Hellbringer isn't called VVV is he?

Hey, those pictures aren't mine, I don't ever go onto that site. The company in question, one that did in fact work on the original Forza, when you go to the link on their website that used to show those posters, rather than being a blank page, the pages header still shows "Forza Race Event Posters". Go on, have a look.

Not sure how a hoaxer would manage to get that to stay there if they took the page down, not unless they have put a placeholder "This cannot be found".....

I didn't put any opinion into that, just showed chilled what there was.

[nagge]

But once Race pro is out,i cant see how i could ever go back to playing arcade racer's again anyway.I am sure they will do a great job on the next Forza game but i lost interest in that series long ago.

True, I hope (and think) that Race Pro will set the standard for any future racing game on the 360.

[Brako_UK]

No i was'nt saying you made them,i was just saying they looked a bit ropey is all,Or perhaps they are just very basic plans.

[chilledheat]

thanks for the info regardless, is good to see. That said, keep the thread on topic - i don't want it taken down or feel like it needs extra moderation because its veering of on a tangent... :(

lol, thanks! ;)

[Comet302]

well.. i have now requested my number... can u guess what it is?... lol...

I am glad to see that you are going to have a Race Pro series.... thank you!...

I really want to have some great races with the better drivers out there.... instead of just the noobie drivers that, unfortunately, you know will be out there....

I look forward to finding out more information once Race Pro arrives... :)

[Brako_UK]

I think you lot will get a really good tournament with Race pro and hopefully it will let you all pick your race number to make things a little easier.

[chilledheat]

would be really good if it would let you alter car numbers. Even if it did, im not sure if it would go 3 numbers deep. Probably too soon to be thinking about it - just get hopes up lol

btw, we're not going to have just a series, were going to have many series - different things to appeal to different people! Variety is indeed the spice of life!

and your number is 305 ;) lol, only playing - 302 is yours for at least 2009!!

[Comet302]

would be really good if it would let you alter car numbers. Even if it did, im not sure if it would go 3 numbers deep. Probably too soon to be thinking about it - just get hopes up lol

btw, we're not going to have just a series, were going to have many series - different things to appeal to different people! Variety is indeed the spice of life!

and your number is 305 ;) lol, only playing - 302 is yours for at least 2009!!

hey thanks chilledheat!.... and having many series sounds very interesting.. i guess with the different classes already put together in the game, that will make things a little easier... I can't wait!.... mdr1

[Brako_UK]

I do not wish to take part in any tournaments being,or to be held,but how does the actual IFCA work?.If a random person should set a great lap time on a fast lap mode in the game does this person then automatically get entered into the IFCA ranking system?.

How many sort of events have you held so far and do you have any actual footage of them i could view please?.I am not a huge fan of multiplayer games these day's but as this is to do with motor sports i would very much like to see any footage you have created if possible.

[chilledheat]

I do not wish to take part in any tournaments being,or to be held,but how does the actual IFCA work?

We organise racing leagues or series in which anybody can take part. All they have to do is to sign up to the series. To sign up for the series requires them to have a unique 2009 car number, agree to the rules, provide connectivity information etc. Basically, stuff that we need to know to ensure the event can run as smoothly as possible, and allow us to spot red flags before they become an inssue further down the road.

Once a driver is signed up, the event is theirs to race - clean racing stressed at all times. Then you just have a great time with a field of like-minded individuals! These series also had prizes (in game) and write-ups/reviews so drivers get their moments in the limelight!

Underneith this is IFCA Championship points scoring. The Championship is an end of year event which ties together all the previous events together - taking the best IFCA Championship point scoring drivers into a final series! For this we aim for good prizes, exposure etc - our reward for them if you will!


If a random person should set a great lap time on a fast lap mode in the game does this person then automatically get entered into the IFCA ranking system?

OK, this is a little bit different to the organised racing series that we do and isn't the priority - it is something a little extra to incite a little driver competition. The IFCA World Ranking - probably going to be renamed IFCA Forza World Ranking as it won't include Race Pro (we have yet to discuss this feature in regards to Race Pro) - is designed to give a little scope to who are the good drivers overal - not just hotlap. To quote

"It is the top 250 best Forza2 drivers in the world according to the IFCA. It is based on overall :

- Hot Lap
- Time Trials
- IFCA sanctioned series wins
- IFCA Match Race wins
- T10 HLC
- Major tournament performance
- even some opinion/argue polls"

More info, click here! (http://ifca.highforum.net/ifca-world-rankings-f102/ifca-world-rankings-information-and-answers-t977.htm)

How many sort of events have you held so far and do you have any actual footage of them i could view please?

Through 2008, we had 21 series, with the Championship at the end. In 2007, we also organised series, but i don't remember how many as it was our first IFCA half year...

Videos? We certianly do! Here is our Video Vault (http://ifca.highforum.net/video-vault-f101/) which contains every video ever made i believe, by us or community content! There are empty folders, so try these links first:
- SpecRacing series 2 (http://ifca.highforum.net/specracing-series-f111/specracing-series-2-t922.htm)
- SpecRacing series 3 (http://ifca.highforum.net/specracing-series-f111/specracing-series-3-t1196.htm)
- An example of really clean racing! (http://ifca.highforum.net/misc-f113/the-gaming-extreme-challenge-some-close-racing-t1868.htm)
- An example of how things can go terribly terribly wrong! (http://ifca.highforum.net/specracing-series-f111/specforza-series-7-t916.htm) (watch Race 5)


We would have more, but i create them, and if you look at the videos hosted at Vimeo (Spec Series 3) they take a lot of time to do, especially with the crappy system they have in place. Race Pro should be a LOT easier ;)


Hope that helps - feel free to post anything if you want answers or help ;)

[Aizen93]

I do not wish to take part in any tournaments being,or to be held,but how does the actual IFCA work?.If a random person should set a great lap time on a fast lap mode in the game does this person then automatically get entered into the IFCA ranking system?.

How many sort of events have you held so far and do you have any actual footage of them i could view please?.I am not a huge fan of multiplayer games these day's but as this is to do with motor sports i would very much like to see any footage you have created if possible.

This is not personal dude but i think it's freakin weird for any Racing fan to say that they don't like competition or racing against others online, of course nobody likes to race against noobs who push you off the track or don't respect basic racing rules but racing in a league like IFCA or race against people you know has always been GREAT with racing games.

IMHO i think you just don't like or can't stand competition. Hotlapping is useless if your not going to put that skill up against worthy opponents, what's the point of just posting fast lap-times if you don't race. Nevermind me i just think it's WEIRD. rolleyesa

[SCOLancer]

Hajiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii :salut2:

[Aizen93]

Hajiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii :salut2:

Hehehehe LANC bro, good to see ya here man. We've all been hangin here since early Dec and waiting for a Demo.

[chilledheat]

anyone chewed off the own arm yet - litterally chomping at the bit... lol

[PzR_Tak]

anyone chewed off the own arm yet - litterally chomping at the bit... lol

Everytime it's got too much, I've just played Race 07!

[chilledheat]

my laptop can't run it :(

im also debating whether to buy a steering wheel now, or play the game without it and then realise ill need it then!

[Aizen93]

my laptop can't run it :(

im also debating whether to buy a steering wheel now, or play the game without it and then realise ill need it then!

I bought a steering wheel like a year ago and to this day i regret i brought it back. I do need a good chair/table before i can think about using one tho. THIS CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH

[PzR_Tak]

My PC can hardly run it. Just needs a graphics card upgrade and it'd be fine.

Really looking forward to seeing what the 360 puts out in terms of visuals. All these previews that say the graphics aren't up to much, as a racing fan, they look fantastic. Exactly what I would expect to be seeing.

So what series are you planning on running with Race Pro in the IFCA then?

[kalniel]

This is not personal dude but i think it's freakin weird for any Racing fan to say that they don't like competition or racing against others online, of course nobody likes to race against noobs who push you off the track or don't respect basic racing rules but racing in a league like IFCA or race against people you know has always been GREAT with racing games.

IMHO i think you just don't like or can't stand competition. Hotlapping is useless if your not going to put that skill up against worthy opponents, what's the point of just posting fast lap-times if you don't race. Nevermind me i just think it's WEIRD. rolleyesa

I completely disagree. But in any case let's not get into any personal judgements here okay? :)

[nagge]

So what series are you planning on running with Race Pro in the IFCA then?

I'd fancy some real endurance races, like 3-4hrs :)

[chilledheat]

I bought a steering wheel like a year ago and to this day i regret i brought it back
You took it back? Howcome?


RE: Tak - we duno yet mate. There will probably be in the region of 5 different events, but im not gona go into specifics because the ideas will be stolen! lol. I know exactly what series i'll be organising though ;)

Adding Race Pro at this time is really timely for this audience though - we've built ourselves up from scratch trying to put something together that we're proud of. Its taken over a year of hard work to get where we are, and Race Pro will be joining this momentum! I mean, we've got almost 50 sign ups for the IFCA SpecRacing series after only 13 days. Come race day, i don't know where that total is gona be, but i know that we'll probably be taking over Live come that Thursday night lol - FM2'ers won't be able to get a race in without seeing the Ford Mustang! lol


exciting times lie ahead :)

I'd fancy some real endurance races, like 3-4hrs :)

never say never, but thats a lot of commitment!

[Aizen93]

You took it back? Howcome?


RE: Tak - we duno yet mate. There will probably be in the region of 5 different events, but im not gona go into specifics because the ideas will be stolen! lol. I know exactly what series i'll be organising though ;)

Adding Race Pro at this time is really timely for this audience though - we've built ourselves up from scratch trying to put something together that we're proud of. Its taken over a year of hard work to get where we are, and Race Pro will be joining this momentum! I mean, we've got almost 50 sign ups for the IFCA SpecRacing series after only 13 days. Come race day, i don't know where that total is gona be, but i know that we'll probably be taking over Live come that Thursday night lol - FM2'ers won't be able to get a race in without seeing the Ford Mustang! lol


exciting times lie ahead :)

Back then i used to suck at Forza and i was learning how to be fast with the PAD.

[chilledheat]

I cant be fast with the pad - the changes made from forza to forza 2 for the steering put me down from being a top 5 driver to a top 50 driver. Thats why im hoping the steering wheel will bring back back that lost competitivness, but i duno if i play enough to actually 'learn' it... Besides, to make best use of the wheel, you need a setup and my bedroom is the size of a walk-in closet!

[RossiIRL]

What's the best wheel to get and I'm sick of using wheels on my knee so what could I use instead of my knee

[nagge]

I'm sick of using wheels on my knee so what could I use instead of my knee

A table? eekblue: ;)

[RossiIRL]

Ye but it's a small enough room and I use a big leather recliner desk chair

[SCOLancer]

Hehehehe LANC bro, good to see ya here man. We've all been hangin here since early Dec and waiting for a Demo.

Alright m8 yeah ive been hanging just didnt reg because not much posts from the Devs like most games but then we all know what type of game this will be :)

anyone chewed off the own arm yet - litterally chomping at the bit... lol

My mrs is starting to think im a cannibal my arm wasnt enough so just incase ive no limbs left ive started eating raw meat

I bought a steering wheel like a year ago and to this day i regret i brought it back. I do need a good chair/table before i can think about using one tho. THIS CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH

I had a wheel but sold it due to lack of proper place to sit it but although i have used it its great esp for the finest cornering


My PC can hardly run it. Just needs a graphics card upgrade and it'd be fine.

Really looking forward to seeing what the 360 puts out in terms of visuals. All these previews that say the graphics aren't up to much, as a racing fan, they look fantastic. Exactly what I would expect to be seeing.

So what series are you planning on running with Race Pro in the IFCA then?

Just a quick un whats your current graphics card and type ie: PCIE or AGP?

[PzR_Tak]

Just a quick un whats your current graphics card and type ie: PCIE or AGP?

Onboard Nvidia 6150SE. I can fit PCI-E. was a self build that never got finished due to funds issues.

[SCOLancer]

Onboard Nvidia 6150SE. I can fit PCI-E. was a self build that never got finished due to funds issues.

Ive got a spare Nvid 6800 GT PCIE going if you want it? if so just PM me your name and addy im safe no worries there, i cant seam to give it away now lol so if it helps i dont mind sending you it upto you bud

[SCOLancer]

Sorted Tak dont know ya but on way shortly;)

[Brako_UK]

This is not personal dude but i think it's freakin weird for any Racing fan to say that they don't like competition or racing against others online, of course nobody likes to race against noobs who push you off the track or don't respect basic racing rules but racing in a league like IFCA or race against people you know has always been GREAT with racing games.

IMHO i think you just don't like or can't stand competition. Hotlapping is useless if your not going to put that skill up against worthy opponents, what's the point of just posting fast lap-times if you don't race. Nevermind me i just think it's WEIRD. rolleyesa


No worrie's i dont take offence because i never really explained why i dont playing online but i will give you a few reasons.Internet speed is one problem,no matter what game it seem's or where people are from either my provider or other peoples seem's to lag which causes nothing but problems.Work hours and many other things prevent me from being able to enter competitions due to comitments else where and i dont wish to be responsable for holding up a race/game due to this reason.

There are many reasons i dont enter competitions or play online anymore,the excuse for people either screaming down the mic or general abuse or the fact they just dont seem to have the skill of others to make the game enjoyable,does make online gaming a nightmare but not everyone is like this so i dont use this as an excuse,it's just more of getting fed up with it at times.

As for the fast laps not being important,well i think your on your own there on that one,hundreds of thousands of race fans around and also race drivers them selves see this as a very important factor.I belive time attack is really starting to make the scene around the world now which adds even more interest into this type of event and adding further interest in fast lap times.

And as far as me not being competitive.....Well,i probably would'nt be where i am today if i was'nt competitive and everyone in some shape or form has a competitive edge to them not matter what it is they choose to show it in.

Hope that clears a few things up for you.

Chilledheat,i very much appriciate your reply and as soon as i have a few spare moments i will definetly be watching some of those vids.Thank you very much for such a fantastic detailed reply.

Edit.I have just watched a couple of your vids from Sebring and the Nurburgring compilation and there is some excellent driving and footage despite the poor camera angles Forza 2 offers.Very well done indeed sir.

[Aizen93]

No worrie's i dont take offence because i never really explained why i dont playing online but i will give you a few reasons.Internet speed is one problem,no matter what game it seem's or where people are from either my provider or other peoples seem's to lag which causes nothing but problems.Work hours and many other things prevent me from being able to enter competitions due to comitments else where and i dont wish to be responsable for holding up a race/game due to this reason.

There are many reasons i dont enter competitions or play online anymore,the excuse for people either screaming down the mic or general abuse or the fact they just dont seem to have the skill of others to make the game enjoyable,does make online gaming a nightmare but not everyone is like this so i dont use this as an excuse,it's just more of getting fed up with it at times.

As for the fast laps not being important,well i think your on your own there on that one,hundreds of thousands of race fans around and also race drivers them selves see this as a very important factor.I belive time attack is really starting to make the scene around the world now which adds even more interest into this type of event and adding further interest in fast lap times.

And as far as me not being competitive.....Well,i probably would'nt be where i am today if i was'nt competitive and everyone in some shape or form has a competitive edge to them not matter what it is they choose to show it in.

Hope that clears a few things up for you.

I was just guessing but that explains alot expecially the bad connections. As for Time attacks don't get me wrong it is VERY IMPORTANT for any decent racer to know how he's doing compared to others and to improve your own driving style, i was just saying it's not that fun when you don't put that skill to use.

[Brako_UK]

Yes i understand perfectly what you mean by that.A racing driver could set fast laps all day long on his own but if he does'nt know how to race in a pack without wrecking everyone because he is not used to having to switch from the perfect racing line into some tactical driving then all that proves is that he just happens to be a skilled individual when it comes to motor sports.

But no that is not the reason why i dont race online and if things were different i would love nothing more than to be involved in some fun and amazing tournaments created by the community.

Way back when i used to play Forza 2 i used to play it mostly with my brother in law and a few close friends,but even then it seemed to always be me who would let events down by not being able to stick to the time arranged due to either work plans or emergencies popping up.

So rather than having some great laughs and banter with you chaps on here and then arrange a tournament,only for me to let the side down and just create tension amongst you all,i just stick to more or less competing how i can and 9/10 thats going to be competing with you,or as best i can,on the leaderboard fast laps.

This way i still get to stay great pals with you all and no arguments have to happen.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Personally, I will be holding an event at the IFCA where competitors can choose any car available in Race Pro and attempt to complete as many stunts as possible by racing the corkscrew backwards....

Extra bonus points for anyone who lands off the map/breaks their car in two....

[Comet302]

Personally, I will be holding an event at the IFCA where competitors can choose any car available in Race Pro and attempt to complete as many stunts as possible by racing the corkscrew backwards....

Extra bonus points for anyone who lands off the map/breaks their car in two....

well... count me in... :nuts: i think it is fun to see who can do the most amazing videos out there.... i found one here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=6QxMqEW9Bh4) from Race 07...

hehe.. or check out this super flip!!!! http://youtube.com/watch?v=_76tc2VgEKs

can anyone beat this?.. LOL

[chilledheat]

very similar to this crash in real life - click me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDLNZanGATw)


BTW, let it be known that the IFCA is all about racing, but these 'just-for-fun' events spring up every now and then ;)

[PzR_Tak]

well... count me in... :nuts: i think it is fun to see who can do the most amazing videos out there.... i found one here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=6QxMqEW9Bh4) from Race 07...

Well, that's actually from Race, not Race 07, but that vid is cool. I love crashes (When I'm not involved)

[Brako_UK]

It's a shame the game did not have the detail damage of GRID other wise that could have been a spectacular crash video with the BMW.

I remember a while back seeing footage of a Colin McRae game on the playstation.The crash and the crash detail looked fantastic.

[Comet302]

oh man.. i just found this video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=EVOu3HAWsgw)... if Race Pro has this kind of detail it is gonna blow away the competition!!!!! look at 7:57!.. OMG slow mo is amazing... look at the wheels.... i am blown away from this video... i know its not Race Pro but i sure hope it equals this quality....

i am slowly not worrying about having race numbers... i know they will just have to figure out a new way within IFCA.... that's all that can be done....

very similar to this crash in real life - click me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDLNZanGATw)


BTW, let it be known that the IFCA is all about racing, but these 'just-for-fun' events spring up every now and then ;)

I do understand that.... lol... my old team used to do it once in awile... trying to jump up the corkscrew.. drifting competitions..... etc... just for something different to do....

it seems as though simbin really knows how to make the race tracks so much more detailed from what i have seen.... so this could make for some pretty amazing videos... flips and roll overs will be fun to see.... mdr1

[Brako_UK]

WOW! is a term that comes to mind after watching that footage,so many perfect camera angles on that game.Camera angles like that could seriously benefit leagues such as the IFCA aswell as the individual gamer who likes to record there footage.

If Race pro has this type of replay footage it's going to really be a lot of fun to watch rather than the tedious footage that Forza 2 sadly offered.

Many thanks for posting Comet sir.

[Comet302]

anytime Brako... i am always looking for new and exciting things to kill time while we all wait for the demo... lol....

maybe someone should make a new thread for videos... but i guess they would not be for Race Pro - YET.... it might be fun to see what everyone brings to the party...

How about find the worst crash video from only SIMBIN games!!! that's all... not real life... not any other maker... just simbin racing fun!

BUT someone may not like them being posted in here..... can that "someone" let us know if it is OK or not?...

inevitabely this forum would start to have Race Pro videos added...

so whats the harm in having some fun while we wait?

[Brako_UK]

Well seeing as Race pro is a realistic based racing sim,i wonder if someone could make a thread which could contain real life racing videos of motor sports finest moments?.It could feature anything from some supreme WTCC racing to extreme crashes etc.

[kalniel]

I don't see a problem posting links to videos that have motorsports action in categories likely to be in Race Pro - just make sure that they aren't breaching copyright etc. and don't show anything unsuitable for all-age forums like this one.

[Comet302]

I don't see a problem posting links to videos that have motorsports action in categories likely to be in Race Pro - just make sure that they aren't breaching copyright etc. and don't show anything unsuitable for all-age forums like this one.

thanks Kalniel!.... i think the group of us main posters should get together for a few races once the demo comes out.. lol.... it would be a blast!.... mdr1

Well seeing as Race pro is a realistic based racing sim,i wonder if someone could make a thread which could contain real life racing videos of motor sports finest moments?.It could feature anything from some supreme WTCC racing to extreme crashes etc.

ok brako.. u make a new one for real life videos...

i will make one for only SIMBIN game videos.... lol....

now all we need are some new and exciting videos.... LOL... :nuts:

[Brako_UK]

Will do Comet.Once again i appologise to the op for taking this topic off discussion a tad.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

oh man.. i just found this video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=EVOu3HAWsgw)... if Race Pro has this kind of detail it is gonna blow away the competition!!!!! look at 7:57!.. OMG slow mo is amazing... look at the wheels.... i am blown away from this video... i know its not Race Pro but i sure hope it equals this quality....

i am slowly not worrying about having race numbers... i know they will just have to figure out a new way within IFCA.... that's all that can be done....

Dont worry Comet, I already have a few tricks up my sleeve ;)

[Julio_Geordio_9]

Not the old 'elephant in my pants trick' again Ryan?

I really don't see how that can help.

Suppose I'd better dust off my driver gloves and race goggles.

Tally ho

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

The what trick? lol

[chilledheat]

not to get too off-topic lol, but i believe its where you turn inside out each trouser pocket, and undo your fly....


...erm...IFCA Race Pro events 2009 coming soon...


LOL!

[PzR_Tak]

not to get too off-topic lol, but i believe its where you turn inside out each trouser pocket, and undo your fly....


...erm...IFCA Race Pro events 2009 coming soon...


LOL!

http://i43.tinypic.com/dlmgk6.jpg

[chilledheat]

hey, just wanted to point out we've now compiled pictures of the cars announced for the game all in one place, which is quite useful. Tracks will be done shortly too! All found at ifcaracing.com, or in particular, the Race Pro (http://ifca.highforum.net/race-pro-f126/) forum section!

[nagge]

Nice work chilled :)

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

You nutter lol!

Cool stuff though, hopefully there will be a photomode or something within the game so we can get 'uniform' shots of all the cars.

[Brako_UK]

If there is'nt a photo mode,i am sure there will be a replay section where people will be able to take still shots from there capture cards and what not.

[chilledheat]

that would suck though. For me to get images i'd have to either take digital pictures or record onto DVD and then take 'printscreen' shots lol

[Diablo_]

I say this alot but imo every game should have a Photomode where you can transfer to USB, save to PC whatever. MS are really annoying in this regard as 1) It means you have to be go through the typical upload to website blah blah blah but more importnatly 2) the images are ugly and compressed due to I'm guessing how much bandwidth and space would be required to store them all.

I thought Gran Turismo 4 showed us the future with it's amazing Photomode and ease of getting those pics or even saving them in the first place (save to Memory Card or USB stick!!) but MS seems to have just ignored it. Shame too. :(

[Brako_UK]

Yes i agree that every game should have a photomode these days what with how great they look and especially on HDTV's.Sadly barely any games have this feature.Although ,saying that its mostly racing games that seem to have them from what i have seen so there might be hope.

[chilledheat]

is there much demand for a Photomode away from racing though? I've never thought, after leaving a trail of dead bodies in my wake, "this is a perfect kodak moment!"

Whereas racing, not only do the cars look beautiful, but you also have the dynamics of the car itself to take pictures of - glowing brake discs for example - and the interaction with the surrounding environment - crashing, curb hopping etc!

Perhaps it might be a case of just not having expectations lol - always seem to go home dissapointed when i hope for something!

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Photomode on racing is the most common.

I dont think Ive ever seen RPG Game's have a photomode, but I've taken a few sweet shots on Halo ;)

But yeah, nothing compared to the 1200 Ive taken on Forza

[AZT_Mad_Monk]

i'll be dissapointed if there is no photomode... because on forza it's so easy to write race reports and analysis and make it look great with good photos. Otherwise i'll have to go and buy a capture card :(

[kalniel]

I think photomode is nice, but old news - there should be full video integration now, so you can watch a replay of a race, picks camera shots, edit together some highlights, adjust things etc. and then have the game automatically upload to you-tube or at least a vault somewhere so you just have to send a link to someone to show off the race.

[chilledheat]

i doubt it will ever get to that stage. Bar the fact that its too niche, the resources the system would require would be insane - to do a good job

As long as they have a replay system for the whole race and decent camera angles (or even a Highlights feature to take the best 5 minutes worth of action), then that will be just fine

[PzR_Tak]

A fileshare system where everything is available on PC and 360 at the same time. That would be sweet.

[SCOLancer]

Most people well i think most people now have hard drives for their xbox's myself have the 120Gb so why not allow proper replays to be stored on there which you can then transfer to your PC to edit as and when you want? i mean you can view videos music and pictures from your PC on your xbox so why not allow it the other way.

[crappucino]

A fileshare system where everything is available on PC and 360 at the same time. That would be sweet.

MSN Video perhaps? aka "Messenger TV". Channels for people to share their game replays (and the ability to do so via the games) has to be the answer.

[PzR_Tak]

MSN Video perhaps? aka "Messenger TV". Channels for people to share their game replays (and the ability to do so via the games) has to be the answer.

Something like the Halo 3 file system would do, as long as the videos were saved in a readable format. (might take a while to upload them though, Halo's were all in game data, rather than renders)

[crappucino]

I was thinking maybe a common framework for all games on 360 and PC seeing as both platforms are Windows Live aware. Say if the Halo3 replays are hosted on dedicated servers it seems like a shame to duplicate infrastructure when there's a possible alternative.

[SCOLancer]

Why not allow evergame into MP4 and with cloud being launched space is no longer a worry. im afraid its upto ms in the end really on what they want with their system

[kalniel]

I was thinking maybe a common framework for all games on 360 and PC seeing as both platforms are Windows Live aware. Say if the Halo3 replays are hosted on dedicated servers it seems like a shame to duplicate infrastructure when there's a possible alternative.

Some games (shadowrun etc.) were mooted to have this, not sure it's yet worked in practise. It'll probably get there one day if MS integrate a better gaming framework in future OSen.

[rodelero]

Shadowrun's PC/360 worked fine... but very few people have it on the PC. Also, controller advantages etc. are a bit of a problem.

[nagge]

I was just glancing through some gameplay videos and noticed that when the race was over and the player went in to the menu and I noticed there was an option to save replay. But there was also an option that read "Save Storage Device", maybe that means like USB-stick? Surely they can't have spelled "change storage device" that terribly wrong? I guess there should be an on if it really meant like a USB stick...

[AZT_Mad_Monk]

ooh... you're right! i wonder...

[nagge]

I'm starting to think it should be read more like "Save: Storage Device", in regards to which storage device one might want the save on. But it's rather open to interpretations don't you think? ;)

[AZT_Mad_Monk]

yeah i do, it's a toughie ;D

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

All games ask for save storage device when trying to save for the first time something new, then it only gives you the option of the XB360 Hard Drive.

I really don't think that you'd be able to save your replay to a USB stick of all things, and then try and open in on PC? 2 Completely different formats surely.

[SCOLancer]

Hey Tak m8 glad the graphics card works well for you hope you get better gaming now on the PC:bravo:

[nagge]

All games ask for save storage device when trying to save for the first time something new, then it only gives you the option of the XB360 Hard Drive.

Well as I said there are two different saving options, just have a look at almost any gameplay video where they go into the game monitor after the race is over and you will see it in the menu.

[PzR_Tak]

Hey Tak m8 glad the graphics card works well for you hope you get better gaming now on the PC:bravo:

Thanks a lot for it. Upped the graphics and Frame Rate on 07, benched Trackmania as well, and on higher settings I've gone from 5FPS to over 25! breathed a new lease of life into it!

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Ah I remember Trackmania - I used to play it a lot and when my 360 got bricked I played it again. Took me 3 days to get a server #1 ;)

It would be nice to hold a Trackmania HLC over at IFCA.....that could work...but I dont think it would be popular enough.

As for Race Pro HLC....well, you can expect the best ;) I run the T10 FM.net HLC so don't expect anything less ;)

[AZT_Backfire]

hang on, what has forza got to do with Race Pro?

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

How do you mean?

There is the correlation that they are both the only Simulation racing games out the Xbox 360, or are you talking about something else?

[AZT_Backfire]

Surely you aren't running the official race pro hlc too? i hope there isnt one in all honesty.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Pffft I have no idea. I hope there is one, but I don't think that Race Pro will have the same online features as Forza 2. Forza has the whole tournaments section of game, and thats where the HLC goes.

I am unsure wether Race Pro will also have this feature, it is just a case of waiting and see.

I will probably run a weekly Hotlap Challenge on various cars and tracks, and use the scoreboards to gauge results. A lot of top teams that are sleeping at the moment are awaiting Race Pro and they will come alive. HLC's are good for team competitions, as well as IFCA racing events.

(What I mean is, not everyone can be online to race, some don't have the time, whereas Hotlapping, you can do in your own time)

[Aizen93]

Pffft I have no idea. I hope there is one, but I don't think that Race Pro will have the same online features as Forza 2. Forza has the whole tournaments section of game, and thats where the HLC goes.

I am unsure wether Race Pro will also have this feature, it is just a case of waiting and see.

I will probably run a weekly Hotlap Challenge on various cars and tracks, and use the scoreboards to gauge results. A lot of top teams that are sleeping at the moment are awaiting Race Pro and they will come alive. HLC's are good for team competitions, as well as IFCA racing events.

(What I mean is, not everyone can be online to race, some don't have the time, whereas Hotlapping, you can do in your own time)

HLC on Race Pro FTW. Can't wait to see what you come up with. I love the HLC's. Good for gettin skills up and rewarding if you can pull off a good lap time close to the top drivers. I am improving alot since i started to run those on Forza.

[AZT_Backfire]

But im not being funny, if this game is going to turn into a forza then they may aswell have called it 'Hotlap Pro'.

Lets face it, this is a racing game, for racers. consistency AND speed. Lets keep it that way.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Alex, it wont turn into forza just because of Hotlaps.

You can race, or you can hotlap, or you can do both :)
There's nothing bad about hotlapping in a racing game.

And BEFORE you go off saying hotlapper's can't race - dont. Just dont say it.
I've seen 1 billion threads like that and in the end the majority of the guys with the #1 times can run top times all day long.

Aizen: Yeah it should be good fun. Good to judge yourself on how your skill is on Race Pro against others in the world. Its always been a good formula, espcially the live leaderboard as you watch the #1 time fall and fall... :P

IFCA Race Pro Racing events and possible HLC FTW

[SCOLancer]

I would love to hot lap with you guys i can race clean and with my heart out but cant tune worth a * lol so i would always lose tuning wins without a doubt throw me some of your tuning in forza to see how i compare that would help me lol

[Aizen93]

I would love to hot lap with you guys i can race clean and with my heart out but cant tune worth a * lol so i would always lose tuning wins without a doubt throw me some of your tuning in forza to see how i compare that would help me lol

hay Lanc m8, head over to www.teamvvv.com and sign up on the forums m8. That's where we hang out most of the time when not on XBL. Look under tournaments in forza and run this weeks HLC, it's a stock Renauld Clio V6 and you can only adjust the tyres pressure on it. If you want some tunes i could hook you up with some really good S class cars.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

LOL - well I don't have much knowledge on tuning and as for Race Pro I beleive it will take some time to get to know how to tune properly. I dont think the crazy setups in Forza will work on Simbin's game ;)

This Thread (http://forums.eu.atari.com/showthread.php?t=88199) shows you how everything is a lot more detailed in Race Pro's tuning menu.

Lancer - download some of Daveyskills' setup's on the FM leaderboards and run them ;)

[Julio_Geordio_9]

That's the beauty of games, you have an option of what you want to do or get out of the game.

I have no problem with hotlappers, racers, drifters or even those strange breed also known as painters :p

Each to their own. If HLC's aren't your thing then so be it. Play the game how you want to play it. Simple as that really.

Personally I think the concept of weekly HLC's are great. I enjoyed them in Forza and I would fully back them in Race Pro as well.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Ah yes, Mr TDR Sabre.

Shame you never really got the chance to get your teeth into IFCA Forza Championships.

Although racing with you online was great - very consistent. And I recall you were once in the top20 overall Time Trials ;)

I hear Race Pro has the possibility of Time Trials....think you'll have to repeat that top20 Julio? ;)

[Aizen93]

Ah yes, Mr TDR Sabre.

Shame you never really got the chance to get your teeth into IFCA Forza Championships.

Although racing with you online was great - very consistent. And I recall you were once in the top20 overall Time Trials ;)

I hear Race Pro has the possibility of Time Trials....think you'll have to repeat that top20 Julio? ;)

I am in a practice lobby with Lanc right now for HLC. You up for it Hell?

[Julio_Geordio_9]

I peaked at 8th overall in the Time Trials, and was getting ready for my 2nd wind at them.

Unfortunately that 2nd wind never came :mefiant:

I had a look at the scoreboards the other day for the 1st time in about 6 months and I was 44th or something. :)

I'll see if I can struggle around the tracks good enough for some TT'ing with this game I'm sure.

Ryan....didn't I have you on msn messenger? Remind me of your addy via pm please mate

[AZT_Backfire]

I wasnt going to say hotlappers couldnt race, because i know full well the majority of them can. But im saying that racing is the sole purpose of this game. I think people should focus more on that rather than hotlapping.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Aizen: Sorry man, I have my hands tied with some IFCA-related things on Forza right now on the JGTC gamertag ;) Have a deadline for paints on 15th Jan.

Julio: Wow I didnt realise you went that high. Yes Cam and Picaso worked through them all in like a week or something silly and destroyed the previous #1
BackOne got the #1 in the end though, took him some time to work at it but he got it ;)

I wonder if we will see these names in Race Pro...only time will tell!!

Oh, and PM coming your way in 5

[PzR_Tak]

I wasnt going to say hotlappers couldnt race, because i know full well the majority of them can. But im saying that racing is the sole purpose of this game. I think people should focus more on that rather than hotlapping.

Why should they? Surely if you pay your money, it's YOUR choice what you do with the game? Racing isn't the sole purpose of the game, as if it were, why is there a time attack mode, and leaderboards?

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Thats true, Tak

But more to the point, IFCA has and always will be about racing. IFCA has specialized in organized online racing for around 3 years now, stretching back to the very first Forza World Championship which used to attract over 100 Forza 1 enthusiasts.

IFCA will bring you the same professional feel and look to the Race Pro events once everyone has settled into the game. But most importantly of all is the race itself ;)

Race hard. Race clean. Have fun!

[Haggis07]

Race hard. Race clean. Have fun!
Indeed,the win is only as good as the race itself :)

[AZT_Backfire]

anyway, the people who are going to play race pro solely to whore off the leaderboards are sad. end of.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

anyway, the people who are going to play race pro solely to whore off the leaderboards are sad. end of.


Thats not a very nice thing to say, Alex.

There are some people who I've met who live in countries with such poor internet connections, that they either hotlap or race with collisions off, because they lag so much.

Sad person for buying the game and hotlapping? Absolutely not.

TDR NAT is one of the greatest guys I've had the pleasure of knowing, and very fast also.

Anyway, it is possible to set top times during a race, im sure it will happen during the early days of Race Pro.

In the early IFCA Endurance series, in R classes, Cam, Chrisupra, KIK0 and his F4H partner would often take #1 - #10 spots on the leaderboard during the actual race. I hope this can be replicated in Race Pro!

[AZT_Backfire]

So, if you cant afford a good internet connection, thats life.

I agree with people hotlapping, sure why not? but if that is all they do then they either severely lack racecraft or are sad and want to hotlap all day.

We'll see what happens but i hope this game does not get its leaderboards absolutely raped by every tom dick and harry in the land.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Well, thats what leaderboards are there for!

I have absolutely no idea who will start challenging with insane laptimes, but I think we shall see a few familiar faces from the Forza world appear on the Race Pro scene!

In some IFCA series, Ive raced with some of the fastest from the Forza world, Daveyskills, skywalker, Ermy, JED, Smokinu, Chilledheat, etc etc I could go on and on.

But A lot of ultra-fast people who dont play Forza have been waiting for a game like this for a long time. It should spike car club activity as Race Pro will be a new and fresh game for all of us to enjoy - any way we want to

I can expect V12 to burst back onto the scene, some of those guys are nuts fast!

[AZT_Backfire]

At least on Race Pro, the setup will be realistic (hopefully). That way, the people who know something about motorsport in RL get rewarded, for once. Also, this should be fresh and im hoping to not see the same names at the top of the leaderboards - as were on forza.

Not a slight on the guys that were fast on forza in any way at all. I would love to see some fresh faces. Obviously the physics of the game will decide who is fast and who isnt. for example. on Forza, I could acheive a top 30 with the right car. on PGR4, I could acheive top 10 with the right car/bike.

Different styles suit different people, lets hope Race Pro is completely fresh and we get some totally different faces at the top. Can't wait!

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Nah you'll see a lot of the same faces, where else would they come from? A racer is a racer.

People said that the PGR top guys wouldn't be able to top Forza because Forza had a tuning element to it, and it was a lot more realistic that PGR....lo and behold the 'PGR guys' just kept getting faster and faster in Forza 2.

We should definately see a mix-up in the scoreboards and it would be great to meet some new faces.

I'm willing to bet some of the old school forza legends come back to the scene to get to the top of the boards ;)

[SCOLancer]

Obviously the physics of the game will decide who is fast and who isnt. for example. on Forza, I could acheive a top 30 with the right car. on PGR4, I could acheive top 10 with the right car/bike.



Emm sorry bud but i really cant help but laugh at that phrase :bravo:

[Rayyy]

Emm sorry bud but i really cant help but laugh at that phrase :bravo:

Why, how is it even funny?

The physics of a game may suit other people better than others, I wouldn't be suprised with the changes just from Forza 1 - Forza 2 turned some drivers from top 10 too top 100 or from top 5000 too top 50

[AZT_Mad_Monk]

and probably the other way around too ray ;D

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Well, in all honestly a lot of FM1 legends were annoyed with how FM2 turned out, and don't play anymore. Its way too easy on FM2 to get a top10. I've acheived top5's in my time - but if the FM2 boards were hit as hard as the FM1 boards, i'd be lucky to hit a top100.

Take for example, A class Nurburgring on FM1. Top 100 seperated by 3-4 seconds.

Hopefully, we shall see some of the old legends dust off their wheel/pad for Race Pro - a FRESH new challenge

[AZT_Backfire]

Emm sorry bud but i really cant help but laugh at that phrase :bravo:

Something funny?

[leahcim35]

Its way too easy on FM2 to get a top10. I've acheived top5's in my time - but if the FM2 boards were hit as hard as the FM1 boards, i'd be lucky to hit a top100.


Yeah, the best lap you can get converges to some minimum, after which no amount of extra skill or effort will make you any faster than that minimum [assuming anyone actually hits it]

Result : the more people that take part and watch and then try to get that lap time, the closer the top few will be to each other, and the further down the list times away from the minimum will fall.

[Julio_Geordio_9]

It'll be good to see some of the big racing names from yesteryear getting back into the swing of things with Race Pro.

[leahcim35]

It'll be good to see some of the big racing names from yesteryear getting back into the swing of things with Race Pro.

You think Sterling Moss and Jackie Stewart will buy it?

[Julio_Geordio_9]

You think Sterling Moss and Jackie Stewart will buy it?

They might do. Let's hope they don't just do hotlapping though as that is just sad.

[leahcim35]

They might do. Let's hope they don't just do hotlapping though as that is just sad.

Yeah, we've done this one haven't we?

If you can lap in times that make it worthwhile joining the clubs and whatever, fair enough.
If you can't then who do you race? There's not much point me racing daveyskills and co....[not even for the reasons that I might want to share a track with a racing driver, they aren't heroes to me, sorry]

Just think if you're in the position where

(a) Friends on xbox live don't play forza / race pro, or if they do they're usually in 100000 or lower average place on a lap, you're in the top 1000 or higher. What's the point racing them?

(b) Your times in the game put you behind all the top racers in clubs and so on, but are much faster than the average player you'll meet in a random online match. Unless you're very lucky. Again what's the point in racing them? Worse, if it's a random match they're probably testing the cars grass cutting ability or the crash physics rather than racing in the first place.

So, give the above where do you race and with whom? I'm open to suggestions...in the meantime, I know racing against myself is worthwhile and I can find a ghost that's as much quicker than I am as I want them to be, whereever the guy happens to live, or whatever he happens to be doing when I want to play...

[AZT_Mad_Monk]

you go to www.raceworldseries.proboards.com and sign up :D not the IFCA obviously :wink2:

that is the essence of tournament racing like the IFCA, RWS and so on... it's all about finding proper competetive and clean racing, it doesn't matter how good you are, so long as you have fun. There's always going to be someone who is on the same skill level as you, and that is what makes tournament racing so fun!

[Diablo_]

I'd rather race a pro that's done it for real and I know rather than some virtual racer who may know all the 'tricks' to getting the fastest time. In fact it would be kind of cool to race the Simbin team especially the lead man as he actually has raced in Championships and the red Viper you see in the game is essentialy a replica of his own.

In fact check out the Atari Live video and you can see the car itself, very nice!

[leahcim35]

it doesn't matter how good you are, so long as you have fun.


Well thank you very much. I'm glad that you've been kind enough to let me know what is fun and what is sad :)

Evidently I can't decide for myself what I think is fun rolleyesa

[PzR_Tak]

Well thank you very much. I'm glad that you've been kind enough to let me know what is fun and what is sad :)

Evidently I can't decide for myself what I think is fun rolleyesa

I think it was Backfire who said what was sad.

[Diablo_]

Well I always determine fun in many ways, for example is it only fun when you're winning? Is it fun when you win by a huge margin?

OR

Do you have fun losing? Do you have fun making it a race rather than just zooming ahead? Do you have fun keeping the pack close and jostling for position? Do you have fun when there's a last gasp sprint for the finish and the last gear change determines whose nose is in front to win?

There's many ways to have fun, the main point for me is that I have fun but also those I am racing with have fun too. If I get too far ahead I'll wait as I like racing and even though myself and the people I race with aren't superfast we do have some amount of laughs and a lot of fun. Stock from showroom are our pick as everyone's car is the same meaning it's down to the driver. I personally can't see the fun in playing by myself but I know plenty do, my position on a scoreboard, nope don't care as it means nothing in the real world.

At the end of a day a games a game and it's designed for fun (normally) and playing with others who share the same interests and play styles as you just makes it even better imo. :)

[nagge]

It's fun as long as the racing is clean and tight, winning is just an added bonus :bravo:

[leahcim35]

It's fun as long as the racing is clean and tight, winning is just an added bonus :bravo:

Yeah, it might be.

For me the phrase "racing game" contains the word game.

Racing means going when you're 8 to a kart track and spending at least a decade and more learning. Playing a game means that, in a few hours I can get with a couple of seconds of the top times. That's a gulf a mile wide between racing and playing a racing game.

Jackie Stewart told the top gear guys that he'd knock 20 seconds off their time....clearly there's something to racing, because if he knocked 20 seconds off my FM2 times I'd be the fastest in the world on some tracks and cars by a huge amount.

Trust me here, if Jackie Stewart did buy the game, I'd race against him whether I lost or not...but he won't, and no one who does buy it will be worth losing against in the same way :)

But I've only really played on one racing game to any degree, and I started that one 2 years too late [and I can't paint for toffee either]

This'll be the first one that I'll probably play a lot and will have from close to day one. Who knows where my times will be and what I'll decide to do.

The point wasn't to get an answer to the question I asked. It was partly rhetorical.

Obviously if I wanted to join a club then I would [albeit I can't fault the guys willingness to find any opportunity to post about it ;) ] but I don't want to join a clan for any other game I play either.

Cod5 clans aren't full of soldiers, and neither will this games be full of racing drivers.

Not wishing to offend anyone but, well, let's not go into details, it's called the generation gap...and it exists for a reason :)

The point was why, amongst other reasons, I might not think racing is somehow the wonderful thing I'm supposed to think it is, compared with, hotlapping or career mode or anything else I might do in the game...because of the experience /I/ have.

Depending on your level and what you want from the game your experience may well be different. Most of the time I've tried online racing in Forza the experience hasn't been fun at all.

That doesn't mean it isn't fun, it means that I can't find the people and circumstances to race with that would make it fun for me [and them] YMMV, but I can tell already just from the couple that have said stuff about "noobs" or stuff being "sad" that I wouldn't want to know...

[AZT_Mad_Monk]

you go to www.raceworldseries.proboards.com and sign up :D not the IFCA obviously :wink2:

this is what's known as a joke leachim...



That is the essence of tournament racing like the IFCA, RWS and so on... it's all about finding proper competetive and clean racing, it doesn't matter how good you are, so long as you have fun. There's always going to be someone who is on the same skill level as you, and that is what makes tournament racing so great!

i can't see anything that 'dictates' your meaning of fun here... it's just showing that we don't create these tournaments just so someone can say
look at me i'm the champion of the RWS or the IFCA, we do it for the enjoyment, and that means we want everybody to enjoy the championship. From the McLarens to the Super-Aguris :D

[AZT_Backfire]

+ 1 monk... :]

[PzR_Tak]

-1 The constant advertising and blatant self-promotion is getting very tedious. If people want to sign up, they will. If they want to HotLap, they will. If they want to drive around the track crashing into every other car, they will.

What I'm saying is the I'm holier than thou, come play with us aspect of some posts really puts ME off being involved, what is it going to do with other people?

[AZT_Mad_Monk]

-1 The constant advertising and blatant self-promotion is getting very tedious.
What I'm saying is the I'm holier than thou, come play with us aspect of some posts really puts ME off being involved,

i've not said anything like that at all. The first bit was just a joke... and clearly only i found it funny... but the second part wasn't self-promotion at all, i was talking about tournament racing as a whole (notice i was talking about the IFCA too in this section) and why i think it can make a game last much longer than just a career mode and multiplayer...

besides Leachim did say 'i'm open to suggestions'

[kalniel]

We are keeping a very close eye on the advertising going on by the way. If it gets too much we will come down on it. Also talking about non-IFCA forums in this thread is in poor taste. You have your own thread for talking about your own series.

[AZT_Mad_Monk]

...the essence of tournament racing like the IFCA, RWS and so on...

i was talking about tournament racing as a whole...

[Julio_Geordio_9]

besides Leachim did say 'i'm open to suggestions'

+1 for the -1 :)

Suggestion - Cut down on the blatant self bumping of your race series thread. I'm sure it'll do fine whatever happens but at the moment it is starting to get uber cringeworthy when seeing yet another AZT post.

[AZT_Mad_Monk]

am i not allowed to have a conversation with my friend in these forums then?

[AZT_Backfire]

A forum is for talking about things, correct me if im wrong?

[kalniel]

A forum is for talking some things.. not anything. This thread is for talking about the IFCA Race Pro series. If you don't have anything to say about that, then don't post here.

[AZT_Backfire]

This particular forum is for talking about Race pro and race pro related things, which is what we are doing in our thread.

[IIChrisPyII]

Depending on your level and what you want from the game your experience may well be different. Most of the time I've tried online racing in Forza the experience hasn't been fun at all.

Same here, I only played online a few times with Forza 2 but got tired of being rammed off the road at every opportunity and then people quitting because they were losing. I would say im a fairly competent console racer and really hoping because of the nature of the game there will be players like me to race with and not a load of kids/bad losers.
I know for a fact I won't be touching Forza online again.

[PzR_Tak]

A forum is for talking about things, correct me if im wrong?

No, a forum is for many different people to put across their points of view about different topics. Not for two people to have a conversation, especially where they obviously know each other, and have an actual forum themselves dedicated to what they are talking about.

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[AZT_Backfire]

Mate, dont get padantic. We were having a conversation, okay. BUT, we were also providing information about our series, thats what the thread is for.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Hi guys!

Please could you co-operate with the idea of this thread and keep discussion to IFCA racing related issues.

This is a thread for IFCA members such as myself, ChilledHeat, (and long lost-Julio ;)) and off-topic mindless Race Pro banter should be kept to the other discussion forums please.

---------------------------



A point I would like to make about the IFCA Car Numbers for the 2009 Racing Season:

The IFCA operates a unique racing number system, implemented back in 2007 and has carried forth now into 2009.

What is an IFCA Racing Number?
An IFCA Racing number is unique to you, the racer and will stick by your side for a 12-month period.

Why do I need an IFCA Racing Number?
Every competitor needs an IFCA racing number for participating in Race Pro & Forza racing series.
With Forza, your number will be drawn onto your car for events.
But whereas fo Race Pro, numbers cannot be drawn on your car - but your number is used for both Forza and Race Pro events.
Your unique IFCA Racing Number will also be used in sign-up threads, result tables, racing reports, and anything else neccessary.

Where can I get an IFCA Racing Number?
CLICK HERE (http://ifca.highforum.net/ifca-car-numbers-f143/car-numbers-for-the-2009-season-t1685.htm) and you will be taken to the thread to choose your unique IFCA Racing Number - this number as mentioned before will stick with you throughout the 2009 racing season in which we will be incorporating the coming Race Pro!

You will have to be quick though ;) Its only 15th January and so far 206 users have registered their own IFCA Racing number. These numbers go from #1 to #999, with the #1, #2 & #3 being reserved for an all-out championship at the end of the year - but thats another story ;)


So, to reserve your IFCA Racing Number for the 2009 season, click HERE (http://ifca.highforum.net/ifca-car-numbers-f143/car-numbers-for-the-2009-season-t1685.htm)


Thanks!


VVV Hellbr1ng3r

[SCOLancer]

We are keeping a very close eye on the advertising going on by the way. If it gets too much we will come down on it. Also talking about non-IFCA forums in this thread is in poor taste. You have your own thread for talking about your own series.

PLS read above post^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Here here may i just say Hellbringer m8 i would like to take part in such events with the IFCA but as far as i can tell it may conflict with a private league im in, is IFCA running on the VVV forums or is it seperate since because when a racing game comes out i make that my main game wether that be forza or grid either way im commited to that game my only worry is because the league im in runs on a sunday after Top Gear of course would there be a clash?

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

IFCA events are seperate from any VVV events you may see.

IFCA events will be advertised on the VVV forums. But, when these events are announced (IFCA ones) then you will see them on the main IFCA Portal forum page here (http://ifca.highforum.net/portal.htm)

There you can see the status of any IFCA Forza & Race Pro events ;)

[leahcim35]

this is what's known as a joke leachim...


Did you miss /my/ smiley? [Although it seems the element of truth it held did trigger a couple of comments from others, and it looks like it may have hit a nerve too :) I don't care that you promote it TBH]


i can't see anything that 'dictates' your meaning of fun here...

Well I did, because the implication from the earlier posts in the thread was that hotlapping was sad...but the intention wasn't to start an argument...although you can see it underlines my point, I'd no more get on in your community than I just did in with you in this thread :)

[AZT_Mad_Monk]

Well I did, because the implication from the earlier posts in the thread was that hotlapping was sad...but the intention wasn't to start an argument...although you can see it underlines my point, I'd no more get on in your community than I just did in with you in this thread :)

i didn't say anything about hotlapping being 'sad' or 'boring', that was nothing to do with me at all... i never try to start an argument, and this certainly wasn't supposed to.

anyway this is all finished with now. let's forget about it and stop ruining the IFCA's thread...

[chilledheat]

wow, its always good to see a thread become popular, but its when its the wrong type of popular thats in 'uh-oh' territory

i've left the chat alone up til recently because people are just conversing and having a good time, but it seems its all gone a bit Pete Tong recently!


So just to reiterate what has been said before, lets keep this thread remotely on topic! ;)

[TRC_GeorgiaDawg]

wow, its always good to see a thread become popular, but its when its the wrong type of popular thats in 'uh-oh' territory

i've left the chat alone up til recently because people are just conversing and having a good time, but it seems its all gone a bit Pete Tong recently!


So just to reiterate what has been said before, lets keep this thread remotely on topic! ;)

Chilled, you over here causing havoc allready?:bravo:

Looking forward to getting into some IFCA action with a real racing game. Those unfamiliar with the IFCA should check it out, they definetely run a first class series.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

GeorgiaDawg!!

Hey my AWD-hating freind! Bet your ecstatic to know that the only AWD car in Race Pro is the stock Production class Audi R8 ;)

Be good to get some old-school clan rivalry going at the IFCA again, this time on a new platform ;)

[AZT_Backfire]

Rest assured, there will be clan rivalry ;)

[TRC_GeorgiaDawg]

GeorgiaDawg!!

Hey my AWD-hating freind! Bet your ecstatic to know that the only AWD car in Race Pro is the stock Production class Audi R8 ;)

Be good to get some old-school clan rivalry going at the IFCA again, this time on a new platform ;)

AWD and Nurburgring should be banned from all racing games.:salut2:

[Julio_Geordio_9]

AWD and Nurburgring should be banned from all racing games.:salut2:

One out of 2 isn't bad :)

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Right....just for you Dawg!

IFCA Race Pro Hotlap Challenge Week 1

Track: Nurburgring
Car: Stock Production Audi R8

Haha :P

[TRC_GeorgiaDawg]

Right....just for you Dawg!

IFCA Race Pro Hotlap Challenge Week 1

Track: Nurburgring
Car: Stock Production Audi R8

Haha :P

Haha, just for me huh....lol...I'm just shocked this week's Forza HLC wasn't the R4 Volvo on the ring.tonguegre

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Hahah, noo noooo I would have got lynched!


But, an idea for a IFCA Race Pro HLC:

Georgia, hopefully we'll see a spike in Car club competition and activity when the new game is out - can you remember the VVV/TRC/D2C Hotlap Challenge at the start of Forza 2?

Well I have been thinking of doing something similar at the IFCA, but with a bit of a twist. Depending on how many car clubs get involved in a Race Pro HLC we could get the clubs to take it in turn to choose a HLC combination, and use the scoreboards to record the weeks progression.

I was going to do this for Forza after HLC7, but could use the idea for Race Pro.


Here's how it could look:

Week 1 - VVV Challenge
Track: Curitiba Oval
Class: Mini Coopers

Week 2 - TRC Challenge
Track: Pau
Class: F3000

Week 3 - V12 Challenge
Track: Laguna Seca
Class: WTCC 07

Week 4 - PzR Challenge
Track: Brands Hatch
Class: GT Pro

etc, etc

Sound good? We could have some racers from all the different clubs help with the event :)

[Julio_Geordio_9]

Looks good.

It is nice to see you keeping busy :)

[AZT_Mad_Monk]

Can't wait for Julio's next generic post...

[Aizen93]

Hahah, noo noooo I would have got lynched!


But, an idea for a IFCA Race Pro HLC:

Georgia, hopefully we'll see a spike in Car club competition and activity when the new game is out - can you remember the VVV/TRC/D2C Hotlap Challenge at the start of Forza 2?

Well I have been thinking of doing something similar at the IFCA, but with a bit of a twist. Depending on how many car clubs get involved in a Race Pro HLC we could get the clubs to take it in turn to choose a HLC combination, and use the scoreboards to record the weeks progression.

I was going to do this for Forza after HLC7, but could use the idea for Race Pro.


Here's how it could look:

Week 1 - VVV Challenge
Track: Curitiba Oval
Class: Mini Coopers

Week 2 - TRC Challenge
Track: Pau
Class: F3000

Week 3 - V12 Challenge
Track: Laguna Seca
Class: WTCC 07

Week 4 - PzR Challenge
Track: Brands Hatch
Class: GT Pro

etc, etc

Sound good? We could have some racers from all the different clubs help with the event :)

Sounds good but imagine you have super quick lap with a car on a certain track, you will need to beat that time before it's recorded on the scoreboards. We need to think of a way to make sure posted lap-times are accurate.

[TRC_GeorgiaDawg]

Hahah, noo noooo I would have got lynched!


But, an idea for a IFCA Race Pro HLC:

Georgia, hopefully we'll see a spike in Car club competition and activity when the new game is out - can you remember the VVV/TRC/D2C Hotlap Challenge at the start of Forza 2?

Well I have been thinking of doing something similar at the IFCA, but with a bit of a twist. Depending on how many car clubs get involved in a Race Pro HLC we could get the clubs to take it in turn to choose a HLC combination, and use the scoreboards to record the weeks progression.

I was going to do this for Forza after HLC7, but could use the idea for Race Pro.


Here's how it could look:

Week 1 - VVV Challenge
Track: Curitiba Oval
Class: Mini Coopers

Week 2 - TRC Challenge
Track: Pau
Class: F3000

Week 3 - V12 Challenge
Track: Laguna Seca
Class: WTCC 07

Week 4 - PzR Challenge
Track: Brands Hatch
Class: GT Pro

etc, etc

Sound good? We could have some racers from all the different clubs help with the event :)

Sounds like a winner to me. The early hotlap challenges on Forza were tons of fun. Makes attacking scoreboards much more rewarding when there's a large group of people attacking at the same time.

[PzR_Tak]

Sounds like a winner to me. The early hotlap challenges on Forza were tons of fun. Makes attacking scoreboards much more rewarding when there's a large group of people attacking at the same time.

Definitely. Whilst the guys on my team may not be the fastest of the fast, we sure as hell put in as much effort as the rest. Race Pro is highly anticipated, and we should be able to get some good turnouts. We are more focused on racing than hotlapping, but whilst Forza's umpteen classes and test track variations truly are a daunting prospect, less classes and less tracks should allow a lot of people to be able to compete better.

Looking forward to it, good idea HB!

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

GeorigaDawg: Yes those early HLC's were fun because everyone was new to the game, and on a very even playing field. Meaning not all the best tunes were made yet, and it was down to who could adapt to the physics, cars & tracks the fastest and best. On that topic wonder if we'll see Picaso come and destroy us all. ;)

Tak: It's good to hear your team is hyped about this game. Our team is just as excited as we are basically exhausted of Forza. Race Pro will be a fresh new thing for all Xbox racers!

So, PzR Challenge week a go then at IFCA? Awesome :)

[PzR_Tak]

Tak: It's good to hear your team is hyped about this game. Our team is just as excited as we are basically exhausted of Forza. Race Pro will be a fresh new thing for all Xbox racers!

So, PzR Challenge week a go then at IFCA? Awesome :)

I believe it might well be!

[TRC_GeorgiaDawg]

GeorigaDawg: Yes those early HLC's were fun because everyone was new to the game, and on a very even playing field. Meaning not all the best tunes were made yet, and it was down to who could adapt to the physics, cars & tracks the fastest and best. On that topic wonder if we'll see Picaso come and destroy us all. ;)



They were fun. Gave me loads of confidence going forward by typically being able to get into the top 30 of those challenges. Only thing that really sucked about them was that we were forced into R4 and the allready AWD Audi due to every other class being infected by dirty AWD glitchers.dark:

But, like I said, much more fun when everyone's going at it. Except for those times when you're getting beat and you're wanting everyone else to stop. Like I was ready for this weeks FM HLC to be over 10 minutes after it started when I was sitting in #1.:p

I'm sure we'll see the return of Picasso for this one. I am a bit on the curious side about how some of the Forza legends game will translate to Race Pro. Surely guys like Picasso will have little problem, but I'm thinking there's going to be a fairly sizeable number of fast Forza guys who are going to struggle.

[chilledheat]

hey georgia, i changed the opening of ifcaracing.com. Wonder if it works for you? I've also moved the non-flash button so it should work 100%

Also, hows the NAT coming along?

[chilledheat]

i wonder what community concensus is regarding organised racing for Race Pro:

1) "Let me play the game for a while, and then organise a series maybe a month or two down the road"
2) "Get them started straight away!"
3) Somewhere in the middle


With over 90 sign ups currently experienced for each of the different IFCA events, should we organise events straight away, or allow a little playing/learning time?

i think its quite hard to decide...either way, i know where the funs gona be, but how soon until that is reached?

Thoughts would be appreciated!

[PerfectStrategy]

i wonder what community concensus is regarding organised racing for Race Pro:

1) "Let me play the game for a while, and then organise a series maybe a month or two down the road"
2) "Get them started straight away!"
3) Somewhere in the middle


With over 90 sign ups currently experienced for each of the different IFCA events, should we organise events straight away, or allow a little playing/learning time?

i think its quite hard to decide...either way, i know where the funs gona be, but how soon until that is reached?

Thoughts would be appreciated!
Well us NA folk won't even have the game for those couple months delay, so you Euros may go ahead and forget about our opinions. We're not needed or wanted in your little clubs anyways. :bravo:

[TRCfactory]

Hahah, noo noooo I would have got lynched!


But, an idea for a IFCA Race Pro HLC:

Georgia, hopefully we'll see a spike in Car club competition and activity when the new game is out - can you remember the VVV/TRC/D2C Hotlap Challenge at the start of Forza 2?

Well I have been thinking of doing something similar at the IFCA, but with a bit of a twist. Depending on how many car clubs get involved in a Race Pro HLC we could get the clubs to take it in turn to choose a HLC combination, and use the scoreboards to record the weeks progression.

I was going to do this for Forza after HLC7, but could use the idea for Race Pro.


Here's how it could look:

Week 1 - VVV Challenge
Track: Curitiba Oval
Class: Mini Coopers

Week 2 - TRC Challenge
Track: Pau
Class: F3000

Week 3 - V12 Challenge
Track: Laguna Seca
Class: WTCC 07

Week 4 - PzR Challenge
Track: Brands Hatch
Class: GT Pro

etc, etc

Sound good? We could have some racers from all the different clubs help with the event :)

Sounds like a great idea Hellbr1ng3r. You need any help, you can contact me, or anyone else in TRC for that matter, on our website. We already have a dedicated RacePro section on our forums, but there isn't much action in there yet:wink2:

Sorry Chilled, I will butt out of this thread now lol.

[chilledheat]

Well us NA folk won't even have the game for those couple months delay, so you Euros may go ahead and forget about our opinions. We're not needed or wanted in your little clubs anyways. :bravo:

Was that month delay - April release - confirmed or is it still a reported rumour from that site? (i forget which) Really hope it isn't for NA's sake - although it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world the amound of times Europe gets screwed over lol ;)

We're not exclusive to anyone - all are welcome. The way it has worked out, about 70% of our competitors are American because our timings for the events try and cater for everyone. I think we currently have representation from:
America
Brazil
Canada
Holland
UK
France
Germany
Sweden
Austrailia
Spain
Puerto Rico
Phillipines
Mexico
Italy
Haiti
Jamaica
Ireland
Hungary
Greece
Austria

So we more than welcome your bunch ;)


Sorry Chilled, I will butt out of this thread now lol.

Don't be daft ;) Its all IFCA Race Pro related so your more than welcome. Hopefully we'll even see you frequent us a little more often :) On a personal note, I just hope the game has Forza 1 steering so i can re-find my mojo! :(

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

I think we should all let a month or so pass before organizing tournaments.

We all need to get to know the game so that we can spot cheats/glitches

FYI: The IFCA does not condole cheaters, any attempts to cheat in any IFCA racing series will result in a ban from racing at the IFCA. It's fun, it's a laugh. It's a game! :)

Once we know the best formula's for series, then we should go ahead. No point rushing into a series as soon as the game comes out - only a fool would do such a thing.

Factory: Yeah man, could always use some help over at the IFCA :) I think some sort of hotlap challenge would be on the scene before a racing series (see above)
TRC is always welcome over there :D

Chilled: We also have South Africa becuase of Eries! :D

[PzR_Tak]

I would say waiting a month or so would be the best idea. The driving model in Race 07 is really good (realistic), and you are going to need a long time to get used to it, as long as Race Pro follows the same general model (By the sound of it, it really does). After a couple of days, I feel most people will be able to get around tracks when driving on their own, but will not be up to a very good standard when driving against other people.

Obviously, I might be wrong, and people might take to the game like a duck to water, but I haven't (in terms of Race 07) and I've played Forza 2 since Day One.

[chilledheat]

yeah, i must stress that we will be aiming to play the game without the driving line - lets get racing to how it should be

So yeah, a recommendation to everyone to not use the line. If you learn to drive without it, at least you won't be left up creek without a paddle. If we have it on, then it won't affect you!

By the looks of it anyway, the line seems to be completely inaccurate in terms of colours - saw a driver in a video who could have easily gone through a section flat out, yet the line was red. Hmmm

i wonder what community concensus is regarding organised racing for Race Pro:

1) "Let me play the game for a while, and then organise a series maybe a month or two down the road"
2) "Get them started straight away!"
3) Somewhere in the middle


Thoughts would be appreciated!

[PzR_Tak]

yeah, i must stress that we will be aiming to play the game without the driving line - lets get racing to how it should be

So yeah, a recommendation to everyone to not use the line. If you learn to drive without it, at least you won't be left up creek without a paddle. If we have it on, then it won't affect you!

By the looks of it anyway, the line seems to be completely inaccurate in terms of colours - saw a driver in a video who could have easily gone through a section flat out, yet the line was red. Hmmm

Just so you know, Race 07 does not feature a driving line, it's only available from GTR-Evolution onwards (Race 07 has it in the options, but it says GTR-Evolution exclusive. What a way to advertise your new game, eh!?!

Chilled, I assume you are also going to force off (if possible) the corner gear indicators as well (literally just advise what gear to be in around a corner)

Also, in terms of the line, it is apparently static, a line that a racing driver would take. I don't know if it factors in which car you are in, but maybe the driver was slower than they should have been, and if at a proper racing speed, having followed the line to the letter, would have had to have braked?

[chilledheat]

it all really depends - we have no idea on the settings or unique features this game has. We can't make an informed decision until the earliest of getting the demo, but even then that will probably only give us an idea because i presume the demo won't allow you to do stuff that would affect what an organised series could do. Its all really quite frustrating lol

i wonder what community concensus is regarding organised racing for Race Pro:

1) "Let me play the game for a while, and then organise a series maybe a month or two down the road"
2) "Get them started straight away!"
3) Somewhere in the middle


Thoughts would be appreciated!

[chilledheat]

whilst we're waiting for the release and such, here is an example of the kind of content we produce for the series:

To view the report and have clickable content, click here! (http://ifca.highforum.net/forza-series-reviews-f154/ifca-specracing-series-5-race-reports-t1976.htm)

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t206/chilledheat86/test_report.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t206/chilledheat86/test_report2.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t206/chilledheat86/test_report3.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t206/chilledheat86/test_report4.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t206/chilledheat86/test_report5.jpg (http://www.ifcaracing.com)

[TRC_GeorgiaDawg]

Sorry for missing your post last week about the site and stuff chilled. First, the site works fine for me now. Think I finally got the right update, so all should be good there. As far as the connection, no change, but moving soon and with it will come a new internet provider, which hopefully will have better equipment that doesn't require too much hair pulling to get it working right.:)

And as always, very impressive write up and content for the race. Especially that graphic that shows 5 incredibly painted TRC cars out of the 8 in the A lobby.;) Hopefully work won't interfere this week and I can make it. Although, the way I'm driving now I'll be lucky to make the C lobby.

[TRCfactory]

Congrats to everyone involved for the great racing. Special mention to TRC Smokinu for taking his first win of the season, and to the rest of TRC who once again made us proud!

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Yeah, series like that always call for some great Car Club action / rivalry.

This is what makes IFCA (www.ifcaracing.com) so competitively great. The top teams and drivers can be spotted across multiple series (http://ifca.highforum.net/ifca-events-f157/) battling it out at their peak. But thats generally the top 1 or 2 rooms, the lower rooms slowly fall off pace...so in the end it works out no matter what your skill level, you'll still have a great race.

Shoould be good to see the great Forza teams such as V12, GSR, VVV, TRC, F4H, EXOR, AMG, GLR, HLR, FTW, TTR & Many others who are already a part of the IFCA, to continue battling and racing when Race Pro graces our Xbox's ;)

[chilledheat]

lets not forgot, we are primarily about the individual though ;) - each championship will also have the Drivers Championship as the prioty championship, we just cater for teams too!

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

And If you think I'm gonna sit here and list every competitor who has acheived a race win, series win, or who is a possible series contender....you can think again ;)

[chilledheat]

i could lol, i have the data, and it seems a bizare enough thing for me to do haha, but i'll pass lol


what sounds better i wonder?

IFCA F300 Series or IFCA WTCC Series? IFCA Production Class Series or IFCA Mini Cooper Series? How about a IFCA Race Pro Challenge Series where the car changes each week!

oh the list is endless!

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

IFCA F3000 Series is a must have, open wheeler's are very much an anticipated thing

IFCA WTCC Series will also attract some heads...we shall have to see how balanced this hard-to-be-hit class is actually before we go rushing into it ;)

IFCA RPWC? - (IFCA Race Pro World Championship) - Kinda like IFCA FWC with Forza? That could prove quite fun and unique - and would include all the classes and tracks from random

IFCA Hellbr1ng3r's Challenge - Where competitors have to successfully complete the highest number of barrell rolls in an open wheeler car over the Corkscrew at Laguna Seca...hehe erm...ok no...

IFCA Survival Challenge - basically this is any race on Pau or Porto ;)

IFCA EXTREEEEEEME GT - Please please please can we race the WTCC Extreme class? :D

[chilledheat]

haha, all sounds good lol

on a serious note, there is one definite series that i will be doing with a format that is nailed, just got to confirm probably 4 more... Oh why can't they let us see what we can actually do with the game!!

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

What do you propose for the definate series? F3000? I know you're uber-hyped about that one.

I can't wait to see what possibilities we have to play with format and structure of the game to create the most unique series thats add's a bit more replay that just the ol' WTCC series...

[chilledheat]

im not stating it in a public lobby - ideas and things i do seem to have a tendency of being...ahem, nicked - and then they don't understand when i kick up a legitamet fuss!

[PzR_Tak]

im not stating it in a public lobby - ideas and things i do seem to have a tendency of being...ahem, nicked - and then they don't understand when i kick up a legitamet fuss!

The problem there is other people can always state that they thought of it first, and you cannot prove otherwise, so secrecy is the best policy.

However, I have to say The IFCA does seem to be where it's at.

[AZT_Mad_Monk]

The problem there is other people can always state that they thought of it first, and you cannot prove otherwise, so secrecy is the best policy.

However, I have to say The IFCA does seem to be where it's at.

I'm not going to lie the IFCA is the most prestigious and probably the best series on Forza Motorsport, and they do have the best drivers. even so, we are going to try and give the IFCA a run for it's money on race pro ;D

[chilledheat]

The problem there is other people can always state that they thought of it first, and you cannot prove otherwise, so secrecy is the best policy.

However, I have to say The IFCA does seem to be where it's at.

Kind words, many thanks. Its not neccessarily ideas per se, but rather the style in which its done - we've already had acts of it in the past where its just been blatant plagarism. One of those things i guess...

I'm not going to lie the IFCA is the most prestigious and probably the best series on Forza Motorsport, and they do have the best drivers. even so, we are going to try and give the IFCA a run for it's money on race pro ;D

All we do is to try and provide a competitive platform, free off all the aspects that turn people off random rooms, that is structured, but most of all, entails fun.

I wish you all the luck in the world, but i wouldn't say you need to give us a run for our money. We don't do anything special i don't think, we just try and make what we do 'do', the best that we can do it. Its all anyone can ask!

[AMG_Moctane]

I joined IFCA last year but, unfortunately was not able to compete due to the scheduling of the events. Being on the US west coast and having work and family responsibilities, I can only race at what for most would be late at night or, in the case of the UK, very early in the morning. Weekends don't work at all.

It probably won't happen but, it sure would be nice to have a IFCA series in RacePro that works for my schedule. I know, that kind of schedule probably wouldn't get enough participation to warrant the time and effort of a running a series but, I can still hope can't I?

Anyway, you guys do a great job and I look forward to seeing what comes out of IFCA in the new Race Pro era!

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Well as for timing, the latest event we run right now is the Spec Series.

This takes place at: 19:00CST / 01:00GMT / 10:00 OZ

Is that still too late or too early for you?

[TRCShadowBoxing]

IFCA!

Wooot!

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Hello there ShadowBoxing! The only man in IFCA with hair longer than mine ;)

Glad to see you made it over to what seems to be the 'official' Race Pro forums? :P

[chilledheat]

I joined IFCA last year but, unfortunately was not able to compete due to the scheduling of the events. Being on the US west coast and having work and family responsibilities, I can only race at what for most would be late at night or, in the case of the UK, very early in the morning. Weekends don't work at all.

It probably won't happen but, it sure would be nice to have a IFCA series in RacePro that works for my schedule. I know, that kind of schedule probably wouldn't get enough participation to warrant the time and effort of a running a series but, I can still hope can't I?

There isn't a particular reason as to the times at which the events are currently held, its just a case of when the series organiser is available to do it. If we had a West coast guy who was seriously contemplating organising a series and had the commitment to make it the best it can be, then there very well may be a 22:00 CST race time

I am from the UK, and running the Spec series is unbelievably tough. It starts 1am for me. Last night was race 2 with 62 people, and i didn't get to bed until 3:50am!

We currently have an American running 2 series (Endurance, Stock Car), a Englishman running 1 seres (JGTC) and a Swede running 1 series (Formula One)


So never say never to later start times, its just all about who hosts them ;)

[AMG_Moctane]

Well as for timing, the latest event we run right now is the Spec Series.

This takes place at: 19:00CST / 01:00GMT / 10:00 OZ

Is that still too late or too early for you?

Its close but, I can't race until I have the kids in bed so, the earliest would be about 21:30 CST / 03:30GMT

There isn't a particular reason as to the times at which the events are currently held, its just a case of when the series organiser is available to do it. If we had a West coast guy who was seriously contemplating organising a series and had the commitment to make it the best it can be, then there very well may be a 22:00 CST race time

I am from the UK, and running the Spec series is unbelievably tough. It starts 1am for me. Last night was race 2 with 62 people, and i didn't get to bed until 3:50am!

We currently have an American running 2 series (Endurance, Stock Car), a Englishman running 1 seres (JGTC) and a Swede running 1 series (Formula One)


So never say never to later start times, its just all about who hosts them ;)

If I wasn't already so schedule-challenged, I'd volunteer to host something myself but, for now, I'll just keep my fingers crossed that someone else will be interested enough to try. Otherwise, I'll have to sell the kids for medical experiments! :nono:

[TRCShadowBoxing]

Hello there ShadowBoxing! The only man in IFCA with hair longer than mine ;)

Glad to see you made it over to what seems to be the 'official' Race Pro forums? :P

Lol:dbz3_2::smoke:
I have been hanging around for awhile now, Atari finally sent me a confirmation email so i can post now. Woot!

:atari:

[chilledheat]

is it demo time already?? *sigh* ;)


Just wanted to give a quick update - our community is starting to chomp at the bit! On a numbers side of thing, already we have already had over 130 different people enter IFCA Forza events - and we're only 2 weeks in! Fully expecting this number to get closer to 200 by mid Feb, and then just explode after that!

Where are youuuuuuu RP?!

[Julio_Geordio_9]

Looks like there'll be some healthy competition in your events.


I'll have to sort my monkeys and parrots out and get across there. Is it just a case of putting your name down for a series......first come first served?

[chilledheat]

Looks like there'll be some healthy competition in your events
Yeah i would say so - which is really good. It not only gives the competitors a mixed bag of talent to compare and compete against, but it also pushes us to keep on top of things, and make it better


I'll have to sort my monkeys and parrots out and get across there. Is it just a case of putting your name down for a series......first come first served?
I guess to an extent. We've never turned anybody away, but for organisational purposes, events are limited to the first 100 people - all on one gamertag for communication. We almost hit the limit with the current Spec series - 92 people. We'll do our best to inform those of what is going on in good time, so no-one that is keen should ever miss out...


...hopefully! ;)

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Wait there's a limit?

I thought there was no cap on how many could enter a series?

Ah well....cmon Race Pro!! :D

[TRCShadowBoxing]

Ounce the game comes out and we get a feel for it.
TRC Smokinu and myself will be looking into running a IFCA series.

[chilledheat]

Well i suppose there doesn't have to be, but then your looking at more dedicated gamertags, alphabetical organising etc - might become a huge hassle organising race nights


Shadow - good to hear, just don't forget the Spec series on FM2 lol - i've shifted it over to you so i can free up myself, hope that hasn't been misdirected!? a conversation perhaps in private ;)

[TRCShadowBoxing]

No Worry's Chilly........

[chilledheat]

ok, well hopefully i'll get my copy tomorrow and we'll see what all the fuss is about! IFCA Race Pro here we come! :D

although, im currently very drunk - still - so im going to have a beast of a hangover today, hope it doesn't carry over to tomoro lol

also, a new freaking IKEA store has opened where i live, so there is now no free parking anywhere. That truly sucks - have to pay 2 quid to leave my car for 10 minutes.......grrrrr!

[nagge]

Well at least you can get some meatballs, right? ;)

[chilledheat]

haha!


im gona be so annoyed tomoro if GAME doesn't have the copies and other stores do - i can't buy it from anywhere else cos i have these crappy xmas vouchers from 2 years back to use up lol - but it does mean i don't have to spend anything on this game, and thats always good when you've just blown a hole in your pocket the night before trying to get somewhere with a random, rather hot South African girl! lol

[TRCShadowBoxing]

Looks like there'll be some healthy competition in your events.


I'll have to sort my monkeys and parrots out and get across there. Is it just a case of putting your name down for a series......first come first served?

Julio,
It would great to have compete in the IFCA, come over and say Hello.
http://www.ifcaracing.com/

[ToneMarley]

haha!


im gona be so annoyed tomoro if GAME doesn't have the copies and other stores do - i can't buy it from anywhere else cos i have these crappy xmas vouchers from 2 years back to use up lol - but it does mean i don't have to spend anything on this game, and thats always good when you've just blown a hole in your pocket the night before trying to get somewhere with a random, rather hot South African girl! lol


Hey CHhilly Willy... I am sure youll be A ok.... I am sooooooooo glad to see you and the IFCA picking up on this game... you can bet your sweet **** Ill be signing up for a series or two for this game..

you guys have always done a fantastic job running the series for Forza.. :)

[wiggywaggywoo]

wow just been reading this forum, been getting a bit heated at times shame. i will check the site out and see wot and when ur running ur racers. remember the 3 abreast racing in the extreme comp chilled. some good racing on this site.

[chilledheat]

Hey CHhilly Willy... I am sure youll be A ok.... I am sooooooooo glad to see you and the IFCA picking up on this game... you can bet your sweet **** Ill be signing up for a series or two for this game..

you guys have always done a fantastic job running the series for Forza.. :)

Thanks man, and it will be a pleasure seeing you return - i've missed the days running with you and wondering why your FWD car is pulling to the right off the line! lol - DAMN FORCEFEEDBACK! lol



wow just been reading this forum, been getting a bit heated at times shame. i will check the site out and see wot and when ur running ur racers. remember the 3 abreast racing in the extreme comp chilled. some good racing on this site.

That was absolutley class! Completely what we're about, and is like that in some series each and every week. SpecRacing for example is an absolute blast!

I don't know if you saw, but WWR MAGiC turbo posted a video of the action! Have a look (http://ifca.highforum.net/misc-f113/the-gaming-extreme-challenge-some-close-racing-t1868.htm)! lol, im laughing watching it back, brilliant!

[chilledheat]

So North America should be getting it today. Some lucky folk from Europe will be too if they can swindle it, but lets hear what all your different opinions are!
http://www.freewebs.com/ifcaracing/2009Season/General/RACE3.png (http://www.ifcaracing.com)
If you frequent the IFCA and are part of our 700 member strong community, then please share your views, comments and experiences with all of us who still have to wait! If you arn't, come on over anyway - all comments appreciated, and just maybe you can see what we're all about when you're there too ;)

Click here (http://ifca.highforum.net/race-pro-f126/race-pro-first-impressions-t2071.htm) to be directed to the thread!

[wiggywaggywoo]

That was absolutley class! Completely what we're about, and is like that in some series each and every week. SpecRacing for example is an absolute blast!

I don't know if you saw, but WWR MAGiC turbo posted a video of the action! Have a look (http://ifca.highforum.net/misc-f113/the-gaming-extreme-challenge-some-close-racing-t1868.htm)! lol, im laughing watching it back, brilliant![/QUOTE]
cheers that's a cool vid. Brings it all back and you going in the pit's because it was getting 2 heated hehe. just watched it never new it was up

[kalniel]

Guys, please keep this RACE pro related only.

[chilledheat]

im trying Kal! lol

Back to the above post - Americans should be knee deep in it now, supposedly the game has been released in Spain too - thankfully...THANKFULLY, i have a day off on Friday, and its straight to Game

So, what are your impressions?! It seems many of our guys are at work and can't pick it up till the end of the day lol - im sure a common problem out there! Anyways, all comments appreciated - follow the link (http://ifca.highforum.net/race-pro-f126/race-pro-first-impressions-t2071.htm)!
http://www.freewebs.com/ifcaracing/2009Season/General/RACE3.png (http://www.ifcaracing.com)

[TRCShadowBoxing]

That was absolutley class! Completely what we're about, and is like that in some series each and every week. SpecRacing for example is an absolute blast!


+1
Check out the current standings in Spec. The competition is Tight! Top to Bottom!

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/Msbeatrixkiddo/IFCA/Championship.png

[chilledheat]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/39/Simbin-studios-logo.png

Whilst the gaming community have been enjoying their latest furor in the simulation racing experience - Race Pro, the IFCA (http://www.ifcaracing.com) has been busy creating communication channels with SimBin, and are pleased with the relationship that has already been established, of which will surely go from strength to strength

As part of our communication, we have managed to setup a Question and Answer session with them of which will hopefully take place in the very near future. As we do the most we can for our community, the doors are now open for you guys to ask questions SimBin related! Got a question about Race Pro? Ask away! Something you'd like to know about PC racing? Shoot! Ever pondered about the future of SimBin and their next projects in the pipeline? Lets hear it!


To ask a question, please click here (http://ifca.highforum.net/race-pro-f126/simbin-q-a-t2099.htm) and read the opening post on the format in which to ask questions!


From the questions supplied, we will be selecting the very best and look forward to the responses given. The great thing about SimBin is that they are very much community driven and have a lot of time for their fans - a rare characteristic in todays modern world!


The deadline to submit queries is 8th March!

[PzR_Slim]

Great work, well done. Just to add that Simbin are really good when it comes to their community so can everybody try and keep this as constructive and sensible as possible. We will get answers to questions if we keep it that way and it will ultimately benefit everyone. :chapeau: