car list ????????

[DAN10]

dose anyone no the cars that are going to be in this game

[PzR_Tak]

Look Here (http://ifca.highforum.net/race-pro-f126/race-pro-confirmed-cars-track-lists-t1435.htm)

i'm also pretty sure that the WTCC '87 is also included (but I can't remember where I read that), and that's an Alfa and a BMW. Good place to look is race-game.org, and look through the Race 07 info, even though it's not Race Pro, the game is heavily based upon that.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

LOL, Tak you beat me to it ;)

[DAN10]

ok thanks

[PzR_Tak]

LOL, Tak you beat me to it ;)

Hopefully, you'll get used to that!

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

hahaha, only on the forums ;)

[PerfectStrategy]

The Race Pro website says there are 350 cars from 48 manufacturers. That's more than Forza 2 launched with. I hope the selection will be about as good, can't wait to see the complete list.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

No no no no, thats a numerical marketing strategy that games use to boost figures.

So they'll list the 8 Seat 07 WTCC cars with their own liveries (each car is the same...just looks different) as 8 seperate cars in their car numbers list.

This is misleading, so actually there is 48 different cars.

Edit - And I also just counted 24 manufacters....

[Diablo_]

350 cars via 48 manufacturers on launch!

[PerfectStrategy]

No no no no, thats a numerical marketing strategy that games use to boost figures.

So they'll list the 8 Seat 07 WTCC cars with their own liveries (each car is the same...just looks different) as 8 seperate cars in their car numbers list.

This is misleading, so actually there is 48 different cars.

Edit - And I also just counted 24 manufacters....
That is more like an outright lie if true. I don't know of other games counting paint jobs as cars? Forza 2 would have infinite cars on this system.

Forza did have a few multiple similar cars. But one Zakspeed Viper GTSR is different from another from Carsport Holland, due to different years/tuning/parts/etc. GRID probably could also claim 400 cars if they counted up all their liveries.

So you think they are lying about the number of manufacturer's too? I don't know how a trick could even be invented to fake that number.

[PzR_Tak]

350 cars via 48 manufacturers on launch!

Luckily I can read French, as I can't get the english version of the site to load. Definitely says 350 cars from 48 manufacturers, but I'm sure that has to be wrong...

Everywhere I've seen a preview they've said things like:

"While the 48 cars won't match what Forza or Gran Turismo provide, you can be sure that Simbin........." (This isn't an exact quote, just to get the genreal gist over)

Like Hellbringer said, I believe it's skins, not actual different cars, but, we shall have to wait and see.

[PzR_Tak]

So you think they are lying about the number of manufacturer's too? I don't know how a trick could even be invented to fake that number.

Team Names?

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Not sure, theres more than 48 team names available on the 48 different models.

Some teams are real, and some liveries are made up.
Dont know why theyve stated this amount of cars and manufacters, but unless a massive secret is around the corner, then I don't beleive a word of it

[PzR_Tak]

I have just had a look at Steam looking at the info for GTR Evolution:

In total 49 Unique cars in 12 classes with over 500 variations
GTR Evolution, with RACE 07, combines the elements of racing with touringcars, GT cars, formula cars and sportscars.

This also includes WTCC extreme and the Nordschleife....

Sounding like Race Pro isn't it?

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

It is Race Pro. GTR Evolution was the GT addon for Race 07 - those 2 games combined was the structure for Race Pro.

[PzR_Tak]

It is Race Pro. GTR Evolution was the GT addon for Race 07 - those 2 games combined was the structure for Race Pro.

Yeah, I was meaning in terms of the cars. 49 models is remarkably close to 48, in terms of the "from 48 manufacturers" quote on the Race Pro site. Why would the first console version (ie. not their native version) have more manufacturers, and cars?

[Brako_UK]

With all the DLC,car's and liveries,it will most probably all add upto this 350 plus,claim.So it will most likely end up to about 60 different car's and hundreds of replica paint job's.

Anyway......I got bored of waiting for this game so its off for another track day for me.

Does anyone think the Ms wheel is worth £60 and worth it in the long run?,just a yes or no will do please.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Try asking HERE (http://forums.eu.atari.com/showthread.php?t=87601)

[leahcim35]

Does anyone think the Ms wheel is worth £60 and worth it in the long run?,just a yes or no will do please.

Yes.

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[PerfectStrategy]

Well if they're going to claim 350 cars, but only deliver 50, then I guess their marketing worked, because I won't buy the game.

[leahcim35]

Well if they're going to claim 350 cars, but only deliver 50, then I guess their marketing worked, because I won't buy the game.

Well, to be fair, their pages for [http://www.race-game.org/race07/game/caterham.htm and so on] for race 07 list what the game has in detail.

It seems likely they are including liveries in the single figure they give, but liveries don't magically appear out of thin air, they have to create them and they seem, in general, to be real ones used in the specific series. It doesn't seem the same as Forza claiming infinite cars [not that you can create an infinite number of different designs, it's a computer after all]

AFAICT they haven't given out the car / track info [in the same way as they do for race 07] and, if the info they give out when the game appears is identical to the format they've used for Race 07 then it'll be honest imo.

It's worth noting that racing games don't actually contain any cars at all :) If a livery doesn't count, why should a 3d mesh or a set of parameters for a physics engine? It's all make believe....moreso if you bought Forza because when it calls something a "<manufacturer> <model>", e.g "a Ford Focus", it certainly isn't.

[Brako_UK]

The really good thing about the car's featured in this game no matter how big or small the qauntity,is that although there will obviously be car's that are faster and will appear in the thousands after each other on the leaderboards,atleast in racepro all the cars for particular leagues will all be very competitive against each other.

Forza can rave all it wants about having hundreds of cars but when there is only at most,2 cars per class that stand a chance then putting the rest in the game is just like the way gran tourismo does things and by that i mean its more of a driving experience with most of the cars rather than cometitive racing.

Forza has around 370+ car's i think but only roughly 20 of them are of any actual use when it comes to racing,but i dont put that down to gamers not being good as each other.Turn 10 seem to gives better stats to cars that they like in real life although i doubt barely any of the team know enough about real car pyshics.

The only person at Turn 10 who ever give's an honest answer is that dan greenwalt chap(possibly spelt his surname wrong),he is the only person there who admitts Forza was made for a mass market and therefore had to be a pick up and play racer which in turn leads to the fact that all those cars have unrealistic pyshics but an enjoyable game for anyone to play.

Racepro might have about 50 car's but that's 50 car's that have been studied properly and therefore time and effort has gone into each individual car's pyshics etc.A lot less car's than Forza?definetly,but Racepro is a sim racer and therefore needs more detail when it comes to cars so i imagine thats why there could be a shorter car range.

[nagge]

Well put Brako :bravo:

[PzR_Tak]

Forza has around 370+ car's i think but only roughly 20 of them are of any actual use when it comes to racing,but i dont put that down to gamers not being good as each other.


Nice post...

In terms of this point, I happen to run a few competitions where the scoreboards are not the focus..... We set specific restrictions and often run the same model of car in the competition, so all the lobby starts from the same place. So in terms of that, all c350 can be used for racing.

Not excusing anything else, just every car can be raced in Forza.

[Brako_UK]

Yes PrZ,most car's in Forza can be competitive against each other but that is only because of dedicated Forza members such as yourself who make this possible.
Where Forza fail's is the fact that it claims to be a pick up and play racer for everyone,but due to the stats on certain car's be they stock or raced tuned,the pick up and play just falls on it’s face due to unrealistic pyshics which it claims to have..

Forza 2 was not a fantastic release game,it’s the Forza community member’s like yourself who made this game stand the test of time with these community arranged events.The actual way car’s can be tuned in Forza not only put’s off the more experienced racing sim fan but also makes it unplayable for the pick up and play gamer who wants to use his favourite tuned car against the likes of the unrealistic 1000+hp Dodge Charger on the nurburgring with stock tires.

The manual of Forza purchased with the game contradicts itself alone when stating the importance of tire’s,if this was done so well in Forza then a 1000hp+ Dodge Charger should not be able to outrun or out handle say a ZO6,due not only to stock tire’s but also weight and braking speeds no matter how well the Charger was tuned.

Forza 2 rewards the gamer who is more skillfull rather than a gamer who can tune and also race to the highest standards of a rival car in the Charger’s class on the nurburgring.Of course players should be awarded for skill,that only make’s sense but when the game claims to be a sim and also a pick up and play racer for anyone,it doe’s this badly and again as I said before,the only reason Forza stood a chance of lasting so long was because of members like yourself who made the game better than it actually is,but for the gamer who cant get involved with community tournaments and was hoping of this so called pick up and play scene,they are then let down by bizarre stats that certain cars appear to have in the game.


As for Racepro’s car quantity,a person on here stated that now they realise the game does not feature 350 cars,that they are now not going to buy it,personally if a game was advertised as being near realistic as possible for its stats and pyshics then I would have high doubts about its so called realism if it did feature that amount of car’s due to the amount of time that would take to develop and in the end a lot of car’s would be lacking due to time scale and therefore ruining its so called sim reputation.

Give me 50 near realistic cars over a racing game that has over 400 made up stat cars any day of the week.

[PzR_Tak]

it unplayable for the pick up and play gamer who wants to use his favourite tuned car against the likes of the unrealistic 1000+hp Dodge Charger on the nurburgring with stock tires.

The manual of Forza purchased with the game contradicts itself alone when stating the importance of tire’s,if this was done so well in Forza then a 1000hp+ Dodge Charger should not be able to outrun or out handle say a ZO6,due not only to stock tire’s but also weight and braking speeds no matter how well the Charger was tuned.

...

Give me 50 near realistic cars over a racing game that has over 400 made up stat cars any day of the week.

10sur10, (But call me Tak!)

Tyres go pop! The stock physics on Forza is terrible as well.

Agreed, I'd want 50 absolutely fantastically modelled cars, with working physics, rather than 350 that all handle similarly.

In terms of community, the site that I am a member of, and run race competitions for, is really looking forward to Race Pro, and I am hopeful to run multiple seasons/classes etc for a long time with it. Looking forward to the first championship race around Brands Hatch. Mini's, here we come!

[Brako_UK]

Yes definetly.compaired to today's motosports,the Mini is laughed upon sue to it's size and hp etc,a lot of people dont realise these fabulous little car's practically ruled the leagues they were used in all those year's ago.

I used to watched my friend race them in stock car events many years back and even though not many of the racer's understood the meaning of "using the Apex" rather than jumping over it,i was stunned at what these car's were capable of.

and like you said,it will be brilliant to finally get these at an accurate spec and race them around Brands Hatch.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Brako your being too closed minded with Forza, theres more to play online than just class races.

Made up stats? Id like to see anyone come up with a dynamic upgrade calculator program. In Forza it was called the P.I.

Thats the most detailed calculator Ive seen yet - its not perfect - but until you can beat it, then dont knock it.

Race Pro is using pre-build cars - so more time can be focused on in-game handling and tuning testing of each car. BUT - dont praise something you havent seen yet. Who knows the #1 tunes could be Max this Min that etc etc

[EVO8drifter21]

they also said that in some games you will have the one or two cars that dominate a single class, but in race pro, just like in real life, all the cars in a class are very very close in terms of performance.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

they also said that in some games you will have the one or two cars that dominate a single class, but in race pro, just like in real life, all the cars in a class are very very close in terms of performance.


Nah, I think people will always look at scoreboards and only use the #1 car...

Race07 boards weren't full of diversity

[EVO8drifter21]

true, i do think that people will do that, but you just never reallly know until the game is out.

[PzR_Tak]

I reckon in the Mini class, the scoreboard car might be a Mini.......

[nagge]

I reckon in the Mini class, the scoreboard car might be a Mini.......

A bit early for predictions don't you think? ;)

[PzR_Tak]

A bit early for predictions don't you think? ;)

I think that one there is a bit of a given.... weirdblue

[nagge]

I think that one there is a bit of a given.... weirdblue

Hence the ;)

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Shhh SHhhhhhh dont tell everyone!!!

[PzR_Tak]

Shhh SHhhhhhh dont tell everyone!!!

Sorry, I'll remember next time. What do you think about the F3000 class, what will be the scoreboard car there? How about Formula BMW?

[Diablo_]

No chance, it will be the safety car!

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Pshhh....grid girls easily

[EVO8drifter21]

no, certainly it will be the paddock members...

[PzR_Tak]

hahaha, only on the forums ;)

All I'll say is Curitiba F3000. 2.2 secs

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

You beat me? what place did you get on LB?

[PzR_Tak]

You beat me? what place did you get on LB?

I'm now about 32nd. Not sure I'll check later. You're currently sitting around 60th, apparently those boards were quite new.

Oh, and ABS and Traction control? I'm on a 1:08.6xx, Pro settings.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

oOOOOOOH Alright handbags ;)

FYI id just got the game, first time in an open wheeler, and I aint got a wheel.

And give me a pc that doesnt run at 20fps and Id shave a bit off ;)

[kalniel]

And give me a pc that doesnt run at 20fps and Id shave a bit off ;)

I've got one here that'll struggle to push 10fps if you'd prefer ;)

[PzR_Tak]

oOOOOOOH Alright handbags ;)

FYI id just got the game, first time in an open wheeler, and I aint got a wheel.

And give me a pc that doesnt run at 20fps and Id shave a bit off ;)

I started playing on xmas day. (I'd had it for ages, but had moved house so was looking for my wireless controller connector) with a 360 controller. Oh and my comp doesn't play it very fast either. (that'll be the graphics. See the IFCA thread)

Nice lap though, very smooth.

Hint: put your fuel down to the minimum, as in time attack it doesn't use fuel for some reason, but you get the empty car benefit. Were you using the Simbin initial tune? or Default? I'm not tuning the car very much, waiting for Race Pro for that, but I found taking a click or two off the rear splitter, and one off the front increased the cars accel enough to be worth it. Also, you could go much faster through the first corner chicane section. just be careful with the car flicking out on you around the final corner.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

I used the car as I got in it....so stock I presume. I dont know anything about tuning an open wheeler so I aint gonna pretend that I know what im doing by sliding things around.

Thats gonna be a real worry for Race Pro as things Ive learnt in Forza are gonna go weeeeee out the window

[nagge]

oOOOOOOH Alright handbags ;)

FYI id just got the game, first time in an open wheeler, and I aint got a wheel.

And give me a pc that doesnt run at 20fps and Id shave a bit off ;)

Here come the excuses tonguegre

I can't even play the game on my laptop :/

[PzR_Tak]

I used the car as I got in it....so stock I presume. I dont know anything about tuning an open wheeler so I aint gonna pretend that I know what im doing by sliding things around.

Thats gonna be a real worry for Race Pro as things Ive learnt in Forza are gonna go weeeeee out the window

Well, I was using Simbin's initial tune originally and that was about a second quicker. In terms of tuning open wheel cars, I don't know a lot either, but I do know a little about balance and downforce, and that's just through general knowledge (and a bit from Forza) you need to keep things balanced for a start (way more than in any FWD car) The BMW can be a handful, but it doesn't put the power down as quickly as the F3000 does.

Be careful going around any second gear corner, any over-power will spin the car, and don't push the car too hard around the long 3rd gear right, otherwise it will give you a little kick, pushing you right. Coming into to the fifth to second left hander, the camber will screw you over, don't put much power until you are straight, otherwise you are going flying.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Thanks man, Im sure Ill start shaving tenths off though when I have a better view of the circuit im driving....

[PzR_Tak]

Thanks man, Im sure Ill start shaving tenths off though when I have a better view of the circuit im driving....

Well, thanks to SCOlancer, my frame-rate may well be going up a little bit in the not too distant future!

[Aizen93]

Well, thanks to SCOlancer, my frame-rate may well be going up a little bit in the not too distant future!

Hehehe SCOlancer is an awesome dude m8, he's been on my FL for ages now. Can't wait till we all get some races going soon on this.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Gah! Me too!!

[kalniel]

To complete the off-topic-ness - I thought I'd give f3000 on Curitiba a try in evo.. a rather abysmal 1.10 more or less dead :p First time I've tried either the class or the track, but they're quite nice - I'm surprised how much you can chuck the f3000 around and the sensation of speed is ace :D FBMW seems much more precise, but twitchy, and slow :p

[PzR_Tak]

To complete the off-topic-ness

Right, this is a probable car-list. NOT DEFINITE, AND NOT CONFIRMED. Ripped from the GTR Evolution website. 48 models.

GT Pro
- Aston Martin DBR9
- Audi R8 GT Concept
- Corvette C5 R
- Corvette C6 R
- Dodge Viper GTS/R
- Gumpert Apollo GT
- Koenigsegg CCGT
- Lister Storm
- Saleen S7-R

GT Sport
- BMW M3 GTR
- Corvette C6 GT2
- Marcos MarcoRelly GTS
- Mosler MT900R
- Seat Toledo GT
- Spyker C8 Spyder GT2R
- SunRed SR21

GT Club
- Aston Martin DBRS9
- BMW Z4 GTR
- Dodge Viper Comp. Coupe
- Gillet Vertigo Streiff
- Seat Cupra GT

WTCC ‘06/’07
- Alfa Romeo 156
- Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
- BMW 320si e90
- BMW 320i e46
- Chevrolet Lacetti
- Honda Accord Euro-R
- Peugeot 407
- Seat León
- Seat Toledo Cupra

WTCC ‘87
- Alfa Romeo 75 turbo
- BMW M3 e30

WTCC Extreme
- Alfa Romeo 156 Extreme
- BMW 320si Extreme
- Chevrolet Lacetti Extreme
- Seat León Extreme

Production Class
- Audi R8
- Dodge Viper SRT/10
- Gumpert Apollo
- Koenigsegg CCX

Formula 3000
- Lola B02/60

Formula BMW
- Formula BMW

Mini Cooper Challenge
- Mini Cooper S

Radical Sportscars
- Radical SR3
- Radical SR4

Caterham CSR
- Caterham CSR200
- Caterham CSR260
- Caterham CSR320

[nagge]

Add to that the Koenigsegg CCXR, at least it says so on the Race Pro website.

[Aizen93]

Really lookin forward to driving these:

Saleen S7-R
BMW M3 GTR
Dodge Viper Comp. Coupe
Honda Accord Euro-R
BMW M3 e30
Audi R8
BMW 320si Extreme
Mini Cooper S
Formula 3000

[nagge]

I'm looking forward to the:
BMW E90 320Si
Caterham CSR320
BMW M3 GTR
Viper SRT/10
Audi R8
Aston Martin DBR9
...
ah to hell with it, I'm eager to drive all of them :)

[PzR_Tak]

I'm just looking forward to seeing where I am going!

[Aizen93]

I'm looking forward to the:
BMW E90 320Si
Caterham CSR320
BMW M3 GTR
Viper SRT/10
Audi R8
Aston Martin DBR9
...
ah to hell with it, I'm eager to drive all of them :)

Man I am getting obssesed with Race Pro lately to be honest. I need to go do something.....

[nagge]

Man I am getting obssesed with Race Pro lately to be honest. I need to go do something.....

Join the club :aie:

[NickJames]

Yep same here, I went out the other day and got Colin McRae DIRT just to pass the time.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

LOL - Get a reccomendation from James? Eewww bad bad Codemasters physics ;)

[Comet302]

Nah, I think people will always look at scoreboards and only use the #1 car...

Race07 boards weren't full of diversity

i think it will really come down to who can make the perfect suspension tune on their car... and ultimately the biggest thing will be "the driver"...

You can't modify the motors, but aren't there many setup changes that you can do in 07?... i have not played it.. so i don't know.... but, i would think the tuning would be transfered over into Race Pro?.... :hin:

[nagge]

i think it will really come down to who can make the perfect suspension tune on their car... and ultimately the biggest thing will be "the driver"...

You can't modify the motors, but aren't there many setup changes that you can do in 07?... i have not played it.. so i don't know.... but, i would think the tuning would be transfered over into Race Pro?.... :hin:

They have at least tried to balance the game so that every car is a potential winner, remains to see how well they've done.
Regarding the tuning, yes there is ALOT of settings you can alter, as we've learnt to expect from Simbin. Take a look in this video for an overview, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMlgXUyrPy4

Can't wait to get my hand on the demo and start tuning :bravo:

[Brako_UK]

I wonder if the tuning will add realism to the game,by this i mean if you over tune the springs will the car take damage unlike Forza 2 where everyone's tuning setup's have xrazy springs and no matter how much they bottom out,the cars take no damage.

[nagge]

I wonder if the tuning will add realism to the game,by this i mean if you over tune the springs will the car take damage unlike Forza 2 where everyone's tuning setup's have xrazy springs and no matter how much they bottom out,the cars take no damage.

If you set up the car so that it bottoms out you will loose speed and downforce so i don't see any "crazy" setups working in Race Pro. This is based on what I've learnt from GTR/GTL.

[Brako_UK]

Brilliant news,loving this game more and more.

[Comet302]

They have at least tried to balance the game so that every car is a potential winner, remains to see how well they've done.
Regarding the tuning, yes there is ALOT of settings you can alter, as we've learnt to expect from Simbin. Take a look in this video for an overview, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMlgXUyrPy4

Can't wait to get my hand on the demo and start tuning :bravo:

oh wow!!!... looks like it is pretty well done for setting up your car.. i guess the amount you can adjust all depends on the car you are driving as well as what level you are using... but, i am guessing that....

i too, am starting to like the looks of this game every day!!..... as well, don't forget that most of the videos we have seen are from the first stages of development... i can imagine that Simbin has made things much better...... or we can only hope.... mdr1

[Brako_UK]

It would be nice if we got some new official news soon.I did not get a reply to my email to Simbin but i put that down to the timing of the email,even if i dont get one though i just hope either Atari or Simbin let us know some new info about the game on this forum soon.

[crappucino]

Chevy have unveiled and have been testing the Cruze for WTCC 2009. Looks way nicer than the Lacetti. DLC perhaps?

http://www.crash.net/motorsport/wtcc/news/171467-0/chevrolet_tests_new_cruze.html

[nagge]

Oh my, fingers crossed for DLC. Looks like quite a high waist or maybe it's just the angle, although the front looks mean :)

[crappucino]

Oh my, fingers crossed for DLC. Looks like quite a high waist or maybe it's just the angle, although the front looks mean :)

Maybe the standard 17" regulation wheels don't quite suit the body, would look better with 18's (which come in with reg changes in 2010).

I think it's been mentioned before somewhere in the forum but there's the STCC cars to bear in mind as well so as well as the liveries that will add:

Audi A4
Pug 308
Volvos (C30 & S60)
and maybe the Camaros

Another possibility is Gio's BTCC S2000 Vectra which is a downloadable add-on for Race07 on the PC as part of the Crowne Plaza pack.

[nagge]

Maybe the standard 17" regulation wheels don't quite suit the body, would look better with 18's (which come in with reg changes in 2010).

I think it's been mentioned before somewhere in the forum but there's the STCC cars to bear in mind as well so as well as the liveries that will add:

Audi A4
Pug 308
Volvos (C30 & S60)
and maybe the Camaros

Another possibility is Gio's BTCC S2000 Vectra which is a downloadable add-on for Race07 on the PC as part of the Crowne Plaza pack.

And in '09 a biogas powered VW Scirocco will compete in STCC as well, so who knows what lies ahead of us :)

http://www.biogas.se/resources/images/pressbilder/jpeg/STCC-11.jpg
http://www.biogas.se/resources/images/pressbilder/jpeg/STCC-1.jpg

[Diablo_]

Give us the early 90's BTCC/WTCC with the

Honda Accord
Volvo S70/V70
Renault Laguna
Audi A4
Vauxhall/Opel Vectra
BMW 318/320
Alfa 155!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nissan Primera (always liked the livery on that car)
Ford Mondeo
and many more I've no doubt forgotten. :)

Also I'd be willing to bet about the possibility of E92 BMW M3 roadcar making it's DLC welcome.

[PzR_Tak]

Give us the early 90's BTCC/WTCC with the

Honda Accord
Volvo S70/V70
Renault Laguna
Audi A4
Vauxhall/Opel Vectra
BMW 318/320
Alfa 156!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nissan Primera (always liked the livery on that car)
Ford Mondeo
and many more I've no doubt forgotten. :)

Also I'd be willing to bet about the possibility of E92 BMW M3 roadcar making it's DLC welcome.

I want it all and I want it NOW!

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Diablo know's where its at!

[crappucino]

Give us the early 90's BTCC/WTCC with the

Honda Accord
Volvo S70/V70
Renault Laguna
Audi A4
Vauxhall/Opel Vectra
BMW 318/320
Alfa 155!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nissan Primera (always liked the livery on that car)
Ford Mondeo
and many more I've no doubt forgotten. :)

Also I'd be willing to bet about the possibility of E92 BMW M3 roadcar making it's DLC welcome.


Yeah bring back the super tourers :)

Rikard Rydell's legendary Volvo 850 estate - veritable battering ram

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe1Hcqt7698

[Brako_UK]

Did simbin ever make a BTCC game pack for the pc?.Like the WTCC,over the years BTCC has featured some amazing cars,it would be nice to see a future DLC pack featuring a BTCC year pack but i am pretty sure they already have the cars picked out so it's a waste of time making a sort of request thread.

[nagge]

Did simbin ever make a BTCC game pack for the pc?.Like the WTCC,over the years BTCC has featured some amazing cars,it would be nice to see a future DLC pack featuring a BTCC year pack but i am pretty sure they already have the cars picked out so it's a waste of time making a sort of request thread.

Nope, no BTCC from Simbin. Doesn't codemaster still hold the license?
Anyhow adding BTCC to a game that already has WTCC and STCC would seem a bit overwhelming, there's plenty of other classes that isn't S2000.
Simbin has mentioned that they've acquired some highly requested licenses and there is wild speculation going on in the GTR/Race07 forums :)

[Brako_UK]

I must say i am really looking forward to the official race tournaments more than the likes of the production and super cars they have added to the game.
As for codemasters holding the rights to the BTCC,it's a shame they did'nt do one of those games rather than GRID,saying that though,did GRID feature the BTCC or did they just add the WTCC cars but without a proper championship?.

There seem's to be a lot of open wheel race fans out there but to be honest i have never been to keen on it myself,it will be good to see what they bring to DLC though.Perhaps some old touring cars or what not.

[Comet302]

ooooh.. you changed your picture!!! ^^^^

[Brako_UK]

Indeed sir,thought it more appropiate to have a car that actually features in the game to have on my signature.

[nagge]

There seem's to be a lot of open wheel race fans out there but to be honest i have never been to keen on it myself,it will be good to see what they bring to DLC though.Perhaps some old touring cars or what not.

A1GP seems most likely.
I think we can forget anything about old school classes, there's no international appeal and the customer base for that is even smaller than the game itself unless it's the cars from GTL. But no one knows.

[Comet302]

what about the Australian V8 Supercars (http://www.v8supercars.com.au/)?... will we ever see that?... I would like to race a Holden Commodore VE (http://www.hrt.com.au/racing/2008/)!!!

[nagge]

what about the Australian V8 Supercars (http://www.v8supercars.com.au/)?... will we ever see that?... I would like to race a Holden Commodore VE (http://www.hrt.com.au/racing/2008/)!!!

Way to many tracks they have to model, and they are as far away from Sweden as humanly possible as well, so no it isn't very likely.

“We have secured licenses for a couple of highly requested series and we think our next scheduled title will come as a big happy surprise to all racers around the world.”
- Simbin

[crappucino]

Highly requested series? That's from the "toad" project isn't it? as in the new Simbin game which is under development. My guess would be official FIA GT, BTCC past/present or the Aussie V8s

[Comet302]

oooh maybe I hit the nail on the head wishing for the V8 Supercars!!...lol.. (high hopes) but FIA or BTCC would be cool too!!!.....

[crappucino]

And how could I forget DTM! although there are only 2 factory manufacturers left now, mind you there's only 2 in Aussie V8s and 1 left in BTCC for next season and even that's not confirmed yet.

[Comet302]

This is kinda funny.. but, this thread is starting to look like some threads on another site (http://forum.racedepartment.com/gtr-evolution/8885-next-simbin-add-toad-8.html)about "codename toad".... an unknown title (addon?) from simbin..... everyone is trying to guess what sort of cars will be in that one too!..... LOL

[PzR_Tak]

This is kinda funny.. but, this thread is starting to look like some threads on another site (http://forum.racedepartment.com/gtr-evolution/8885-next-simbin-add-toad-8.html)about "codename toad".... an unknown title (addon?) from simbin..... everyone is trying to guess what sort of cars will be in that one too!..... LOL

Not an addon, It will be their first PC game using Lizard, their new engine (speculation, but pretty much fact)

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

I know it would never happen, but I would like them to steal the Super GT license from Gran Turismo :D

[Diablo_]

That's what JGTC is now called, thank you !

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Yep! ;)

JGTC / Super GT

Im in LOVE with that series, cars are just raw power!

[crappucino]

Yep! ;)

JGTC / Super GT

Im in LOVE with that series, cars are just raw power!

Yeah and I'm sure you haven't noticed the grid girls either ;)

[Diablo_]

Yeah and I'm sure you haven't noticed the grid girls either ;)Wait there's cars in those races?!

[crappucino]

Wait there's cars in those races?!

No that's just a vicious rumour

And the cheek of this lot. Just because you got 500BHP doesn't mean to say you can use the bus lane

http://supergt.net/supergt/2008/08gallery/08gallery.htm?0802023

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Its a shame about Race Pro and paintjobs though.

Ive replictated JGTC with spec-built cars and all the liveries in Forza, shame I cant carry the legacy over to Race Pro

[nagge]

Not an addon, It will be their first PC game using Lizard, their new engine (speculation, but pretty much fact)

Doesn't sound like it: “The release which is scheduled for release 2009, should lock into the new GTR Evolution base the same way as STCC does, meaning rules, cars, tracks and features specific to this new series will instantly become available in GTR Evo and STCC if you also own those.”

A whole new engine doesn't sound at all like STCC. I do recall reading somewhere that Simbin wouldn't make a PC game with Lizard until 2010, might have been one of my many dreams ;)

This is kinda funny.. but, this thread is starting to look like some threads on another site (http://forum.racedepartment.com/gtr-evolution/8885-next-simbin-add-toad-8.html)about "codename toad".... an unknown title (addon?) from simbin..... everyone is trying to guess what sort of cars will be in that one too!..... LOL

Well what else can we do really? No new screens, no new vids, let the speculations run wild tup:

[PzR_Tak]

Doesn't sound like it: “The release which is scheduled for release 2009, should lock into the new GTR Evolution base the same way as STCC does, meaning rules, cars, tracks and features specific to this new series will instantly become available in GTR Evo and STCC if you also own those.”

A whole new engine doesn't sound at all like STCC. I do recall reading somewhere that Simbin wouldn't make a PC game with Lizard until 2010, might have been one of my many dreams ;)

I was pretty sure that they would be using it for all their titles from now on, but then again, I'm not Simbin. I remember reading somewhere that that's what they intended to do, but I can't find the source. Maybe it was just assumption, but Gmotor really is getting on a bit.

[PzR_Tak]

http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/6072952/Race-Pro/Product.html

Apparently the 08 Dodge Charger will be in there somewhere,

[nagge]

http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/6072952/Race-Pro/Product.html

Apparently the 08 Dodge Charger will be in there somewhere,

I saw that some time ago and thought to myself, why in gods name would they put such a steamboat of a car in a game like this?
Im still puzzled...:mefiant:

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

classic WTCC perhaps?

[Brako_UK]

If you pre-ordered Race pro from play.com,you got a bonus car which was a charger i belive.It mentioned something about bumble bee or something although i may have got that wrong,if you check play.com and find Race pro,i am sure it should still have the pre-order details.


Edit...Ignore this post,i did'nt notice the web address in Tak's post,sorry chaps.

[nagge]

classic WTCC perhaps?

Don't think that qualifies as "highly requested" really.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Thats so odd...it doesnt even have a race livery - will there be a Charger production class perhaps?

[Diablo_]

The Charger looks like a very very early model render in low detail perhaps.

[Brako_UK]

Possibly hellbringer,my satanic badger hurling friend.Perhaps it will fit in with the production type cars somehow,with the Audi R8.Is the Super bee a tuned up version of the Charger?.

or its more than likely as you suggested,a simple league of its own,either way it can only add more enjoyment to the game.

[beradd88]

A different picture of the pre order charger can be seen here.

http://www.gamestop.com/gs/images/bonus/Race_Pro_bonusLG.jpg

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

......How the HELL do you know I throw badgers?

It was you in that car...wasnt it....following me...

¬.¬

[Brako_UK]

How else could we have any repsect for your evil ways if you did'nt throw badgers.In the early 80's you could'nt move for satanists throwing badgers onto the M25.


Back on topic though......Have any of you chap's seen any other pre-order special car offer's? usually there's atleast a set or a few different codes for different cars depending where you shop.

[VVV_Hellbr1ng3r]

Not seen anything yet, but Aizen or Nagge are usually good at finding news on Race Pro.

Im not sure I wanna pay for this Charger...I mean...how would it benefit me?

[Julio_Geordio_9]

Not seen any other car codes apart from the charger with play.com

If I was to order now I'd probably go for that as it the cheapest I've seen at the minute, the code would be a bonus but of no real benefit.

It'll be like Grid and their liveries. Give it a few days and all the codes will be published somewhere anyway giving no real exclusivity

[crappucino]

Just been having a sniff around the retail sites myself and can't see anyone else offering exclusives either. Just pre-ordered mine for 32.99 so it better be here on release day or I'll go down to Jersey myself and throw rotten veg at them.

[Brako_UK]

Not seen anything yet, but Aizen or Nagge are usually good at finding news on Race Pro.

Im not sure I wanna pay for this Charger...I mean...how would it benefit me?

Well if you were to pre-order it for £32.99 then your probably saving anything between £2-£7 depending how much it will sell in store so you probably are'nt really paying for it.

But if this car is in a mixed class i cant see how it could benefit anyone other than say if they wish to use it in 1 player or an community online tournament.

[beradd88]

It is a car and it is free. There may not be a point to it but we sure can drive it.

[Brako_UK]

Very true,does'nt mean to say it wont be fun to just take the car for a spin round the Nurburgring now and then.Although a chap on here earlier mentioned that Gran Tourismo 5 demo features a leaderboard for each seperate car,that would be a wonderful feature to have on Race pro,Then every car really would have a point to it.

Edit........the more i think about this Charger,the more i really want to try it in the game.