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trouty65
22-12-2008, 21:08
Dont know if youve seen this one . Looking good :)
http://www.virtualr.net/race-pro-new-footage-interview/
http://forums.eu.atari.com/showthread.php?t=87694
I like how he did not jump out and say how accessible the game will be for noobies.
Make me confident the game won't be a watered down version of the pc games.
Comet302
02-01-2009, 01:29
that was a great interview vid... i hope there will be more like that... now i really want a demo!... the wait is making me crazy!!....:nuts:
the wait is making me crazy!!....:nuts:
Well, welcome to the madhouse then :chapeau:
Comet302
02-01-2009, 11:31
sounds good.. count me in... :updown:
Brako_UK
04-01-2009, 15:24
Not sure if any of you chap's have already seen this,but around 1min 10secs,the video shows the gamer actually recieving a warning for cutting corners.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lGCgYxu4KrE&NR=1
chilledheat
04-01-2009, 16:28
yep, have seen it - im sure all these have as well ;) Don't think theres a video we havn't seen! lol
yep, have seen it - im sure all these have as well ;) Don't think theres a video we havn't seen! lol
Yeah, there's not a race pro video readily available that I haven't seen. I've even seen the deleted gametrailers one (It's still available on Youtube)
RossiIRL
04-01-2009, 22:40
Post some links please,I'm using an iPod so please try and stick to YouTube links
Post some links please,I'm using an iPod so please try and stick to YouTube links
I'll link to the best quality vids I can find, if it's youtube or not.
RossiIRL
04-01-2009, 23:07
Thanks for that
Thanks for that
Which videos would you like some links for? Have you searched on youtube on your ipod yourself, there really aren't that many vids?
Just search for: race pro gameplay
RossiIRL
04-01-2009, 23:24
Which videos would you like some links for? Have you searched on youtube on your ipod yourself, there really aren't that many vids?
Ye I'm searching on utube but I can only find 5 or 6,,, I'd like vids of interviews
Ye I'm searching on utube but I can only find 5 or 6,,, I'd like vids of interviews
There's only two as far as I am aware, and they are on gametrailers and spaziogames.it
oooh, found another.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mAlht0bPcb4
perfectnobody
04-01-2009, 23:45
these are old, but might be worth viewing
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Vid's from GC 08 at Leipzig
http://www.vimeo.com/user669046/videos
descent driving by these 2 guys
http://www.vimeo.com/1583287
http://www.vimeo.com/1582772
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Pic's from fan who went to Leipzig
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29712442@N02/page3/
pages 3, 4 and 5
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hands-on reports from the Atari Gamer's Day presentation: (in case you missed it)
http://kotaku.com/5049232/hands-on-race-pro
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/909/909609p1.html
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3169906
Brako_UK
05-01-2009, 11:00
It's a shame there was'nt that many video's that shown gamers with some really good racing skill.Most of the footage i have seen has been people who turn all the aids on and just smash there way through the pack.
Comet302
05-01-2009, 11:54
It's a shame there was'nt that many video's that shown gamers with some really good racing skill.Most of the footage i have seen has been people who turn all the aids on and just smash there way through the pack.
i agree... anyone have anything new out there with some multi-player??... or even with some good drivers??... and not the ones distributed by someone at simbin or atari....
i saw one with a guy racing a BMW at GC08 but the video was poor quality... but he seemed like a good racer, but only doing hot laps....... I guess some people have seen this.. but I didn't until today... u can see it here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=jRt9eOlUvj0)
i guess the wait continues until we get our hands on the demo....:hin:
Don't know if you've seen this before, look at about 9:45 in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc_fnO-dgag
Nothing to exciting, just a very short interview with Henrik Roos.
Comet302
06-01-2009, 02:34
Don't know if you've seen this before, look at about 9:45 in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc_fnO-dgag
Nothing to exciting, just a very short interview with Henrik Roos.
nope.. never saw that before... good find... wish there was more to it... but, little bits here and there, works for me.... :)
New Vids
http://uk.media.xbox360.ign.com/media/142/14254925/vids_1.html
Sounds amazing and looks great, just look at the reflections in the rev counter in the mini time trial, nice :)
And the game seems to be running very smooth...argh, demo better get here soon ;)
Issues with the videos:
1: He's driving with the d-pad, and is so unsmooth it's unreal.
2: The so called Caterham is a Radical.
However, it looks fantastic, Valencia especially. It's a shame the driving was quite so bad.
VVV_Hellbr1ng3r
09-01-2009, 01:22
Cool videos...but...
''Hey!! The line's green!! Accellerate!'' :D
Caterham/RADICAL video is taking place in career mode. There's a caption saying required <1:42, so that's a contract drive.
Brako_UK
09-01-2009, 02:29
Nice to see some new footage,many thank's for posting Tak.
On a side note,i thought the grahics actually looked pretty good indeed,i dont see where the complaints about the graphics are commingfrom.
Many thank's for posting Tak.
No need to thank me. If I didn't post what I'd found here, who would I be able to talk about it with?
Brako_UK
09-01-2009, 02:37
Very true indeed sir.In that case i shall take my thank's back for now and demand you go on the hunt for more fresh vids.
On a positive note,the video's of the chap using the joypad is a good sign for none wheel gamer's,he may not of been the cleanest at steering but atleast you can see it quite managable.
With a better gamer,that steering will be much smoother but i expect we wont see the best footage untill the game is actually released.
Very true indeed sir.In that case i shall take my thank's back for now and demand you go on the hunt for more fresh vids.
Yes, Sir. I aim to please.
(only if someone posts up new vids though!)
Brako_UK
09-01-2009, 02:42
LOL Fabulous.
Let's just hope we start getting some serious official news and vid's in the upcomming week's.
AZT_Mad_Monk
09-01-2009, 10:52
lets just hope we can all drive better than the guy in the video, pretty sure you can corner at more than 40mph in a Fwd Mini ;D
VVV_Hellbr1ng3r
09-01-2009, 10:53
LOL he was rather cautious.
AZT_Mad_Monk
09-01-2009, 10:58
Very true indeed sir.In that case i shall take my thank's back for now and demand you go on the hunt for more fresh vids.
On a positive note,the video's of the chap using the joypad is a good sign for none wheel gamer's,he may not of been the cleanest at steering but atleast you can see it quite managable.
With a better gamer,that steering will be much smoother but i expect we wont see the best footage untill the game is actually released.
i think he was using the D-pad or a keyboard judging by the inconsistency of the steering!
but he wasn't going very fast, believe it or not it's much easier and smoother to drive anything when you're going reasonably fast rather than going at about 40mph
rustymike12
09-01-2009, 14:55
Is it possible that the driver was someone's son or daughter or grandson or granddaughter? Perhaps the driver was handicapped in some way making it difficult to make the smooth turns that some of you must make.
The graphics looked very good, (maybe not good enough for the PS3 fanboys :cry:).
Can't wait for this one. You would think that as close to the release date as we are, that at least one track and a few cars would be ready to release in a demo. Hopefully the cert. process goes smoothly and we can get on with it.
Brako_UK
09-01-2009, 15:39
The way it looked on the video was that the gamer actually knows about how to corner etc and they were just new to the game and with also using a joypad thats what made it look jerky and played by a beginner.
After a while of owning this game we will probably see more videos from this person once they have got used to gearing etc and videos will be a big improvement.
AZT_Mad_Monk
09-01-2009, 16:50
hopefully ;D
seriously what is everyone on about in terms or graphics??? this game looks awesome!
Brako_UK
09-01-2009, 16:53
Yes i mentioned that in another post i think it was,i think they look stunning to be honest.
Yes i mentioned that in another post i think it was,i think they look stunning to be honest.
Yes well I guess people who think GRID has fantastic graphics will find Race Pro a bit dull, despite it just being realistic.
Yes well I guess people who think GRID has fantastic graphics will find Race Pro a bit dull, despite it just being realistic.
Again, it's just a case of people expecting it to be a "GAME" rather than a "SIM". Maybe people don't realise what a simulation is supposed to be anymore. Whenever I see any criticism of Simbin's games on PC it's always "It's a bit samey compared to their last one".
The question I pose is:
What will have changed about driving a {insert car here} since the last time they made a game?
leahcim35
10-01-2009, 06:40
Yes well I guess people who think GRID has fantastic graphics will find Race Pro a bit dull, despite it just being realistic.
Yeah, although imo grid's framerate was poor [some say 30fps, but I think they probably had vsync on and it dropped to 15 at points where it couldn't keep up 30] and it was very blurry to race when you were looking "down the road" even though it looked good when you were watching a replay and focusing more on your car.
The demolition derby race with the tight turns was particularly bad, it was just a blurry mess on the screen.
If Race Pro can do ~60 fps, then, judging by the screenshots and videos I've seen to date, it'll be fine.
GT class: http://www.giantbomb.com/news/exclusive-race-pros-gt-class-unveiled/771/
:bravo:
Brako_UK
10-01-2009, 09:40
Great post Nagge sir,many thank's indeed.
Here something BADNED had posted over at Forzacentral. Last paragraph has some intrigue.
[QUOTE]Nice find! So GiantBomb got the rights to unveil the gt class. Will be also available on the official site in the next 48 hours.
BTW who ever was responsible for the vid should be punished. Two errors there;
1st: Using footage of the GT Sport class Corvette C6 GT2 for promoting the GT Pro class Corvette C6.R
2nd: Using footage of the GT Pro class Aston Martin DBR9 for promoting the GT Club class Aston Martin DBRS9 and also listing the C6.R under the GT Sport class instead of GT Pro
BTW just got the info from an unknown source that the demo can be expected somewhere inbetween the 21st and 31st of January. I can't confirm this so it might not be true.
BTW just got the info from an unknown source that the demo can be expected somewhere inbetween the 21st and 31st of January. I can't confirm this so it might not be true.
Sounds like an educated guess, I'm hoping for 19th to 30th :)
BTW just got the info from an unknown source that the demo can be expected somewhere inbetween the 21st and 31st of January. I can't confirm this so it might not be true.If BADNED said this then believe me this holds a lot more credibility than anyone but Atari saying it. This man must hide under developers' and publishers' desks, the info he has found for us at Forzacentral and pops up with on almost any subject regarding, cars, races, technology etc is seriously scary.
I'm sure he's a young version of Skynet in fact, he's not real. :laugh:
Copperhead_BOB
10-01-2009, 17:11
It takes approx. 1 week for the gold master to be approved by the MS quality assurance team. If everything is proceeding smoothly and MS gives the thumbs up, the final retail disc production will begin. This should take place at least 2 to 3 weeks before the actual street date to allow sufficient time for distribution to the retail stores.
XBox LIVE Marketplace is usually updated on Thursday of the week. So you could expect the Race Pro demo to be available on 22 Jan at the earliest or on 29 Jan at the latest.
In any case, just wait for the official "Race Pro has gone Gold" announcement within the next fortnight. The demo release date should be revealed with the announcement.
XBox LIVE Marketplace is usually updated on Thursday of the week.
No, there is no day of the week that is more likely to be the demo release day, only arcade has fixed updates on Wednesdays. Demos are released any day of the week except for weekends.
No, there is no day of the week that is more likely to be the demo release day, only arcade has fixed updates on Wednesdays. Demos are released any day of the week except for weekends.
Thursday is the day that PSN gets updated, and it only follows on the MS can't release demos until the Thursday if the dev states that they want it released on both formats at the same time. I've seen demos on every day, apart from at weekends.
SimRacer
10-01-2009, 22:48
specialdri It looks if they are using a keyboard for driving on those clips :bravo::bravo:
lets just hope we can all drive better than the guy in the video, pretty sure you can corner at more than 40mph in a Fwd Mini ;D
maxqubit
10-01-2009, 23:32
^^ How can he? It is a 360? ... could be d-pad though
Anyway, i'm not a good racer, but i LOVE simulation (just to toy with them). Race Pro will be a sure buy ... and it will 'all drivingaids off':)
What i liked in the vid is the 'bumps' in the road (not that floating on ice stuff) ... i hope you get some sort of feedback on the controller off those 'bumps' (anyone knows?)
AZT_Mad_Monk
11-01-2009, 00:06
mabye... if you set the ride height to 0.00 ;D
leahcim35
11-01-2009, 07:05
With a better gamer,that steering will be much smoother but i expect we wont see the best footage untill the game is actually released.
If they send me the preview, I will create /free/ HD quality vids driven with a steering wheel for people on the wibblyworldwideweb to enjoy :)
LOL someone said the game looks like it has SNES graphics. Oy! rolleyesa
Brako_UK
11-01-2009, 17:43
Comment's like that only come from fanboy's,a bunch of people who never make any sense to me or to many other's i imagine.
beradd88
11-01-2009, 18:32
Sadly, a lot of people will only buy games that have the most amazing graphics.
I would much rather have more depth than graphics.
I actually think this game has has both great depth and great graphics from what I have seen in high res videos.
Yup, I'd rather they cut down on graphics to up the physics.
Cut down on graphics to add to the number of opponents and physics. ;)
rodelero
11-01-2009, 18:37
Bleh, wrong thread.
leahcim35
12-01-2009, 03:00
LOL someone said the game looks like it has SNES graphics. Oy! rolleyesa
Yeah, there's a lot of detail that those small videos didn't really do it justice.
Plus, obviously there are folk who look at the cars in GT and see nothing else [ironic when you actually want to be inside your own car and have everyone else behind you :)]
I do think, in terms of gameplay videos the best one we've seen so far is this one with the aimcomplex guy at GC08 using the wheel http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jRt9eOlUvj0
As far as graphics go the only thing that annoys me is the constant LOD jitters when a car gets outside of 15 metres from you. That will be very, very distracting. 30FPS also bothers me but I will wait until I play the demo before deciding if it's a deal breaker. After Forza's 60FPS I can't even watch its replays at the slower framerate without wanting to vomit in my eye sockets.
I have a feeling that I've seen this video or at least one very similar, but hey, it's Simbin who uploaded it so I guess it's worth having a look :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PNVm-E2p8M&feature=channel_page
Edit: It's been posted before on youtube :(
stuzster
13-01-2009, 13:33
Anybody slightly worried about the AI in these so called 'gameplay' videos?
I only hope most of these videos are being played by people with a lot of the aids turned on etc cos it looks way too easy to outbrake them and the player seems to gets bumped up the rear when braking a bit too often. Plus they don't seem to alter their line too much when you are side by side, resulting in a little too much shoulder barging around the slower corners...
Brako_UK
13-01-2009, 13:49
AI is never anygood on any racer no matter who makes the games,but in every video i have seen i would put my money on 90% of the vid's shown are on easy mode.And another 90% of the vids with driving aid's switched on.
VVV_Hellbr1ng3r
13-01-2009, 22:42
AI will not be my target, it will be the laptime counter my eyes are on ;)
AI will not be my target, it will be the laptime counter my eyes are on ;)
Hehe, AI is just an obstacle on the course, hopefully the only time I'll see them is on the grid and the rest of the race in the distance through my rear view mirror ;)
VVV_Hellbr1ng3r
13-01-2009, 22:47
OR when you are lapping them :P
OR when you are lapping them :P
Oh no, wont risk getting a scratch on my pristine race car ;)
A hands on from Teamxbox as well as some new vids.
here you go - http://previews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/2183/Race-Pro/p1/
Graphics are the best they've looked. The sound transfer seems off, not sure what the deal is. Overal, why can't anybody take a normal video. They keep switching the camera. There is no cockpit shots. I s it really that tough.
rustymike12
14-01-2009, 10:37
A hands on from Teamxbox as well as some new vids.
here you go - http://previews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/2183/Race-Pro/p1/
Graphics are the best they've looked. The sound transfer seems off, not sure what the deal is. Overal, why can't anybody take a normal video. They keep switching the camera. There is no cockpit shots. I s it really that tough.
Great find Van, I can't be as harsh with my opinion. The Corvette sounds AWESOME. My guess about the camera switching is to show the different views. When doing a review, I think that would be one goal. The cockpit views are few and far between for sure, but overall I am STOKED!:chapeau:
Wow did you hear that DBR9, that thing sounded sooo good. I love the engine sounds in this game and it looks to be running very smooth and the graphics are decent for what's going on especially considering Simbin seem to have noticed most people have said they would take a hit in graphics for more opponents.
Can't wait for this game to come in demo and then the actual release!
Brako_UK
14-01-2009, 11:15
Should be about another week or two yes?,anyway i am pretty certain it's going to be worth all the excitement.
VVV_Hellbr1ng3r
14-01-2009, 12:05
Nice video of that Corvette
And I'd like to say well done to the driver, he can actually drive, and wasn't over cautious or applying the brakes on the exit of a corner :P
Also the fuel counter was definitely counting down, from 50 to 47 from what I saw. Now all I need to see is the Fuel level being customisable.
Brako_UK
14-01-2009, 12:24
Thats probably the best video we have seen so far eh?.Good speed,decent enough cornering and great qaulity picture.Plus that Corvette sounded very good.The quick switch from 2nd-N-3rd is a very nice touch aswell.
beradd88
14-01-2009, 12:50
The corvette sounds so awesome and the graphics look really good.
IIChrisPyII
14-01-2009, 14:24
I like the fact it shows sector times for best laps after the race and yes the corvette sounds awesome.
VVV_Hellbr1ng3r
14-01-2009, 14:29
I can see the wheel being absolutely dominant in this game. Unless you get a Kontrol Freek.
The slight twitches in the guys driving from time to time will defiantely cost him
Brako_UK
14-01-2009, 14:39
Because they have actually given the car's some wieght in this game unlike any other racer's out there,i think online will be so much more peacefull.Yes you will still have people not cornering properly and hitting the side of your car,but atleast in this the car's dont do a 1080 spin right across the field from the slightest touch.
Because they have actually given the car's some wieght in this game unlike any other racer's out there,i think online will be so much more peacefull.Yes you will still have people not cornering properly and hitting the side of your car,but atleast in this the car's dont do a 1080 spin right across the field from the slightest touch.
A little bump 'n rub just like in the real WTCC ;)
Brako_UK
14-01-2009, 14:58
Indeed Nagge,but i can see why people were raging from other racing title's when they got hit.If it was'nt bad enough the driving pyshics were out of whack,the actual wieght of the cars and when brushing someone would spin you like you got took out by a bus.
VVV_Hellbr1ng3r
14-01-2009, 15:03
You dont know that at all.
Forza AI cars didnt budge in races, but tap someone online and they go nuts.
This isnt anything to do with gameplay physics, but connection physics.
Brako_UK
14-01-2009, 15:11
Ah i see,my mistake and i appologise to anyone i offended.
crappucino
14-01-2009, 16:51
A hands on from Teamxbox as well as some new vids.
here you go - http://previews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/2183/Race-Pro/p1/
Graphics are the best they've looked. The sound transfer seems off, not sure what the deal is. Overal, why can't anybody take a normal video. They keep switching the camera. There is no cockpit shots. I s it really that tough.
That's a nice find, it's looking well smooth, just a little bit of slowdown in the corners but nothing significant. The sounds already are sounding much nicer than they are in Evo. As you say it's a shame there isn't much cockpit footage as it would be interesting to see what happens to the frame rates.
VVV_Hellbr1ng3r
14-01-2009, 21:31
Brako, I dont think you offended anyone buddy ;)
Would be nice as nagge said to have some contact during the race, like WTCC and BTCC
That was always the comparison between F1 and Touring Cars.
That was always the comparison between F1 and Touring Cars.
Try telling that to the Ferrari's last season - they were more than happy to rub up Hamilton :p
VVV_Hellbr1ng3r
14-01-2009, 21:58
Wonder how much rubbing we can get away with in the Formula BMW and F3000
Try telling that to the Ferrari's last season - they were more than happy to rub up Hamilton :pThe McLaren seemed to come away the better off though most of the time. :bravo:
perfectnobody
14-01-2009, 22:10
excerpt from preview
Tight relationships between weather conditions and the mechanical functioning of each car also enables Lizard to accurately control mechanical failures not normally seen in console racers, such as engine overheating or brake fade. The upside to the possibility of engine/brake overheating is Lizard’s ability to remedy said problems with user-adjustable radiator opening/brake duct sizes
niccceeeeee.......
The preview mentions dynamic weather.
If I'm not mistaken there is a difference between dynamic, meaning it will change during the race. I was under the impression the game didn't support that.
Did GTR EVO have dynamic weather?
The preview mentions dynamic weather.
If I'm not mistaken there is a difference between dynamic, meaning it will change during the race. I was under the impression the game didn't support that.
How come you were under that impression?
Well if the preview says there's dynamic weather then there's dynamic weather. That's the only fairly reliable info I've read about the weather.
How come you were under that impression?
Well if the preview says there's dynamic weather then there's dynamic weather. That's the only fairly reliable info I've read about the weather.
ive read somewhere that weather isn't dynamic though :hin:
ive read somewhere that weather isn't dynamic though :hin:
Where did you read it? Not that it's that big a deal with dynamic weather, but I still like to know ;)
Cant remember, im sure it was a review but im not quite sure
nagge, it was in the translation of the gamekult preview.
AZT_Mad_Monk
14-01-2009, 23:53
now i'm confused... so is there dynmic weather or not? because it says there is in the teamxbox.com review...
now i'm confused... so is there dynmic weather or not? because it says there is in the teamxbox.com review...
I believe we are all confused. teamxbox says yes, gamekult says no.
team xbox may have an updated version of the game that includes dynamice weather, the version game kult got, slightly older may not have had dynamic weather yet
That's what I've heard, I can't say or remember where I got the info.
Also, I've never seen footage; RACE 07, GTR EVO, with that feature.
It doesn't make or break the game. It just changes the game play. There's a big difference between setting your tires at the beginning of the race. Or making a strategic decision during the race if it starts raining.
Plus it adds atmosphere to see the sun break through the clouds and reflect off the puddles on the tarmac.
That's just my humble opinion.
Brako_UK
15-01-2009, 00:08
For time attack laps it would be a nightmare but i am sure you would be able to select the weather you want for said event.But for something like 1 player career or a community based championship then changing weather would be a great feature.
In 07, the settings for Time Attack are dry, unless you customise the settings, then you can have wet, heavy rain. I'm sure I've seen changeable as well, but maybe not in Time attack.
VVV_Hellbr1ng3r
15-01-2009, 00:13
Weather will not change mid-race
Weather will not change mid-race
TBH i wish it would change during long races. Let's say Dynamic weather is only available for 25+ lap races, anyway i hope for something like that.
Brako_UK
15-01-2009, 00:20
That's no problem,be it a full race in the sun or having it lagging down with rain for an entire race,it's all going to add more greatness to the game.
You know,ever since seeing the last Corvette video and hearing that beast of a machine growl,i really want to try that car.We dont get too many console racer's with each car having there own accurate sound.
Weather will not change mid-race
That's what I thought. But I wonder what Teamxbox meant by dynamic weather.
leahcim35
15-01-2009, 01:01
It doesn't make or break the game. It just changes the game play. There's a big difference between setting your tires at the beginning of the race. Or making a strategic decision during the race if it starts raining.
Perhaps, but it's luck and random not strategy. Is it going to rain or not? In the real world we don't really know...they have lots of stuff trying to tell them in F1, local cows standing up, tea leaves and probably even a satellite or three, but it's really a gamble not a strategy what tyres Lewis picked if it looked like rain, and some he won and some he lost [well, he came 5th and won]
In the real world lots of things might happen down to random luck too, of course, including the weather, that they have to live with. But in the world of computer games, even realistic ones, we don't really want random chance events being the reason you win or lose a race do we? [At least not ones that are designed into the game...if there's a power cut and you get disconnected...]
How would you like your car just to stall on the start line? In the real world we'd feel that some mechanics and engineers might at least add some sense that it wasn't purely random. On the 360 it would be a dice roll for that kind of thing, including the weather [unless they get weather reports from the track locations off the internet :)]
There's the mechanics of games too, if I'm playing the AI and I picked the wrong tyres, I'd just hit restart. If I'm online then surely we'd want the outcome to be based, as far as possible, on the skill of the participants and not on some random rain function?
So imo it would be like the crits in TF2, something that most sane folk racing against each other would disable, and then there'd be just long, long threads about why random weather was good or not, because if a dev adds something like it, even if you can disable it, it's like they're saying races should be run in that way and that's where the debates start :)
VVV_Hellbr1ng3r
15-01-2009, 01:07
TBH i wish it would change during long races. Let's say Dynamic weather is only available for 25+ lap races, anyway i hope for something like that.
I do wish for that too :(
7 laps left...tires are well...and SUDDENLY ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE
...and the heavens open....
haha epic
For the record - GTR Evolution has dynamic weather.
Perhaps, but it's luck and random not strategy. Is it going to rain or not? In the real world we don't really know...they have lots of stuff trying to tell them in F1, local cows standing up, tea leaves and probably even a satellite or three, but it's really a gamble not a strategy what tyres Lewis picked if it looked like rain, and some he won and some he lost [well, he came 5th and won]
In the real world lots of things might happen down to random luck too, of course, including the weather, that they have to live with. But in the world of computer games, even realistic ones, we don't really want random chance events being the reason you win or lose a race do we? [At least not ones that are designed into the game...if there's a power cut and you get disconnected...]
How would you like your car just to stall on the start line? In the real world we'd feel that some mechanics and engineers might at least add some sense that it wasn't purely random. On the 360 it would be a dice roll for that kind of thing, including the weather [unless they get weather reports from the track locations off the internet :)]
There's the mechanics of games too, if I'm playing the AI and I picked the wrong tyres, I'd just hit restart. If I'm online then surely we'd want the outcome to be based, as far as possible, on the skill of the participants and not on some random rain function?
So imo it would be like the crits in TF2, something that most sane folk racing against each other would disable, and then there'd be just long, long threads about why random weather was good or not, because if a dev adds something like it, even if you can disable it, it's like they're saying races should be run in that way and that's where the debates start :)
thanks for straighten me out.
Regarding the dynamic weather content remember he was talking about the features of the Lizard engine. Unfortunately until we have the game or a review copy is sent out then we won't fully know until it's actually shown or told to us.
Weather will not change mid-race
Again, I must ask according to who? The latest preview says dynamic weather, all that's contradicting is supposedly a translated preview dated some weeks back. Please, before anyone else writes this in stone, please come up with a reliable source. Right now it's 50/50 on the matter as I see it.
Edit: I just emailed the Teamxbox journalist who wrote the review and asked if there was in fact dynamic weather, as in it will change during race, I'll post the answer when/if I get it.
VVV_Hellbr1ng3r
15-01-2009, 22:54
nagge, we'll just hold off on that point until I have some evidence...but for now I guess all you have is my word..
Brako, I dont think you offended anyone buddy ;)
Would be nice as nagge said to have some contact during the race, like WTCC and BTCChttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14375143&postcount=16
I've been playing it a lot for preview coverage and the game is extremely aggravating. I'll answer anyone's questions if they'd like.
Here's one thing that disturbed me and almost made me throw my controller through the screen:
I was in the 6th place because of my stupidity and I thought, "well might as well try to see how much damage I can do to another car." So I sped up to 140-145mph on a straightaway and lined up to t-bone a rival's car. My execution was perfect as he was turning he corner at the proper time and I smacked dab right into his passenger door. The results were disappointing though as my car flew in the opposite direction and smashed into a wall where my bumper fell off and smoke came out from my tailpipe and his car received no damage and he stayed on the track following the green line as if I never existed....
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14375143&postcount=16
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This guy has a right to his opinion. I just don't know if I care about it.
VVV_Hellbr1ng3r
16-01-2009, 02:59
Contact as in rubbing...like WTCC cars...not childishly 'lining someone up to be T-Boned'...save that for GTA4 :P
Should it be called Crash Pro? If it was and that happened, I'd be disappointed. I think it's just Simbin's way of saying "Why should the person in front be penalised because somebody decides to fool around? Why not just punish the person fooling around, and let mr nobody carry on his race?"
The quote I posted is an extreme example. Tone it down a few million notches and, sure you'll get rubbing, but I worry you'll also get the dodgem-car effect whereby it's easy enough to just nudge your way around corners. Save that for GT4 as well?
All I want is for Atari to stop being so slack and put out official videos with decent driving (it's inexcusable that the best driving we've seen is shaky-cam footage from a games convention) or, better still, just release the god damned demo already so I can see for myself.
This guy has a right to his opinion. I just don't know if I care about it.He's actually played it so I care more about his opinion than a lot of the hypothetical niceties I've seen on most of the "hardcore" racing sites.
Should it be called Crash Pro? If it was and that happened, I'd be disappointed. I think it's just Simbin's way of saying "Why should the person in front be penalised because somebody decides to fool around? Why not just punish the person fooling around, and let mr nobody carry on his race?"I can understand that point. It'd annoy the **** out of me if I was playing online and that situation above happened to me. It's just when a game strives so hard for realism and then something like that is present it rips you right out of your suspension of disbelief and you realise you're sitting there in your spare room, in your cheetos stained underwear, sitting in your homebuilt Recaro-clad race seat gripping a plastic steering wheel pretending to be Michael Schumacher (and still failing at that). :p
VVV_Hellbr1ng3r
16-01-2009, 07:23
Sure, in every single online racing game you will get people trying to ram you, or driving just plain dirty. It just happens.
It can be avoided though. The 'kick' button, or private lobbies for racing with you and your freinds. Or sanctioned and monitored racing leagues - they can still be dirty but not neccessarily as bad as random online lobbies.
Sure, in every single online racing game you will get people trying to ram you, or driving just plain dirty. It just happens.
It can be avoided though. The 'kick' button, or private lobbies for racing with you and your freinds. Or sanctioned and monitored racing leagues - they can still be dirty but not neccessarily as bad as random online lobbies.
+1
... and after a few weeks or months even the open lobbies become friendly. I've been playing at Forza with no issues for the past months.
I know at least 4 leagues that organise "championships" ranging from the very top (luke, Jed, Flexy) to the very casual.
Hellbringer and Monk are just two leads into this very enjoyable side of "console racing",
... And if you get rammed once or twice, that's racing.
VVV_Hellbr1ng3r
16-01-2009, 22:43
Completely agree Mac, I have harldy ever had a race with no paint scratches on my car :P
Here's a new video montage from gametrailers.
This one got me excited.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44516.html?type=
Copperhead_BOB
17-01-2009, 04:24
The in-game footage released so far doesn't do Race Pro justice, especially with gratuitous shots of car collisions and chase cam views.
I understand that in addition to the hardcore simmers, SimBin and Atari are trying to market Race Pro to the casual gamers as well. However, the latter are already spoiled for choice with the arcade racers on market, such as GRID and Midnight Club LA, which are specifically tailor made for them.
Let's face it, the casual gamers want their racing games to look beautiful with even better looking crashes. They don't really care if the cars turn on a single central axis or if the car physics reads like a shopping checklist - Speed, acceleration, grip and handling. Instead of praise, the end result is just a bunch of adverse comments such as it looks really bad, the damage is really limited, there is no parts tuning or this other game has more cars (but with less realistic handling), etc.
I feel that Race Pro will be much better off by showcasing more of its strengths (eg. realistic cockpit views, car setup, actual real-life race tracks, etc) in the publicity videos than trying to appeal to as many gamers as possible.
Just my 2 cents.
Copperhead_BOB
17-01-2009, 05:01
Here are some of the comments posted on the GameTrailers site for the Race Pro montage video:
"there are better racing games than this ****"
"this looks more suited for a wii title, not an xbox 360 game. it looks decent, but GRID looks and probably plays better. and never mind comparing this to GT5. GT5 would blow this out the water."
"Not everyone cares about graphics, some actually care more for driving physics...and are still playing ancient PC racers because of it."
"pretty cool but it not as good as forza 2 or grid."
The above are the target audience and some of them are strongly biased, even 1 of them threw in a veiled insult for good measure. Race Pro deserves better.
PerfectStrategy
17-01-2009, 05:23
Here are some of the comments posted on the GameTrailers site for the Race Pro montage video:
"there are better racing games than this ****"
"this looks more suited for a wii title, not an xbox 360 game. it looks decent, but GRID looks and probably plays better. and never mind comparing this to GT5. GT5 would blow this out the water."
"Not everyone cares about graphics, some actually care more for driving physics...and are still playing ancient PC racers because of it."
"pretty cool but it not as good as forza 2 or grid."
The above are the target audience and some of them are strongly biased, even 1 of them threw in a veiled insult for good measure. Race Pro deserves better.
That's just how GameTrailers is. They won't change, especially not for Race Pro.
VIPEROSI
17-01-2009, 07:54
Here are some of the comments posted on the GameTrailers site for the Race Pro montage video:
"there are better racing games than this ****"
"this looks more suited for a wii title, not an xbox 360 game. it looks decent, but GRID looks and probably plays better. and never mind comparing this to GT5. GT5 would blow this out the water."
"Not everyone cares about graphics, some actually care more for driving physics...and are still playing ancient PC racers because of it."
"pretty cool but it not as good as forza 2 or grid."
The above are the target audience and some of them are strongly biased, even 1 of them threw in a veiled insult for good measure. Race Pro deserves better.
Lol those kind of comments are very amusing...these people wont know what hits when or if they try race pro.
Forza and gt5 are glorified arcade games, the gt series has never had serious simulation and never will.
Simbin make the best driving experience availabe in any simulation. (iracing is probably the only exception)
TRC_Ermy
17-01-2009, 09:07
Here are some of the comments posted on the GameTrailers site for the Race Pro montage video:
"there are better racing games than this ****"
"this looks more suited for a wii title, not an xbox 360 game. it looks decent, but GRID looks and probably plays better. and never mind comparing this to GT5. GT5 would blow this out the water."
"Not everyone cares about graphics, some actually care more for driving physics...and are still playing ancient PC racers because of it."
"pretty cool but it not as good as forza 2 or grid."
The above are the target audience and some of them are strongly biased, even 1 of them threw in a veiled insult for good measure. Race Pro deserves better.
well, honestly i m happy to see those comments....so we can be almost sure.... we will not see 10 years old players infect this game :D
perfectnobody
17-01-2009, 09:10
That's just how GameTrailers is. They won't change, especially not for Race Pro.
ur right... just leave them to their opinions...
My only problem is people aren't going to buy the game, based upon those Gametrailers comments. If they don't buy it, there won't be another Race (GTR GTL whatever) game on console, and that would be bad. I personally think the crash system is quite clever, from what I've seen, but we really need to get our hands on the game to see exactly what they have done with the damage modelling etc.
The problem seems to be people thinking that this wants to be the next Grid or whatever. There isn't a real life circuit driven race car game on console, let alone any simulations (IMO Forza does a good job though), but that isn't what Simbin and atari have concentrated upon marketing it as. The only thing I wonder is if any PC gamers will buy a 360 just for Race Pro.
I doubt (m)any PC gamers will buy a 360 for Race Pro, not when they have all of SimBin's previous efforts, iRacing, Grand Prix Legends and whatever other sim racers there are out there. Adding on to that is the fact they would have to use the Microsoft wheel or buy the Fanatec, which I'm sure a lot of PC sim gamers would scoff at if they've already lashed out hundreds upon hundreds for a pretend steering wheel already.
Oh, and I think the crash system is kind of stupid from what I've seen. Hurry up with the demo Atari! Hurry up with the damn demo! Hurry up, hurry up, hurry up!
I doubt (m)any PC gamers will buy a 360 for Race Pro, not when they have all of SimBin's previous efforts, iRacing, Grand Prix Legends and whatever other sim racers there are out there.
What makes you think that, i wonder? I am a PC gamer myself, but that doesnt mean that my variety for racing games has to stop there. For simracers on PC it is important that a good wheel is developed for the Xbox. No way i am gonna drive with the MS wireless wheel :D
Brako_UK
17-01-2009, 13:28
A lot of PC gamer's buy console's and it's because of this that sale's will really help Race PRO,i imagine it will be people who played the previous SIMBIN title's that will be the big percentage of buyers for Race PRO
What makes you think that, i wonder? I am a PC gamer myself, but that doesnt mean that my variety for racing games has to stop there. For simracers on PC it is important that a good wheel is developed for the Xbox. No way i am gonna drive with the MS wireless wheel :DI say that because I know that if it were me I would rather spend whatever I'd use on a console, game and wheel on more games for the system I already have - especially considering the game I'd be buying the system for is pretty much already available on the PC. Correct me if I'm wrong but Race Pro is really just a compilation of sorts of what SimBin have done in the past but on their own engine. The same thing with a different lick of paint isn't variety, IMO.
Me, I've never played a SimBin game so I'm glad they're bringing it over, but I have a feeling if I was a PC gamer and had played it all before I wouldn't be anywhere near as interested as I am right now.
You already said the me word. There are more opinions then just yours, no offense.
The reason for me as a pc-gamer to play it is that i don't play on public servers in pc games anymore because of the rammers and only drive in organised racing club events or leagues only.
But if i feel like racing instantly and i dont want to wait on organised events that would be my reason to fire up RACE Pro and get into some action
I also said "I doubt", implying from the outset that it was my opinion and not fact.
If you want to race instantly you're going to have to fork out whatever insane price Fanatec are asking because there's no way you're gonna drive with the MS wireless wheel. So there's one of the barriers I was talking about right away. The more barriers the less likely it is people are going to make a significant outlay for one game. Unless they have a website which is relying on people competing in their own little leagues.
perfectnobody
17-01-2009, 14:24
My only problem is people aren't going to buy the game, based upon those Gametrailers comments. If they don't buy it, there won't be another Race (GTR GTL whatever) game on console, and that would be bad. I personally think the crash system is quite clever, from what I've seen, but we really need to get our hands on the game to see exactly what they have done with the damage modelling etc.
The problem seems to be people thinking that this wants to be the next Grid or whatever. There isn't a real life circuit driven race car game on console, let alone any simulations (IMO Forza does a good job though), but that isn't what Simbin and atari have concentrated upon marketing it as. The only thing I wonder is if any PC gamers will buy a 360 just for Race Pro.
i also have the same fear sometimes, but confident that the die hard Forza fans who are awaiting Forza 3 will try this and be happy with it. it will spread within the Forza forums and it might become a hit. we have to give kudo's to Turn 10 for probably one of the best integrated gaming communities out there.
there might also be a few hardcore PC gamers getting into the mix. remember, serious PC gamers love serious games with mature (or well behaved players) in the mix. if Race Pro filters out those who are not up for some serious racing, we should have a community full of only serious minded people, which would be great.
i understand the fear about the numbers not adding up in terms of sales which might lead to a "Race Proless" future, but i am confident they will make up those numbers. i think a couple hundred thousand units sold is more than enough. all the stats we hear about blockbuster games making upward of 1 mil is sales is good and all, but not all games need to sale that to be successful. on the PC front, race sims sell for way less in price and even sell way less, but they are still around. on console, especially, this gen, we have become obsessed with seeing high numbers since that is the current trend, to believe that a game is successful, when in actual fact, that is not always the case.
i think RP will do a descent amount of sales to keep it afloat. simbim has more plans in the works, and once RP comes out, and the community grows and word gets out to more people interested in serious racing that there is a new sheriff in town, everything will be A OK....:bravo:
at least, i like to think so....
You already said the me word. There are more opinions then just yours, no offense.
The reason for me as a pc-gamer to play it is that i don't play on public servers in pc games anymore because of the rammers and only drive in organised racing club events or leagues only.
But if i feel like racing instantly and i dont want to wait on organised events that would be my reason to fire up RACE Pro and get into some action
Trust me, as long as the games netcode is up to scratch, there will be organised events on Race Pro as well, and i'm sure they will be as competitive as on the PC.
Also, another thing is my PC monitor is 19". My TV is 32". What is going to be more immersive? I can't and wouldn't purchase a 32" PC monitor, and the fact is the game DOES look better on 360 than the PC (That should be the case, btw, using a new engine and all that) I DL and watch all the videos over my LAN on the 360 in HD (1280x720 videos) and I think it looks more real than Forza. That's what I'm looking for.
So what the Frame Rate might hitch once in a while, Forzas does whenever anyone crashes online, but I don't hear anyone complaining about that. Also, Nurburgring has it's occasional pause ( I know there's technical reasons for it).
The game looks solid, is a bit like Ronseal (Does exactly what it says on the tin) and should be a good First Console game.
beradd88
17-01-2009, 14:41
I am sick of people comparing it to GT5. That game does not exist. Only its overpriced demo does. If driving a ford focus is exciting for them then they can have their GT5.
Maybe race pro's graphics look boring to them because they never saw an actual real life race. They only know the eye candy of grid.
If this game does fail and if codemasters go and screw up F1 I might just chuck my 360 out the window and go back to the pc.
another thing to bear in mind is that all these videos are showing the game with ASSISTS , and I wouldnt mind betting to go along with that the damage is scaled down ...
Also the warning system hopefully is turned down , because if I slam into the cpu like we have seen in some of these videos I want to be punished !!lolblue:
I dont think it will sell well TBH , Thats why those of us that get the game need to stick together and form a solid community.
Copperhead_BOB
17-01-2009, 15:49
GT5 is for car collectors and Sunday drivers. The BGM that plays in GT5 Prologue is akin to classy piped in music at a fashion boutique store. GT5 is more like an interactive car brochure for those with expensive tastes than a no holds barred simulation of rubber meets tarmac.
By playing Race Pro, I believe that I will get a better appreciation of what real life race drivers have to go through. It's not just accelerate, brake, drift and admire the glossy paintjob.
And if drifting is considered to be a true racing skill, then Lewis Hamilton would have practised it religiously on all the F1 track corners.
perfectnobody
17-01-2009, 16:06
it may not be a racing skill in terms of fastest from point A to point B wins (with the possible exception of rally racing), but drifting is definitely a true "driving" skill, not easily mastered and requires a lot of practice. it is a different style of driving and has absolutely no use in F1 racing (where the point is to go as fast as possible on a course's racing), but appreciated by others who enjoy the art of sliding a car around a track.
2 entirely different sports that have no basis for comparison.
my 2 cents...
Brako_UK
17-01-2009, 16:52
Indeed drifting does involve a lot of skill,but i dont think they should ever cross the 2 in a single video game that depends on them both to be finished to progress through a career mode.Drifting and circuit racing both belong on there own in games as it just shortens the life span for either people who are strict circuit racing fans only and the same goes for drift fan's.
I appriciate the hard work and skill it takes to keep a car drifting but it goes against everything i love on what makes a car work.So for me,mixing a game with drifting and circuit racing just detroys the game.
VVV_Hellbr1ng3r
18-01-2009, 00:10
Yes, but here's my point on drifting in a racing 'simulator'
Looking at the examples of Forza & Live For Speed, there is a large drift community who play the game just to drift, rather than race.
I have no problem with this, but if these people are using the game to drift and it's proving a challenge, then it shows that the game developers have done a good job with the car physics.
It is actually hard to maintain a nice drift in Forza if you're using the wheel. And by a nice drift I mean a well-weighted one at a constant pace, with a high entry speed and at a significant angle, along the traditional racing line.
Copperhead_BOB
18-01-2009, 02:33
On a side note, IGN AU posted a glowing review of DCS: Black Shark, a no nonsense military helicopter study sim from the makers of LOMAC and IL-2.
http://pc.ign.com/articles/945/945520p1.html
I thought that hardcore simmers here might be interested in flight sims as well.
It is currently available for online purchase. The retail boxed version will hit the streets on March 24th.
leahcim35
18-01-2009, 04:46
I doubt (m)any PC gamers will buy a 360 for Race Pro, not when they have all of SimBin's previous efforts, iRacing, Grand Prix Legends and whatever other sim racers there are out there. Adding on to that is the fact they would have to use the Microsoft wheel or buy the Fanatec, which I'm sure a lot of PC sim gamers would scoff at if they've already lashed out hundreds upon hundreds for a pretend steering wheel already.
Yes, but as I've said before [can't remember if it was here or not] PC gamers typically have keyboard + mouse and that's completely useless for racing games.
Ergo you can't even play a demo on your PC without as you suggest lashing out hundreds and hundreds. Hardly a great business model :)
This is why racing games do well on consoles, by comparison, because, as rubbish as the controller is compared with the best option available, it's actually better across all games than those alternatives would be.
e.g keyboard + mouse is best for FPS, but if a console had k+m it'd be rubbish for driving games. Similarly, a wheel is best for driving games, but obviously useless for shooters and so on.
So consoles have a controller, something that works in most games and is usable, even if it isn't the best option they could have.
That means racing games will probably not even be tried on a PC, let alone purchased and then a wheel bought. [That's even considering that it is only a tiny %age of PCs that have a graphics card good enough to play games in the first place - as opposed to Sony and MS who are giving away their hardware most retail PCs need upgrading to play anything much]
Now of course, obviously you can get a wheel and so on for the PC and spend as much as you like building a racing platform, but that's really after the fact. Someone who does that is in a tiny market compared with "owns a console and has played a racing game or 3 on it"
I've never been sold on any PC driving game simply because I can't try them, so why would I go to all the expense first just to see? I've got steam, I've seen simbin's game on there, I'm always downloading demos and buying cheap games on steam. But gtr evo could be the best driving game ever written, yet I've barely got out the pits on the demo with the keyboard+mouse before hitting esc and quitting the game. I'll never know and as a result, I'm unlikely to spend £150 on a wheel first.
Whereas with the 360 I played Grid demo and PGR 3 and 4 demos and FM 2 demo all with the controller...got into playing one and then bought a wheel [which as you can see, a huge number of console players don't even bother with anyway they are happy using the controller] and for me that's enough.
I've driven for 25 years, the great thing about driving is the physics that happens to the driver, and you need a platform costing thousands to get that, the G25 or whatever doesn't really do anything for the extra money [it might be more robust, it might be made of better materials, and, yes it's got a clutch and stick shift, but it doesn't really do anything thing that matters with respect to making driving in a game more exciting than it is with a cheaper FF wheel, at least from my pov. YMMV]
So the MS wheel is good enough tm and as I say, for a lot of folk they don't even want that. But they aren't going to use a keyboard [although some do in grid] or mouse.
So I can imagine lots of PC gamers that own a 360 or PS3 will be exactly the same, they'll be playing k+m on their PC and driving, if at all, on the console, simply because it's easy and cheap to try out driving games on the console.
So consoles have a controller, something that works in most games and is usable, even if it isn't the best option they could have.$30 for a controller that is identical to the one on Xbox 360 and will work on your PC or $300 for a console to play the game on.
So I can imagine lots of PC gamers that own a 360 or PS3 will be exactly the same, they'll be playing k+m on their PC and driving, if at all, on the console, simply because it's easy and cheap to try out driving games on the console.The original question I was replying to was whether PC owners would go out and buy a 360 solely for Race Pro. Your situation is different in that you already own a 360. I still doubt a lot of PC gamers (read: those who have a PC capable of playing current games, of which would include SimBin's games) will go out and spend all that money for one single game, which is similar to what they can already play on the PC.
VIPEROSI
18-01-2009, 05:32
Well bugvbi i might provide some kind of answer to your question.
Because Race Pro provided the motivation for me (a hardcore PC sim racer) to purchase the xbox. There are other titles that i will enjoy, like farcry 2 and mirrors edge which came bundled with it but the main reason was in anticipation of race pro.
I own GTR, GT Legends and have i have tried conversions of GTR2 and race 07 on rfactor so i would say i am a devoted fan on simbin.
I will be greatly dissapointed if this turns out to be a arcadish game which is unlikely. But simbin have been slipping with many of the people who originally formed the company and created gtr and gtr 2 having left to form blimey games. But i still expect the main principles of simbin games to be in race pro.
I race in leagues for rfactor, and previously in live for speed.
The reason i purchased a xbox 360 for race pro is because of a few things. My pc is now too old to run the latest pc products, the xbox 360 will now fill the role of a dvd player as well. I can invite friends over and play immediately with them and its a much more social thing then using a pc.
When the cash becomes available i will purchase a new pc, because i will always enjoy simulations like rfactor.
I have a Logitech G25 which i would love to use on the xbox but currently it isnt supported and probably wont be since logitech has been thrashing microsoft products for a while now so its only use will be on the pc.
I actually intend to give race pro a go using just the thumb stick and triggers for brake and acceleration. If i can be competitive i will stick to using the game pad because i have no intention of buying a average wheel for the console if it isnt necessary.
Currently i havnt worked out a internet connection for the xbox but i am likely to also do that purely to get online with race pro if its simulation is up to scratch.
leahcim35
18-01-2009, 05:40
$30 for a controller that is identical to the one on Xbox 360 and will work on your PC or $300 for a console to play the game on.
Perhaps, but that is not what you initially said is it? You said that a PC owner wouldn't be interested because of this great set up he has or at least the potential for one.
Even so, $30, is a lot to spend to just casually try out a game and thus get to the point where you're like us perhaps and actually anticipating the next game and have accumulated hours and hours in similar games.
The original question I was replying to was whether PC owners would go out and buy a 360 solely for Race Pro. Your situation is different in that you already own a 360.
Not really. I've owned a PC in one form or another before John Carmack invented FPS. I obviously bought a 360 at some point during that time. At that point I bought it, I already owned a PC and, obviously I bought the 360 to play a game on, even if it wasn't this particular game or only one game.
Why did I? It doesn't really matter, except that just note that everyone who /can/ post has a PC, and if they're posting here or anywhere where people talk about PS3 or 360, they most likely have a console too.
That's enough people to see that it happens, so if you wondering whether PC owners would by a console to play a game on, the answer is obviously yes, they did :)
For this particular game, well we don't know, but I haven't seen any sound reasons why not.
AZT_Mad_Monk
18-01-2009, 09:58
look. I would like to be a PC gamer and use RFactor and LFS and GTR EVO, but my computer sucks... so i can't and i don't want to spend $700 every year to upgrade it enough to keep up... and this is what the console is for. Everyone has the same kit, everyone is on a level playing field and you only have to spend money on it (besides games and wear and tear) about every 4 or 5 years when the next one comes out. That is why Race Pro has attractede me so much, because it's an incredible PC game that everybody is in reasonable reach of being able to play, and that means it will probably sell more than the PC versions and it means that we can all have more players in the lobbies and better racing for everyone on a level playing field!
Brako_UK
18-01-2009, 11:29
Yes, but here's my point on drifting in a racing 'simulator'
Looking at the examples of Forza & Live For Speed, there is a large drift community who play the game just to drift, rather than race.
I have no problem with this, but if these people are using the game to drift and it's proving a challenge, then it shows that the game developers have done a good job with the car physics.
Yes i can see what you mean by that and i agree to a certain amount,but another thing that proves Forza was never the strict sim(never played Live for Speed),was that someone could set up a car to drift whilst using racing tires and drift for aslong as they want without having to worry that the tire's would tear apart.
Crikey!,Forza 2 had those magic tires where you could turn a rwd car into a 4wd car.
I will be greatly dissapointed if this turns out to be a arcadish game which is unlikely. But simbin have been slipping with many of the people who originally formed the company and created gtr and gtr 2 having left to form blimey games. But i still expect the main principles of simbin games to be in race pro.
Off topic, but, Blimey! Games went into administration on the 8th of January, and were bought by slightly mad studios, the CEO of which is Ian Bell, the original CEO of Blimey! Games.
http://www.developmag.com/news/31082/Blimey-goes-Slightly-Mad
perfectnobody
18-01-2009, 12:55
Off topic, but, Blimey! Games went into administration on the 8th of January, and were bought by slightly mad studios, the CEO of which is Ian Bell, the original CEO of Blimey! Games.
http://www.developmag.com/news/31082/Blimey-goes-Slightly-Mad
niccceeeeee.....:bravo:
hopefully, we should be seeing some awesome games from them soon.
Yes hopefully, havent seen anything new since november 2006 when they announced the ferrari project. Almost 2 1/2 from then they have changed names and all but we only have seen some screenshots (which looked promission though).. So first see, then believe..
SPEEDEM0N
18-01-2009, 19:25
look. I would like to be a PC gamer and use RFactor and LFS and GTR EVO, but my computer sucks... so i can't and i don't want to spend $700 every year to upgrade it enough to keep up... and this is what the console is for. Everyone has the same kit, everyone is on a level playing field and you only have to spend money on it (besides games and wear and tear) about every 4 or 5 years when the next one comes out. That is why Race Pro has attractede me so much, because it's an incredible PC game that everybody is in reasonable reach of being able to play, and that means it will probably sell more than the PC versions and it means that we can all have more players in the lobbies and better racing for everyone on a level playing field!
I bought a console for the exact same reasons... Harcore Racing sims were still missing but Race pro should change all that. If Race pro has good success, I hope we see a shift towards consoles similar to what happened to FPS games, which were exclusive to PCs & now extremely popular on consoles.
leahcim35
19-01-2009, 04:53
Yes hopefully, havent seen anything new since november 2006 when they announced the ferrari project.
"Ferrari", amazing how seeing that word instantly explained why they had no money left to write the game :)
perfectnobody
19-01-2009, 23:01
Formula Racing
dont know if you guys saw this from team xbox... i have seen thier other video's, but dont know how this one escaped me... (dont see a link here either)
http://xboxmovies.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/8487/Formula-Racing/
here is the page, with both SD and HD available...
http://games.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/2061/Race-Pro/
wormdude
19-01-2009, 23:14
Formula Racing
dont know if you guys saw this from team xbox... i have seen thier other video's, but dont know how this one escaped me... (dont see a link here either)
http://xboxmovies.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/8487/Formula-Racing/
here is the page, with both SD and HD available...
http://games.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/2061/Race-Pro/
haha, im guessing your enthusia2005 on gamespot? I just read a post there with this identical information, with the same sig too! :P
NickJames
19-01-2009, 23:14
No mate, cheers for these iv never seen these before.
1 thing i have noticed is that the crashing sound isnt right and that is really going to get on my nerves, it sounds like someone eating crips !!!!!
haha, im guessing your enthusia2005 on gamespot? I just read a post there with this identical information, with the same sig too! :P
Couldn't you tell from the frantic Fanatec posts? ;)
Oh and I'd already seen the vid :(
perfectnobody
19-01-2009, 23:18
haha, im guessing your enthusia2005 on gamespot? I just read a post there with this identical information, with the same sig too! :P
yup...
there is also a Audi R8 video in there i hadn't noticed...
wormdude
19-01-2009, 23:22
the thing about this set of 3 ingame videos on teamxbox is that the corvette one makes me so so excited for race pro, the formula BMW makes me excited but also worried at the crashing noises and shadows and the audi video just doesnt look all that good. Dont get me wrong i cannot wait for race pro, but some videos disconcert me a bit whilst others look absolutely fab.
NickJames
19-01-2009, 23:25
Ill agree with that, But iv noticed that as the game gets closer the video's are getting better in footage and qaulity !!!!!
VIPEROSI
20-01-2009, 02:12
Im in the same boat as you wormdude...some videos excite me but others really worry me.
It doesnt help that every single video is of a very poor driver running into everything and obviously using a automatic gearbox with a bunch of aids turned on.
Some of the sounds havnt really impressed me but it could be due to the amount of aids interfering with a smooth driving experience and everyone using the auto gearbox wildly shifting from acceleration to braking.
From my experience in the gtr series Gt Legends and the race07 series simbin immerse you with the sound better then any other developer so hearing these videos is a bit concerning at times.
Just have to keep from judging it untill its out i guess.
One video that impressed me was this one:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=jRt9eOlUvj0&feature=related
Its the only video ive seen of a pro driver at work and this is one of those videos that help alleviate some concerns.
The driver is still using driver aids but is also a decent steerer, would have been better to have seen a vid without any aids but its the best vid ive seen so far.
leahcim35
20-01-2009, 03:55
the thing about this set of 3 ingame videos on teamxbox is that the corvette one makes me so so excited for race pro, the formula BMW makes me excited but also worried at the crashing noises and shadows and the audi video just doesnt look all that good. Dont get me wrong i cannot wait for race pro, but some videos disconcert me a bit whilst others look absolutely fab.
Yeah, it is a bit of misnomer how many sites have got videos 1280x720 that they've called "HD" Most of them look like they've upscaled 480p.
The same size screenshots suggest the graphics are a lot better than the videos do justice.
It has to be said though that there's a lot of tearing on the R8 vid. Quite possibly this is what they've been doing.
beradd88
20-01-2009, 16:37
sorry if this vid is old but I do not remember seeing this one before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ7xh_oSIp4
rustymike12
20-01-2009, 16:42
sorry if this vid is old but I do not remember seeing this one before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ7xh_oSIp4
Yea,that is one of the earlier ones
it's cool tho mdr1
beradd88
20-01-2009, 16:44
I guess I am so excited to see something new that I am forgetting what is old!!!
rustymike12
20-01-2009, 16:48
I hear ya bro :chapeau:
Brako_UK
20-01-2009, 17:04
Well i am going to be giving this site a break for a while,atleast untill the demo comes out.Take car for now chap's and talk to you all soon.
Well i am going to be giving this site a break for a while,atleast untill the demo comes out.Take car for now chap's and talk to you all soon.
Wish I had your determination :salut2:
Comet302
20-01-2009, 19:46
Well i am going to be giving this site a break for a while,atleast untill the demo comes out.Take car for now chap's and talk to you all soon.
I hear ya Brako... i have been away from here for almost a week... it's so tough to stay away with all the anticipation of the elusive demo!!!..... grrr
I keep checking back here day to day.. but nothing really new has surfaced... :mefiant:
Julio_Geordio_9
23-01-2009, 20:02
Track reveal vid - Porto
http://www.viddler.com/explore/X3F-TV/videos/127/103.329
Don't think I've seen this posted up. Apologies if it already has.
Track reveal vid - Porto
http://www.viddler.com/explore/X3F-TV/videos/127/103.329
Don't think I've seen this posted up. Apologies if it already has.
Good video, ain't seen that before and the track is looking good. Some nice tight sections of track which should make for some close intense racing for position. Your link might be wrong as it sent me to end of the video.
Race Pro - Porto Track Reveal (http://www.viddler.com/explore/X3F-TV/videos/127/)
Comet302
23-01-2009, 20:47
finally something new revealed... woohoo!.... mdr1
AZT_Mad_Monk
23-01-2009, 21:30
looks good, this is my third favourite track on the game after brands and Pau ;D
Very nice ...wish it were higher quality though
Comet302
23-01-2009, 22:01
i can't wait for brands hatch!!!!... oh yea!... #1 on my list!....
challngestradale
23-01-2009, 22:54
Great Video... what i find funny about this is its on some no name website but when you go to the atari site there is nothing... alot fishy S#** going on here
PerfectStrategy
23-01-2009, 23:01
Great Video... what i find funny about this is its on some no name website but when you go to the atari site there is nothing... alot fishy S#** going on here
It is quite often the case that the marketing department will give exclusive info/screens/videos/beta invites to different publications/websites. So that is what they have been doing. This isn't anything peculiar to Race Pro, everybody does it...
Julio_Geordio_9
23-01-2009, 23:42
Great Video... what i find funny about this is its on some no name website but when you go to the atari site there is nothing... alot fishy S#** going on here
lol
I actually found that video via 'Xbox 360 fanboy' site.
official sites always suck.
GRTV - Race Pro Interview (http://www.gamereactor.eu/text.php?id=638&sid=df6a4919f685b802c5687f4244592d24)
VIPEROSI
24-01-2009, 02:18
This is a video of gtr evolution....a single lap of a race at the valencia circuit.
Im posting it because above all it is nothing like the kind of driving being displayed by the arcade racers who have been featured driving race pro.
This is just to give you an idea of what to expect....
http://www.vimeo.com/1588984
Julio_Geordio_9
24-01-2009, 02:24
Im posting it because above all it is nothing like the kind of driving being displayed by the arcade racers who have been featured driving race pro.
The arcade racers?
The arcade racers?
Most of the preview vids so far have been driven really badly.
rustymike12
24-01-2009, 03:12
The arcade racers?
Yea, don't ya know we're surrounded by pros? rolleyesa
VIPEROSI
24-01-2009, 09:35
Yea, don't ya know we're surrounded by pros? rolleyesa
Really hope you know what your going to get with this game in its highest difficulties....
Appologies if this one has been posted before
Track & Car Selection (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAQLeDL76l0)
perfectnobody
25-01-2009, 17:07
pretty old...
but cool
TRC_Ermy
29-01-2009, 05:43
g4tv mini cooper class reveal video:
http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/News-267690.aspx
Nice one Ermy :bravo:tup:
UKOG_Munky
29-01-2009, 11:07
Sa-weeeeeet!
Just came across this X-Play video on the US Xbox Marketplace and it claims to have a sneak peak at Race Pro in it. Haven't watched it myself so dunno what the Race Pro feature might be.
X-Play Weekly 02/04/09 - Episode 5 (160 MSP 234 MB (http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/videos/offers/1ffc6780-0c54-4207-8af0-53fb71daf2ef?partner=RSS)
Someone posted a link to this 3D Motors preview in another thread and wow at the yellow/blue car (Seat? Who cares) at 47 seconds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymJOh0UgUCw#t=0m47s). :lol: Come on. And even they make mention of the fact that "ploughing" into the rear of an AI car doesn't cause them any trouble at all.
I haven't seen this one before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKF-CpnctAg
I haven't seen this one before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKF-CpnctAg
Nor me, nice one...at last a decent long vid...
And some new screens (from the video by the looks of it) http://www.xboxfront.de/screenshots-1787-5516-RACE_Pro.html
RSRCompetizione
07-02-2009, 13:13
And some new screens (from the video by the looks of it) http://www.xboxfront.de/screenshots-1787-5516-RACE_Pro.html
Nice Find it looks good
Someone posted a link to this 3D Motors preview in another thread and wow at the yellow/blue car (Seat? Who cares) at 47 seconds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymJOh0UgUCw#t=0m47s). :lol: Come on. And even they make mention of the fact that "ploughing" into the rear of an AI car doesn't cause them any trouble at all.
I think this is a good review the collision detection looks very :hin: There is something very worrying about the rear shunt at 1:52secs. It looks to have the same handling at GTR evo but the bumper to bumper is very ( I hate to say this!!! ) PGR. Please don't ban me from the forums :wasntme:
It's a preview, big difference from a review actually ;)
collisions worry me, because a little kid can buy this game and use the other AI cars as his brakes offline, comes online and trys it and may end up wiping us out. hope you can change it with the difficulty *prays*
Sorry nagge I'm so ashamed of myself your right. I wish I was as smart as you :reading: I would edit but I want you to look good so I'l leave it LOL
Sorry nagge I'm so ashamed of myself your right. I wish I was as smart as you :reading: I would edit but I want you to look good so I'l leave it LOL
Well thank you sir. :cool:
Trebor901
07-02-2009, 14:00
in that video i want to know why there is 2007 WTCC cars in the same race as 2006 ones.
collisions worry me, because a little kid can buy this game and use the other AI cars as his brakes offline,
They won't be able to, at least, not with damage on. As you can see in the vid, small contacts are ok, but try it any faster and you damage your own car (if it's like the PC games).
They won't be able to, at least, not with damage on. As you can see in the vid, small contacts are ok, but try it any faster and you damage your own car (if it's like the PC games).
(Also a bit like the WTCC itself. CONTACT HAPPENS PEOPLE!)
ToneMarley
07-02-2009, 14:27
I do hope your right Kal... cause from the vids we've been seeing it just looks way to liberal with the collisions.
I know that almost all of my racing time will be spent online in ranked rooms with full damage and lack of assists(except for my hotlapping time) so I am hopeful that people will not be able to drive like I have seen in these vids and win. (I know alot of the vids were done in single player and with assists on and damage possibly off).
One of the worst things in PGR(besides the wall riding) was the way that you could use another car as guard rail...
You can certainly lean on other cars, but as an experiment I did try doing the PGR-like using other cars for braking and corner guidance on GTR:Evo and with damage at 100% it really doesn't work - if your closure speed is anything significant (like a deliberate shunt or you've really misjudged the corner) then I either either broke the car so much I had to limp to the pits, broke the car so much I couldn't continue racing, and sometimes the collision would fire me off the track as well just for good measure (especially in open wheel series - hit someone with your wheel and you get thrown quite violently.. and the wheel falls off :p).
We don't know quite what it'll be like until we see the final version - these kinds of things are definitely part of the tweaking process as they test more.
ToneMarley
07-02-2009, 14:38
nice Kal.... thanks
That PGR stuff just didnt wash well, you know.
Of course, we all wait for the final product to know for sure... but at the end of the day I am sure most of us will not be disappointed.
keep the vids coming in everyone :)
1 week and 4 days left US
1 week 6 days left UK
nice Kal.... thanks
That PGR stuff just didnt wash well, you know.
Of course, we all wait for the final product to know for sure... but at the end of the day I am sure most of us will not be disappointed.
keep the vids coming in everyone :)
1 week and 4 days left US
1 week 6 days left UK
Tone i am pretty sure i am gettin my copy next friday (13th) I went to my trusty games store here and they were pretty sure they would stock on the friday and sell the game the same day. I guess the street date on this game isn't as strict as some games.
If you are racing online, you aren't going to have the other cars going quite so slowly. In Race 07/Evo, the AI when "dumbed down" doesn't drive as fast as it could, giving an uneven view of what the other cars "could" do.
The video I posted of the Monza race was an example of how the AI isn't as good as a human, that has practiced at least, where I managed to pass 7 cars in two laps. That won't happen online.
If you've got all the assists off, the persons involved will at least need to have an understanding how the car they are driving works. If they don't it's the wall, and retirement. Then they've got to keep up with you, and get to a point where they can get inside you.
A small crash in some games (ie 25mph) can end your race in Race 07.
Xboxfront.de will be putting up a new video with a GT Club Gillet Vertigo in the Rain vs Very Hard AI. Should be a good one!
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4849/bilder49129vl4.jpg
Oh that rain looks so good! :bravo:
i wish i never got this interested in this game, before i havent and i havent been bothered about the game, just go and pick it up a few days after release date. now i want this game before
normally i dont watch and videos or read previews or reviews or anything, maybe a trailer and play demo if its there or not, but chances are ill buy it anyway. looking at every single picture, video and review is making me addicted to this game, i dont want to be, i just wanna play it when it gets here, but i cant wait no longer lol.
I really wanna see that video though, looks really nice from that picture, rain awesomeeeee. just thinking of how long i have to wait until i can do that myself in the game kills me.
SPEEDEM0N
09-02-2009, 05:35
The new XBOXFRONT vid is available !
I thinks it's one of the best yet !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BevpOYqu7z8
Enjoy the rain ! :)
jonboy1066
09-02-2009, 07:24
That looks sensational, and better than I imagined. Gettin real hungry for this game now. Thanks for the vid.
The new XBOXFRONT vid is available !
I thinks it's one of the best yet !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BevpOYqu7z8
Enjoy the rain ! :)
Says it's private?! :mefiant:
Haggis07
09-02-2009, 08:35
Says it's private?! :mefiant:
Weird,i watched it an hour ago and it wasnt private.Good vid 2,it was with someone that can actually drive at the controls. :)
TRC_Ermy
09-02-2009, 09:15
same for me, this is a private video :/
oNyX_Roadrunner
09-02-2009, 09:19
The Video will be public after the Lunch again...
is it not shown anywhere else either? :'(
WoHKenny
09-02-2009, 11:46
http://www.xboxfront.de/news-1787-15043-RACE_Pro.html
now you can download...
have fun:-)
WoH Kennymdr1
Edit: Next Video will fallow soon!!! TODAY
Gingecupra
09-02-2009, 12:23
Wow those screen shots in the rain look awesome. Will be great when we get to race in the wet and try to keep all four wheels on the track!!!
Have now found the vid yet though?
Lee.
The Video will be public after the Lunch again...
When do you Germans eat lunch exactly? ;)
Nice vid show the AI as dumb as some said before. Haven't seen one car hit him in the rear before a corner.
racingfan
09-02-2009, 14:17
The rain effects look beautiful from the cockpit view.
I noticed around the 45second mark the car 2 a head got a little out of shape going into the corner, couldn't tell if he got hit up the rear or if he was under braking though.
That rain video looks great - easily the best we've seen yet. Framerate looks rock solid as well.
But my only complaint would be that the Vertigo sounds pretty damn weak in comparison to sounds in GTR Evolution. Not sure why they would of made that change, as the real Vertigo uses a pretty beasty Maserati V8 these days (previously an Alfa V6).
We don't know what kind of settings had been made in regards to the sound, but it did sound kind of weak compared to previous videos/cars shown.
Jimmy a few people have said the Saleen S7 sounds much better in RACE Pro compared to GTR Evo. In fact iirc there is a comparison video on youtube.
^ I'm sure it does sound better given the new engine and all. I was just curious as to why they seem to have swapped the awesome Vertigo engine with one from a milk float in Race Pro. tonguegre Seriously though, I'm not too fussed - just nitpicking to pass the time I guess. :D
beradd88
09-02-2009, 17:01
I haven't seen this one before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKF-CpnctAg
That was a great video. It looked like the AI would lock up their brakes at times and in the one in the one turn it looked like the one car got loose on its own.
Also the one AI car seemed to get a bit sideways when hit on the right side. True that the reaction to contact does not seem to be totally realistic but maybe that was done to protect them from possible player bad driving. As long as the games gives penalties for rough driving I will be very happy with that. No sign though if the AI will spin and crash on its own.
If you are racing online, you aren't going to have the other cars going quite so slowly. In Race 07/Evo, the AI when "dumbed down" doesn't drive as fast as it could, giving an uneven view of what the other cars "could" do.
The video I posted of the Monza race was an example of how the AI isn't as good as a human, that has practiced at least, where I managed to pass 7 cars in two laps. That won't happen online.07.
but how is the AI whe it is at 100%?
I'm sure we can easily agree the sound is miles better than most games that's for sure.
I'm sure we can easily agree the sound is miles better than most games that's for sure.
Absolutely 10sur10
RSRCompetizione
09-02-2009, 17:05
Looks OMG awusummm, but i have just noticed somthing a guy on here posted recently him driving a V12 Lister Storm around Monza in the wet , and it almost looked impossible with very very little traction It was on GTR EVO. Race Pro doesn't look to be that hard in rain Maybe he had TC &STM i dunno . could somone post a link so we could do a compare driving in the rain From GTREVO & RACE PRO
My 2 pence dark:
That was a great video. It looked like the AI would lock up their brakes at times and in the one in the one turn it looked like the one car got loose on its own.
Also the one AI car seemed to get a bit sideways when hit on the right side. True that the reaction to contact does not seem to be totally realistic but maybe that was done to protect them from possible player bad driving. As long as the games gives penalties for rough driving I will be very happy with that. No sign though if the AI will spin and crash on its own.
but how is the AI whe it is at 100%?
When i played this game a few months back I remember an AI car getting a drive through penalty. not sure excatly why but it came up on the screen that (insert driver name) had a drive through penalty and when i looked on the radar a car was miles behind the rest of the pack lol.
beradd88
09-02-2009, 17:14
Nice vid show the AI as dumb as some said before. Haven't seen one car hit him in the rear before a corner.
Remember we do not know how dumb the AI will be. The driver was probably not playing on the full difficulty setting because in the dry weather video you could see that he was using assists. I know the AI will not be as great as racing other humans but we really do not know for sure what it is capable of yet.
beradd88
09-02-2009, 17:15
When i played this game a few months back I remember an AI car getting a drive through penalty. not sure excatly why but it came up on the screen that (insert driver name) had a drive through penalty and when i looked on the radar a car was miles behind the rest of the pack lol.
That is AWESOME! Glad to hear that stuff like that can happen to the AI too.
It's those little details plus the marshalls waving the flags that will make me smile a lot when playing this game. I've always wanted a racing game with flags in it on the console, stops the leaping the track and running wide cheaters from doing well. (I hated PGR4 for this).
IMO enthusia for the PS2 had the best approach, more than 2 wheels off the track/circuit and the lap was black flagged and not recorded. I miss that game. lol
Looks OMG awusummm, but i have just noticed somthing a guy on here posted recently him driving a V12 Lister Storm around Monza in the wet , and it almost looked impossible with very very little traction It was on GTR EVO. Race Pro doesn't look to be that hard in rain Maybe he had TC &STM i dunno . could somone post a link so we could do a compare driving in the rain From GTREVO & RACE PRO
My 2 pence dark:
Hard to compare as there are different settings in RACE 07/EVO (10% rain up to 100% rain--> track flooded)
Looking at the driving and the laptimes the guy did in the RACE Pro video, I would say it is less than 50% rain in RACE07/EVO. So you cannot compare it to the earlier posted video (Lister), which looked to me at 100% rain.
But that is me just guessing, will have to wait untill game is out to be sure ;)
beradd88
09-02-2009, 17:29
In the Race Pro video I am guessing he was using traction control and stability control. He took some turns to fast and being in the wet the car looked to keep itself in the right direction to easily.
stuzster
09-02-2009, 18:06
Well that rain video has me all shivery - thats the best I have seen so far!
sideways-steve33
09-02-2009, 20:02
So if the game looks this good. Why are we still waiting for a demo?
As people have been saying " if it's poor they wouldn't want to release a demo incase it effects sales".
Not if the videos like that are anything to go by.
Watching that clip has really sparked my intrest in the game.
xXJojjeXx
09-02-2009, 22:52
In the Race Pro video I am guessing he was using traction control and stability control. He took some turns to fast and being in the wet the car looked to keep itself in the right direction to easily.
This is what Matthias Brems ( who made the rain video.He was also the driver )
wrote in the XboxFront forum :
So, das neue Video ist gecaptured, jetzt geht's ans schneiden. Morgen gegen Mittag gehts on
Klasse: ClubGT
Strecke: Curitiba
Wetter: Regen
Fahrhilfen: keine
Anzeigen: keine
KI-Level: sehr schwer
Schaden: voll
racingfan
09-02-2009, 23:36
So that was very difficult AI? Either he's pretty good in the wet on the AI is a bit on the easy side. Hard to tell from a video, hopefully it's the former.
So that was very difficult AI? Either he's pretty good in the wet on the AI is a bit on the easy side. Hard to tell from a video, hopefully it's the former.
Well by the vid he did only come 11th.....:) from starting possibly 14th .....its not like he passed all the AI by on the first straight and made it a one car race...
AMG_Moctane
10-02-2009, 00:03
Well by the vid he did only come 11th.....:) from starting possibly 14th .....its not like he passed all the AI by on the first straight and made it a one car race...
Agreed. Although, I thought that he had started last (16th). After banzaiing a few cars in the opening corners, he wasn't able to make another pass. It would make sense for the AI grid to be like a real grid after qualifying, with the 'slow' guys in the back and the harder-to-pass 'fast' guys in the front.
The AI seemed to be just about right to me and it sure did look like fun!
I'm so glad I saw this video as I was getting worried about how the game was going to play. The video looks great and I can't wait to get hold of it now.
I agree with the AI, the driver passed a few cars on the opening few corners, with some contact but after that I don't think he passed any. Seemed very realistic.
Also impressed with some of the AI cars getting out of shape on their own, again making it look and feel more real.
I'm liking the view from the cockpit too!
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